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[Albert B. Rampage]

For the night is dark and full of terror.

[Albert B. Rampage]

whoa, nachomamma is in this game! nice!

Vote: southern Gothic

[Albert B. Rampage]

Southern Gothic is already an annoyance, so yeah. Vote vote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why not?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't remember either of you in the hydra. I find the hydra's posts annoying so far in this game.

I really have no recollection of playing either one of you and your names don't ring any bells.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This mollie person has done nothing of significance in mafiascum history.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The player list is actually quite good.

I don't remember Flame, Andrius, Victor, or FourTrouble, but everyone else is very cool in my books. Farside seems to get hotheaded lately which is concerning, but besides that, I'm as excited about the player list as anyone.

[Albert B. Rampage]

you replaced out cos there was a hydra in the game and you dislike hydras.

I dislike hydras in general, but the Jingle hydra is alright. I like Jingle. I don't like your posts though.

I just lost a micros by removing 1 of my good friends!

You removed one of your good friends from your privileged circle, which resulted in you losing the micro game you were playing? What?

[Albert B. Rampage]

pirate mollie when I talk to you I feel like I'm speaking to a child. Are you an adult?

[Albert B. Rampage]

OK I thought so. You're indifferentiable to zwet to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Take note, Iecerint and Nacho are historically some of my closest allies and favorite players, and Pine has quickly reached the same status in the few games I've been with him this year.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Votes you can depend on. Consistent posting schedule. Relatable point of view. You're good soldiers.

[Albert B. Rampage]

He's being all conciliatory and diplomatic and...nice

I'm nice.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Gentlemen, let's be reasonable. Voting for me for being complimentary and expressing my approval of you is like feeding your dog when he's begging for food while you're eating. You're not reinforcing the behavior you want to elicit here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

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You know what I found surprising, Fate was the most bratty little immature munchkin online, but you meet him in person and he's this tall dashing surface dweller all tan and radiating confidence and adventure. I was shocked.

When scummers met me in person, a few of them said that they always imagined me writing posts with an easy smile or grin from then on, because I seemed like a happy, slightly mocking guy, type of person who wouldn't judge or bully you. The kind to let the anger wash over quickly, not to let it stew and simmer.

It's all in the writing. Hard to picture someone's age, character and temperament from their writing.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nacho's become weirder.

[Albert B. Rampage]

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I was being facetious. Come now, let's vote out the southern gothic abomination.

[Albert B. Rampage]

SG - do you prefer to play as a hydra than individually? And why?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well, for me, if a game adds more pressure to me than I derive enjoyment from it, I'll give someone else the chance to play my slot who can enjoy themselves. I can tell you right now I have no intention of replacing out in this game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mollie: Tell TTH to get her butt in here and see what she thinks thus far please.

Still like my vote so far.

Why? There are other unexplained votes besides FourTrouble.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: four trouble

You want to explain why you voted without making any other comment.

This is your orignal reason.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Did you previously run into a major conflict with farside?

[Albert B. Rampage]

pirate hydra looks somewhat like self-justified town.

Unvote, vote Pine

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pine, I'd hate for you to be scum this game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

FourTrouble looks like town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're scum, Pine, aren't you. smh.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@ albert

why are you ignoring the who people?

The signatures are annoying. I don't like them already.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not a good scum player, you give me too much credit.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Is he town, or does he just appear to be so?
Your word choice left it open to doubt. I want to understand you.

I certainly think that he's town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Don't worry, it's a fakeclaim. I'm town. No idea what he's talking about.

[Albert B. Rampage]

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote

What are you going to do after I flip town? Use your second daycop?

[Albert B. Rampage]

From what I can tell, the main thing to glean from my interaction with Pine I think is that I am probably town if ABR is scum.

Vote: Iecerint

This is terrible.

And Pine, you fail.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, of all people, following that, especially after WhoHydra's previous vote, is particularly ludicrous.

Haha yes you're right.

Unvote, vote Pine

[Albert B. Rampage]

This does not match what you said earlier about it being a fake claim.

I was sarcastic. I'll iso Andrius when I have time.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Call me crazy, but Pine's gambit actually makes me think he's less likely to be scum.

Unvote, vote Konowa

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's alright, the important players are still here lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Andrius

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also interested in why there's an Andrius wagon. I'll have to look into that.

There isn't much, besides who he thinks is town. I don't like those reads he's given, personally.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You raise good points. I like this wagon more and more. I miss playing with you Iecerint

PM me if you sign up for another game, k?

[Albert B. Rampage]

The scum are All is Who/Andrius/(Konowa or Southern Gothic). I said it here first.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The half-baked attempts at shifting attention away from Andrius and to me are disappointing.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're right...PeregrineV instead of Souther Gothic.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm still paranoid about you and Pine being scum. It's a recurring theme in my games to always be backstabbed by the ones I want to trust.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What makes you think it's one of SG + Who?

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's a disconnect between #321, #332 and #378. I don't follow the leap.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Iec Thanks.

@Who Praise tell me who the unsafe targets are.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're suspicious of ME?

[Albert B. Rampage]

If you want, we can do this right now, Iecerint. Don't be afraid.

[Albert B. Rampage]

farside is 5 years old?

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's the first bandwagon of the game, of course we have to pile some votes on someone.

Unvote, vote All_is_Who

Much more sure of this now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You can both vote for me and then we'll see what happens.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Not a threat or a soft claim or none of that, just vote for me, we'll have a serious first bandwagon, and then we'll see what happens. How about it, fellas?

