Designer Mafia 2007 - Game Over, Final Scene Posted!

Nocmen · Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:34 pm

meep meep meep

meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:53 pm

meep meep meep?

Nocmen · Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:33 pm

meep meep

Nocmen · Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:19 pm

Aren't I the cutest thing ever?

anyways, random

Vote: Belgarion

Nocmen · Post Post #29 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:30 pm

ZONEACE wrote:
Nocmen wrote:Aren't I the cutest thing ever?

anyways, random
Vote: Belgarion

I like question mark smilies too.

Bamboomancer wrote:Here are some things that are true:

We should lynch the scum.
MoS is probably going to screw with our heads.
Dr. Pepper is the best damn drink EVER.
Um... I need air to breathe?

This is good stuff people.

BTW, I'm not going to double vote at this stage, but for day one, I can pretty much say that I'm only voting for Belgarion. He's the right lynch guys. (DOC SENSES?!?)

Wait...what are you saying? I think theres something hidden in this post that I'm not getting from a first read of it.

Nocmen · Post Post #40 (isolation #5) » Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:51 am

The meeping may or may not have been a joke. No further comment will be entailed upon that.

Also, FL, it would be more helpful for the town if you just went and said my MS name, not using Nemcon.

Unvote

OMGUS

Vote: Battle Mage

Nocmen · Post Post #54 (isolation #6) » Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:24 pm

Battle Mage is scum going after those who with possible PRs.

Nocmen · Post Post #68 (isolation #7) » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:35 am

meep meep meep meep . meep meep meep meep meep meep . meep meep meep .

Nocmen · Post Post #73 (isolation #8) » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:41 pm

Thyroidectomy wrote:
This Ren-Faire thing is suspect
okay. why?

I can guarentee those who sign up for the Renaissance Fair will profit.

I would prefer not to sign up for my death please.

Nocmen · Post Post #85 (isolation #9) » Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:35 am

Well I suggest you comment more upon those votes.

You know, thats the real townie thing to do.

Nocmen · Post Post #93 (isolation #10) » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:55 pm

Thyroidectomy wrote:Important Notice:

When I quote someone, I want a response only from them. I will blatantly ignore all other responses. Thanks!

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #100 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:55 am

Ok thyroid, if you really want an answer to your questions, here you go.

If a townie really thinks someone is scum, they should explain their vote fully, aside from a certain few circumstances that would hurt the town more (ex. They would need to claim they are the cop on day 2 or something when the town is not anywhere near LyLo yet).

Scum are usually less likely to explain their votes because many times they are pushing people without much reasoning, just that they know they are not scum. This means that anything they say is BS, and if any of that is proven wrong then they are suspected of being scum.

Also, bamboomancer, keep the damn football out of this topic kthnx. On a note, you also claim that Belgarion is the lynch for today, but you voted Thyroid just lines earlier in the same post.

Unvote, Vote:Bamboomancer

Nocmen · Post Post #104 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:16 am

stark wrote:Nocmen: Is there something that activates your PR, or are you just doing it for fun?
1 meep for activation
2 meep for fun

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Nocmen · Post Post #110 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:37 am

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Nocmen · Post Post #116 (isolation #14) » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:23 pm

UltimaAvalon wrote:In regads to the Nocmen thing. I think its perfectly feasible that he's not allowed to talk about the PR, and if he does he must feign ignorance at its existence. Therefor, the correct thing to do is, since there are times when he does speak plain english, just ignore the meep posts.

Also, I remember a role in one fo Pariah's games that was powered by FoS's , and self destructed, killing millions. That, and a bad experience I had when I did go to Scarbie Faire, are good reason why I wont be buying a ticket.

That was FoSes though, not buying tickets, which would be a more obscure way, but also more punishing to the players that fufilled those certain conditions.

I also agree with what stark says regarding the tickets. Does the seller know what they do?

Nocmen · Post Post #124 (isolation #15) » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:24 pm

Unvote

. It's a bit past random stage and voting Bamboomancer mostly for mentioning football in this topic isn't a viable reason to keep it on him anymore.

I still want to hear from Thyroid on whether he knows waht the tickets do.

Nocmen · Post Post #127 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:40 am

mneme wrote:
unvote
vote: Nocmen
(for witch hunting and role fishing, not to mention perpetuating the myth of the random stage).

No, not giving explanations is not
per se
scummy.

Explain where I was witch hunting and role fishing.

Nocmen · Post Post #149 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:23 pm

meep, meep meep meep meep. meep: meep, meep, meep meep; meep meep meep meep meep meep?

meep meep.

meep meep meep meep, meep meep meep, meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #162 (isolation #18) » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:48 am

mneme wrote:
Nocmen wrote:
mneme wrote:
unvote
vote: Nocmen
(for witch hunting and role fishing, not to mention perpetuating the myth of the random stage).

No, not giving explanations is not
per se
scummy.
Explain where I was witch hunting and role fishing.
As above, strenuously requesting explanations for votes that were not initially accompanied by explainations.

Votes without explainations can be:
[li]
[*] Lazy random votes.

[*] non-random votes where the voter doesn't feel a need to explain.

[*] Bandwagon votes.

[*] Scum votes (really, those are just bandwagon votes, mostly, or role-motivated votes)

[*] Role-motivated votes
[/li]

While you want to look at people's pattern of behavior, pushing too hard for explanations of votes clarifies the first four explainations vs the 5th one, and therefore verges on fishing.

Moreover, this is a game of feint, bluff, and direct attack, not one of "debate team 101". Throwing up bandwagons on people just because they refuse to explain votes regardless of whether it's reasonable that the votes -would- be explainable is witch hunting. More particularly, I don't think several of your attacks were reasonable and the pattern is troubling.

I don't think the vote was random, so that doesn't deal with the first case. In day 1, I don't see really how it would be role motivated, unless it was a lyncher or something, which I'm not sure MoS would have in a game like this, but that might just be because I personally feel that it is an imbalanced role to use. That pretty much leads to bandwagon votes, or scum votes, as I also don't agree with people not feeling like explaining, unless it is stupidly obvious (it wasn't though this time). Twomz even just showed how he raised suspicion towards himself when he voted without reasoning.

