SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[mastin2]

(No, seriously, that song is ridiculously,

ridiculously

lyrically appropriate. If you can't make the lyrics out, look them up. Because Bastille's Bad Blood? Is the message all Tales Survivors need to be given.)

[Xombie]

Kind of a prod dodge.
Kind of not wanting to read the last few pages at all.

[iHouse]

If I see one more drama-tastic post I'm tunneling the asshole that makes it because this shit has gone way too far and needs to stop.

Now.

[farside22]

yes plural. This is not the first game to have neighborhoods. How bout this. The CONCEPT of neighborhoods is helpful. Deal?

also, to farsides newb/notnewb. I don't read join dates. And i don't pay enough attention to know who's who. Also don't read meta. Each game is a beautiful new baby. Plus, my hateful nature plays no favorites.

I linked one post, but i mentioned two other things. i think that 3 things is plenty. Especially considering you voted me with that many posts.

Pedit. Blonde. Don't do that.

INo: I'm referring to ace's remark in bold.

[farside22]

I don't think that aceofspades is claiming that he's in multiple neighborhoods. I thought he was just making a general statement that he liked neighborhoods?

I wouldn't think it was absolutely unheard of in this game if he were. I can think of a couple of gods who are worshipped in more than one pantheon.

That's not my issue.

[farside22]

Okay back to ace for a moment.

He pointed to an issue with AP, based in 3 post.
He (ace) said my case was in regards to 3 post ace made. Well ace had a total of 3 post for the whole game, his comparison is shit.
Ace brought up not liking ap's point against me. I was saying many already stated an issue, why that is a scum tell is not explained by ace.
Finally ace has an issue with the ms point ap made, but td doesn't find ms, why no comment towards td?

This is where I see ace still as scum. AP gets pressure and suddenly out of the blue here comes ace not liking AP.

Reposting the above because it may have gotten lost with the argument

[FourTrouble]

Far, I think your point about the timing of Ace's suspicion on AP is good, but I don't think that the rest of your points are very telling, and it's not enough alone. I can follow some thought process from him, even if it sucks, and his tone feels town, so I don't want to lynch there today. What do you think of TD and Ceph?

[Skybird]

OK, caught up now. I'm a bit dismayed to find MetalSonic is removed from today because I'm reading him as scum now. In our hood he really wants all of us to be town and then decides we are all town. That strikes me as someone who is scum that wants to get on the hood's good side. Here in the game thread his post progression reads more scummy as the pages go by. Voting for him will have to wait until day 2 though.

[FourTrouble]

OK, caught up now. I'm a bit dismayed to find MetalSonic is removed from today because I'm reading him as scum now. In our hood he really wants all of us to be town and then decides we are all town. That strikes me as someone who is scum that wants to get on the hood's good side. Here in the game thread his post progression reads more scummy as the pages go by. Voting for him will have to wait until day 2 though.

Okay. Any other thoughts? Who do you want to lynch Today?

[Cephrir]

Spoiler: Cephrir sights land from the crow's nest and cries out to alert his mates to the coming excitement

mastin2 giving reasons for read when town.

mastin2 as scum not giving reasons for reads.

That first link is barely giving reasons. If I wave my hands around and shout "meta" will you pursue something better?

@metal!

MS: what is wrong with voting blond?

blonde is town. voting him is wrong.

Why is he town.

he is town due to interactions in our neighborhood

SHOW ME THE MONEY.

Piping into say I'm fine with everyone posting - nothing pinged my scumdar.

I really think lynching a lurker\low-poster would yield scum D1. Brantz is my pick. And not interested in lynching TD, Vezo or Mask in that list.

I like that.

Vote: Brantz

Who are you? What are you doing here? Where am I?

Why are you lynching lurkers when you are one? Do you have any opinions about anything?

Liking mastin & vezok's reaction to my posts IRT mastin.

Disliking T S O's.

Not interested in a beast lynch, but I could lynch T S O.

VOTE: T S O

-.-

Later.

^this ability is really cool.

Bad scum? Heck no.

...And there's your answer.

I don't like this answer either. I get the feeling mastin's not trying to figure TD's alignment out (i.e. her read is fake).

Meh.

I seriously still want MS dead, maybe bitmap too, that exchange was terrible.

Drugs are bad for you.

Okay. I see what you're saying. His reevaluation has hints of town. I don't see any support for his lynch so I'm willing to wait on this. Who do you want to lynch? One of the inactives?

