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Assuming we can come up with some reason that scum benefit from knowing everyone's positions, would it be beneficial for people on the ice to claim that the one they're in is NOT the right position? This way not everyone claims their actual position, but it can help the coach put us in the right position with minimal help to scum, imo.Permanent V/LA.-
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I would like to propose something. Not for this day, perhaps, but for future days. I propose that whoever Primate puts on the ice gets immunity from lynch. I propose it for these reasons:
a) This allows Primate more control over who gets lynched, since he doesn't have a vote. Sure, he can tell us what he thinks, but scum can still argue against him if they have to. This way, he makes some of the calls for sure.
b) This allows us to focus more on a smaller group of players and hopefully apply good pressure to force the scum out. This is not to say that we will ignore other players on the ice if they do something really scummy, but the discussion should be focused around scrutinizing the scummy players not on the ice. The players on the ice still need to actively contribute and analyze people, because they could find themselves taken off the ice the next day if they try to skate by without helping the town. This forces activity out of the players as well as putting focused pressure on scummy players to get them to shape up or ship out.
c) Most importantly, this means that we don't lynch anyone who is currently on the ice. Since I'm not sure how the mechanics work for that, I'm going to assume that it would be beneficial for us to end each day with a full number of players on the ice, in order to keep the other team from scoring. This plan allows us to not only make sure that we have all those players on the ice, but that also the people on the ice are the ones who look more innocent anyways, since Primate is putting them there for that reason.Permanent V/LA.-
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I wish it worked that way.Primate wrote:
No, just no.Mastermind of Sin wrote:I would like to propose something. Not for this day, perhaps, but for future days. I propose that whoever Primate puts on the ice gets immunity from lynch. I propose it for these reasons:
a) This allows Primate more control over who gets lynched, since he doesn't have a vote. Sure, he can tell us what he thinks, but scum can still argue against him if they have to. This way, he makes some of the calls for sure.
b) This allows us to focus more on a smaller group of players and hopefully apply good pressure to force the scum out. This is not to say that we will ignore other players on the ice if they do something really scummy, but the discussion should be focused around scrutinizing the scummy players not on the ice. The players on the ice still need to actively contribute and analyze people, because they could find themselves taken off the ice the next day if they try to skate by without helping the town. This forces activity out of the players as well as putting focused pressure on scummy players to get them to shape up or ship out.
c) Most importantly, this means that we don't lynch anyone who is currently on the ice. Since I'm not sure how the mechanics work for that, I'm going to assume that it would be beneficial for us to end each day with a full number of players on the ice, in order to keep the other team from scoring. This plan allows us to not only make sure that we have all those players on the ice, but that also the people on the ice are the ones who look more innocent anyways, since Primate is putting them there for that reason.
#1: I think I covered that if I want to lynch someone and the rest of the town doesn't, I can act as king and just order the town to lynch that person. That gives me all the say I will ever need, really, and as far as self-enforced rules go, it's better than one that encourages us to ignore half the players.
The Venerable Zorg wrote: I'm not convinced by Masterminds plan either. Primate's responses made alot of sense, except the bit about 'if i think someone could be scum, you must do as i say'. Whilst of course, as Captain, we know you are on our side, that doesn't necessarily mean you are always right.So, whilst we should take your opinion into account, i don't think just going along with whatever you say is a great way to play the game.But maybe that's just me.
Fair enough. I mean, I guess it's a given that you would put people you trust the most on the ice. I didn't really think that through.#2: 'focus on players not on the ice' is another way of saying 'ignore the players on the ice' except your way actively encourages us to do less whilst my way encourages the town to do more things. And I think the 'post or you get taken off the ice' threat is there regardless of whether we're focusing on the non-icers, so that's irrelevant too. So the second part of the plan is something that's going to happen regardless, so it's a bit misleading you try and put it across as an advantage of your plan.
From the way I understand the game, getting goals are *more* paramount than lynching scum. Sure, we want to lynch scum, but I think it would be more beneficial for us to have a scum on the ice than to take them off the ice and play shorthanded. Assuming this game is supposed to simulate an actual hockey game, the scum can't sabotage the game *too* obviously, because we'd see it. However, playing shorthanded is a strong recipe for the other team to score. So I disagree that we should just "consider the ice". I would propose that having players on the ice is the most important aspect of the game.#3: Is BS too. If someone is sufficiently scummy we should lynch them regardless. I admit we need to consider the ice, seeing as how goals are paramount, but it's a bit stupid just saying that we're going to ignore all the people on the ice cause it could lose them the game.
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I'm clearly in agreement.Primate wrote:
Erm, well if the town agrees, if can work that way.I wish it worked that way.
YOUR WISHES CAN COME TRUE, MOS, THEY CAN COME TRUE!
Do you agree with my proposition about the ice, or is there some mechanic we don't know about (that you know) that makes the ice less important?Permanent V/LA.-
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We need to get these penalties worked out without subjecting ourselves to them as much as possible. I suggest we watch the other thread (if you aren't already) to see what penalties they run into. I'd rather not have more penalties than they do by the end of the "period". Or even the day, for that matter. Or ever.Permanent V/LA.-
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Maybe you only get called on it once?The Venerable Zorg wrote:
if that was the case, Oman would have recieved one between Lowell's and Flameaxe's...Mastermind of Sin wrote:It's definitely sandwiching a post between two of your own that gets you smashing penalties. We said this pages and pages ago, why are you people still doing it?
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...I can't believe I just did that. I sat here for like 10 minutes going, "ah, fuck, I can't believe Oman got me to do that!" Then I realized I had already done it to Shanba's post. Oh great. So, I'm not going to be speaking for 24 hours or so, once the mod gets here. That was dumb of me. That's what I get for posting on impulse instead of paying attention. -_-
I don't think you get called for the penalty multiple times in a row, or I wouldn't be posting this. However, I've already committed the penalty (twice, even >.<), so there's no point in hoping that someone else shows up to the thread before the mod does. Cya in 24 hours, guys. >_<
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Well, first off, I think I was pretty vocal about his lynch, now that you mention it. Secondly, I just said I wasn't that happy with your play from what I remembered. I'm not making a definite judgement, and I didn't say anything at all about the Oman lynch, so why are you so defensive about it?Lowell wrote:MoS, I totally carried us to that Oman lynch. Give a minute to celebrate before you accuse me of bussing, at least...Permanent V/LA.-
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This statement does not compute. Please explain.Primate wrote:PS: cpe is probably town. He's the only member of the intro crew I want to keep on the ice.
Three things:Lowell wrote:I like that lineup, and agree I dont' really care who the last person is.
Three things:
1) I now firmly think flameaxe is innocent.
2) Primate, I think you may be right about why we conceded a goal... though it does, on some level, seem a little to obvious
3) MoS usually hates me and finds me suspicious. Not as much this game... THIS I find suspicious
1) I'd mostly given up on helping you
2) I have bigger fish to fry
3) You're actually doing a pretty good job of not sucking this game
Therefore, I have no reason to hate you OR find you suspicious.Permanent V/LA.-
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I don't like his interaction with Oman and the way he got his penalties.Primate wrote:
It's absolutely nothing like his scum play and very similar to how he always plays as town.Mastermind of Sin wrote:
This statement does not compute. Please explain.Primate wrote:PS: cpe is probably town. He's the only member of the intro crew I want to keep on the ice.Permanent V/LA.-
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