Mini 1732 - Super Smash Bros. Project M(afia) - D7!

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:44 pm

Post I quoted was all stuff that had been mentioned in the thread in one way or another. That's what I'm looking at right now. Just expect something new from a lurker. Without new stuff from a lurker I don't see why we don't vote this here.

Xtoxm · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:46 pm

get some interest and i'll join. i still like my wander push personally

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:57 pm

In post 216, Gendaberry wrote:
In post 208, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'd spew some meta on myself, but pretty sure that would just be taken as scummy at this point.

Why bring this up at all then. Also what made you go from seeing MS as scum in #137 to possibly town in #158?

I like All Alone's opening so I'm leaning town on him. Also leaning town on GL, but it's mostly gut.

Oh yeah, and one part of my role is miller. On top of the usual guilty investigations thing, it seems like I'll show up as having visited a random person who died each night.

In post 342, Gendaberry wrote:VOTE: Davsto

I think this ISO is pretty bad. Apart from calling smiffle's first vote awful, he hasn't done anything to scumhunt at all despite having a decent number of posts. He seems more preoccupied with setup/role speculation then actually catching scum.

Don't know why people are trying to focus on ASP right now, it's a waste of time to try to get info on a player who hasn't even posted yet especially when the thread pretty active - it's pointless filler that doesn't help town at all.

Also on the topic of Nana, I have a feeling that Nana is going to survive the first kill on her and revive as Popo. It would also make sense given that Ice Climbers don't die until Popo himself is dead.

In post 353, Gendaberry wrote:
In post 343, LicketyQuickety wrote:

Thoughts on Smiffle and MM?

MM - Null. Hasn't done much and I'm having problems reading him. Ask again later

Smiffle - Town lean, I'm fine with most of his posts and reads, especially recently.

In post 483, Gendaberry wrote:
In post 359, Tails wrote:
In post 342, Gendaberry wrote:
I think this ISO is pretty bad. Apart from calling smiffle's first vote awful, he hasn't done anything to scumhunt at all despite having a decent number of posts. He seems more preoccupied with setup/role speculation then actually catching scum.

How is this worse than what Lickity has done?

It isn't, you're right

VOTE: Lickity

@Lickity - Now that you're townreading pretty much the only player you've pressured this game, do you plan on actually looking for scum or is that not something we should look forward to? You've interacted with almost everyone by now, do something with it.

None of these posts are making waves at all. They are all very safe given what was happening in the thread at the time. With the lurking on top of it it really is not hard to do as Scum. I think its pretty standard for Scum to follow the general consensus on things to make it look like they are taking stances on stuff, but are really just keeping out of trouble to not arouse suspicion.

I will say that because of the claim that they can prolly live today, but don't like the visiting a dead player bit. What exactly is the purpose of visiting a dead player must have a reason and if it looks to be a pretty underwhelming find then I think its pretty safe in saying this slot is scum.

Gendaberry · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:59 pm

In post 484, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 483, Gendaberry wrote:
In post 359, Tails wrote:
In post 342, Gendaberry wrote:
I think this ISO is pretty bad. Apart from calling smiffle's first vote awful, he hasn't done anything to scumhunt at all despite having a decent number of posts. He seems more preoccupied with setup/role speculation then actually catching scum.

How is this worse than what Lickity has done?

It isn't, you're right

VOTE: Lickity

@Lickity - Now that you're townreading pretty much the only player you've pressured this game, do you plan on actually looking for scum or is that not something we should look forward to? You've interacted with almost everyone by now, do something with it.

I'll deal with this later. I have another game that is about to start and I have to read like 26 pages (25ppp).

So are you planning on addressing this or are you just going to ignore it? Scumreading me won't make the fact that you've done very little recently any less true.

Xtoxm · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:00 pm

i missed the claim. hes very likely town due to that.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:02 pm

In post 529, Xtoxm wrote:i missed the claim. hes very likely town due to that.

I know, and its a PL if the claim is bogus right?

Gendaberry · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:02 pm

In post 527, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I will say that because of the claim that they can prolly live today, but don't like the visiting a dead player bit. What exactly is the purpose of visiting a dead player must have a reason and if it looks to be a pretty underwhelming find then I think its pretty safe in saying this slot is scum.

Its to make the miller part of my role worse? It means I can show up guilty to tracker/watcher investigations too.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:05 pm

In post 531, Gendaberry wrote:
In post 527, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I will say that because of the claim that they can prolly live today, but don't like the visiting a dead player bit. What exactly is the purpose of visiting a dead player must have a reason and if it looks to be a pretty underwhelming find then I think its pretty safe in saying this slot is scum.

Its to make the miller part of my role worse? It means I can show up guilty to tracker/watcher investigations too.

I want a full claim at this point. The guilty to tracker/Watcher is beyond weird at this point.

Xtoxm · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:08 pm

In post 530, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 529, Xtoxm wrote:i missed the claim. hes very likely town due to that.

I know, and its a PL if the claim is bogus right?

uh what? why are you even saying this?

Gendaberry · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:09 pm

Do you know what a miller does

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:15 pm

In post 533, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 530, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 529, Xtoxm wrote:i missed the claim. hes very likely town due to that.

I know, and its a PL if the claim is bogus right?

uh what? why are you even saying this?

In post 534, Gendaberry wrote:Do you know what a miller does

Yeah. Claiming Miller as Scum is a pretty unethical thing to do.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Miller

This very well could be quite the role madness game indeed if Gleda's claim is true.

I'm tempted to ask for your reads, Glenda and ask to see if they are vig worthy.

