Mini 490: Speed Mafia - GAME OVER.
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Sonicpulsar Goon
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Son of a...I'm making an ass of myself and quickly. I have the FOS on HeH and Gorgon, and then in making my argument against Gorgon....again....I lapsed and used my argument for HeH against Gorgon. My bad, I apologize for my obvious confusion. Perhaps I should learn my lesson and not post while trying to teach a lab. Seriously, I get a question every 2-3 minutes and get no more than one sentence typed at a time.
I'll agree, it's a dead issue now. I'll quit harping on it. Although I must say I don't feel like I've been pursuing it so much as responding to what others have been saying. Either way, I'm done with it."Truth and Falsehood were bathing. Falsehood came out of the water first and dressed herself in Truth's clothes. Truth, unwilling to put on the garments of Falsehood, went naked." - Unknown-
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Gorgon Goon
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Fair enough ... it's clear that you're confused and distracted.
I can somewhat see that HeH's accusation that you might have been setting up a possible false claim could be scummy (painting you in a bad light; if he's scum and you're town he benefits from this by spinning the issue towards the idea of you being scum), but to me there's nothing scummy about my take on this issue ... so it's good we got that sorted out.
I very much hope that you'll be able to contribute something more useful later ... the deadline looms, and people not focusing on the game is very harmful and confusing to others.-
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Hang 'em High Goon
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My reason for voting Sonicpulsar was to draw him into the conversation and that's been successful. Time to try again with a new target. Since Mr. Pigg is totally AWOL and isn't likely to respond at all, I'm going to vote for somebody else that seems lurky in an attempt to get them to respond.
Unvote: Sonicpulsar
Vote: d3sisted
We don't have long before deadline and I know d3sisted will be away tomorrow, so I'd like to hear from him today.There are two types of people in the world -- those who divide people into types and those who don't.
Note: I've got LA on weekends and in the evening.-
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ChronX Goon
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Atticus Mafia Scum
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distad Goon
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Atticus Mafia Scum
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Unfortunately, my schoolwork has caused massive amounts of stress and has eaten up 80% of my free time every day. I may or may not need to be replaced, but I will definitely make it through this day.
I'd like to stick with HeH for scum at this point. I would have to go back through the couple of posts again to get some pinpoints, which right now I am too tired to do. But his comments and defense for his bandwagon seem rather weak. I'll keep my vote where it is."There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill-
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Gorgon Goon
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Good effing question. BM got himself replaced in another game that I'm in with him, so I don't know what's up with him these days.Raffles wrote:Unvote
Where the heck is BM?
@Atticus - Do you mean to say that you'll stick with voting HeH? Because, you know, it doesn't seem you're actually voting for anyone ...-
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Gorgon Goon
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Battle Mage Jester
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a few things to say:Gorgon wrote:
Good effing question. BM got himself replaced in another game that I'm in with him, so I don't know what's up with him these days.Raffles wrote:Unvote
Where the heck is BM?
@Atticus - Do you mean to say that you'll stick with voting HeH? Because, you know, it doesn't seem you're actually voting for anyone ...
1. I didnt 'get myself replaced' in Jordan's game. I quit because i wanted to dedicate more time to the games i can keep up with.
2. It cant have been more than a few days since i last posted. This game is active, and i am following, but sometimes i dont get the chance to reply to everything.
3. The only thing that has been directed at me in particular recently from what i can see, is the accusation from Gorgon that i am 'following Chronx blindly', by voting for the same person. I need to reread, but Chronx gives me protown vibes, and his vote made sense to me. We need a lynch soon, and BWing seemed like a good idea at the time.
However i need to read the last few pages, as there has been some heavy posting lately. lol
A vote Count would be loverly.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Gorgon Goon
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Fair enough. Seeing you're in an awful lot of games, I don't blame you ...Battle Mage wrote:1. I didnt 'get myself replaced' in Jordan's game. I quit because i wanted to dedicate more time to the games i can keep up with.
Also fair enough, as per the point above. I'm amazed at the number of games you manage to be active in.Battle Mage wrote: 2. It cant have been more than a few days since i last posted. This game is active, and i am following, but sometimes i dont get the chance to reply to everything.
Well, it was just that you didn't say anything about your own feelings towards ckd, just basically that you agreed with ChronX, so I found it a little odd that you would bandwagon with no explanation beyond that. I do agree that bandwagons are a must, though.Battle Mage wrote: 3. The only thing that has been directed at me in particular recently from what i can see, is the accusation from Gorgon that i am 'following Chronx blindly', by voting for the same person. I need to reread, but Chronx gives me protown vibes, and his vote made sense to me. We need a lynch soon, and BWing seemed like a good idea at the time.
You also haven't explained why you wanted to pounce on me for the SP vote.
I concur.Battle Mage wrote:A vote Count would be loverly.-
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Battle Mage Jester
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If i recall, i noticed something earlier that struck me as very odd, about CKD's play. It might not even be this game, but i need to go back and check. I'll also go and find out what was wrong with your SP vote.
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Battle Mage Jester
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ah yes. I remember now. This post just sounds like you are giving a fairly meaningless excuse for a BW vote, in order to avoid suspicion. Its a little scummy, but not really enough to go with at this stage of the day.Gorgon wrote:Okay, I'm ready to vote again. If the next bandwagon is going to be an anti-lurker wagon, it makes sense to add to the vote that's already out there.
Vote: Sonicpulsar
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Raffles Mafia Zcum
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Wouldn't these two contradict each other? If you have been following, why do you need to go back and read? Only possible explanation is you are lying about the first, and I'm not talking about "I am following" part.Battle Mage wrote:2. It cant have been more than a few days since i last posted. This game is active, and i am following, but sometimes i dont get the chance to reply to everything.
