Mini 1636: Mafialand Mayhem! - [Game Over]

[curiouskarmadog]

RE: Lapsa/Katie, if two people are equally scummy, it makes more sense to wait than to vote right away and have to change your vote later.

RE: Katie being defensive and emotional, pretty much every post she has made. She is far too self aware to be town, in my opinion.

RE Scumhunting, I think I've pretty much nailed down Lapsa and Katie as scum, I'm not sure what more scumhunting I need to do in day 1.

give me an example post (dont say every post) where you think Katie is being defensive (and clearly scummy).

[MonkeyMan576]

Scum lie all the time, just because they claim to not know the vote count doesn't mean they don't know it.

I wouldn't be that sure about that. They might not care if none of them are wagoned, for example.
It seems that you're back to producing theoretical posts... why ?

What's wrong with theoretical posts? It gives you insight into players thought processes.

give me an example post (dont say every post) where you think Katie is being defensive (and clearly scummy).

I mean, he voted Lapsa for 'fluffposting more than Anen' and 'poorly justifying his vote on Anen' which happened before Anen had even posted, and was pretty clearly a RVS vote. Even if Lapsa had done any of the things Luca was talking about, none of them would be alignment indicative.

He's scumreading me for calling Lapsa probtown, but dollars to doughnuts if I hadn't clarified that my feelings are as strong as p5 allows, he'd be scumreading me for having feelings too strong for day 1.

He's scumreading me for not hopping to answer him (which is not indicative of scum), scumreading me for a misunderstanding of my feelings on my suspects (even if his thoughts were accurate, this would not be indicative of scum), for 'not making any sense' (which is not indicative of scum), and for being dismissive of his reasons for scumreading me (which he hasn't yet presented.)

Pretty obviously scum looking for a day1 mislynch that involves a lot of words but not reasons. As soon as everyone has posted, I'd be glad to turbolynch him.

p-edit: but not having any reasons for scumreading me totally doesn't make his vote OMGUS. Totally.

[Aneninen]

wait arent you voting Monkeyman too? if Monkeyman flips town, this post gets scum points.

Elaborate, please. Why would I get "scum points"? Why not Lapsa?

you are attacking him for his vote

No, I was attacking him for the

context

of his vote.

(1) If you don't wait, then you just get accused of vote hopping. Voting isn't the only way to apply pressue, after all.
(2) Why do you say that regarding scum-Sthar/Kate?
(3) I am observing everyone. I think I've said who I think are town.

(1) Ugh. Townies

need not

work on looking town. F-ckthysshyt.
(2) I've seen both town-Sthar and scum-Sthar before. I simply doubt that Sthar would create an alt so as to perform such a gameplay as scum.
(3) Good. But you've just contradicted your previous post.

[Luca Blight]

The purpose was to point out that it wasn't L-1, obviously.

okay we can take it slow if you need to. What was the purpose of pointing it out?

The purpose of pointing out it wasn't L-1 was that it wasn't L-1.

Incorrect information was put forth and I corrected it.

Why would scum:

a) Do that one day 1, thus incriminating themselves in the process
b) Hammer without checking the vote count first?

At what point would it have been acceptable to point out it isn't actually L-1?

who knows? but you didnt give anybody a chance to do so. but a quick hammer was not the only thing that could have been gleaned from people thinking it was -1.

never? let the mod post the vote count.

What else could have been gleaned from some people wrongly thinking it was L-1?

What if scum realised it wasn't L-1 but noticed some believed it was? Do you think they could have manipulated that to their advantage?

[MonkeyMan576]

(1) That's not true at all, town get misrepped all the time, like right now.
(2) No one said that Katie alt-posted on purpose.
(3) I'm not sure what you mean.

[Lapsa]

Monkey

why do you ignore

DoucheDog

?

[MonkeyMan576]

I didn't ignore him, I gave a post like he asked. You abviously have no intention of improving your posting.

Vote: Lapsa

[Lapsa]

I didn't ignore him, I gave a post like he asked. You abviously have no intention of improving your posting.

Vote: Lapsa

@Monkey

why are you vote hopping?

[MonkeyMan576]

Because you're scum.

[Lapsa]

Scum lie all the time, just because they claim to not know the vote count doesn't mean they don't know it.

wait arent you voting Monkeyman too? if Monkeyman flips town, this post gets scum points.

Elaborate, please. Why would I get "scum points"? Why not Lapsa?

you are attacking him for his vote

No, I was attacking him for the

context

of his vote.

