Mini Normal 1809: Game Over

[Robbnva]

Hi I'm batman

[Robbnva]

VOTE: Robbnva

Where's dat RVS vote

There's no rule that says anyone has to Rvs. You should know that

vote: elyse

Serious vote

[Robbnva]

hell everyone.

I am ready to have a fun game. This is actually me first game of mafia on the mafiascum website =)

You're in for a wild ride

[Robbnva]

This reaction is a little strange

What's strange about it?

[Robbnva]

This reaction is a little strange

What's strange about it?

the voting the person accusing you (without explaining why), rather than defending yourself.

Meh

Explaining why isn't really necessary neither is defending yourself from a stupid accusation

[Robbnva]

My accusation on elyse isn't stupid. Thank you

[Robbnva]

what's your logic, friend?

She votes me for not RVSing which implies she has an issue with people not RVSing(which would be stupid to begin with), but by doing that she herself didn't Rvs which makes her a hypocrite and as a result less trustworthy

Since Rvs voting isn't actually necessary anyway it's a bit of a way to force herself to look good by being proactive.

[Robbnva]

Robb is town btw

Obviously

[Robbnva]

It's may not be completely alignment indicative but it's a good starting off point for me. She's a player I can't trust atm.

[Robbnva]

Oh you'll have issues with my tone all game I'm sure. I'm intense and abrasive.

This game should be fun. So many players I haven't played with in a while.

[Robbnva]

well you have joined the right game, these cast of characters while they may not be my favorites, they do know how to play the game fairly well.

[Robbnva]

penny for your thoughts house

[Robbnva]

yeah I wondered that also but decided it wasn't worth a post.

[Robbnva]

such a weird question to ask.

[Robbnva]

who's to say we will ever encounter a mass claim?

[Robbnva]

I disagree I think scum is more likely to suggest a mass claim d1

:suggests day 1 mass claim:

:posts saying scum is more likely to suggest mass claim day 1:

[Robbnva]

I don't really have a comment other than you need to pay more attention lmfao

ctc didn't suggest a day 1 mass claim but you did so i'm paying attention.

[Robbnva]

i'm olderer now

vote molla

[Robbnva]

My vote on you wasn't serious

got to include an emoji or something next time. mafia is srs bzns

p.edit - the only person who seems to have problems reading right now is you molla.

[Robbnva]

I am readings quite gooder Fanks

[Robbnva]

If you think I'm being serious somebody else needs to work on their reading

[Robbnva]

Anyone up for some questions?

No

next

[Robbnva]

Anyone up for some questions?

No

next

Why not?

Stupid
Distracts from the game
Teaches me nothing that helps me in the game
Stupid
Waste of time
Did I say stupid?

[Robbnva]

And sorry if I came off like an ass in that post. Not my intentions

[Robbnva]

Like us?

[Robbnva]

How are we similar?

[Robbnva]

I wish I could get more answers to my question... when do you think we should mass claim.

Not a fan so never?

[Robbnva]

I would say the same of early game joke posting, and RVS.

I agree about Rvs, it's why I rarely do it

[Robbnva]

Grenadel, how useful is debating somebody about their opinions that are going to be the same regardless of alignment?

[Robbnva]

None yet people try to debate me all the time

Btw this site needs to enable emojis

[Robbnva]

penny for your thoughts house

Just curious... if you hate me, why ask what I was thinking in that post?

Why are you asking me about my opinion of you that I made in another game?

Just cause I don't get along with people doesn't change the point of the game. I still need to interact and develop reads

[Robbnva]

And no I don't know why I gave opinions of 2 players from this game in that game ha ha

[Robbnva]

Why are you asking me about my opinion of you that I made in another game?

Why do you assume I know what you said in another game?

Your opinion of me was pretty obvious last year, brah.

I can't remember shit I said last week bruh

[Robbnva]

I would say the same of early game joke posting, and RVS.

I agree about Rvs, it's why I rarely do it

I'd love to hear some ideas from you on better ways to generate early content.

Don't really have any. I let people do their thing and I do mine and vote when I feel moved

[Robbnva]

RVS is like voting in a democracy. It's fine if you don't do it as long as everyone else is.

Except this year. Even if you hate Hillary you have to vote her or we get stuck with chump.

[Robbnva]

But if chump wins I have to move to Canada and my job doesn't exsist in Canada

[Robbnva]

Yeah probably working a job building a wall...

[Robbnva]

So house, vote molla with me

[Robbnva]

1) Do you prefer to play as Town, Mafia, or Independent?
2) What is your favorite role?
3) What are your strengths as a player?
4) What are your weaknesses as a player?
5) Do your strengths and weaknesses change with your alignment?
6) Do you believe in having a D1 trust/buddy? If “yes” who here would be your D1 trust/buddy?
7) What is the story behind your current avatar picture?

Ugh I'm bored so here goes.

1. Town
2. VT
3. As scum it's my ability the manipulate people. As town it's my ability to become town read easily
4. As scum if I'm not into my rhythm I'm obvious. As town I tunnel and don't work well with others
5. I should work on reading lol. Yes obviously
6. I don't believe in ever having a trust/buddy probably cause I'm incapable of trusting people in this game
7. Local restaurant had it on their FB page a couple of years ago and had an older sister so got forced to watch a lot of Care Bears and thought it looked cool.