Sir Tornado wrote:
FaerieLord wrote:@SirT. You were trying to excuse the meeps. While I still it is stupid reasoning, I think that is what BM is trying to get to
I was not trying to "excuse" meeps. I was trying to speculate on why he is meeping.

Meeping isn't good for your health you know.

Nocmen · Post Post #167 (isolation #19) » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:26 am

meep meep meep meep meep meep meep, meep meep meep.

meep.

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meep meep meep meep meep ?meep meep meep , meep meep meep .

Nocmen · Post Post #180 (isolation #20) » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:29 pm

I agree with the

Vote: Thyroid

. This question dodging and such an use for tickets just seems insane.

Nocmen · Post Post #190 (isolation #21) » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:22 pm

Battle Mage wrote:
Sir Tornado wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Sir Tornado wrote:
FaerieLord wrote:@SirT. You were trying to excuse the meeps. While I still it is stupid reasoning, I think that is what BM is trying to get to
I was not trying to "excuse" meeps. I was trying to speculate on why he is meeping.
FaerieLord is right. Whether intentional or not, you're comment did come across as an attempt to give Nocmen a get-out-of-jail-free card. Of course, this only really matters if Nocmen were to be scum, but i felt it should be noted in case of that eventuality.

BM
How do you mean by "get out of jail free" card? Does that imply Nocmen's meeping is scummy? If so, how?
of course it is scummy, because usually, only scum fake a PR. Currently Nocmen is allowed to lurk in plain sight, and contribute less, something which i am fairly suspicious of.

What do you mean by that?

Nocmen · Post Post #213 (isolation #22) » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:50 am

UltimaAvalon wrote:
Unvote: Vote stark

The guy just went on about how he cannot claim anymore than he has. You acknowledged it and still asked questions. Either buy a ticket or don't. According to him, he's done all he can. Asking the same questions won't yield new results.

And quit saying comrades.

I don't think that stark's questions would nessecarily be a claim, as he wouldn't still be saying the full ability, but hes asking good questions in order to try to see if its harmful or beneficial to us.

Nocmen · Post Post #237 (isolation #23) » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:53 am

foolinc wrote:
mneme wrote:Foolinc's posts have indicated that he fears the tickets, and ssf pointed out that he bought one.

unvote
vote: foolinc
Mind telling me why you believe that the tickets must be pro-town?

So, you bought one, and you aren't sure if they will benefit the town, which means that you took it even if it meant it could hurt your side.

Unvote

(If any),

Vote: foolinc

Nocmen · Post Post #241 (isolation #24) » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:37 am

Wow I feel stupid. Thats what happens when I read something and don't bother checking how much it is true. I thought ssf said that fool bought one.

Unvote

.

Nocmen · Post Post #248 (isolation #25) » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:24 pm

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Nocmen · Post Post #252 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:12 am

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Nocmen · Post Post #261 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:52 am

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Nocmen · Post Post #264 (isolation #28) » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:41 am

Why would timmy fall down the well again? He must be scum!

but seriously, this game needs to get back up to speed. I sort of see where the wagons on both thyroid and foolinc are coming from.

Nocmen · Post Post #267 (isolation #29) » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:37 am

schismatized wrote:I say we wagon everyone with the title "cliqued on"

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meep
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Nocmen · Post Post #272 (isolation #30) » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:51 pm

You've never heard him been called ZONEFACE before? BM is one of the few that calls him that quite a lot.

Nocmen · Post Post #276 (isolation #31) » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:36 am

meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #279 (isolation #32) » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:47 am

Twomz wrote:
Shanba wrote:
Nocmen wrote:meep meep.
Agreed
Thirded.

meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #284 (isolation #33) » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:31 pm

curiouskarmadog wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:curoiuskarmadog has agreed to replace Mole. Please welcome him to the game! He said he'll start catching up soon.
it is going to take me a couple days to get caught up....

Feel free to do that, and welcome to the game.

Also, BM, maybe you weren't the person calling him Zoneface, but I know a few others on this site have referred to him as that before.

Nocmen · Post Post #287 (isolation #34) » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:24 pm

Battle Mage wrote:
Nocmen wrote:You've never heard him been called ZONEFACE before? BM is one of the few that calls him that quite a lot.
i draw your attention to this quote again Nocmen. Why did you say this if you knew it was not true?

Well, to be honest, I thought you were one of the people who call him that, because I knew many people did here, and you pointed it out with saying that the F was even in there.

Nocmen · Post Post #332 (isolation #35) » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:33 am

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Nocmen · Post Post #342 (isolation #36) » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:47 pm

Nocmen wrote:meep meep meep meep. meep meep meep meep.

meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #348 (isolation #37) » Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:18 am

UltimaAvalon wrote:Alls I've really got to say about the whole Thyroid thing is, if you dont trust him, how bout you just don't buy a ticket? Voting him because you don't trust him is dumb, because really, how many people here
do
you trust?

Also, I have no clue why there is a wagon on foolinc, probably because everyone I have seen vote for him has said very little besides "Vote: Foolinc", "Hey, lets lynch Foolinc", "Foolinc Wagon plzkthx?", etc

meep meep meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #366 (isolation #38) » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:06 pm

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Nocmen · Post Post #370 (isolation #39) » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:31 pm

MEEP!

Nocmen · Post Post #373 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:31 am

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #402 (isolation #41) » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:29 am

First of all, I love you Twomz.

I don't like how schiz's posts around #370...

Also, I really think it would just be fine if we did see until tomorrow before going after the ticket seller.

No Lynch=No. I only see it when its near LyLo as good.

Nocmen · Post Post #405 (isolation #42) » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:08 pm

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #409 (isolation #43) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:27 am

I think that trying to play based off the roles that may or may not have been used is the wrong idea.

Foolinc's behavior is starting to show off as scummy for me, or at the very least is making claims without basis to do so.

Later today or tomorrow I want to do a closer examination on three people: foolinc and ZONEACE, for having wagons on them, and Bamboomancer, who's vote I still see slightly unsettling.