(1) If you don't wait, then you just get accused of vote hopping. Voting isn't the only way to apply pressue, after all.
(2) Why do you say that regarding scum-Sthar/Kate?
(3) I am observing everyone. I think I've said who I think are town.

(1) Ugh. Townies

need not

work on looking town. F-ckthysshyt.
(2) I've seen both town-Sthar and scum-Sthar before. I simply doubt that Sthar would create an alt so as to perform such a gameplay as scum.
(3) Good. But you've just contradicted your previous post.

wait arent you voting Monkeyman too? if Monkeyman flips town, this post gets scum points.

Elaborate, please. Why would I get "scum points"? Why not Lapsa?

you are attacking him for his vote

I like

Monkey's

fluency of thought.
Will unvote for now.

vote: MonkeyMan576

????!!
Just why, Lapsa, why?!?
Keep producing shytty posts and shytty context for your votes and you're get lynched because of them. Possible scum or possible useless townie, that's my read on you right now.

(Reading the latest posts thoroughly and answering them will happen later; need to go to work right now.)

wait arent you voting Monkeyman too? if Monkeyman flips town, this post gets scum points.

He is voting someone that you supposedly think is scum...why attack him on his vote? what was the motivation behind it. IF MM is scum, was his vote bad?

I didn't ignore him, I gave a post like he asked. You abviously have no intention of improving your posting.

Vote: Lapsa

I didn't ignore him, I gave a post like he asked. You abviously have no intention of improving your posting.

Vote: Lapsa

@Monkey

why are you vote hopping?

@Monkey

and what's your case on me?

[Lapsa]

quick reply sucks

[MonkeyMan576]

Wholly less sucky than your posting.

[Lapsa]

Wholly less sucky than your posting.

no need for insults. we are all civilized here

@Monkey

what's your case on me?

[Lapsa]

Almost forgot: youtube link

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if X thought MM was at -1, and hammered (out of no where) thinking it was indeed the hammer....that would have said a lot.

now quit being a dick, and answer the fucking question.

In case Luca's second attempt at explaining things to you didn't work, let me try as well. Assuming everyone is as dumb at counting as you are does not actually make it so. Dispelling confusion is helpful and helps the town. Deliberately lying and sowing confusion only helps the scum. Why in the world would you lie and try to have an accidental lynch?

If I had a second vote, I'd throw it at you.

Really now? there is a big fucking difference in letting people believe something AND lying. explain to me exactly how I was trying to have an accidental lynch? if MM was at -2, where was the accidental lynch? If others thought MM was at -1, it would be interesting to see what people did. and hey asshole, i never said anyone was at -1 did I?

So explain to me the scum motivation behind letting people think someone is at -1? What EXACTLY did I do that was scummy, other than ask Luca why he said something?

I will not argue technicalities with you. Over multiple posts, you have expressed a desire to see a deception imposed upon the town. This is scummy. You have harangued and harassed Luca because he acted in a manner befitting a non-wacko town-aligned person. This is scummy.
By the by, being a douche is nothing to brag about in your signature. It's not a feature, it's a bug.

I am calling bullshit on the suspicion.

I was being sincere.

Vote: curiouskarmadog

[MonkeyMan576]

You're not interested in posting content, You are interested in posting bad/misleading/provocing posts.

[MonkeyMan576]

@Lapsa also you apparently have a post restriction that you're not keeping. Plus this is a mini normal and I don't think post restrictions are allowed.

[llll]

I don't mind so much anymore. It's like having a personal DJ, for free!

[llll]

Certainly beats DoucheDog ranting about dicks and assholes. This isn't

Team America: World Police

.

[Lapsa]

@Lapsa also you apparently have a post restriction that you're not keeping. Plus this is a mini normal and I don't think post restrictions are allowed.

Monkey

what's a post restriction?

[MonkeyMan576]

@Lapsa also you apparently have a post restriction that you're not keeping. Plus this is a mini normal and I don't think post restrictions are allowed.

Monkey

what's a post restriction?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... estriction

[Lapsa]

Monkey

do i have it or not? is there a cure?

[MonkeyMan576]

I wouldn't know, I don't have access to your role pm. But you're acting like you have a post restriction, which should not be allowed in mini normals, and no, if you did have one unfortunately there is no cure.

[Lapsa]

I wouldn't know, I don't have access to your role pm. But you're acting like you have a post restriction, which should not be allowed in mini normals, and no, if you did have one unfortunately there is no cure.

Monkey

what kind of post restriction you suspect there is and why?

[MonkeyMan576]

Posting youtube videos, making comments about avatars, how should I know?