Now let me ask you questions.

1. How many games have you played of Mafia?
2. Why did you join this site
3. Why are your thoughts on list reads?
4. What are your thoughts on townies lying?
5. whats your favorite kind of pie?
6. Ala mode or no ala mode?
7. Will you vote molla with me?

P. Edit - he's not your mason buddy.

[Robbnva]

Yeah and I don't believe that so...

[Robbnva]

Neither do smart townies.

[Robbnva]

Neither do smart townies.

Yeah but we're talking about you.

[Robbnva]

My reaction was perfectly fine thank you

[Robbnva]

Found it. Mini 1620. Thesp said people who aggressively refuse are scum

Ha ha this made me laugh actually

[Robbnva]

1. Less pressure, plus I try to never lie even as scum so playing as scum without lying is hard
2. Again less pressure. I don't have to try and act a certain way to avoid being NKd and I don't like the pressure of having to chose who to save/investigate/whatever
3. People say it's my stubbornness and I believe what I'm saying, which I do because I try not to lie ever
4. Not sure what you mean by "team work hard for you" do you mean the rest of the team has to work harder because of me?

[Robbnva]

I like the Twilight Zone. You?

holy shit dude good choice. Twilight Zone is some of the best TV I've ever watched, I think it's on netflix now. Favorite episode?

Haven't watched since I was a kid. Should watch again

[Robbnva]

I want to make America great again though. What made you go from the "RQS is stupid and distracting" mentality to answering the questions? For someone preaching about distractions, you seem pretty ok with them now. And that includes some of the fluff posting before answering the RQS. Asking your own questions seems weird too after calling it a stupid distraction when someone else did it.

Why would you ask a question I've already given an answer to?

I said why I answered the questions. The same reason is why I asked him some of my own.

[Robbnva]

Ugh I'm bored so here goes.

Kind of hard to miss imo.

[Robbnva]

there was more to it I guess. So distractions from the game are ok if you're bored?

When the activity is not where I would like it to be and I'm tired of refreshing my phone hoping more people would post. Sure why not.

[Robbnva]

Are you assuming Grendel wasn't bored when he made his post?

No

[Robbnva]

Masquarade, you said that what followed Grendel's RQS was boring. What do you think of those who refused to answer? I also noticed you didn't list any strengths. Do you really not know of any? Because you said you prefer playing scum and "sort of" change strengths and weknesses with alignment and it kind of feels like you had scum strengths in mind that you didn't want to share. How do you know your strengths and weaknesses change without knowing what your strengths are?

And this imo proves my point about these questions. I don't thing you can determine alignment by anybody's response and that's what you are trying to do.

You're either trying way to hard to make something out of nothing or you are using his responses against him which is very scummy to me

[Robbnva]

So the fact that I feel he's hiding his scum meta doesn't mean anything unless I'm scum who is bullshitting?

Well I'd like to think you are intelligent enough to realize that scum would be drawing attention to themselves if they intentionally did that so I actually don't think him not answering is AI at all. Obviously I can't speak for him as to why he didn't answer it but I have my own ideas that are outside of the "he's scum trying to hide his strengths/weaknesses "

[Robbnva]

Like did you read that paragraph or you just didn't like it because RQS led to it?

I read your post and I read his responses.

I don't think people's responses to these questions are AI nor do I think people refusing to answer is AI

I do think using people's opinions against them could be AI though.

[Robbnva]

Like that game you mentioned earlier. The assertion that people refusing to answer was an incorrect assertion. That game also showed it was a pointless activity because beck proved rqs didn't help the person find scum in previous games.

[Robbnva]

Masquarade answered. His answers surrounding scum play felt guarded though.

Ok? There's motive for town to keep their scum meta secret.

[Robbnva]

But beck's response to that was genuine and would have been the same regardless of his alignment.

1. So you as a town player would openly tell people how to read your scum game? Doesn't that make it harder for you to play as scum down the road?
2. Did you ask him why he didn't answer it how you would have liked and give him time to answer you before making an assumption? No you voted him first without asking. Asking and waiting for a response would have been the more town thinking action. Voting without taking the time to ask would be the scummier action
3. Null

[Robbnva]

No I'm acting like people's responses to those questions can't and shouldn't be used against them and if a player does they are one of 2 things. 1. Not a very intelligent person/player or 2. Scum.

Personal opinions aren't alignment indicative unless you can prove they lied which I don't think you can. I don't even think it's even possible because lying about your own opinions is stupid.

People do like to lie on this site though so I guess it's possible but I don't know how you can prove it.

[Robbnva]

I won't say anything else cause I'm really not trying to be the shit starter anymore and I'm afraid I'll resort to insults which is my fall back.

I'm trying to change my image for the better so let's just agree to disagree. Just want to be on record that I think this is a bad push regardless what masq' alignment is.

[Robbnva]

What opinion are you referring to here?

The responses to the questions are all the players personal opinions (or should be) because they are non game related questions. Nobody should be lying in their responses.

[Robbnva]

If you're town, this is actually constructive though. You're ignoring information and I'm trying to show you that.