Nocmen · Post Post #425 (isolation #44) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:40 am

meep meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #427 (isolation #45) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:39 am

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #437 (isolation #46) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:26 pm

I think Belgarion is pretty much trying to vote fish onto a bandwagon...still planning on doing my reread, ive been swamped with work that hasn't allowed me to read over stuff, maybe I'll get to it tomoror during classes.

Nocmen · Post Post #448 (isolation #47) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:10 am

meep meep meep.

meep, meep meep meep meep meep. meep meep meep meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #453 (isolation #48) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:16 am

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #457 (isolation #49) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:03 pm

Belgarion wrote:
Nocmen wrote:I think Belgarion is pretty much trying to vote fish onto a bandwagon...still planning on doing my reread, ive been swamped with work that hasn't allowed me to read over stuff, maybe I'll get to it tomoror during classes.
Speaking of bandwagons, which one are you blindly following now and for what reason?

B-

If you noticed, I don't have a vote out, as my thoughts have pretty much been that I disliked the reasons for the other bandwagons, but I could have been naive and just not noticed why they were being voted for.

Nocmen · Post Post #460 (isolation #50) » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:35 am

meep meep meep. meep meep meep meep meep meep meep. meep meep meep meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #463 (isolation #51) » Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:49 pm

meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #465 (isolation #52) » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:49 pm

I'm still not buying the whole tickets thing. Seems like it would just be running into a trap.

Also...I still need to do my reread I said I would do. Maybe late tomorrow night, stupid working all day during saturday. But it's a 4 day weekend for me, so I will be able to do it sometime during this period.

Nocmen · Post Post #472 (isolation #53) » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:54 am

Whoa...is someone getting a bit trigger happy on voting for someone just because they bought a ticket?

BTW...I like posts 22, 33, 40, 96, 103, 115, and a few more, but I'll end the listing there.

Nocmen · Post Post #475 (isolation #54) » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:29 pm

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #477 (isolation #55) » Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:31 pm

Damnit, I had a long post and then it got erased by me accidentally closing the tab.

It was a mini Player by Player, pretty much heres waht I had to say:

Foolinc seems to be setting up reasoning for his votes in a day or two, I want to see how it plays out.

I think I know waht ZONEACE is doing regarding thyroid.

Bamboomancer...hasn't posted in almost 3 weeks, I don't like the way hes acting. I'm not going to vote for him though until he answers why he thinks I was witch hunting.

Belgarion: I don't like his vote for foolinc, seems like he was just trying to fit in with the majority. Calls CKD out for voting for the sake of posting, when I think his votes are just the same. Asks for someone to give more game analysis, when he hadn't himself. Also makes up fake info about both me and CKD, saying false information about our votes.

Vote: Belgarion

for being hypocritical and trying to fit in while doing the same things he calls people out for.

Nocmen · Post Post #478 (isolation #56) » Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:31 pm

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #483 (isolation #57) » Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:03 am

ZONEACE wrote:
Nocmen wrote: I think I know waht ZONEACE is doing regarding thyroid.

and that would be what?

I think that it will hurt the town, to the point now where I actually regret saying what I said.

Also...Kaleideoscope, nice vote there. [/sarcasm]

Nocmen · Post Post #485 (isolation #58) » Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:19 am

meep meep meep.

meep, meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #489 (isolation #59) » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:12 am

Schiz's point C pretty much is my reasoning to why I am against the tickets somewhat a well.

But I also don't like how schiz only went after this ticket buyer now.

Nocmen · Post Post #502 (isolation #60) » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:41 am

FL, I never said I was alright with Kaliedoscope's vote.

And why the hell would a doc be investigating someone?

Nocmen · Post Post #507 (isolation #61) » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:23 pm

Mastermind of Sin wrote:Bamboomancer has not picked up his prods, so I will replace him.

Dang, I really wanted him to answer my questions.

Nocmen · Post Post #509 (isolation #62) » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:29 pm

meep meep meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #514 (isolation #63) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:53 am

Belgarion wrote:
Nocmen wrote:
Belgarion: I don't like his vote for foolinc, seems like he was just trying to fit in with the majority. Calls CKD out for voting for the sake of posting, when I think his votes are just the same. Asks for someone to give more game analysis, when he hadn't himself. Also makes up fake info about both me and CKD, saying false information about our votes.

Vote: Belgarion
for being hypocritical and trying to fit in while doing the same things he calls people out for.
I think maybe you have spent too much time meeping and not enough time actually reading the thread. While researching my posts, did you actually read them, or do you just want to take them out of context to back up your lacking vote?

please post where I made up anything false about CKD? Please post where I called CKD out on anything. Please apologize for your misreading of posts (unless you really want to keep pushing it somemore). I will take it in the following forms "I am sorry for the misread. unvote", "oops, I guess you are right I did not really read the whole post, my bad. unvote", "I bow to the supreme being that is Belgarion. unvote", or maybe for you "Well, meep, I am a meeping meep, unvote"

B-

I will not apologize, but I am mistaken. In your post that quoted CKD, I thought that what you said in your reponse was about his post, even though I see now that it was about foolinc. You still seem hypocritical to me, and the vote stays. I also don't kiss ass.

Nocmen · Post Post #521 (isolation #64) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:01 pm

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #523 (isolation #65) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:10 pm

In response to whether Twomz is coming off defensive:
I would usually question a gut vote, but really there are so many of them this game I'm beginning to feel it would mean nothing on its own. Though this is a lot for one vote, I would need to look into it more.

Nocmen · Post Post #552 (isolation #66) » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:36 pm

Damn, that's a lot of people saying my names. I stand by with who I still think was scum before.

Nocmen · Post Post #554 (isolation #67) » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:39 pm

No need to say my name for a while, unless I really have to say something. stark's reread seemed to not really pique my interests (I bet i used that word wrong). That, or I'm being stubborn again.

Nocmen · Post Post #557 (isolation #68) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:40 am

Who said that my role hasn't changed somewhat?

Nocmen · Post Post #561 (isolation #69) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:49 pm

I have some questions for schis, but I don't have the time to ask tonight.

Nocmen · Post Post #563 (isolation #70) » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:22 am

And why exactly would you be voting for me, JDodge?