AngryPidgeon is my biggest scumread at this point. I also dislike quite a few of TSO's posts - not sure if alignment indicative. But Ffery wants to wait to develop a read on AP and he's busy atm so won't be posting. We have a bunch of townreads as well which we'll post in a bit and then probably POE-lynch someone we can agree on if things with AP stay the same.

I feel kinda like I haven't seen enough of the thoughts here.

[Cephrir]

Oh also, I liked the Bitmap/MS exchange if that wasn't apparent.

[T S O]

F-16, I love you. not that you care, but it's true. when they told me bad things about you I told them not to talk to me ever again.

[Skybird]

OK, caught up now. I'm a bit dismayed to find MetalSonic is removed from today because I'm reading him as scum now. In our hood he really wants all of us to be town and then decides we are all town. That strikes me as someone who is scum that wants to get on the hood's good side. Here in the game thread his post progression reads more scummy as the pages go by. Voting for him will have to wait until day 2 though.

Okay. Any other thoughts? Who do you want to lynch Today?

Yes. I want to look through the ISO's on a couple of the players to finalize my thoughts and engage a few people before I vote.

What's your take on Ace and Beast?

[farside22]

Far, I think your point about the timing of Ace's suspicion on AP is good, but I don't think that the rest of your points are very telling, and it's not enough alone. I can follow some thought process from him, even if it sucks, and his tone feels town, so I don't want to lynch there today. What do you think of TD and Ceph?

Probably not strong but this game is a mess of emotions.

I keep going back and forth on td. I'm fighting meta and gut and what his game play gets him.
Cephrir reads okay so far. I Would lean town this far.
The brantz replacement is giving me scum vibes.

[Skybird]

TheAceofSpades - Have you played with MetalSonic before? in post 1280 you have MS as one of your strongest town reads? I don't read him that way at all and wonder what you are seeing that I am not.

[Skybird]

Far, I think your point about the timing of Ace's suspicion on AP is good, but I don't think that the rest of your points are very telling, and it's not enough alone. I can follow some thought process from him, even if it sucks, and his tone feels town, so I don't want to lynch there today. What do you think of TD and Ceph?

Probably not strong but this game is a mess of emotions.

I keep going back and forth on td. I'm fighting meta and gut and what his game play gets him.
Cephrir reads okay so far. I Would lean town this far.
The brantz replacement is giving me scum vibes.

I get scum-read in every game I have played here whether I'm scum or not due to my posting style. I'm town this game.

[iHouse]

In our hood he really wants all of us to be town and then decides we are all town.

vezok did the same thing in our hood.

[T S O]

maybe they're both scum and their super secret plan is to townread everyone

[Skybird]

Reading through Beastcharizard's ISO, a couple of things stick out to me. First, he has a strong town read on TSO (post 609) but never explains why that is. The second is there is little content in his posts. He is town reading TSO and thinks either House or Vezok is scum (post 570) and in post 990 adds that Metal is scum. I'm leaning scum on him at the moment.

@Beast - can you explain your strong town read of TSO for me?

[Cephrir]

Spoiler: Cephrir moors his ship in an unsuspecting port town central on the spice trade routes...

Farside, why are you voting PV right now? What do you think of Brantz and Solar wind?
eye

Pv has done nothing that comes across as town here or in the pt

I didn't care for brantz at the start because of gut but so far the push on him feels weak.
I find solar very town. I also find myself going back and forth reading imp.

So... the push on him feels weak, even though it is largely your push, and that makes him town? Wouldn't you expect the opposite, if anything, if he was town?

Can't really evaluate with blah reason from ooba.

Nothing in the game apart from a couple of town reads. There's been no post that made me go 'scum'. So I'm concentrating on the lurker\low post list - my choice from it is Brantz.

I just don't feel like my presence is actively needed. Not with the current players talking about the players they're currently talking about, anyway. If anything of interest comes up, I'll engage them a little bit, but otherwise, I'm fairly content where I am right now. I have reads. I have reasons. They're decently good. And for where we are in the game right now, that is good enough for me.

This sums up my view perfectly - I just don't feel the need to post right now.

Yeah ya do. You're rapidly becoming one of my people of interest because I know you can town, and I know *precisely* what one thing has made you look that way to me in the past, or rather what I think your playstyle is based on admittedly one game, and that is not even remotely here right now.

It's hard to put my finger on, but it feels faked. It feels like.... Like scum have daychat and are using it to pretend to do this thing, but actually, there's an easy way to clear this up.

@mod assuming someone would require non-posting for the rest of the day to complete a gambit they had discussed elsewhere or possibly with you, would you consent to not prod that person for the remainder of the day? This is purely a hypothetical game-rules question

Bad scum? Heck no.

...And there's your answer.