How is you and I of differing opinions arguing back and forth with each other knowing neither of us are going to change our minds and will probably just escalate the post count and end with me getting pissed off and insulting you going to be productive?

[Robbnva]

There's a difference between lying and being worried about people scumreading you for your answers and answering accordingly

I guess but if you answer them honestly which is what I'd expect from non game related/non alignment indicative questions, people shouldn't have to worry about somebody else not liking them.

[Robbnva]

You're not even trying to understand my point

You're correct. Because I disagree with the premise behind it

[Robbnva]

Which doesn't make sense to me but whatever I guess

I mean I do understand your point and what you are trying to do.

I just don't agree with it for reasons I already explained.

Post game we will see what we see and if masq is scum I'll be surprised he let those questions trip him up.

[Robbnva]

Robbnva, I’ll try to rephrase it: Is your abrasiveness the reason you don’t work well with others? If not then what is?

Did you have anything you wanted to discuss further from the questions you asked me, or are you satisfied? And by “satisfied” I mean a lean on my alignment.

It's a combination of my abrasiveness and stubbornness. Also my inability to trust people.

Nothing else I want to ask and no my questions weren't meant to learn anything about your alignment. I was bored so I figure I'd try to at least learn more about you.

[Robbnva]

Ok Grendel can be town.

Why?

[Robbnva]

Ok Grendel can be town.

Why?

He used RQS as town, felt successful with it (whether he actually WAS or not is irrelevent) and brought it here. Then he did a good job of outlining why. It feels genuine. He really believes he is doing a good thing for town.

You can't be serious?

[Robbnva]

Do I know you?

No. what about that makes you think that?

I mean we've played together before but that's irrelevant.

[Robbnva]

Smh

So basically scum can fool you by asking rqs at the beginning of the game. Noted

[Robbnva]

So since molla isn't mason. Can we lynch him now?

[Robbnva]

Why do people typically want to lynch people?

[Robbnva]

Oh mostly gut plus haven't really seen any protown posts from him.

[Robbnva]

Not a bad idea actually. So maybe I should town read the people I'm scum reading and scum read the people
I'm town reading and I can find scum?

[Robbnva]

Yeah let's try that

vote: hoopla

[Robbnva]

You're lucky people like you

[Robbnva]

No disgust cause he's probably scum and we will lose the game cause of it

[Robbnva]

consider it a compliment that I think your reads are so horrid that I don't think you feasibly be this bad as town

Except I'm not bad and I don't think I'm playing bad.


You falsely accuse someone of asking for a day 1 mass claim
You go and actually ask for one
Then you deny you did and still try to say somebody else did it.

That comes from scum or a bad player and I don't think you are a bad player so it has to be that you are scum.

[Robbnva]

Yeah I don't buy that excuse and your attempts to discredit me aren't appreciated. Now ive vowed to stop tunneling in games but I'm making the exception this time. I'm not going to move my vote off you until you are lynched or confirmed town by the mod himself.

Your entire iso is scummy.

Buh bye

[Robbnva]

Yeah please kill me and claim it's a vig kill.

[Robbnva]

mafia isn't a game of absolutes.

Yeah so people have told me about a hundred times

[Robbnva]

Yet I still play like it is because to me it is.

I also looked at your motives if that helps. I couldn't find town motives behind your posts either

[Robbnva]

mafia isn't a game of absolutes.

Yeah so people have told me about a hundred times

One would think it'd have sunk in by now.

It doesn't cause I don't agree. If I perceive something is scummy I can't ignore that and say it isn't just because there are no absolutes that means every accusation can be written off as being wrong because of no absolutes so do we just draw a name out of hat?

That's dumb.

[Robbnva]

Gun to my head, I'd say Vedith for post 47 alone.

But if there are no absolutes the how can that be true?

How can anything be scummy or townie and everything isn't just null?

You can't go and say such things and then go and make a post implying you are speaking in absolutes

[Robbnva]

The flaw in your brilliant plan is that you assign your own assumptions as motives to actions.

Actually I ask myself if a reasonable person (as obviously I'm not ) would find it scummy and if I think they would I do the same. It's called using common sense and logic.

[Robbnva]

Dumbass. This is why you aren't taken seriously. Fuck off.

So you aren't applying your own assumptions when you say a post is scummy? Bulllshit.

You go and fuck off

[Robbnva]

You can't have it both ways.

You can't accuse me of using absolutes if you are doing the same thing. That's being a hypocrite

[Robbnva]

You can't have it both ways.

You can't accuse me of using absolutes if you are doing the same thing. That's being a hypocrite

This is th single most accurate post in the entire history of the site.

And it deserves this

vote: house

Because there is literally no way a person with a town role pm would try and get somebody from speaking in absolutes and then turn around and speak in absolutes himself

And also accuse the same person of using their own assumptions and turn around and make an accusation using the what exactly? There own assumptions.

Call me bad, call m a shit player but if you turn out to be town this game you have just proven you are.

[Robbnva]

Probably scum together actually

[Robbnva]

Well I've found my scum team so y'all can go ahead and throw insults or whatever.