Nocmen · Post Post #566 (isolation #71) » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:33 pm

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #568 (isolation #72) » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:10 pm

This isn't very unlike JDodge, so I really can't say we are getting some vibes off of it.

Also, questions for schis:

1. Why did you say this:

schismatized wrote:
Thyroidectomy wrote:
You know, thats the real townie thing to do.

Why?

Let me start by asking: do you believe it's always a townie thing to explain your votes? Do you believe scum are more likely to not explain their votes than townies are?
yes to both.

and then:

schismatized wrote:DIE SCUM

vote: jdodge

schismatized wrote:
vote CKD

Hypocrit much?

2. Why is the meeping "annoying"?

3.

schismatized wrote:in light of new evidence do we kill shanny, zoneface, or roid?

schismatized wrote:
unvote dodgy dave

how many is that on zone?

These just scream opportune scum to me. Any chances of changing my mind?
4.

schismatized wrote:The two highest players on my scumdar atm are Nocmen and Thyroid. I think their roles pose the biggest threat to the town.

I understand thyroid, but how am I a threat?

Nocmen · Post Post #577 (isolation #73) » Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:03 am

There's a wagon against me?

Nocmen · Post Post #582 (isolation #74) » Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:19 pm

I can not talk about what parts of my role I can and can not talk about. Now, tell me, what exactly have I said about my role that was not almost all a restating of what others said? I said some stuff that others said, and whatever I felt like saying about what parts of it I could talk about. Tell me, why would I want to reveal all about my role right away? It's stupid play to just talk about my role freely. Also, I'm done before I go talking abotu the part of my role I can't talk about.

Nocmen · Post Post #595 (isolation #75) » Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:47 pm

I would also like a vote count.

Nocmen · Post Post #602 (isolation #76) » Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:29 am

FaerieLord wrote:
Unvote, Vote:Nemcon

There, all happier now.

@Thyro. Shut up.

Feel like explaining your vote? You said you wanted to know why I talked about my role as I did, I explained, and you vote...

Nocmen · Post Post #604 (isolation #77) » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:59 pm

meep meep, meep meep meep meep meep meep?

Nocmen · Post Post #612 (isolation #78) » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:08 pm

As I wanted to say, FL, I am not a false claimer, so whereever you got that notion from, is wrong.

Nocmen · Post Post #615 (isolation #79) » Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:22 pm

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Nocmen · Post Post #625 (isolation #80) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:29 am

You may not have JDodge, but Twomz did.

Nocmen · Post Post #656 (isolation #81) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:34 pm

So, thats a decently large wagon on schis you got going there.

Name Bank. Name++, Post Bank--. The banks are good, I am not lying, FL is trying way too hard to lynch me.

Nocmen · Post Post #672 (isolation #82) » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:27 am

Yes, banks work like that, and the bigger the bank gets now, the easier everything becomes when there are less players left.

Oman, think jediknight means me.

Nocmen · Post Post #675 (isolation #83) » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:21 am

How do i even know what I am talking about?

Nocmen · Post Post #684 (isolation #84) » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:43 am

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #686 (isolation #85) » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:49 am

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #688 (isolation #86) » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:32 am

Not much really I wanted to say, but because of the fact we are talking about who made the roles, remembr that MoS may have made some roles too.

JDodge, it's an every-other-day-thing.

Nocmen · Post Post #698 (isolation #87) » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:25 am

ZONEACE wrote:Wait, when did I defend schis? I honestly don't remember doing that, and honestly it seems really out of character for me (i mean real character not game character)

I would like to see where you saw this as well.

Nocmen · Post Post #704 (isolation #88) » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:04 pm

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #708 (isolation #89) » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:12 am

Zone - The whole thing you said regarding the silent speaker, is right on in my opinion. He is going and seems to be quite ignorant of some situations, and now is trying to like make a mountain out of a molehill. It's something that looks like someone just was a dumbass honestly, and now you're trying to say stuff that is extremely unfeasible. If I did not feel that Belgarion is a better lynch right now, I could easily see where he could be scum, but I need to read more about him before making that assessment fully.

Nocmen · Post Post #713 (isolation #90) » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:35 am

I agree that he is vote hopping, and it sort of seems he is trying to go under the radar. I called him out before, but his amount and style of votes seems that he is just trying to be oportunistic scum. almost everyone who has had a wagon had been voted by him, and surprise surprise he just jumped on the big wagon of the day.

Unvote, Vote: KalieDoscope

Nocmen · Post Post #715 (isolation #91) » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:46 am

yea, in case that didn't count...

Unvote, Vote: Kaliedoscope

Nocmen · Post Post #720 (isolation #92) » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:13 am

Oman wrote:I personally think Schism should be smarter than this when it comes to Kscope. Scope is pretty consistant with his wagoning, and I don't think any of his wagons were completely out of line.

But is it not coincidence that he has been on every single wagon in the game?

Nocmen · Post Post #726 (isolation #93) » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:58 pm

Nocmen · Post Post #728 (isolation #94) » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:08 pm

Oman's sudden saying of that still doesn't make me feel safe. As I said before, is it not a problem, or coincidence that Kaliedoscope has been on every single major wagon in this game? Some vote hopping is ok, but when we go about here and try to lynch every person that gets a few votes on them, how the hell do you feel so strongly about every wagon?

Oman's take on this issue is intriguing though, because I did interpret it just like schis did. That does seem opportune for scum. However, what I see as more opportune for cum is what Kaliedocope is doing, which is just going from wagon to wagon until he gets one to finally lynch.

Nocmen · Post Post #732 (isolation #95) » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:32 pm

Nocmen · Post Post #737 (isolation #96) » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:27 am

As I was trying to say last night, in regards to the silent speaker's post 731, I feel there is no use going and guiding the doc when we are not sure ourselves even what power roles there are. If you want the doc to go and protect the cop, it would be bad enough for that, because if the doc was protecting the cop knowingly, the cop would have given himself up to be the cop.

Nocmen · Post Post #740 (isolation #97) » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:51 am

Wow, what happened to the activity in this game?

