1) Even knowing that Thyroid is Simenon does not convince me to buy a ticket (which I still refuse to do).
2) Waiting for PBug to finish before commenting on his notes.
3) TSS, you've been playing long enough to know that just because some player posts a list of people they "think" are town in no way means that all, or even some, of the people on the list are in fact town. It's fine that you want people to know that you don't believe that group of people to be scum, but it doesn't change the fact that any of them may be, and it certainly doesn't give you or anyone on that list the right to control Fonz's votes. It is his role, therefore it is his decision when, how, where and why to place his votes. (
BTW, FONZ, I BELIEVE I QFTed YOU EARLIER, IF I DIDN'T I AM WILLING TO DO SO, JUST POST SOMETHING QFT WORTHY
) Attempting to guide those votes imo is scummy (just about one of the only scum tells I'm willing to follow) and if he ends up being scum, his voting record will reflect it, in which case we will lynch him. Attempting to leash him in actually prevents us from being able to determine his alignment accurately and gives him a shield to hide behind if he is the instrument of a bad lynching streak.
4) Since I don't believe I've done so in a while... a list of people whom I believe to be town.
Myself (my death and method of resurrection seem proof enough, but I understand the doubt that some people have, just don't get all paranoid about zombie cults, and if you do, look for the cult leader not the members).
Jediknight (because he rezzed me and mainly just a it makes more sense for him to be town)
Sir T (ability and it also makes sense for him to be town imo)
Nocmen (not 100% on but it also makes sense for him to be town to me for some reason)
Belg/CKD (also not 100% on, but if one dies we know the alignment of the other (barring death miller nonsense, but that would be pretty far fetched))
Fonz (relatively certain of alignment, although there is a small chance of a mafia multivoter)
Neutralz
Armlx, Stark, mneme, PBug and Shanba. (On shanba, I'm only neutral because I can see the role as being either good or bad, but I'm not really looking at him as scum right now)
Everyone else I either have no opinion on, or believe in some way to be scum.
Finally
TSS wrote:
-- He is not present on either of the lynching wagons for dead scum.
-- He is not on The List.
-- He has twice within recent memory completely rewritten my position on an issue.
-- He is attempting to portray as irrational my considering myself as town.
-- He has opposed, and is continuing to oppose, a plan that would have given the town two free votes guaranteed to not be guided by scum.
-- He and more so his predecessor in interest has displayed scummy-looking interactions with other scum suspects and exhibited positions known to be endorsed by scum.
-- Valid point that is worth looking into.
-- Not a valid point.
-- Examples?
-- Not irrational but incorrect. While you have reason to believe yourself town (or so you would like us to think) we have no reason to believe you're town. If you go creating lists of "cleared" players and include yourself with only your word proving you're town, it is very very scummy.
-- Incorrect, he is opposing a plan to control a probably protown power role that would also greatly inhibit our ability to determine if the controller of the power role is protown or not in the first place.
-- Examples?
You have one valid point and two possibly valid points, but your list is filled in with three garbage points that I would expect from scum trying to strawman someone who is town.
"It's not a logical inconsistency. B can't be correct because then C would be, but it doesn't go the other way - there's nothing wrong with C being correct. Aside from Twomz saying otherwise." --Mith
