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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:17 pm

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Oh no! I'm making another long post better hide the children lol.

Spoiler: Robbnva
Town, loud and grating town, but town nonetheless. I did not like what he has been doing post 367 onwards. In fact post 288 and 364 makes me think that this whole deal is all about personal vendettas and little to do with the game. I have not played enough games here to get a full view of Mafiascum’s meta, but if post 440 is true then I think I get where Robbnva’s frustration is coming from. Not that I’m excusing his actions as okay since this countdown thing is anti-town too. Anyways I have strong town lean on Robbnva because I’ve never seen a scum play this self destructively on D1 before, and I guess gut reasons too.

Spoiler: Elyse
Has been alright, she makes good posts and I haven’t seen any reason to suspect her. Town lean.

Spoiler: Blankface
Blankface: Aside from agreeing with him on the drama I don’t really have anything positive to say for him. He has been pretty absent, and his posts up to 390 have been pretty lazy, and uninteresting. It took being voted by Elyse to kick him into action. I am interested to see what he does now that he seems to be making real moves. Null read, but could easily swing scum.

Spoiler: Cmitc1
I get he is new, but I am really not getting town vibes from this guy. I don’t like posts 58, 106, and I really dislike 118. He has no posts with strong town intent. His pressure vote on Vedith is just a pressure vote and means very little. The rest of his posts really do not have anything to do with the game state, and he is not making very many stances. I am definitely leaning scum on this slot.

If Cmitc1 really uses RQS in his case to lynch me I am gonna laugh. Because that is a dumb reason to suspect somebody of being scum. Why not suspect any of the people for making RVS votes? It’s the same deal. The other complaint he put against me, inactivity, is also amusing since he has not been any more active then I have. Any explanation why wanting to employ RQS makes me scummy?

Spoiler: Vedith
His questioning in posts 47, and 178 left a bad taste in my mouth. Also recent post 515 is weird, and I’m not sure what to make of it. He made the stance that Hoopla is scum, I’d like to see him elaborate further on that. Mainly so I can get a better idea of his thought process. Right now I’m leaning scum.

Spoiler: Wake88
I wasn’t sure have to think about this guy at first due to his absence, but I do like how he tried reasoning with Robbnva, and House. I also agree with his post at 501 so much, and share his feeling on House. I read him as null, but I want to town read him.

Spoiler: Hoopla
Initial gut town read. Not entire sure where I stand on her now though. Nothing seems to be standing out to me at the moment.

Spoiler: BBmolla
I’m not a fan of how he has been playing D1. It’s just that posts 166-171 looks really town to me. If I were scum I’d never use so much Meta and AtE as defense so early, since it could weaken credibility into future games to do it as scum here. Would like him to do something other than defend himself in future though.

Spoiler: House
I know people aren’t going to take me seriously on the RQS questions, but he did fail them.

There are other things too that he did that I could see a great deal of scum motivation behind. First and foremost is his interaction with Robbnva. Considering that House has previous experience with Rob he should have known that what a short fuse Rob has. Therefore I can’t understand why a town!House would berate Rob so, there is nothing town could gain from it. Subtract House from the picture, and I sincerely doubt that things with Robanva would have escalated as much as they did. It looks to me like House counted on Rob to be mod killed.

Then Houses interactions with Wake look really bad. Imo Wake was very reasonable in his approach to House, but House remained stand offish the whole time. This seemed to set off some flags to Wake, as noted in post 501, and House’s reaction was to scum read Wake in post 541.

Lastly is House doggedly defending Molla for no apparent reason. I guess he was town reading him sure, but rereading trough the game I swear the House jumped to Molla’s defense MORE than Molla did, which bothers me. Mainly because Molla is a grown man who can speak for himself. The fact that BBmolla is widely town read makes me think that House’s hard defense of Molla is for town cred.

So yeah, I think House is scum lord. You all should lynch him.


Spoiler: Masquerade
Masquerade: I wasn’t feeling very good about this slot at first, but at this point they’re a pretty flat null. But hey, that’s better then being scum read right? ;)

Spoiler: Egg
Egg is a nice poster, and I’d like to town read him, however I’m thinking that this is typical Egg posting ablates, so I should count him up to be a null. Maybe null leaning town then.

Spoiler: ChaosOmega
Chaos hasn’t been very active yet, so null read.


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Robbnva, Elyse, BBMolla,
Wake88, Hoopla, Egg, Masquerade, ChaosOmega, Blankface,
Vedith, Cmitc1, House
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:22 pm

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Skimming some of these since I can't sleep. The one on house is really fucking good and pretty on point. The house/wake interaction is actually what made me pretty sure house was scum and you are right he was banking on me being modkilled.

As for mine. Obviously some people will disagree but the dumbing down of meta is something I believe and can link you to posts I've made about it on my other account (pretty sure jfsf account has at least 2 games where I've said it)
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:23 pm

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Haven't read your molla one because I can't stand to read anything about him atm. But in the morning I'll try and read it with an open mind.
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:43 pm

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What is all this bs with mod kill or whatever? I'm so confused that the thread was locked and nothing happened.

Someone explain please because it's a bunch of vague accusations and I have no idea what's going on.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:45 pm

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I'm not going to thoroughly revel the result of my RQS. I'll just say House failed it, Masquerade and Egg were nulls, and Robbnva was null but leaning town.