Nocmen · Post Post #765 (isolation #98) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:43 am

oh the horror of this game. Thyroid is getting somewhat awkward in his "Defense", but the way ssf is going after thim seems as if something is off to me.

I'm not sure if I've said this before or not, but if all else fails, remember the horror.

Nocmen · Post Post #768 (isolation #99) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:55 pm

Belgarion wrote:
Mod: I was not aware that Oman is voting me?

Noc, what is off about SSf attack on Thyro?

It seems that ssf had a good attack at first, but after that, from 757 on, just seems he is desparate to not be proved wrong.

Nocmen · Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:24 pm

I'm here. I'm starting to think JDodge has a post restriction that makes him have to say how much he wants to lynch me, or hes pretending it trying to mock me, or hes just being normal JDodge.

I also need to look over the past few days...work has been sucking too much of my time this week.

Nocmen · Post Post #814 (isolation #101) » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:40 am

I noticed that as well. Very odd I suppose. Hopeuflly I'll be able to get up a detailed post later tonight.

Nocmen · Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:28 am

JDodge wrote:
Twomz wrote:Very close to voting schism just to get the day over with . Is there a deadline pending?
twomz is scum with nocmen, mneme and jedi. y/y

Wrong, at least about me.

Nocmen · Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:31 pm

hmm...interesting.

Nocmen · Post Post #861 (isolation #104) » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:24 am

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:03 am

Zoneface's vote seems ...i dont know. Anyways, I still don't stand by the shisz lynch, as I can see where the evidence is coming from, but I feel that almost anyone has done that as a town at one point in their mafia games. I am suspect of the lack of defense, and I also don't like the votes on the wagon.

Finally, should anything happen overnight,

Horror

leads to murderer.

Nocmen · Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:18 am

Hmm...so we got a king, and mneme, I really can't say what it meant, but my death is very

horrible

.

Nocmen · Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:52 am

Sir Tornado wrote:Nocmen, the investigation result?

What makes you assume I actually had investigative powers?

Nocmen · Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:59 am

meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:01 am

The problem with that is that the role was obviously changed somewhat from its original form, as my role isn't like that.

Nocmen · Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:29 am

This is very strange, and JDodge is being his normal self, I'm beginning to wonder if he maybe has a PR.

The shirts seem weird, but I can't tell if they are pro or anti town.

And I'm willing to cooperate with my role, I'm just not sure what you want to know.

Nocmen · Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:01 pm

Nocmen · Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:26 pm

I agree with TSS does not really look like a kill, but I wouldn't be surprised to see MoS purposely wording stuff in order to induce confusion. One night isn't enough IMO, and it would mean just pointless mod outguessing.

Nocmen · Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:35 pm

Nocmen · Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:45 pm

meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep. meep?

Nocmen · Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:51 pm

Well...To me, it looked like Twomz was pro-town because of the way he went and was trying to make the best out of my situation regarding my role. Either way, this seemed as a threat to scum, regardless of what faction I was.

TSS, his neutrality seems like he would be a target for someone testing out their night ability.

Schis, I saw him really as just playing sides, being over suspectful in order to have outs for his hunches towards other people. However, while that is scummy in itself, that was not enough for me to vote him myself.

Nocmen · Post Post #926 (isolation #116) » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:53 am

Shanba wrote:Thankees!

Thesilentspeaker. I want your side of the story now.

huh? Isn't he dead/gone?

And two votes on me with no reason whatsoever. Thanks guys.

Nocmen · Post Post #953 (isolation #117) » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:40 pm

Kison wrote:Hi,

Nocmen, why did you contradict yourself?

Why did Shanba throw TSS into a black hole?

Oh great I can't vote, can I?!

I always contradict myself. Show me where I did this time, if you will.

Nocmen · Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:34 am

Dude, read much?

Nocmen · Post Post #967 (isolation #119) » Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:25 pm

meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #969 (isolation #120) » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:27 pm

meep, meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #971 (isolation #121) » Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:31 pm

meep, meep meep meep meep. meep meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #974 (isolation #122) » Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:43 pm

meep. meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep. meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:30 am

meep meep meep. meep.

Nocmen · Post Post #986 (isolation #124) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:39 am

Seriously, I don't get why all the hatred is on me for meeping. Sure I know a few reasons where it was a problem, but I'm doing everything just fine, thank you very much.

Looking back, as I may be the only one noticing it, I don't like Kaliedoscope's behavior at all. Seems like too much following.

Nocmen · Post Post #989 (isolation #125) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:22 am

Shanba, I guarantee you that the pattern still holds, very much so.

Nocmen · Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:26 am

Oman wrote:
Nocmen wrote:
Looking back, as I may be the only one noticing it, I don't like Kaliedoscope's behavior at all. Seems like too much following.
I think scism tried to push the lynch onto Kscope before he was lynched.

I'd say we put Nocmen on the list, if only for targeting to same person the mafia did yesterday (plan between them?)

Does that count as content?

But the way schism was acting, it looked more to me as if he was trying to separate the two once he had screwed himself over.

Nocmen · Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:57 am

I think tis more like a sense of common sense.

Nocmen · Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:41 pm

It means quoted for truth, and now I will make sure no to quote or cue-eff-tee anything Oman says. Though post 793 seems like a good setup, so at the very least he thought this "claim" out. Same with post 777, Oman asking for the cue-eff-tee. That and a later QFT though, are all I found regarding this "ability".

Nocmen · Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:18 pm

Stark looks very town-like to me so far.

Nocmen · Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:35 am

Shanba wrote:
Nocmen wrote:Stark looks very town-like to me so far.
Because he's just been swayed by me not to attack you?

:\

No, because he is acutally using logic in his posts. Though there are a few others that are doing so, you included, same with jediknight, and probably ZONEFACE underneath his nonsense.

Nocmen · Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:03 am

At least some people are constant in their roles.

Nocmen · Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:40 am

Hmm...That was kind of unexpected.

Nocmen · Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:11 pm

Wait...I wasn't dead? What the hell.

Anyways...I don't know what to say. Obviously I was "killed" twice, once by JDodge, who was lynched, and SirTornado had the other.