[Robbnva]

Or at least 2/3rds

[Robbnva]

This discussion stopped making sense on the last page.
An absolute is being pinged by someone who is not telling the truth and call it scum because town has no reason to lie. Actual scumhunting is looking for motivation. You are not doing that second thing.
Assume Molla was idd mistaken as he claimed, what else makes him scum?

Humor me

What's the town motivation to do something and falsely accuse somebody else of
Doing it and when called on it gets belligerent.

sorry "I was mistaken" can't be taken at face value as truthful because it the belligerent part

[Robbnva]

You refused to answer my questions

That's different than what molla is doing here.

Like completely different.

You can't present me an orange and try to convince me it's an apple

[Robbnva]

Sorry hoopla. Molla and house are scum

Pick one or the other

[Robbnva]

random aside while i read some more:

rob seems really fixated on scumtelling anyone for people potentially hypocritical/illogical. you should try looking for more meaningful things related to alignment.

Falsely accusing somebody of something that was obvious he didn't do is suspicious
Doing the exact thing he was accusing the other person of doing means he's scum

I'm in a bad fucking mood right now cause of house and especially molla so don't mess with me.

Vote one or the other

[Robbnva]

house and molla aren't realistic lynch chances today. move on and vote someone else instead of being dead weight.

Oh I'll be dead weight alright but not in a good way

Please vote one of these 2

I'm serious here

I'd prefer molla first since he's the one who got caught. House could just be trolling.

vote: molla

[Robbnva]

I really hate when long time users of this site refuse to vote other long term users of the site for what is obviously outside influences which is technically against the rules.

Just cause house and molla have been here a long time and you are probably chummy with them or have been at some point doesn't change the fact that what molla did can in no way be looked at as a town act. It can't even be looked at as a null act.

It was a delibarate and calculated deception.

If your going to play the game and play it fair I will too. But if this refusal to vote him when you can't give a single good reason as to why he's town (because there isn't one) you are guilty of the outside influence rule

[Robbnva]

oh ok, you're one of those people.

If by "one of you people" you mean someone who takes the game super serious. Yes
If you man people who get upset that people ignore blatant scum? Yes again
If you mean someone who gets mad that outside influences are obviously at play here? Than yes

If you mean somebody who is so pissed off he'll do something stupid? Yes

If you mean somebody who thinks there is a chance molla is actually town? No that's not me because he isn't. He's scum confirmed

[Robbnva]

Why isn't he realIstic?

He's committed a cardinal sin that no townie in their right mind would do. Nobody has done anything worse than what he's done yet you vote who? Vedith? Why vedith? What did vedith do? Oh wait somebody else voted vedith. Who was that? House did.

Why did house vote him?

Cause if this post?

however, by your tones, i haven't established you as chill yet, but you're in the maybe section for hoopla's town voting bloc. only chill townies allowed (no mafia).

Sounds like a great town bloc.
I'd sign up, but I just don't care enough to join a town bloc.

I do have concern that you are hiding a pointless comment, with a buddying comment.
Going by this, you have Robbnva as a LeanTown already, correct?

Really? That's worse than falsely accusing somebody of asking for a mass claim on day 1? That's scummier than actually asking for a mass claim on day 1? That's scummier than saying only scum ask for mass claim on day 1?

To quote Eddie Murphy in Beverly Hills cop

Get the fuck outta here

Vedith is at best a useless slot who hasn't really contributed much. The same could be said about you even.

Why act like what molla did is not only excusable but actually acceptable?

Seriously?

[Robbnva]

essentially be a voteless player today

No I'm going to be something way worse.

[Robbnva]

The motivation was to try and discredut somebody by falsely accusing them. When it was pointed out that he was wrong it was at that point he should have stopped and reread and resized he made a mistake.

Instead this happened

I don't really have a comment other than you need to pay more attention lmfao

ctc didn't suggest a day 1 mass claim but you did so i'm paying attention.

ill explain why you're being silly when you're older

And this

holy fuck you're an idiot

And this

read between the lines you dense fother mucker

No attempt to correct himself. No attempt to realize he made a mistake.

Let's lynch molla now please

[Robbnva]

(expired on 2016-07-07 10:31:39)

Countdown for a molla lynch. Don't let it reach 0

[Robbnva]

Why isn't he real

I

stic?

What is that and why?

Ask my iPhone why it decided to capitalize it. I have no clue.

Why aren't you voting molla yet? Time is ticking

[Robbnva]

Why isn't he real

I

stic?

What is that and why?

Ask my iPhone why it decided to capitalize it. I have no clue.

Why aren't you voting molla yet? Time is ticking

It's also bolded, which your phone cannot do on its own.

Why?

Wake bolded it moron

[Robbnva]

Why isn't he real

I

stic?

What is that and why?

1) Ask my iPhone why it decided to capitalize it. I have no clue.

2) Why aren't you voting molla yet? Time is ticking

1)

2) Convince me.

Ok but I've already explained why he's scum and if you don't lynch him in going to fuck this game up

[Robbnva]

[Robbnva]

(expired on 2016-07-05 10:31:39)

Countdown for a molla lynch. Don't let it reach 0

Damn a glitch in the matrix moved the timer.

