a town post from robb !In post 856, Robbnva wrote:Oh I misread Your post. It's not about difference of opinions but that is what it looks like to me. Anyway I don't really care so moving on.
I like how you characterize my play based on 1 post in the entire gameIn post 867, iraonavp wrote:I think this is a town-aligned post.In post 822, Tam wrote:Wow, in a nutshell, no Robb, I posted a few times EXACTLY why I voted. I thought the others's reasons were okay, but pointed out that it was Trivium's reactions to the whole thing that made me vote him. I then tried really hard to help him out, thinking maybe he was a townie who was misunderstood, as I have been in that spot before and it's frustrating. (I said ALL OF THIS BTW. I'm not sure why you guys are saying I never gave my reasons.) You also say, in the post directly after the one you say i am sus in, that you are most suspicious of people who lurked while Trivium was under fire..I was right in the spotlight, trying to figure this all out. Can you explain this further? Because there were only like 3 of us talking at all. Half the town still hasn't shown up and a third ran away and got replacements.
Also, what did I do that suddenly I am catching votes? I missed something clearly. I would like to point out that while I am being blamed for not giving reasons for my vote, NOT A SINGLE VOTER OF ME IN THIS GAME HAS GIVEN A REASON. They have all just either said Vote...like JaeReed and murder, or said I say all the right things, which is literally the opposite of saying the wrong things. I have asked that these people elaborate but when getting no response from anyone about it, just blew it off, because it didn't seem valid to me.
Can anyone give me an actual reason why I'm suspicious? Again, it would be nice to have something to actually be able to defend.
Also, I don't feel my revote of Trivium to have been wishy washy at all. I never said I was unvoting him permanently, I said quite clearly that it was just to see how it all played out, because he finally had taken my advice and tried defending himself instead of whining. When he then flipped out again on the people who he had just convinced to unvote him, it was a major red flag for me. Please note that HE DID NOT ATTACK ME he was after Bacde...who then turned the tables somehow and shifted the blame on me. It was not a defensive move. It was more of an epiphany that he was scum. I still can not even imagine what it is I actually did to look scummy. And since then the two votes I've gotten have not said anything about why they voted me.
Robb- Saying that being too defensive, or even defensive, is not a thing, is BS. It most certainly is, but has often also been found to be townies that got upset and confused about being blamed wrongly. But don't try and negate the very clear mistakes that your predecessor made. It's ridiculous to claim that they don't exist...
Bacde is seemingly just repeating to lynch Tam even when he isn't literally doing that and I find it suspicious.
(1) is incomprehensible...In post 873, Robbnva wrote:I disagree.In post 867, iraonavp wrote:think this is a town-aligned post.
Bacde is seemingly just repeating to lynch Tam even when he isn't literally doing that and I find it suspicious.
1. I quoted a post where he said some negative things about my slot and asked him to point them out to me and he didn't. Instead he said posted a few times why he voted me. His first mention of trivium is post 306 but it's not really a read on him, rather accountant/Ira stuff. 2nd time he mentions him is post 552 where he says he's a good guy (I'm assuming this was sarcasm or something. Don't really understand the point of the post actually). Third time he mentions him is in the post he votes him where he directly quotes the IC who says he wants trivium lynched and says some shit I don't understand which is why I asked him for examples. (Like where did trivium defy tam? How did he defy him? And why is that scummy? What position is tam in to make requests of trivium? Also what "shady seeming actions" did he perceive trivium do?
2. At the time of that post he had 3 votes. His reaction imo seems over the top. He acts like he is at l-2 or something. Why make a huge post like that instead of coming in and directly asking the people voting him why they are?
Also this post
Reaks of him knowing my slot is town.In post 724, Tam wrote:Ummm yes, you do! VOTE: Trivium Seriously man, I tried so hard to help you figure out what you were doing wrong and correct it, in the hopes that you were innocent and just really misunderstood.In post 720, Trivium wrote:Do I get a prize?
I don't play around with the wishy washy 'you're great, you're horrible' back and forth players. I find it real scummy. Your opinion of people should not sway like trees in the wind. It can change, of course, but not so radically. You are really grasping for anything.. I'm pretty sure about you now.
I tried.
You are implying it, but still avoiding explicitly saying that you have town-aligned reads on everyone except me and Tam, because you're scum-aligned and lying about it.In post 874, Accountant wrote:Son I literally said I thought that triv's pity party made me feel like he's town
Are you such a desperate scum that you have to rely on making strawmen to avoid looking like the disingenuous scumlord you are
What's that supposed to mean?In post 882, Sonrio wrote:i cant believe bacde is playing forum mafia
Bacde is obvtown enough and a good enough player that I don't feel he is lynchbait for mafiaIn post 878, Impoetic wrote:I bet you if I hadn't made this post that would lampshade it, Tam would have come back and immediately responded to bacde, playing that up as the meat of the BW rather than the weak link it is. I mean, Bacde's a good player, but he's refusing to explain his point of view thoroughly and is someone that can be targeted easily as a means of avoidance/misrepping
I'm not characterizing your play, I'm just talking about one thing you did.In post 880, Bacde wrote:I like how you characterize my play based on 1 post in the entire gameIn post 867, iraonavp wrote:I think this is a town-aligned post.In post 822, Tam wrote:Wow, in a nutshell, no Robb, I posted a few times EXACTLY why I voted. I thought the others's reasons were okay, but pointed out that it was Trivium's reactions to the whole thing that made me vote him. I then tried really hard to help him out, thinking maybe he was a townie who was misunderstood, as I have been in that spot before and it's frustrating. (I said ALL OF THIS BTW. I'm not sure why you guys are saying I never gave my reasons.) You also say, in the post directly after the one you say i am sus in, that you are most suspicious of people who lurked while Trivium was under fire..I was right in the spotlight, trying to figure this all out. Can you explain this further? Because there were only like 3 of us talking at all. Half the town still hasn't shown up and a third ran away and got replacements.