Well, I'll be rereading this in depth, I was sort of skimmming over yesterday, not knowing if I would come back alive.

Nocmen · Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:37 am

Well, a second rebirth hints to me that the role isn't a one shot, but we must be wary about if more than one person has the ability.

That, and I think this second life for me is a bit unstable.

Nocmen · Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:22 am

If I am in one, I have not been told so, so I will assume I remain as town until told otherwise. But I'm not sure how long I will stay alive, I have reason to belieive this rebirth is only for a day or so.

Nocmen · Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:18 am

Belgarion wrote:also post for shits and giggles, mostly for shits.

Is someone trying to avoid prod? Why are you lurking like this?

Nocmen · Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:51 am

Oh yes, that was my bad, I totally forgot that, thats what happens when I just skim and don't really recall anything else.

Nocmen · Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:24 pm

curiouskarmadog wrote:
Nocmen wrote:Oh yes, that was my bad, I totally forgot that, thats what happens when I just skim and don't really recall anything else.
how did you forget? So you wanted to cast blame while just skimming?

Asking a question is casting blame? I have an answer now that disproves the idea I got from that post.

As for my name, you'll have to say it eventually, but I have a few posts saved up from my time in the grave.

Nocmen · Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:57 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:
Nocmen wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
Nocmen wrote:Oh yes, that was my bad, I totally forgot that, thats what happens when I just skim and don't really recall anything else.
how did you forget? So you wanted to cast blame while just skimming?
Asking a question is casting blame? I have an answer now that disproves the idea I got from that post.

As for my name, you'll have to say it eventually, but I have a few posts saved up from my time in the grave.
so you have to start Meeping, but you dont know when? Jesus, this sounds like an alignment change to me....

also, want to hear from Thyro about his shirt...

No, my name was said while I was dead, was it not? As far as I know those all count towards my non-meep posts.

Nocmen · Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:28 pm

As far as I know, nothing about my role has changed besides the fact I am slightly unstable. I don't need to meep because each time my name is used, that gets more posts. I have a lot of posts to use from being dead yesterday and my name. I think I still give out horrors upon death.

Nocmen · Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:33 pm

meep meep meep meep.

Nocmen · Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:34 pm

I never really needed to meep as much as I did during day 2. Each time my name is said, thats one more regular use I have out of it. I kept meeping on purpose in order to increase my bank as much as possible. My current count has me at 22 posts left, and thats being very lenient, so I think I have more than that.

Nocmen · Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:40 am

Oman is lurking. Majorly. Though could it be a PR that prevents him from posting today?

I'm curious about what the shirts do though. But if two of us targetted came to life, I'm wondering if it really was that that caused the rebirth, or something else.

I'm not sure right now if we should test that theory on Thyroid, I'm still impartial to whether he is scum or town.

Nocmen · Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:36 pm

Sir Tornado wrote:
Nocmen wrote:Oman is lurking. Majorly. Though could it be a PR that prevents him from posting today?
What makes you say that?

Well it has to be one or the other. Either Oman has something that doesn't allow him to post, but it was pointed out that he did post today. If that is the case, then he has to be lurking, he can't be away from the site because his other posts are popping up all over the place.

Nocmen · Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:10 am

Shanba wrote:I find it quite funny that twice dead Nocmen is sitting here speaking to us.

Nocmen/Twomz - did you keep your powers after resurrection? My guess is a zombie cult would strip you of your powers. I'd like to remind Nocmen to answer this truthfully, as I could quite easily test this tonight with a fake kill.

Heya Oman - aren't you supposed to have a double vote? I avoided executing you for that reason. It's now two days later - I'd really like a demonstration.

I was not told anything regarding any powers having been lost. All I was told was that I was not as stable as I used to be, whatever that means. Because I have not been told otherwise, I am assuming I still have the same role that I did before my death.

Nocmen · Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:40 am

Hmm...vote to increase pressure?

Vote: Oman

Nocmen · Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:21 pm

armlx wrote:I threw together a basic outline of what I saw, if you care to read it about a page back.

I care to see it as well, but I can not find it. Post numbers?

Nocmen · Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:04 am

How many votes are on Oman? I haven;t seen a vote ccount in a while... and I want to pressure him, but I don't want to accidentally hammer yet.

Nocmen · Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:20 am

Is either the mod or the backup mod alive?

Nocmen · Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:04 am

Unvote

Nocmen · Thu May 01, 2008 7:47 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:Nocmen, did you ever claim what your power did?..do we know..I thought that we did, but cant find that information.

Fonz, why the vote on armix....

and your thoughts, is it possible for the same alignment to have two multi-voters?

kscope, reason for the vote?

Well, being that I'm pretty much screwed right now and I'm unsure of my conidition once this day is over, jediknight (IIRC) went and revealed that I had something much like the role he created. Which I do have, it is a night ability that can either be a Cop or be a Vig. Once per night. Right now I've tryed to investigate Kaliedoscope on Night 1, but I did not get any result. I got an innocent on Belgarion Night 2.

Nocmen · Sun May 04, 2008 9:17 am

armlx wrote:Belg being innocent makes an interesting scenario. I think no one should QFT Fonz any more unless we would lose under the assumption he was town and we didn't give him multiple votes. With that restriction I'm not 100% sure that Fonz is town.

That doesn't really mean much. It was one result, with the way my character is flavored as a coward or something I wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't sane. That's why I'm trying to get more results. Though I may think about firing off a shot at someone tonight, as I'm not sure if I will make it through the night.

Nocmen · Sun May 04, 2008 9:18 am

EBWOP: I didn't realize how much Flameaxe hasn't posted in this game. Last one was March 24th, and I'm not sure if the mod(s) is looking for replacements or not.

Nocmen · Tue May 06, 2008 11:28 am

I keep having to remember that Belgarion does the same as CKD because they are the same person.

Goddamnit Nocmen, you are stupid.

Nocmen · Sun May 11, 2008 11:14 pm

Nocmen · Thu May 15, 2008 11:16 pm

I'm pretty good at the moment, and think it only works once per post. But it's been said so many times my count still has me at 30 or so.