[Robbnva]

No we are lynching you

There's no discussion

[Robbnva]

I'm not lynching Molla.

Ok

When I'm dead I hope you reconsider.

[Robbnva]

he falsely accused somebody of something that he was guilty of and when called on it got belligerent

There is other stuff but that's enough.

[Robbnva]

We can take beligerence off the table because

you've

been belligerent as well thus far.

Since you want our votes, could you at least list the post numbers for us to look at?

I mean I could but you could also read the game. It's pretty obvious and impossible to miss

[Robbnva]

Oh you haven't seen terrible yet

Btw if you are town (doubtful) what you did is worse than anything I've done. Falsely accusing somebody of
Something that you actually did yourself is scummy and deserves all the fucking pressure in the world.

Don't insult me because you fucked up

When that counter is up and your not lynchhed town is going to see a new level of terrible and it'll drastically change the game and put town at a disadvantage. That's how God damn sure I'm right that you are scum. Because for you to do what you did as town means that you would HANDS DOWN be the worst player I've ever seen in my life.

[Robbnva]

I highly advise Rob be vigged btw.

The way this game is going that won't be an issue

[Robbnva]

(expired on 2016-07-05 10:31:39)

Countdown for a molla lynch. Don't let it reach 0

[Robbnva]

So town is going for a PL instead of a scum lynch?



Fucking ridiculous

[Robbnva]

So town is going for a PL instead of a scum lynch?



Fucking ridiculous

Huh?

Vedith looks to be a policy lynch for lurking/inactivity and genuine scummy behavior is being ignored.

[Robbnva]

Rob has opted to be a nonentity in this game.

How so? I have a scum read and he's the scummiest person in the game and I'm trying to get him lynchhed. You guys are all defending molla because, well tbh I don't know why. You are accepting of his scummy behavior which is weird. The only thing I can think of is because you are all long time members of the site and know each other you have this unwritten rule to not actually lynch each other day one. Sure that sounds ridiculous but it's not as ridiculous as you guys saying molla isn't scummy for his actions.

When a player does something scummy you pressure him and try the get him lynchhed but that's not happening here.

Now if molla flips town, which I doubt he will then I'll probably bang my head against the wall or commit some other sort of bodily harm because I just can't imagine why a townie would do something so fucking scummy on purpose. No I won't apologize though because I wouldn't have done anything wrong.

You guys think I'm making an idle threat here. I assure you I'm not, unless somebody can explain why a townie would falsely accuse somebody else of something they did themselves and then get belligerent when called out on it in a way that actually makes sense. Your vote should be on molla.

Since nobody has been able to do that and the closest thing is basically "town does scummy things" which doesn't cut it for me. Because if that's the case and you all think vedith is scummy, you need to apply the same rationale.

Can't have it both ways people. Molla imo is being saved cause of outside influences and what sucks is I can't even prove it but I know that's the reason. It certainly isn't because he doesn't look like scum because he sure as fuck does.

[Robbnva]

That is not a vote on molla.

[Robbnva]

Why?

[Robbnva]

I already did

[Robbnva]

Since nobody cares about lynching scum today

vote: no lynch

[Robbnva]

bang my head against the wall or commit some other sort of bodily harm because I just can't imagine why a townie would do something so fucking scummy on purpose.

[Robbnva]

This site has changed quite a bit since I first joined. People are dumbing down their town game so they can play better as scum. They are doing intentionally scummy things so they can get it established as meta.

People lie on purpose, people manipulate posts for the sake of discrediting people, people say things that no townie should ever say

And all of this is done by townies.

How can you catch scum when townies are playing like scum intentionally?
How can anyone see somebody do something so scummy and write it off as a townie behavior?

Like I'm seriously confused here. And instead of people explaining it in a way to make sense they instead just treat me like shit and insult me like I'm the one who's done something wrong.

I see scummy behavior and I lynch scummy behavior. That's how i play mafia. If That makes me a shitty player then I guess I'm a shitty player.


Oh and the "there is no absolutes" line doesn't work because that can be applied to everything. Take this wagon on vedith. I have no read on him but every reason given for him can have that "there are no absolutes" applied and it basically nullifies all of the reasons given. How does that work?

Nobody can be lynched? Do you see how dumb that is?

[Robbnva]

surely, the bangings against the wall must be frequent enough in your career to remember that maybe your 100% isn't 100% after all?

There is no 100% in Mafia yes but you lynch the scummiest person and hands down the scummiest person so far has been molla. Like its like this.

Molla

















Everyone else

[Robbnva]

1. Why is falsely accusing somebody of something not scummy?
2. The thing he falsely accused Cmit of is something he said is more likely to come from scum which implies he's trying to set Cmit up as scum. Why is that not scummy?
3. Molla turned around and did the thing that he accused Cmit of, the think more likely to come from scum. Why is that not scummy?

[Robbnva]

You are my strongest townread though so I'm here to offer you a comfy spot on the BlankFace wagon. Vedith is also a great place to go considering he came in and dropped a shitty vote on Hoopla and then refused to vote Molla.

I'm only voting for a no lynch or for molla. If we can't lynch the most scummiest player in the game I can't compromise on anyone else.

