My reasoning was to see how Creature would respond to it. I was going to go a day or two just prodging. But then RL happened and it went on a little longer. Mainly it was to help me try to sort Creature and it worked a little bit. I'm kind of interested in why he didn't latch onto me as hard as he did Thor but at the same time he does seem to have a prejudice of IC's lurking. And I'm not an IC. Either way, that's pretty much the extent of it. I wanted to see Creature's reaction.In post 270, Harkonnen97 wrote:Blank, can you please share all of the reasons that you thought that it would be a good idea to lurk if you are town?
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PfftIn post 266, BlankFace wrote:I started lurking to see his reaction. I wanted to see if he'd jump onto me like he jumped onto Thor.
Okay, if you're town you deserve a Kodak moment.Sigh-
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I don't think you got any conclusions for this reaction test.In post 266, BlankFace wrote:He did, albeit a little later on than I really expected.Sigh-
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It was in response to your defense of LoopDan, as I have already said.In post 268, Harkonnen97 wrote:His whole #218 post is defending himself against my accusations, and ends it with a NEW READLIST. In which he puts me from "Lean Town" to "Null", in retaliation to me scumreading him. Why would he put me at null anyway? Isn't he scumreading me? The only people he is scumreading in that post are the person who was the biggest wagon on him, and who has the IC verbally pounding him, and the 2 inactives.
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BlankFace: moves to Leantown. I like his reads, and while I do not necessarily understand his logic behind lurking, at least he offers one that makes some sense to me.
Draynth: moves to Null. I can't tie his inactivity to scummyness as he has requested to replace out. Interested to see what whoever replaces his slot does.
Lucca: moves to Null until I can hear more. I'm not liking the inactivity, but he may replace out...
Hark: moves to Leanscum. As I have previously stated, his defensiveness of LoopDan after the initial distancing is suspect. His blatant misrepresentations of what I have said and done is extremely scummy in my mind. I probably should take him to scum, but...not yet.
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You forgot even though I stated that in direct response to your post 221 in my post 223?In post 280, Harkonnen97 wrote:Also, reading through Blanks' reads made me realize that I forgot Penguin replaced in, even though I welcomed him. Iwasin fact going through his ISO when I claimed that he was inactive, and judged him because there wasn't that many posts.-
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You didn't say that you replaced in in 223. You gave explanations about your posts. I dismissed them, because I thought that you were here from the start.In post 282, PenguinPower wrote:
You forgot even though I stated that in direct response to your post 221 in my post 223?In post 280, Harkonnen97 wrote:Also, reading through Blanks' reads made me realize that I forgot Penguin replaced in, even though I welcomed him. Iwasin fact going through his ISO when I claimed that he was inactive, and judged him because there wasn't that many posts.-
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In post 279, Creature wrote:I understand his reasoning, but I don't like the conclusion he got to.
It wasn't as conclusive as I was hoping. You didn't jump onto to it like opportunistic scum, which is what I had you pegged for tbh. It gave you some town points in my book, I was just expecting something else.-
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Can you explain this please? You don't understand Blank's logic, but at the same time it makes sense to you?In post 281, PenguinPower wrote:BlankFace: moves to Leantown. I like his reads, and while I do not necessarily understand his logic behind lurking, at least he offers one that makes some sense to me.
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I said "since I started two days ago" which would have been after the game start. Sorry for not being explicit.In post 284, Harkonnen97 wrote:
You didn't say that you replaced in in 223. You gave explanations about your posts. I dismissed them, because I thought that you were here from the start.In post 282, PenguinPower wrote:
You forgot even though I stated that in direct response to your post 221 in my post 223?In post 280, Harkonnen97 wrote:Also, reading through Blanks' reads made me realize that I forgot Penguin replaced in, even though I welcomed him. Iwasin fact going through his ISO when I claimed that he was inactive, and judged him because there wasn't that many posts.
I don't think that it is. You intentionally stated that I was quiet and failed to provide a readlist until you called me out - that is false. I called you on that and then you state that you weren't talking about my readlist - convenient - but my second. I offer why that's not the case either - it being 12 hours between my last post and next post. You are trying to twist things so that I look inactive and scummy.In post 285, Harkonnen97 wrote:also "blatant misrepresentation" is a bit of an exaggeration.
I call that a blatant misrepresentation.
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I don't understand the logic behind the play that he was making, but I understand that intent. Being new to this forum, I can't say that it is scummy or not; or, if it is a legit play or not; but, the intent I do understand and given the reads he provided I'm leaning town.-
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Oh please.In post 221, Harkonnen97 wrote:Penguin is here, and I believe that he is lurking on purpose. I think the term is called bettlejuice? He was quiet, but now that he is mentioned, he suddenly gets more active, and provides a read list and all that good stuff. That he could have done without being prompted to.
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No. Let me expand upon that a bit for you...Logic is the methodology or a system of reasoning. Intent is the goal.In post 290, Harkonnen97 wrote:Also, aren't "logic behind the play" and "intent" the exact same thing?
I do not understand how his system of reasoning was going to elicit information from Creature, but I understand that his intent behind lurking was to gain such information.-
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But if you don't understand his reasoning,whydo you believe that his intent is town-motivated?
Scum intent is perfectly valid behind lurking.
My reasoning for not believing that Blank's intent was scummy is because his reads make a lot of sense to me.
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BlankFace's re-entry into the game looks more likely town than scum.
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Penguin is voting me. How am I sheeping?In post 266, BlankFace wrote:<<clipped>>
I think my major issue with Loopdan is that there is a lack of independent hunting from the slot. The Hark pressure started with Creature, IIRC. The Creature/Thor scumteam theory came from Hark. Other than that, I haven't seen anything that could be considered his own line of though. I can understand following up on a townread's ideas but even then, you still have to have your own. The way he backs off of Thor. The way he follows PenquinPower. There's a trend of him sheeping.
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You like his reads? Explain this. His reads are not at all similar to your reads.In post 281, PenguinPower wrote:<<snip!>>
BlankFace: moves to Leantown. I like his reads, and while I do not necessarily understand his logic behind lurking, at least he offers one that makes some sense to me.
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@LoopDanIn post 294, Loopdan wrote:
You like his reads? Explain this. His reads are not at all similar to your reads.In post 281, PenguinPower wrote:<<snip!>>
BlankFace: moves to Leantown. I like his reads, and while I do not necessarily understand his logic behind lurking, at least he offers one that makes some sense to me.
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Blank doesn't like you, re-reading Hark and agrees with my position, likes me, likes Miss Terry. I'm not arrogant enough to believe that all my reads are right, but Blank agrees enough on my important reads that I like what he says. I'll bring him around on Hark once you flip scum.-
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@PP-- BlankFace has expressed mixed thoughts on me. That's far from your scumread. He voted Thor, who is in your lean-town tier. He has Lucca as scum, and Hark as town.
You say you and BlankFace agree enough on your important reads, but you don't share a single scumread.
Penguin says scum is Loopdan-Hark.
BlankFace says scum is Thor-Lucca.
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Hark fell a bit when I read Penguin, if that was not clear. Another thing to note is I'm not saying the scum team is Lucca/Thor. I don't look for associations before flips.In post 297, Loopdan wrote:@PP-- BlankFace has expressed mixed thoughts on me. That's far from your scumread. He voted Thor, who is in your lean-town tier. He has Lucca as scum,and Hark as town.
You say you and BlankFace agree enough on your important reads, but you don't share a single scumread.
Penguin says scum is Loopdan-Hark.
BlankFace says scum is Thor/Lucca.
Yet you like his reads?
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