Nocmen · Sat May 17, 2008 5:23 am

I defintely need a reread of this...I'm getting lost.

From what I see, for now I am willing to accept that SirTornado isn't scum and was honest about his night actions.

Unsure of Thyroid, not sure what he is doing wiht the ticket situation still.

Nocmen · Mon May 19, 2008 3:10 pm

Hmm...I'm not sure what to say with Thyroid's/Simenon's claim...

Now why the hell would you use that fourth ability though? Why would you claim that it exists?

Nocmen · Tue May 20, 2008 6:17 am

I sort of remember that too ckd...I'll try to look harder if I get a chance.

I think TSS is trying to look too hard into things.

Unvote (if any), Vote: The silent speaker

Nocmen · Tue May 20, 2008 11:08 pm

the silent speaker wrote:Speaking of liars who hurt the town:
armlx, post 1825 wrote:I was the L-1 vote on Jdodge. I'm just not on the vote count b/c of an MoS error, but if you count there's only 9 names and I voted him right before the stark hammer.
This is a lie, which is what my noting the vote count was intended to prove.

Nocmen, PBuG, give me something to work with.

The votes still hot him lynched regardless, and really I dont' give a shit about voting order.

Nocmen · Tue May 20, 2008 11:09 pm

EBWOP: I also fail to see how the order of the votes and a vote that may or may not have been there affected the town negatively.

Nocmen · Wed May 21, 2008 3:08 pm

Hmm...I'm not so sure on the claim of ressurection, though it does explain how it was able to happen twice now.

Unvote

.

Though I do want more details on the role if possible.

Nocmen · Thu May 22, 2008 7:46 am

If TSS really did res us, I don't think that would explain the shirts at all. Though I find it bad that jedi is saying who he will target with his shirts...makes it possible for the mafia to play things to harm him.

Nocmen · Thu May 22, 2008 3:43 pm

Maybe the shirt is the reason why I am not certain about my stabilitiy?

Nocmen · Fri May 23, 2008 4:21 pm

I did not get any PM about a shirt. I got a PM regarding my own roles results from Night 2, and then nothing until Night 3 when I was told I was resed.

I'm willing to sacrifice myself for the town's answers. As I have said many times, I don't think I will live through the night anyways, so I'll give more information. The only thing is that this will cost a lynch.

If you guys want to do this gambit proposed by Zoneace and ckd.

Unvote, Vote: Nocmen

Nocmen · Fri May 23, 2008 6:01 pm

Kison wrote:Nocmen, if you think you won't live through the night, then why would you want to throw away the Town's controllable kill device(lynch)?

I feel that we may need to sacrifice part of our attack on the scum in order to garner more information from a controlled setting. With a lynch we have a better guess of what happened rather than me dying overnight in order to prove what roles are out there and what they do.

And armlx, I doubt that I really am a cop/vig.... I have the feeling that my investigations are all innocent and killing does nothing.

Nocmen · Sat May 24, 2008 2:08 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:whoa whoa whoa, Noc get your vote off yourself. I dont think this is the way to go (yet)....

also, here is an interesting note, if Thyro/Sim did go off last night and blocked all mafia night actions, I find it funny that the same night Shanba decided NOT to fake a death like he has done both previous nights.

thoughts?

As I said before, sacrificing a lynch in order to prove a few roles is something I am willing to do. I will keep my vote on myself until now, I see this whole action as a very good play to get the most info for the town.

I didn't notice that either until you pointed it out...hmm...

Nocmen · Sat May 24, 2008 3:02 pm

Simenon wrote:Do we have any necessary town actions tonight? We can test all the role-based lynches tonight with my "block all town" ability.

Right now I'm reading through all the claims.

I see no benefit that can come from blocking only town actions. No.

Nocmen · Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:45 am

But what about the fact that Shanba or TSS could both be town? Are you saying for Shanba to get lynched today, and then having TSS revive him again?

What about all the other players in this game that have gone under the radar?

Nocmen · Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:23 am

Right now we are at a point where it is possible that TSS actually has ressurected people. It could also be a shirt, but from my own personal information, of how I have been ressurected, if I am a part of a cult, I don't know. What is keeping me from lynching Shanba, I don't see how his actions would play in if he was really scum. And now of course supicion falls on me because I've had connections with both of these people.

Nocmen · Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:27 am

Yea, apparently we have died when the shirts were given. But I beleive that the shirts did not cause my death, as the post restrictions were given to Sir Tornado, who copied Shanba's ability onto me, and JDodge, who was scum actually killing me. I was not told anything about a shirt in my PMs, the only thing I got when I died was saying my investigation turned up innocent.

Nocmen · Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:39 am

Well, the night scenes have said shirts and stuff...but hmm, that really could be it. Maybe it was MoS purposly giving scum a false claim to use?

Nocmen · Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:40 am

Yes I did get a result.

Nocmen · Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:08 am

No, as I said before, Night 1 I investigated Kaliedoscope and did not get any result. Night 2 I got an innocent on Belgarion.

Nocmen · Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:13 pm

I would thnik that MoS thought about stuff like this occuring. If people could be revived, he would give them information that could be used when they dyed and then were subsequently revived. Remember how the early posts refer to possible revivals.

Nocmen · Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:13 pm

Now that Shanba has been revealed as "Psychotic Player List"...I feel I must claim some details about the role I made.

I designed Nightson's role, the Psychotic Pair of Pants. His ability had him either kill his target, or in a chance, he would convert his target into a cult member by forcing them to wear the pants and obey him. The person he targetted eah night would put on the pants. If his target was killed from other means that night, he would die as well. I first thought that Shanba's role was a bit ironic compared to the role I made, thinking it could be him as a cultist...but as it was a fake death, I played it off as mere coincidence. That as well as the fact that he was the one who went and executed Nightson, who would have been the leader of that cult. I'm not sure what to say of it now, but as that seems to really be his role, I must get that out.

Nocmen · Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:59 am

I investigated Simenon last night, as I wanted to know more about him and the roles he had. Got nothing suspicious though.

And I am guessing that Nightson had the ability because that is what I named it...and the role was originally designed as a cultist/sk.

