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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:21 pm

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rob has more than a quarter of the posts in a 13 player game. as far as i'm concerned, he's said his piece for today. we all pretty much know where he stands, so we don't need it repeated.

the only thing i'm really interested in hearing from him is an answer to this question from house:
In post 354, House wrote:Hey Robb, how do you react when the person you're 110% sure is scum flips town? Do you even try to apologize for being a gigantic waste of time, or do you play "blame the victim"?
because i'm sure this must happen on a regular basis for rob and i am genuinely curious how he rationalizes an absoutely certain scumread flipping town.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:26 pm

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In post 424, Egg wrote:
In post 422, Robbnva wrote:So town is going for a PL instead of a scum lynch?

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Fucking ridiculous
Huh?
Rob has opted to be a nonentity in this game.
The apology that resulted in my indefinite ban:

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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:34 am

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In post 424, Egg wrote:
In post 422, Robbnva wrote:So town is going for a PL instead of a scum lynch?

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Fucking ridiculous
Huh?
Vedith looks to be a policy lynch for lurking/inactivity and genuine scummy behavior is being ignored.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:44 am

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In post 426, House wrote:Rob has opted to be a nonentity in this game.
How so? I have a scum read and he's the scummiest person in the game and I'm trying to get him lynchhed. You guys are all defending molla because, well tbh I don't know why. You are accepting of his scummy behavior which is weird. The only thing I can think of is because you are all long time members of the site and know each other you have this unwritten rule to not actually lynch each other day one. Sure that sounds ridiculous but it's not as ridiculous as you guys saying molla isn't scummy for his actions.

When a player does something scummy you pressure him and try the get him lynchhed but that's not happening here.

Now if molla flips town, which I doubt he will then I'll probably bang my head against the wall or commit some other sort of bodily harm because I just can't imagine why a townie would do something so fucking scummy on purpose. No I won't apologize though because I wouldn't have done anything wrong.

You guys think I'm making an idle threat here. I assure you I'm not, unless somebody can explain why a townie would falsely accuse somebody else of something they did themselves and then get belligerent when called out on it in a way that actually makes sense. Your vote should be on molla.

Since nobody has been able to do that and the closest thing is basically "town does scummy things" which doesn't cut it for me. Because if that's the case and you all think vedith is scummy, you need to apply the same rationale.

Can't have it both ways people. Molla imo is being saved cause of outside influences and what sucks is I can't even prove it but I know that's the reason. It certainly isn't because he doesn't look like scum because he sure as fuck does.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:45 am

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In post 336, Hoopla wrote:i'm liking the composition of the vedith wagon: bbmolla, cmitc1 and house make for a fairly town trio, so i am going to jump on board given i don't have a town read on vedith.

VOTE: vedith

more to come...
This just reads scum jumping on a wagon to me.
He doesn't have a town read on me, however, not directly calling me scum or scum lean there.
Basically just saying "Oh, there's others voting him? Lets imply they are town and join in"

UNVOTE: Egg
VOTE: Hoopla

I'll take a proper look later at Hoopla.
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:55 am

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That is not a vote on molla. :facepalm:
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:24 am

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In post 430, Robbnva wrote:That is not a vote on molla. :facepalm:
I don't like the Molla vote.
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:35 am

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Why?
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:39 am

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answer my 425, rob.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:39 am

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I already did
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:44 am

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VOTE COUNT 1.07


Vedith (5): BBmolla, cmitc1, House, Hoopla, Wake88
Masquerade (2): ChaosOmega, Egg
BBmolla (1): Robbnva
Elyse (1): BlankFace
ChaosOmega (1): Masquerade
BlankFace (1): Elyse
Hoopla (1): Vedith


No Vote (1): Grendel

TIMER

(expired on 2016-07-09 22:00:00)

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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:06 am

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Since nobody cares about lynching scum today

vote: no lynch
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:15 am

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what do you usually do when your 100% obvscum reads are wrong?
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:16 am

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In post 428, Robbnva wrote:bang my head against the wall or commit some other sort of bodily harm because I just can't imagine why a townie would do something so fucking scummy on purpose.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:24 am

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surely, the bangings against the wall must be frequent enough in your career to remember that maybe your 100% isn't 100% after all?
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:26 am

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This site has changed quite a bit since I first joined. People are dumbing down their town game so they can play better as scum. They are doing intentionally scummy things so they can get it established as meta.

People lie on purpose, people manipulate posts for the sake of discrediting people, people say things that no townie should ever say

And all of this is done by townies.

How can you catch scum when townies are playing like scum intentionally?
How can anyone see somebody do something so scummy and write it off as a townie behavior?

Like I'm seriously confused here. And instead of people explaining it in a way to make sense they instead just treat me like shit and insult me like I'm the one who's done something wrong.

I see scummy behavior and I lynch scummy behavior. That's how i play mafia. If That makes me a shitty player then I guess I'm a shitty player.


Oh and the "there is no absolutes" line doesn't work because that can be applied to everything. Take this wagon on vedith. I have no read on him but every reason given for him can have that "there are no absolutes" applied and it basically nullifies all of the reasons given. How does that work?

Nobody can be lynched? Do you see how dumb that is?
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:27 am

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In post 439, Hoopla wrote:surely, the bangings against the wall must be frequent enough in your career to remember that maybe your 100% isn't 100% after all?
There is no 100% in Mafia yes but you lynch the scummiest person and hands down the scummiest person so far has been molla. Like its like this.

Molla

















Everyone else
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:31 am

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In post 440, Robbnva wrote:I see scummy behavior and I lynch scummy behavior. That's how i play mafia.
the problem is, what you consider scummy i don't consider scummy, and seemingly many others here don't.

it is ok to disagree on things. it isn't ok to spaz out and be stubborn out of spite because you can't convince others of your perspective. learning to compromise is an important part of the game, because if everyone plays with your attitude we get nowhere when townies' opinions aren't overlapping completely.

you are the only one who thinks molla is scum. it's time to move on.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:33 am

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No I also think Molla is scum
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:37 am

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Also Robb I totally get your frustration re: older players not voting for each other D1. I went head to head against Thor in a mini twice and it seemed impossible to overcome but I actually did and he was scum both times. While I agree with you re: Molla, I don't think he's going to be lynched today because other people don't see the reasons for him being scum. I really don't think it's the older player thing this time.

You are my strongest townread though so I'm here to offer you a comfy spot on the BlankFace wagon. Vedith is also a great place to go considering he came in and dropped a shitty vote on Hoopla and then refused to vote Molla.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:38 am

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1. Why is falsely accusing somebody of something not scummy?
2. The thing he falsely accused Cmit of is something he said is more likely to come from scum which implies he's trying to set Cmit up as scum. Why is that not scummy?
3. Molla turned around and did the thing that he accused Cmit of, the think more likely to come from scum. Why is that not scummy?
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:40 am

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In post 444, Elyse wrote:You are my strongest townread though so I'm here to offer you a comfy spot on the BlankFace wagon. Vedith is also a great place to go considering he came in and dropped a shitty vote on Hoopla and then refused to vote Molla.
I'm only voting for a no lynch or for molla. If we can't lynch the most scummiest player in the game I can't compromise on anyone else.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:44 am

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If you can't lynch the scummiest player in the game then why not compromise on the second or third scummiest? There is more than one scum you know.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:54 am

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Well blank isn't that person
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:57 am

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Egg is the other person I'm suspicious of
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