Also, what did I do that suddenly I am catching votes? I missed something clearly. I would like to point out that while I am being blamed for not giving reasons for my vote, NOT A SINGLE VOTER OF ME IN THIS GAME HAS GIVEN A REASON. They have all just either said Vote...like JaeReed and murder, or said I say all the right things, which is literally the opposite of saying the wrong things. I have asked that these people elaborate but when getting no response from anyone about it, just blew it off, because it didn't seem valid to me.
Can anyone give me an actual reason why I'm suspicious? Again, it would be nice to have something to actually be able to defend.
Also, I don't feel my revote of Trivium to have been wishy washy at all. I never said I was unvoting him permanently, I said quite clearly that it was just to see how it all played out, because he finally had taken my advice and tried defending himself instead of whining. When he then flipped out again on the people who he had just convinced to unvote him, it was a major red flag for me. Please note that HE DID NOT ATTACK ME he was after Bacde...who then turned the tables somehow and shifted the blame on me. It was not a defensive move. It was more of an epiphany that he was scum. I still can not even imagine what it is I actually did to look scummy. And since then the two votes I've gotten have not said anything about why they voted me.
Robb- Saying that being too defensive, or even defensive, is not a thing, is BS. It most certainly is, but has often also been found to be townies that got upset and confused about being blamed wrongly. But don't try and negate the very clear mistakes that your predecessor made. It's ridiculous to claim that they don't exist...
Bacde is seemingly just repeating to lynch Tam even when he isn't literally doing that and I find it suspicious.
wait no I don't like that it feels lazy man
I mean if you and Tam are mafia and I townread everyone else then I'm correct in every one of those reads except oneIn post 883, iraonavp wrote:You are implying it, but still avoiding explicitly saying that you have town-aligned reads on everyone except me and Tam, because you're scum-aligned and lying about it.In post 874, Accountant wrote:Son I literally said I thought that triv's pity party made me feel like he's town
Are you such a desperate scum that you have to rely on making strawmen to avoid looking like the disingenuous scumlord you are
I didn't even know who you were addressing, and I still can't work out what point you're trying to make about Bacde and Tam...In post 887, Impoetic wrote:Bacde I like how you refuse to answer anyone in a meaningful way
what about robb has been scummy
Predit: You're ignoring what I said about Tam, Ira. That post was also my reason and aside from gut I think I mentioned why. Well, maybe I didn't, but it's certainly false-sounding. This pretense of having tried "so hard" to help Trivium before revoting him as a response to him scumreading her is very, as Robb might put it, "scum motivated."
See, you're still being ambiguous about it!In post 889, Accountant wrote:I mean if you and Tam are mafia and I townread everyone else then I'm correct in every one of those reads except oneIn post 883, iraonavp wrote:You are implying it, but still avoiding explicitly saying that you have town-aligned reads on everyone except me and Tam, because you're scum-aligned and lying about it.In post 874, Accountant wrote:Son I literally said I thought that triv's pity party made me feel like he's town
Are you such a desperate scum that you have to rely on making strawmen to avoid looking like the disingenuous scumlord you are
it's not that he's lynchbait but that people can use his posts to make it look like they're addressing cases just because he's on them, since he refuses to respond to anyone about anything and continuously says things without explaining them (fmpov)In post 885, Accountant wrote:Bacde is obvtown enough and a good enough player that I don't feel he is lynchbait for mafiaIn post 878, Impoetic wrote:I bet you if I hadn't made this post that would lampshade it, Tam would have come back and immediately responded to bacde, playing that up as the meat of the BW rather than the weak link it is. I mean, Bacde's a good player, but he's refusing to explain his point of view thoroughly and is someone that can be targeted easily as a means of avoidance/misrepping
He's not town-aligned...In post 891, Sonrio wrote:off topic but how to make my signature show up on all my posts????????????????
also accountant is one of those blunt, mean and old players but also town so ill UNVOTE: Accountant
If you treat it like it had deliberate motivation, sure.In post 893, Impoetic wrote:it's not that he's lynchbait but that people can use his posts to make it look like they're addressing cases just because he's on them, since he refuses to respond to anyone about anything and continuously says things without explaining them (fmpov)In post 885, Accountant wrote:Bacde is obvtown enough and a good enough player that I don't feel he is lynchbait for mafiaIn post 878, Impoetic wrote:I bet you if I hadn't made this post that would lampshade it, Tam would have come back and immediately responded to bacde, playing that up as the meat of the BW rather than the weak link it is. I mean, Bacde's a good player, but he's refusing to explain his point of view thoroughly and is someone that can be targeted easily as a means of avoidance/misrepping
Predit: The bacde comment is in a different vein. Tam made a post about having been trying not to scumread her scumread and then voted after he hard SRed her. That's not towny behavior. You should be able to work out why.
Predit2: Account settings > profile > signature > submit, right?