Nocmen · Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:04 pm

Kison wrote:
Nocmen wrote:t;]If I am in one, I have not been told so, so I will assume I remain as town until told otherwise. But I'm not sure how long I will stay alive, I have reason to belieive this rebirth is only for a day or so.
I missed this before. Is this still the case, Nocmen?
.

Yes, as far as I have been told. The only thing I was told overnight was the result of my investigation.

Nocmen · Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:10 am

Why are we all of a sudden auto-confirming the people who have innocent investigations? I have said more than once that I aam not certain that my ability is a sane investigation, part of me really beleives that it is naive.

Nocmen · Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:11 am

Sir T, the thing you mentioned about Twomz seems very strange, but not as much so with the second point, because I did not receive any result either that first night. Maybe any effects such as RBing to me happen to be carried over when it was copied? I have gotten a result every other night that I was alive. If you would like me to prove so, target me again tonight.

Nocmen · Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:48 pm

I beleive I have said most of this before....but might as well do it again.

I have reason to think that my actual power as a cop/vig is not capable of working. My role flavor as being someone afraid of stuff and trying to hide makes me think that all vig attempts will fail, and I am a naive cop. Right now, I have not tried my vig powers, but all of my cop results have come up as innocent.

I'm still not sure if I want to actually try the vig'ing, or just keep using cop claims. The other reason I have stuck with cop claims is that going with one or the other makes it much easier to figure out if my abilities actualyl work or not...its easier to get 2 innocent results and 2 vigs that happen to fail just by coincidence over 3-4+ innocent results. Hell, the only thing I think keeping me alive still is the fact that the scum learned from JDodge they pretty much sacrifice themselves to kill me.

Nocmen · Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:55 pm

Also...I would think that Sir T is somewhat innocent, at least to the point where he is definitely not part of Mafia. The fact that he copied Shanba's ability onto me Night 2 is reason enough to seem that he was not with JDodge, as it would be pointless to do something to me the night I was killed. And someone may say this is WIFOM, because they could purposely set it up so that it looked like Sir T would be cleared by this. But how would they know that the town would have any idea of anything being copied onto me? For example, if there was an investigation or RB on me...the town would have no idea that I was targeted like that. Which is why I think Sir T is completely innocent, unless he is a second SK, or there is a second scum group. Which actually...could be completely true...but I'm not sure with the lack of kills that exist here.

Nocmen · Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:28 am

I attempted to investigate Kaleidoscope as I said before.

Nocmen · Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:34 am

I think the question though about the resurecting role is people want to know that if it was made by one of us, were there restrictions on it, or was it made to create a death cult, etc.

Also...can someone summarize the whole Stark logic? I know part of it is the fact that he has been like actively lurking somewhat...but I'm confused in much other then that.

Nocmen · Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:13 pm

Vote: Kalidoscope

His first day actions seemed as if he was trying to find the best wagon to jump on. Now that someone finally agrees with me, might as well put my vote out there.

Nocmen · Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:04 pm

armlx wrote:
armlx wrote: Also, Kscope revealed Jdodge's role as having been sent in as scum however Sim. Would scum-Kscope do that?
\

Nocmen, reading is tech. Please respond to this point.

Uh...I see nothing like that from KScope. He claimed to make the grim part of my role...and when he realized that I had it...he realized JDodge killed me...and used this as a way to look townie by taking out the person who killed me.

Nocmen · Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:23 pm

How do you know that he didn't want to do that? I put a few hints out there...and any one may have picked up on them. JDodge looked pretty doomed ever since he was taken out. In that scenario, he could take advantage and lead an attack on a very weak teammate, so he would look like a member of the town.

Nocmen · Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:05 am

I think right now this massclaim could work, but I don't really know. Regardless of any roles being switched in alignment, we can sort of guess and take the chances at which roles would not make sense as being scum aligned. But I'm not sure about going after someone like TSS now, I see how we may just want to try and eliminate the threat of him making a cult if there are not many better options.

Nocmen · Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:50 pm

I'm not the type of person that just will go after someone because someone else thinks they are obviously scum. Then again, I'm also considering the possibility of a dead weight lynch in the case that MoS can't find a replacement for PBuG.

Nocmen · Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:13 pm

jedi, you gave me a shirt night 2, didn't you?

I was hoping it could explain my RB night 1...but I'm doubting that was what happened.

Nocmen · Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:44 am

jediknight wrote:My order thus far and color:

Twomz- Yellow- Night 1
Nocman- Teal- Night 2
Sim- Red- night 3
Bel- white- night 4

I have 2 shirts left: Pink and Black.

I know I've asked this already but did anything different occur with these people either:
1. the night of
2. the day after
3 the night after (if applicable)

Night of - I died. But I don't beleive it was due to the shirt, I'm pretty certain that JDodge and SirTornado are the ones that each killed me.

Day after - Nothing. I was dead. I lurked and read through the game because I was still interested to see how it would turn out.

Night After - I got back to life.

Nocmen · Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:20 am

But do we know for certain Simenon actually receieved a shirt?

Nocmen · Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:48 am

While I see the point of putting presure on Nonny right away, I think lynching him before the claim is a very bad idea, regardless of if he has read or not.

Nocmen · Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:05 pm

Tell us all the information you have.

Nocmen · Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:15 pm

Nonny, no beating around the bush. It doesn't matter if the person is dead, I want to know any PM's or results you have gotten.

Nocmen · Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:57 pm

I dont think a townie in this situation would withhold information.

Vote: Nonny

Nocmen · Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:59 pm

Hmm...I see how Zoneace's role can be a hazard to the town...but I'm still awkward just letting him up and go like that.

Nocmen · Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:20 pm

No. I took out jediknight. I was not sure what he really was doing, it seemed that his shirts really didn't add up to anything.

Nocmen · Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:05 am

As much as everyone saw jediknight, I saw him giving what could be an investigation, but I also thought that it was possible for him and Simenon using that as a gambit together. But the more I think of it, I don't think Simenon is really scum at all, and I'm starting to think I did mess this kill up.

As for the scum killing CKD, my guess would be they wanted to see if they could 2-for-1 Belgarion as well.

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