The reason I'm not going to talk about how I came to these conclusions is because I'd have to retire the set after doing so. I don't see any point on wasting this set on you all if you aren't going to believe me to began with. In fact I almost wish I didn't bother. I was expecting some resistance, but I wasn't anticipating that I'd be ignored by 3/4s of the player roster. It kind of took the wind out of my sails, because I felt really invalidated.

Pre-edit: I was wanting to rant about how unappreciated I felt, but now I think I won't. Thanks Rob.

It was probably my fault anyway considering that I have been really quiet up until today.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:46 pm

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Huh, the storm blew over Elyse.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:48 pm

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But why is House scum for banking on Robb getting modkilled? Why is it not just because he dislikes him?
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:54 pm

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In post 581, Elyse wrote:But why is House scum for banking on Robb getting modkilled? Why is it not just because he dislikes him?
That's your question?

Why aren't you curious about why they're both blatantly misrepping my play?

I wanted Robb
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:55 pm

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In post 478, House wrote:
In post 475, Robbnva wrote:I've already clarified with a site mod that my punishment will result in a mod kill and a temporary site ban. It's not egregious enough for a permanent ban.

What next?

Only people who benefit right now are scum. If you town you need to trust and believe I'm 100% serious right now.
Here's the problem... I think a mod kill hurts town.

Force replacement would be much better for the game overall.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:56 pm

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In post 578, Elyse wrote:What is all this bs with mod kill or whatever? I'm so confused that the thread was locked and nothing happened.

Someone explain please because it's a bunch of vague accusations and I have no idea what's going on.
I was threatening to post my role pm
House was pushing my buttons trying to make me go through with it early and I thought about it
Mod locked the thread for reasons unknown
House now with egg on his face still wants me modkilled. Problem is I've not done anything to deserve it.
Force replaced probably but not modkilled.
Mod decided to let me play (thanks mod)
Now house is screwed cause his actions don't look like they come from somebody who's town. Im glad at least one other person has picked up on it.

House is basically caught. Nobody is going to lynch him though, not day 1 anyway. But he's looking really bad. Of course his tough boy exterior isn't going to let anyone see him sweat, but if you read the interactions with wake especially. You can't see town motivation imo.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:58 pm

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In post 531, House wrote:
In post 475, Robbnva wrote:I've already clarified with a site mod that my punishment will result in a mod kill and a temporary site ban. It's not egregious enough for a permanent ban.
Out of curiosity, when will this happen?
But this shows you actually want it to happen. Asking me when I'm going to do it implies you are licking your lips in anticipation

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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:59 pm

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i genuinely don't know what is going on now.

i am mostly waiting for the non-contributors to contribute and over-contributors to stop.

lets switch up the vedith/blankface wagons:

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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:59 pm

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In post 533, House wrote:
In post 530, Wake1 wrote:House, if Robb retracts the demand will you put BBmolla back on the table where he belongs Day 1?
The second he's modkilled, absolutely.


I'm NOT giving him a pass after everything he's done to destroy this game.

I'll take it to mith if I have to.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:00 pm

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Cmon hoopla if you are town you have to see house is clearly scum
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:00 pm

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I'm sad Robb wasn't tbqh.

I don't really think House is scummy for defending me.
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:01 pm

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He denied trying to get me mod killed yet hundred posts later threatens to go to mith to make it happen.

If he were town he would want force replacement. Not mod kill like he said
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:01 pm

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Ok maybe not a hundred posts...
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:01 pm

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In post 588, Robbnva wrote:Cmon hoopla if you are town you have to see house is clearly scum
i haven't really been reading your posts recently, to be honest.

but i'm sure whatever you're claiming happened, it's incorrect.
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:02 pm

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In post 587, Robbnva wrote:
In post 533, House wrote:
In post 530, Wake1 wrote:House, if Robb retracts the demand will you put BBmolla back on the table where he belongs Day 1?
The second he's modkilled, absolutely.


I'm NOT giving him a pass after everything he's done to destroy this game.

I'll take it to mith if I have to.
Oh shit
YOU are the one that SAID you'd be modkilled.

I took your words at face value.

Are you discouraging that?
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:02 pm

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In post 589, BBmolla wrote:I'm sad Robb wasn't tbqh.

I don't really think House is scummy for defending me.
If your town why would you be sad a town pr wasn't mod killed?
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:02 pm

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In post 586, Hoopla wrote:i genuinely don't know what is going on now.

i am mostly waiting for the non-contributors to contribute and over-contributors to stop.

lets switch up the vedith/blankface wagons:

UNVOTE:
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Do you think Vedith is town now?
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:03 pm

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You said you never wished me mod killed. Yet you did say you want me mod killed.

Why did you lie?
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:03 pm

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What did he do that deserves a force replace?

Did I miss something obvious

Like what the hell is happening. I thought this was just a dick measuring contest but then it blew up

P-edit:
Threatening to post your PM? Really? :igmeou:

Still don't understand what makes him scum because tbh I would be fine if you were force replaced too because that's just shitty of you and takes the fun out of the game.

Logging off MS for the night, will return tomorrow with more thoughts after a reread of the shitshow of these last few pages.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:04 pm

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In post 594, Robbnva wrote:
In post 589, BBmolla wrote:I'm sad Robb wasn't tbqh.

I don't really think House is scummy for defending me.
If your town why would you be sad a town pr wasn't mod killed?
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:04 pm

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In post 597, Elyse wrote:P-edit:
Threatening to post your PM? Really?
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