Gendaberry · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:21 pm

In post 535, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I'm tempted to ask for your reads, Glenda and ask to see if they are vig worthy.

What's stopping you

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:23 pm

In post 536, Gendaberry wrote:
In post 535, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I'm tempted to ask for your reads, Glenda and ask to see if they are vig worthy.

What's stopping you

I was asking you what your reads are. Only thing I was on the fence about was the Vig kill.

Xtoxm · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:24 pm

smiffle · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:25 pm

In post 513, Nana wrote:Did anyone have anything directed towards me that I need to address?

hey, hey, hey, hey, what are your reads?
Who are you going to vote?
Are you a cpu?
If not, who do you main?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:26 pm

In post 538, Xtoxm wrote:???

Do you have an actual question here?

smiffle · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:27 pm

In post 272, smiffle wrote:
In post 216, Gendaberry wrote:
Oh yeah, and one part of my role is miller. On top of the usual guilty investigations thing, it seems like I'll show up as having visited a random person who died each night.

Sleepwalker is a role I haven't heard of in a long time. Miller-sleepwalker sounds pretty believable actually, although it's an odd combo.

In post 219, Tails wrote:Why Lickety is scum and you should vote him:
1.) He's hedging his bets. (MS or GL? Seriously? You couldn't just say you had 4 scumreads? You had to limit the amount you had? Seems fake.)
2.) He's fishing and only focused on roles and mechanics. No scumhunting from him whatsoever. This is metagaming at its finest. It's filler.
3.) He's spreading suspicion everywhere and keeping his options open. Look at the last 2 pages and see how many people he's called suspect.

Now lynch the obv. scum.

For me, 1st reason translates into: he just has plain bad reads.
2nd reason is actually quite valid, he's so far planted his vote on me, and hasn't done shit except say how bad my reasons for voting him are, and try to bait anything that's everything. He keeps doing a ton of useless spec too. Trying to outguess the mod or w/e. I have strong bias on meta gaming people, so that's the nullish part of the reason.
3rd reason sounds like you think he's opportunistic, but that's basically your first reason. Point out to me multiple instances of him being opportunistic than maybe that'll support what you're saying.

Lick, it should read like this.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:32 pm

@Smiffle, what's your read on me rn?

Xtoxm · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:34 pm

In post 540, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 538, Xtoxm wrote:???

Do you have an actual question here?

can you like stop talking about vig kills

why are you still voting genda? do you disbelieve the miller claim?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:37 pm

In post 543, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 540, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 538, Xtoxm wrote:???

Do you have an actual question here?

can you like stop talking about vig kills

why are you still voting genda? do you disbelieve the miller claim?

The claim is really really weird and this is definitely a really bastard game if they are miller and they get guilty on Watcher and Tracker. I can't for the life of me figure out how that works in this game.

Xtoxm · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:39 pm

its definitely a bastard game regardless because the mod said so. its a role ive encountered before and given he seems to be a newbie, and how utterly ridiculous it would be to fakeclaim that, i think we can be pretty sure the claim is real. having that modifier as scum is possible but town seems more likely.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:44 pm

In post 545, Xtoxm wrote:its definitely a bastard game regardless because the mod said so. its a role ive encountered before and given he seems to be a newbie, and how utterly ridiculous it would be to fakeclaim that, i think we can be pretty sure the claim is real. having that modifier as scum is possible but town seems more likely.

Well at some point we're going to have to test the validity of the claim. This much is certain. I'm looking for a fantastic result on a dead player. I mean, I just can't see this role being completely and utterly negative town utility. There has to be something in the role that makes up for such a downside to town here.

But w/e, I will

UNVOTE: at this time.

Gendaberry · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:45 pm

Wait, you asked me about my role beforehand when I first claimed. You've known about my role for a while now, why is the claim only weird now?

Xtoxm · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:49 pm

In post 546, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 545, Xtoxm wrote:its definitely a bastard game regardless because the mod said so. its a role ive encountered before and given he seems to be a newbie, and how utterly ridiculous it would be to fakeclaim that, i think we can be pretty sure the claim is real. having that modifier as scum is possible but town seems more likely.

Well at some point we're going to have to test the validity of the claim. This much is certain. I'm looking for a fantastic result on a dead player. I mean, I just can't see this role being completely and utterly negative town utility. There has to be something in the role that makes up for such a downside to town here.

But w/e, I will

UNVOTE: at this time.

not necessarily. may be present simply to weaken the power of another role.

smiffle · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:51 pm

In post 542, LicketyQuickety wrote:@Smiffle, what's your read on me rn?

I don't know about the Genda push, Lick. It's good to see that you're actually scum hunting right now, but ennnnhhhhhh... it's in the wrong place, and it's a bit out of the blue. Plus it looks a bit like omgus considering they voted recently, also, looking at your response to their vote, why did you just brush them off only to come back and vote them? Who does that?
Quick note: Miller-sleepwalker claim makes the mod look like a sadist. Lets say every night, just for spec, Gendra visits a person who dies. She appears guilty from investigations, and she'd be seen at the spot of the crime. Now that's a bastard role if I ever saw one. Considering this is a bastard game, I'm slightly inclined to believe her.
Considering all this, your push on her has reasons, but I don't think they're really good ones. You do look scummy for it, but not overly scummy.

p-edit: Fuck it, Lickety, you made me write all of this only to unvote her. What's up with the quick back-down? You wanted to come out here with a confident push, but you were pretty quick to retract it after Xtom and Genda shot it down...