3. The only thing that has been directed at me in particular recently from what i can see, is the accusation from Gorgon that i am 'following Chronx blindly', by voting for the same person. I need to reread, but Chronx gives me protown vibes, and his vote made sense to me. We need a lynch soon, and BWing seemed like a good idea at the time.
However i need to read the last few pages, as there has been some heavy posting lately. lolWoof!-
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Gorgon Goon
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I'm almost tempted to shout "NO U!"Battle Mage wrote:
ah yes. I remember now. This post just sounds like you are giving a fairly meaningless excuse for a BW vote, in order to avoid suspicion. Its a little scummy, but not really enough to go with at this stage of the day.Gorgon wrote:Okay, I'm ready to vote again. If the next bandwagon is going to be an anti-lurker wagon, it makes sense to add to the vote that's already out there.
Vote: Sonicpulsar
BM
... except I note now that you didn't actually vote at all, despite your declared interest in bandwagons.
Raffles has an interesting point as well, btw.-
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distad Goon
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First,Unvote, Vote: d3sisted
I'll explain that in a second...
Now, from what I can tell...
d3 (4): Gorgon, HEH, ChronX, distad
I don't think that anyone else has a vote on... CKD and Raff unvoted.
modPlease confirm.
The reason for my unvote/vote: It's obvious now that a pressure vote on Pigg is *useless*. He's gone and will be replaced. I had been suspicious of d3 earlier and despite asking for a votecount a day and a half ago, he has yet to post since. This is roughly 50% pressure. I'm putting him at deadline-lynchable (~28 hours away?) to force his hand.
And Raffles/Gorgon, I disagree. I'm in about 6-7 games myself, and despite following along with all of them, sometimes I don't have anything to say about a point. Then, after 20+ posts go by rapidly, despite having read them, I need to go back and reread also. It's not uncommon and certainly not contradictory. I don't like the "declared interest in bandwagons" either, but since I just joined one, I guess I can't complain too loudly.-
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Gorgon Goon
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I have no problem with BM's declared interest in bandwagons. What I was getting at is that BM says that bandwagons are good, was interested in following ChronX and voting for ckd, but didn't actually do it ... and still hasn't voted for anyone in a while now. I'm not sure either way to make of it, but I did think it was interesting. It's just something to note.distad wrote: I don't like the "declared interest in bandwagons" either, but since I just joined one, I guess I can't complain too loudly.
Let's hope d3sisted shows up now ... if he's gone away already I'm very much afraid we might be in a deadlock situation.-
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distad Goon
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Hang 'em High Goon
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d3sisted's signature says he'll be away from the 19th through the 21st -- which means he's already gone and won't be back until after the deadline. This means if we're going to lynch him we'll have to do so without his input. Normally I wouldn't want to do this, but in this case I think it may be warranted.
He was up to three votes yesterday afternoon (when he was still around) and didn't make any posts defending himself, despite requests to do so. I generally wouldn't read too much into this since he could have been getting ready to leave and didn't have a chance to check in. However, I checked his other games and since he received the third vote here he has made a total of 15 posts in 6 different games -- including commenting on an already completed game.
So unless he didn't read this game at all (which is inexcusable knowing we were under a deadline), he knew he was a lynch candidate and decided to go silent. He made ample posts elsewhere, so he obviously had time to post here if he so desired. I find it very scummy that he chose to go silent when he knew that he was: 1) going out of town, 2) a lynch candidate, and 3) we were under deadline. My vote stays.There are two types of people in the world -- those who divide people into types and those who don't.
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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this is a good point, let me double check the facts to see if this is indeed correct.Hang 'em High wrote:d3sisted's signature says he'll be away from the 19th through the 21st -- which means he's already gone and won't be back until after the deadline. This means if we're going to lynch him we'll have to do so without his input. Normally I wouldn't want to do this, but in this case I think it may be warranted.
He was up to three votes yesterday afternoon (when he was still around) and didn't make any posts defending himself, despite requests to do so. I generally wouldn't read too much into this since he could have been getting ready to leave and didn't have a chance to check in. However, I checked his other games and since he received the third vote here he has made a total of 15 posts in 6 different games -- including commenting on an already completed game.
So unless he didn't read this game at all (which is inexcusable knowing we were under a deadline), he knew he was a lynch candidate and decided to go silent. He made ample posts elsewhere, so he obviously had time to post here if he so desired. I find it very scummy that he chose to go silent when he knew that he was: 1) going out of town, 2) a lynch candidate, and 3) we were under deadline. My vote stays.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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distad Goon
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distad Goon
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Gorgon Goon
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I checked, and I can confirm that HeH is indeed right ... d3sisted has posted in various games since he made his last post here; in fact, his last post here almost doesn't make it to the first page of his list of posts. HeH's theory that d3sisted left this game on purpose in order to put us into a position where we'd have to refrain from lynching him is therefore credible. It also does not look good that d3sisted has been very terse of late in this game, and he wasn't all that vocal to begin with.
Looking at it through cold, hard logic, even if we lynch completely randomly, we have a little over 1/4 chance of getting scum. Seeing that a not unreasonable number of people have voiced suspicions against d3sisted, and his absence is indeed suspicious, I think the chance is somewhat higher than this in his case.
To me, this says that d3sisted is our deadline lynch, unless someone comes up with avery crediblealternative, or there is reason to assume that a no lynch would be a better option.
I have some reservations over the fact that d3sisted will probably not have a chance to claim, though, so I want to hear from as many of you as are able to post before the deadline about your take on this.-
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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