I don't like this answer either. I get the feeling mastin's not trying to figure TD's alignment out (i.e. her read is fake).

That's just Mastin though. Remember Tales of you?

Yes, I remember - unfortunately. I'm not sure on her alignment yet; just commenting on things bothering me. The biggest thing is that mastin dropped massive town-tells in Sabotage, so I'm not convinced she's as hard to read as she was back then. Of course, her meta is similar on a superficial level, but this feels different.

A bit, maybe. I think she is still disengaged.

Vezok is town as fuck because because 411, 463, and 472 aren't posts I can see scum making in this situation. They're too easy to jump on.

This is almost exactly how I felt about Vezok so far.

Starting to think Farside might be scum. I don't really see any progression coming from her interactions and some of her posts are just filler comments like asking that Hydras sign.

Me too kinda, but I also think I may need to consider her a player who acts opposite my expectations (what little I've seen of town farside is just not how I think at all).

I don't realllly think thats explicitly scummy of him though? I think its just F16 going overboard with what it is he does, so null. :S. Copout reads ahoy!

noting this for later in this post

What makes you think that scum already know the neighborhoods?

Considering that scum probably do have a fairly good idea of what the neighborhoods are by being in them, this post seems pretty town for not realizing that. Ya ya he could be faking it, but I don't feel like he is here. If this is multiball I'd have to reconsider this.

I can agree with this. Took me a second to arrive at the multiball conclusion, but yeah. This analysis is more than skin deep.

Yeah, AP is scum. The whole manipulate Tammy routine is the exact same shit he pulled in Tales.

Yeah so... what the hell part of 1037 did you get this from? You also accuse him of trying to drive a wedge between you and ffery (I assume pertaining to the thing I noted??) but I don't see how that's happening like at all? What am I missing?

like really can you go cry about the fact I got you lynched before somewhere else, no-one in the thread gives a fuck.

Cry moar. The entire game you've been posting absolute bullshit. My post was completely warranted by your posts in this game alone.

You're clearly determined to hate on TSO and doing it continuously and on purpose. This isn't true.

There's no way AP's last post comes from town. As soon as I convince Ffery that he's scum and vote him, I'll make my case. We're lynching AP today.

It doesn't??????????

Also, everyone notice that AP and Ffery played with each other quite a bit and even hydra with each other. Him not trying to read Ffery and only nitpicking my posts means he believes he needs Ffery on his side and as long as that happens and we're divided, we won't be effective at lynching him.

Still not seeing how he did this, please show me.

[snip]

So I expected this to be a case, and then most of it wasn't even you calling AP scummy, so I am still baffled.

Yeah, AP is scum. The whole manipulate Tammy routine is the exact same shit he pulled in Tales.

AP's posting is not giving me a read. I don't know

why

it isn't. Normally, I can get a read on him, town or scum, right or on the rare occasion wrong, doesn't matter; I can actually get a read on him. I don't know if it's me or him, but for some reason...I can't see it either way right now. His posting's null.

...

That being said

,

were

I to assign an alignment to him FROM THAT POST alone, gun to my head, I'd select town; there MAY be a marker or two that I found vaguely suggesting potential town thought, but nothing that he can't do as scum. So please hold. Trust me, AP will get read. Just give me some time to get it done.

I kinda feel this way too. Aside from the long term confidence in my read obviously. But there's a lot of words in these catchup posts, and there are definitely things that feel like thoughts, a few town twinges here and there for me, but nothing that wouldn't be super easy to fake and nothing scummy either.

I did have ooba and TD as people of interest. I just haven't updated my list since then.

In this at least, we are on the same page.

farside's a strong townread; won't be lynching there.

Help me help you.

I got prodded.

I don't really know waht to do. I feel overwhelmed with all this.

All i can really say now is that i'm adding fourtrouble to my townread list.


And i'm really not a fan of AP right now (sorry friend. i like you)

I think we have enough of that already in this game. In some cases minus the active. :/

It took a lot of will on my end to get myself involved in this game and I've gotten nothing but shotdown since I've been here. People can live without me.

Also tell F16 to shut the fuck up about Tales already. For someone who cares about "the whole picture" he sure can't stop talking about that one game.

Can I reach back into the past and give you a hug here? Hug.

[Cephrir]

While everything is still fresh for me (p. 45):

I currently am townreading: FT, Imperium, Solar <--- I'm not planning on revisiting these for a fairly long time. I fully expect the game to arrange itself so that I never need to. Chances of them and me all not being shot are pretty slim.