[Robbnva]

Well blank isn't that person

[Robbnva]

Egg is the other person I'm suspicious of

[Robbnva]

You're stupid

[Robbnva]

If molla isn't lynched by the time my counter hits zero town is going to regret it. I'm not fucking joking.

P.edit - oh yes and you will see a whole new level of stupid if molla isn't lynched

[Robbnva]

For town reading Grendel for his rqs

[Robbnva]

(expired on 2016-07-05 10:31:39)

Countdown for a molla lynch. Don't let it reach 0

Go right ahead but you have this much time to do it.

The end result will be the same but I guess your way will have VCA to use. My way won't

[Robbnva]

Oh and for full disclosure I claim town pr

Now you want to see how stupid I can get?

[Robbnva]

Egg is the other person I'm suspicious of

This

I am open to hearing.

That's not on the table though. So tick tock

[Robbnva]

For town reading Grendel for his rqs

See I know the difference between honest scummy behavior and just bad play.

Town reading anyone for rqs is scummy but it's possible egg could be town just playing poorly.

What molla did though was way worse.

@house - you are still on my list. Don't worry.

[Robbnva]

I immediately counter claim anything Robb claims.

Ok

[Robbnva]

You'll know in less than 24 hours if I am.

[Robbnva]

Lynch molla
Scum kills me tonight
Game gets mostly solved and becomes enjoyable.

It's a win for everyone who isn't scum

[Robbnva]

I've already clarified with a site mod that my punishment will result in a mod kill and a temporary site ban. It's not egregious enough for a permanent ban.

What next?

Only people who benefit right now are scum. If you town you need to trust and believe I'm 100% serious right now.

[Robbnva]

yways, why are you threatening this anti-town behavior Robbnva?

Cause molla is scum and people aren't lynching him because he's molla and are willing to let their friend live longer just cause they are friends.

[Robbnva]

That's the point of my deadline. Town doesn't want to help themselves so I'm helping them or doing what they want and letting town suffer whole letting scum off the hook

[Robbnva]

are you really 39 years old?

Yes.

If you are town are you really that dumb that you can't see molla is scum?

[Robbnva]

Let's just mass claim now

Me and House are Masons

Popcorn House

I disagree I think scum is more likely to suggest a mass claim d1

^ scum

Basically admits it if you think about it.

[Robbnva]

Since sarcasm isn't clear on the Internet I can't possibly know. Usually sarcasm included an emoji or something

[Robbnva]

I don't get why you're so sure you need to do this. You just saying how you hate people adding anti-town quarks to their meta, and this is pretty anti-town. Is this normal for you, or are you feeling idk more indignity then usual?

When in Rome?

[Robbnva]

If you're Scum you're getting as much use out of Robb's behavior as possible.

This

wake the issue is Mafia doesn't want to lose molla this early so they are banking on me going crazy.

We need the townies to start thinking rationally here. Not lynching molla hurts town. Lynching molla hurts scum (best case) and hurts nobody but me (worst case)

[Robbnva]

So you want to lynch a pr? Yeah that's protown

[Robbnva]

Oops /sarcasm

[Robbnva]

If you're Town your anti-Town behavior hurts Towns.

Not lynching scum hurts town more than my anti town behavior

[Robbnva]

Robb, House, question time.

At the moment which 3 players are you willing to lynch?

Please answer, because it matters, especially later in the game.

Hoopla, house, and idk about the 3rd. Maybe masq?


Question for everyone. Assume I stop my counter and just "play the game"

How in the hell can I just sit by watching scum get off Scott free and basically ignored for the rest of the game?

[Robbnva]

Not hoopla. I meant molla

[Robbnva]

Rob because he's a terrorist that is also lying about being a pr.

I'm not lying

I don't lie

[Robbnva]

Robb, House, question time.

At the moment which 3 players are you willing to lynch?

Please answer, because it matters, especially later in the game.

Hoopla, house, and idk about the 3rd. Maybe masq?


Question for everyone. Assume I stop my counter and just "play the game"

How in the hell can I just sit by watching scum get off Scott free and basically ignored for the rest of the game?

I think of you retract your timer-demand it'll help you in this game.

You're allowed to ask questions. You're allowed to ask many questions.

Sure I can ask questions but nobody would answer them cause they would all be surrounding molla or asking why he wasn't lynched yet.

[Robbnva]

I've already clarified with a site mod that my punishment will result in a mod kill and a temporary site ban. It's not egregious enough for a permanent ban.

Out of curiosity, when will this happen?

Was going to be tomorrow but I'm feeling froggy today.

[Robbnva]

Assumptions about what?

[Robbnva]

What can dier do? If he force replaces me Don't you think that will just force my hand? Do you think force replacing me would stop me from what I want to do?

At this point mod intervention only makes it worse

I'm not making assumptions about me asking questions about molla cause until he's lynched I'm not focusing on anyone else.

[Robbnva]

If Molla was seriously claiming, then why did he hand the popcorn to someone that is supposedly modconfirmed to him?

