Since I've been thinking out loud a lot and posting way too much stuff -- I'm going to try and summarize my beliefs and save everybody the trouble of trying to decipher my many posts. Here is an overview of my current thoughts.
I'm pretty sure there is a Godfather. Here is my argument:
Hang 'em High wrote:I've been assuming there is a Godfather in the game. If there is not, then this is easy. We've got 5 dead townies. I make 6 and I've got an innocent on BM and distad, which makes 8. BM has an innocent on ChronX, which makes 9 townies. That leaves Gorgon, Atticus and Sonicpulsar as the Scum. However, I don't think that is the case. That arrangement would give us 5 power roles -- Cop, Doc, 2 Masons and JoAT -- versus scum with only 1 power role -- Roleblocker. That seems too unbalanced in favor of the town, even for a speed game. Therefore, I think it is extremely likely we have a Godfather in the game.
I'm also pretty sure Gorgon is a Scum Roleblocker. Here is my argument:
Hang 'em High wrote:All the scenarios I've been considering include the assumption Gorgon is a scum Roleblocker. I'm now going to try and determine if there is an alternative wherein he is town. First, regardless of his alignment I believe his claim. He said he blocked me night 1 and I was indeed blocked. I don't see how he could have claimed this if he wasn't telling the truth.
Hang 'em High wrote:I realize I need to clarify my last post a little. In one post I come up with this -- the key part is underlined:
Hang 'em High wrote:If Battle Mage is innocent it means SP and Atticus are Goons and either distad or ChronX is the GF. I don't buy this since it would give the town 6 power roles versus a GF and 2 Goons. Too unbalanced in favor of the town.
Conclusion: If Gorgon is town then BM isn't innocent and must be the GF
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In a later post I realize this (key part again underlined):
Hang 'em High wrote:If Gorgon is town then BM almost has to be town as well
. The only way BM could have known he was RBed was if he was a power role or he and Gorgon were scum together running a gambit. Since in this scenario Gorgon is town, it means BM has to have a power role with a night action. The only night action the GF would have is killing, and since a kill happened it seems logical that if Gorgon is town then BM is a protown power role.
Since this is obviously a contradiction I can only conclude my logic is faulty (I don't think so, but correct me if I'm wrong) or my premise in incorrect. My premise was: "If Gorgon is town". I think that's wrong -- there is no way Gorgon is town.
Based on those assumptions, I see the following possible scenarios based on who the GF could be:
Here’s scenario one (ChronX is the GF and BM and distad are innocent based on my investigations):
Town:
=Confused= (Doctor)
d3sisted I (Vanilla)
Raffles (Vanilla)
Curiouskarmadog (Mason)
d3sisted II (Mason)
Hang ‘em High (Cop)
Battle Mage (Jack-of-all-Trades)
distad (Vanilla)
Either Atticus or Sonicpulsar (Vanilla)
Scum:
Gorgon (Roleblocker/Prostitute)
ChronX (Godfather)
Either Atticus or Sonicpulsar (Goon)
Here’s scenario two (BM is the GF and distad is innocent based on my investigation):
Town:
=Confused= (Doctor)
d3sisted I (Vanilla)
Raffles (Vanilla)
Curiouskarmadog (Mason)
d3sisted II (Mason)
Hang ‘em High (Cop)
distad (Vanilla)
Two of Atticus, Sonicpulsar or ChronX (Vanilla)
Scum:
Gorgon (Roleblocker/Prostitute)
Battle Mage (Godfather)
One of Atticus, Sonicpulsar or ChronX (Goon)
Here's scenario three (distad is the GF and BM and ChronX are innocent based on my investigation):
Town:
=Confused= (Doctor)
d3sisted I (Vanilla)
Raffles (Vanilla)
Curiouskarmadog (Mason)
d3sisted II (Mason)
Hang ‘em High (Cop)
Battle Mage (Jack-of-all-Trades)
ChronX (Vanilla)
Either Atticus or Sonicpulsar (Vanilla)
Scum:
Gorgon (Roleblocker/Prostitute)
distad (Godfather)
Either Atticus or Sonicpulsar (Goon)
Here's scenario four (Atticus or SP are the GF and BM, ChronX & distad are innocent based on my and BM's investigations):
Town:
=Confused= (Doctor)
d3sisted I (Vanilla)
Raffles (Vanilla)
Curiouskarmadog (Mason)
d3sisted II (Mason)
Hang ‘em High (Cop)
Battle Mage (Jack-of-all-Trades)
ChronX (Vanilla)
distad (Vanilla)
Scum:
Gorgon (Roleblocker/Prostitute)
Either Atticus or Sonicpulsar (Godfather)
Either Atticus or Sonicpulsar (Goon)
I know I've talked myself in circles throughout this, so I hope I'm not missing something. Do you buy my first two assumptions: 1) there is a GF and 2) Gorgon is scum RB?
There are two types of people in the world -- those who divide people into types and those who don't.
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