In post 2376, grapes wrote:
Your first point is inarguable because it's true. And it's not a terrible way to scumhunt. But I've seen you ask things like "how do you scumhunt" or "who didn't join an alliance." "did anyone take the quiz" etc. Questions that that don't press very hard if at all. And in the case of the first question which you asked to beer, which is an easily manipulated or null answer however he decided to give it, and when he answered you responded with something like "oh okay thanks" which, ironically was called out by frogger. (I'm having trouble seeing both of you and frogger being scum together as a result of both of your slots softly OMGUSing eachother day 1, but is a bit more likely now that ika is gone, and all of a sudden you're WKing each other, both flipping your reads miraculously and imo a bit unnaturally? Admittedly the WKing is coming a lot more loudly and strong from frogger than it is from you, though.) And I'd like to see him lynched before you if given the choice.
I feel like you aren't following the game very closely. I explained why I dropped the scum hunt thing with Beer already. (post 516) He had said he looked at underlying motivations to see if someone was town or scum. In practically the very next post he stated that it was silly to assign town or scum motivations to posts. This sounded like a direct contradiction to the way he said he scum hunted. That is why I asked him about it because I thought I caught him in a set up for himself to explain away scummy sounding posts in the future. His reply to me showed me that wasn't the case and so I dropped it.
"Who didn't join an alliance?" - I think as time goes on looking at this and the related question of who allied with whom could show something to help find scum. For example, if Frog didn't ally with anyone for the first three days I would be pushing him for an answer to why he wasn't. Also, as I explained in an earlier post, looking to see who ignores my open questions and who picks up on them tells me something. In this case it didn't tell me much because no one chose to answer.
"Who took the quiz?" - I'm not allowed to post anything except strictly game related posts? That would be boring if you think that. I bet you can go through everyone's ISO and find posts that aren't game related.
Floating along asking stuff just makes my funny bone tingle because while, yea both alignments can do it, it's probably one of the easiest ways for scum to lay low and keep their story straight. This is why I've been wanting to press you and see what's happening with you. Does that make a bit more sense?
Again, I'm not a high volume poster. I'm used to being scum read for that. I don't have any problem with you pushing me but I really don't know how to explain myself against the floating along accusation.
For example you're scum reading me, but only decide to bring it up once I ask. I find that kinda strange because don't you want your scum reads to get lynched? Why keep em to yourself? And you couldn't have developed that read recently because apparently it was about my defensiveness day 1. So...
As was brought up before, everything frogger has been forthcoming about with his role would have been something that would have been easily seen eventually anyway, so, it's pretty much null. And yea the fact that he could of just not allied I guess. But that seems like just as good a way to stick out or get people asking questions IMO as well.
BUT does you allegedly thinking that my double vote is somehow imbalanced now become alleviated somewhat with the knowledge that frogger is somewhat a pseudo-doublevoter? Or is that just something that you don't think should be accounted for?
You are not a top scum read to me. I even listed you as null-scum, not just as scum. I usually focus on the players that are standing out as scum the most to me and try to figure out if my read is good or if they are really town who look scummy for any number of reasons.
You do bring up a good point about Frog's sorta double vote. Does it totally balance you? Not really. People could refuse to ally with him and then his double vote doesn't happen. You don't appear to have any constraints on your double vote except for not being able to vote for the same person. I don't see your constraint being as restrictive as Frog's.
I think farside is town as well. But for other reasons. Being involved and scumhunting kinda applies to half(sadly not more) of the players alive and is a bit insulting to her scumgame. Have you seen far's scumgame?
Sorry you don't like my reasons but it is what it is. I am in no way insulting farside.
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