We aren't even talking about his lol mason claim

[Robbnva]

We are talking about him falsely accusing somebody of something
We're talking about him asking for a mass claim
We're talking about him saying mass claims requests day 1 usually come from scum

[Robbnva]

oh well I didn't ask but thank you

[Robbnva]

Apologies for my temper. I am no longer making any threats to anyone. I'm still pushing my scum reads however.

vote: molla

I'll consider lynches on house or egg atm but don't personally agree with a vedith lynch.

Sorry to be a pest. I'd appreciate it if nobody attempts to argue with me and I'll refrain from arguing with you.

[Robbnva]

BlankFace continues to not scumhunting and play referee

I mean really this could be applied to half the player list so why single one person out?

[Robbnva]

Well I'd have to refresh my memory but it's a pretty safe bet that I'll be able to find at least 4/5

[Robbnva]

Ok looking at ISOs

Molla - hasn't imo
Blank - hasn't imo
Chaos - not very active for my liking but was pushing on masq early on so meh
Cmit - hasn't imo
Egg - not a popular opinion but I don't really think he has either. Lots of catchup posts and votes somebody for a very bad reason.
Elyse - meh mind of think she's buddying me. I'm not sure what she's doing is scum hunting though
Grendel - majority of his posts revolve around his rqs and asking follow up questions based on their responses. (Wow didn't I say it would cause a distraction? ) so he's not really scum hunting cause the rqs and people's responses imo aren't AI. Votes House but idk why
Hoopla - sheeps on to the vedith wagon. Nothing special from her yet
House - votes vedith for a very dumb reason. Outside of that I don't see much useful stuff from him
Masq - catchup votes and then votes the claimed Pr. No scum hunting though (probably should be in my lynch pool also. He can move up to 3rd and put egg at 4)
Vedith - not very active but provides a good reason and vote on hoopla. Not sure id say he's scum hunting but I agree with his reason for his vote and that looked very pro town to me
Wake - kind of get the same buddying vibe from him. Likes he's trying to WK me or something.

So all in all id say everyone needs to step up their games. Anyone voting vedith well y'all are just boggling my mind cause I've seen others do lots worse than vedith.

[Robbnva]

You guys can say I'm wrong about molla but anyone who thinks house is town really needs to re-read his reactions to me especially after I claimed. He totally exposed himself as scum even trying to discredit my claim and get me lynched.

[Robbnva]

vote: house

actually

This needs to go

[Robbnva]

yet i'm not lying

[Robbnva]

Nope no clue actually. The game mod doesn't think I've violated any site rules and outside of maybe cursing at people and calling people names, there's no other rule you could say I've violated.

Few free to report me though but doesn't change the fact that I'm still a pr and not lying about that.

I'm sorry for outing I'm a pr, I'll say I'm not that awesome of one but the damage is done already. I won't say what I am though.

[Robbnva]

i agree.

I've said my peace and you know who I'm voting and who I'm not willing to vote.

Day 2, assuming I'm alive and we have a flip on somebody I'll attempt to readdress my reads.

[Robbnva]

I'm not going to read the wall post so if you have a game related question. Please repost. If you have a question about anything to do with rqs consider those ignored.

[Robbnva]

Skimming some of these since I can't sleep. The one on house is really fucking good and pretty on point. The house/wake interaction is actually what made me pretty sure house was scum and you are right he was banking on me being modkilled.

As for mine. Obviously some people will disagree but the dumbing down of meta is something I believe and can link you to posts I've made about it on my other account (pretty sure jfsf account has at least 2 games where I've said it)

[Robbnva]

Haven't read your molla one because I can't stand to read anything about him atm. But in the morning I'll try and read it with an open mind.

[Robbnva]

What is all this bs with mod kill or whatever? I'm so confused that the thread was locked and nothing happened.

Someone explain please because it's a bunch of vague accusations and I have no idea what's going on.

I was threatening to post my role pm
House was pushing my buttons trying to make me go through with it early and I thought about it
Mod locked the thread for reasons unknown
House now with egg on his face still wants me modkilled. Problem is I've not done anything to deserve it.
Force replaced probably but not modkilled.
Mod decided to let me play (thanks mod)
Now house is screwed cause his actions don't look like they come from somebody who's town. Im glad at least one other person has picked up on it.

House is basically caught. Nobody is going to lynch him though, not day 1 anyway. But he's looking really bad. Of course his tough boy exterior isn't going to let anyone see him sweat, but if you read the interactions with wake especially. You can't see town motivation imo.

[Robbnva]

I've already clarified with a site mod that my punishment will result in a mod kill and a temporary site ban. It's not egregious enough for a permanent ban.

Out of curiosity, when will this happen?

But this shows you actually want it to happen. Asking me when I'm going to do it implies you are licking your lips in anticipation

Game over

[Robbnva]

House, if Robb retracts the demand will you put BBmolla back on the table where he belongs Day 1?

The second he's modkilled, absolutely.

I'm NOT giving him a pass after everything he's done to destroy this game.

I'll take it to mith if I have to.

Oh shit

[Robbnva]

Cmon hoopla if you are town you have to see house is clearly scum

[Robbnva]

He denied trying to get me mod killed yet hundred posts later threatens to go to mith to make it happen.

If he were town he would want force replacement. Not mod kill like he said

[Robbnva]

Ok maybe not a hundred posts...

[Robbnva]

I'm sad Robb wasn't tbqh.