Further townreads: Bitmap, Xombie, Metal Sonic, Rach, beastcharizard (don't ask b/c I'm not sure)

Somewhere in the middle (these ones aren't in order) are AP, Mastin, Brantz, Blonde, ZZZX, PV, farside, Mask, Ank, TSO, vezok, Vyse.

Somewhat icky people include House, ooba, ace, TD.

[Solar Wind]

@ Ceph, why exactly do you want to hug AP?

[The Mask]

When I get off work, I will read your crap and lose more brain cells.

[Cephrir]

Spoiler: Cephrir burns and pillages the village and brings home the plunder

AP/FT/Faraday/Xombie I want mastin opinions, go.

Absolute last person we would want to lynch today.
Scumhunting god and all.
Pretty sure she's town.

Your thoughts?

Can you explain the mastin town read to me? She is very null in my view with everything she has said thus far.

The entrance of mastin alone read town to me. I may have a soft-spot for people who make me lol irl, tho.

Mastin, you're voting someone that Nacho and I are both reading as town. :/

My read's not changing, but alright, as long as you realize I get MASSIVE "I told you so" rights postgame if I'm right.

That was one of the main posts that gave me the townread, aside from her carefree posting and

super secret neighborhood stuff

.

Oh. Ooooooooooh.

The puzzle pieces are fitting together. Townpoints for Mastin, I doubt she's intentionally running this bit solely because it's reminiscent of Inuyasha.

Trying to get yourself out of it vezo?

VOTE: vezokpiraka

You are a strange, silly person. I hope your replacement brings us sense.

Fuck this game. If you need me, I'll be active lurking.

I think we have enough of that already in this game. In some cases minus the active. :/

It took a lot of will on my end to get myself involved in this game and I've gotten nothing but shotdown since I've been here. People can live without me.

Also tell F16 to shut the fuck up about Tales already. For someone who cares about "the whole picture" he sure can't stop talking about that one game.

I threw her a fairly big bone and she is going around ignoring my reads and saying she has nothing on me. As far as I care, she is. Now I'll admit I've done similarly before, but

1) this isn't about mastin specifically
2) She owed me something after previously implying that me being away was scummy

This sequence is incredibly scummy.

I dislike the first post, and the last sentence of the third post. More because they don't strike me as terribly AP-like, than because they are inherently scummy. Second one seems genuine though.

And its town because Im town this game.

It's the little things that make the difference.

This statement means absolutely nothing in regards to AP's alignment.

It does, however, betray his alignment off of tone:























AP is town. Decently certain of it.
(Did I nearly give you a heart attack, AP? )

I reread the quoted sentence more times than I care to admit until I could make myself feel like I saw what you saw.

I don't think the fact I was eventually able to stick myself forcefully into your head should count as much of anything in terms of my actual read, but it was a fun experiment.

VOTE: iHouse

not a naked vote since I typed this.

You're a card! No seriously though this is mildly town (context: beast was recently saying naked votes are scummy)

Vote Tiphaine

I'm gonna give Ceph a chance to catch up, but I'm pretty sure he's scum.

I realize how innately silly it is for me to have a go at this, but she clearly just never even read the game.

I'm very confident that F-16 is town.

Vote Tiphaine

I hate to take pressure off vezok but this needs to happen. Still waiting for a response to my question.

Vote Tiphaine

I'm gonna give Ceph a chance to catch up, but I'm pretty sure he's scum.

This is interesting. 'I know I was voting X - but now I'm going to vote Y - but I haven't forgotten about X'.

Scum have a mental map of their current *reads* as it appears on thread at any time. It feels like you're trying to preempt any 'Why did you forget about mantis\vezo?' statements even before someone asks.

Also, the fact that we're opposed on some critical reads {TD, Brantz, AP} on scum\town ping my scumdar.

Unvote. Vote: FourTrouble

Where is the ooba I saw so long ago?

Sweet. Ceph, if you are town, obvtown up your slot quickly and we'll steamroll the scum.

Cephrir's gonna obvtown his slot up his alignment regardless. It's the "steamroll the scum" bit you have to look out for--because if there's a conflict of interest......

Tee hee.

I swear, someday I'm going to townread you instinctively just for all the ego stroking you give me and be terribly wrong. But I don't think today is that day.

[the post with the spoilers about FT, which I am snipping because you can't put spoilers in spoilers]

That sequence mostly just makes you look scummy to me. I have no idea what you are trying to do here.

FT's not getting lynched because he's town but thanks for attacking him that was incredibly transparently town so now I feel better about the townread on you and can focus on other people (@iHouse).

It was?!?

[Cephrir]

@ Ceph, why exactly do you want to hug AP?

Because angst