I don't really think House is scummy for defending me.

If your town why would you be sad a town pr wasn't mod killed?

[Robbnva]

You said you never wished me mod killed. Yet you did say you want me mod killed.

Why did you lie?

[Robbnva]

Cmon hoopla if you are town you have to see house is clearly scum

i haven't really been reading your posts recently, to be honest.

but i'm sure whatever you're claiming happened, it's incorrect.

Except if you read house's posts they prove I'm correct.

At least you have confirmed that either you are all scum or al working together based on outside influences.

When scum gets caught in a lie and you ignore it. That's inexcusable if you are town. Regardless what you think about me as a player.

[Robbnva]

Or you don't care about winning and just want to lose the game to spite me.

That's awesome

[Robbnva]

Cmon hoopla if you are town you have to see house is clearly scum

i haven't really been reading your posts recently, to be honest.

but i'm sure whatever you're claiming happened, it's incorrect.

Except if you read house's posts they prove I'm correct.

At least you have confirmed that either you are all scum or al working together based on outside influences.

When scum gets caught in a lie and you ignore it. That's inexcusable if you are town. Regardless what you think about me as a player.

Hoopla please respond to this.

Also please Tell me how house's recent lie makes you think he's still possibly town

[Robbnva]

He actually nailed your play to a tee

[Robbnva]

We're all conspiring against you.

That's not actually what I was saying. What I'm saying is the 3 of you have predetermined not to seriously vote each other for at least day 1. I believe this was determined in advance of the game being started regardless of alignment and so far it's been proven true.

At the very least one of hoopla or molla should be voting you based off you getting caught in a blatant lie that proves you are scum yet they both still have you as town.

That doesn't happen without pre planning. I can't believe they would be that stupid to honestly think your lie wasn't actually a lie. I can't believe they would be that stupid to read your interaction with wake and walk away thinking wake looked town and you didn't.

[Robbnva]

He actually nailed your play to a tee

Proof that I'm right.

Why did you lie about not trying to get mod killed?

[Robbnva]

Hoopla

What are your thoughts on houses lie. And don't say it didn't happen because I quoted where it did

[Robbnva]

Please me stop ignoring me

[Robbnva]

Try to minimize your lie. Great job.

Lets hope people not named hoopla and molla will take the game seriously.

[Robbnva]

He actually nailed your play to a tee

Proof that I'm right.

Why did you lie about not trying to get mod killed?

I didn't. You flat out said you were getting modkilled, Corky.

You just quoted one of your posts to elyse saying you weren't trying to have me mod killed.

I quoted a later post where you threatened to go to mith to make sure I was mod killed.

How is that not a lie exactly?

Shall I quote it again for you?

[Robbnva]

I wanted Robb force-replaced.

House, if Robb retracts the demand will you put BBmolla back on the table where he belongs Day 1?

The second he's modkilled, absolutely.

I'm NOT giving him a pass after everything he's done to destroy this game.

I'll take it to mith if I have to.

The bolded proved YOU want me modkilled.



And don't give me the bs about taking my word for it because wake specifically asked you if I retracted my threat which means me mod killing myself wasn't on the table anymore.

You lose. Obviously molla and house have agreed to not vote you. Hopefully everyone else still has some brain cells left

[Robbnva]

I want you out of the game because you're toxic.

You want me modkilled. You even said so.

Your part about wanting me force replaced was a lie.

At least one good thing will eventually come out of this mess of a day phase. House will flip scum at some point.

It may not be day 1, but it'll happen cause you have slipped

[Robbnva]

I could replace out right now and you will still flip scum.

So I'll make a deal. I'll request replacement night 1, if we lynch house today.

That's a fair deal. Win/win for everyone

[Robbnva]

lol yeah I'm still a pr though.

If I get replaced for confusing games that's fine but I'm not lying in this game. I am a pr and you are scum

[Robbnva]

mod, if house is lynchhed today I will request replacement

Will that work?

[Robbnva]

I assure you 10000000% I am a pr this game though.

I won't say anything else cause it's the gray area of the site rules

[Robbnva]

mod, if house is lynchhed today I will request replacement

Will that work?

No. I want the mod to confirm that you WILL be replaced after my lynch so you can't back out of it.

Well yeah that's the point of bolding for the mod. He will see it and acknowledge the request

[Robbnva]

I made a mistake by confusing games. If that's punishment worthy report me to N. Nothing I can do about an accident.

[Robbnva]

if you have already admitted that your a Power role, would it hurt to reveal what power role you are?

Wouldn't hurt but not really necessary. I mean no point giving scum extra info. They have to decide if it's a risk to leave me alive or kill me.

[Robbnva]

House. Let's play hypothetical here.

Assume you are asked a role fishing question by somebody and you have a pr but don't want them to know that. How would you respond to that question?

[Robbnva]

It's day one. Lots of things can happen going forward.

There is no town motivation for you trying to have me modkilled. If people can't see that because they are pissed about me having a mental break down. So be it.

[Robbnva]

No you said you wanted me modkilled

Shall I quote it a 3rd time?

[Robbnva]

mod, if house is lynchhed today I will request replacement

Will that work?

mod is this acceptable to you?