[Albert B. Rampage]

1) Buddying isn't a scumtell.

Oh, it matters because you're going to drop the line of reasoning as soon as anything bad for you comes of it. If he actually thought Nacho being weird as town was relevant to the game, he wouldn't have dropped it so easily. If he actually thought it wasn't as town, why bring it up in the first place. He's scum.

2) Nacho is weird because of his shades quotes, not because of his play.

Hmmm. No reason, no rhyme, and a mediocre at best reason for mollie/tth town, that mitigates their reads. They're not town because they're doing town things or thinking town reasons, note, but just that they're "self-justified" which is just so much nonsense. But good try.

3) This is just silly and scummy.

You don't like us, so you ignore us. Not pressure us, not think we're scum. Did it occur to you we may have started our gimmick because it made people less likely to interact with us? (We didn't but it was a little bit helpful last game as scum.)

4) My dislike of you was unrelated to your alignment. See Nacho.

I could go on but I'm tired of your scumposting.

[Albert B. Rampage]

TL;DR another surface level scum case with such logic wow amaze quotes.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Gentlemen, let's be reasonable. Voting for me for being complimentary and expressing my approval of you is like feeding your dog when he's begging for food while you're eating. You're not reinforcing the behavior you want to elicit here.

This by the way made me giggle when taken in context with the flavor. It's a scumclaim. (I know it's not actually a scumclaim, but he's our dog and he's begging for food.)

Now you're just getting cute on me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

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OK we'll see who has the last laugh after we lynch you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'll request a "hydra scum slayer" title after I take your heads.

[Albert B. Rampage]

4. And I'm sure your OMGUS of me was unrelated to yours. Was the fact you made no attempts to read me also unrelated to my alignment?

The annoyance at you was directed at your signatures; not alignment indicative. Your white knighting of Andrius and foolhardy attack on me is alignment indicative.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Don't worry, I'll nom you for Scum Hydra slayer if you take our heads.

I mean, we both know you're scum, so yeah, that would be kind.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Tough luck, Who, I'm not getting lynched today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Which head are you?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You think it's Iecerint?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not following, farside. Executive summary?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Iecerint link me to your most recent scum game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Victor, are you going to finish your read today?

[Albert B. Rampage]

What do you think of Victor and All is Who?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Does ABR seem like someone trying to figure players out?
Does FourTrouble seem like someone trying to figure players out?
Does Nacho seem like someone trying to figure players out?

You're apparently townreading Nacho according to your list. Why did you add him to me and FourTrouble who you read as scum?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not making sense of it, no.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Comparative reasons?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do we really need to wait or can we just hammer Titus.

[Albert B. Rampage]

wrong game lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not going to vote for FourTrouble today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus are you going to be fully caught up soon?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nope.

Unvote, vote Andrius

[Albert B. Rampage]

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Andrius is the better lynch, Iecerint.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Look. Andrius reads are what scum would have you believe they think. FourTrouble, me, and Peregrine. Take a peek at that list. I'm already under fire by Who and Icerint. Peregrine has been absent. And FourTrouble is already under fire too. No, I just don't buy it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Andrius is benefiting from being the first serious wagon of the day as in "it couldn't possibly be the first guy we run up". Then everyone that voted Andrius besides Iecerint is under scrutiny, and for what? Can someone explain to me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who would you lynch besides Andrius?

Who? Who. That's who.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If you want to make an easy lynch look no further than me Perev and FourTrouble today. We've got rewards on our heads, that's clear enough. Scum are going to have a real nice time then.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm under more scrutiny than farside I think. YMMV I guess.

Flame requested replacement so no.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who had farside as scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

pirate, why

[Albert B. Rampage]

I like Gilgamesh for town btw.

[Albert B. Rampage]

New idea.

Unvote, vote Victor

Four, gogo.

[Albert B. Rampage]

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Victor has produced nothing all day and we won't miss him. We can't let that slot live deep into the game, we all know that. Four is steadily contributing and we can analyze his thoughts as event progress in the game. Let’s lynch Victor instead, surely nobody could deny he’s useless.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Peregrine, farside, SG, gogogo.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why is Pere a town read?

If Pere were scum, let me quote you exactly what he would not have posted as soon as the wind was blowing against me:

VIII. Albert B. Rampage
XI. Pine
Strong tendency to read as scum every game. Usually wrong, as the odds have it, but that doesn't make me not do it.
Somewhat gut, not feeling ABR scum. When we day1 lynched him in the Magic mafia, I was feeling he was town by day's end, but it took a while to get there. Would like to see more of play like that, but like I said so far, gut read for now.

Why would he close the door for my mislynch instead of being consistent with his town paranoia of me? He would have either been all over me as soon as Who made a push in my direction, or he would have let things play out and either run up somebody else or wait until a deadline lynch on me was viable. I don't think Pere is scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Victor is the best lynch for today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not going to vote for Who today. I'll switch my vote to Andrius if nothing happens from here until tomorrow to change my mind.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey, ABR can you explain why your voting me?

Why aren't you voting?

Unvote, vote Andrius

[Albert B. Rampage]

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FourTrouble is trying too hard to prove that he's town that I believe him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My gut says Who is town. We need to lynch Andrius. Now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

FourTrouble and Who aren't good lynches. Everyone needs to switch to Andrius in the next few hours please.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Victor and Titus votes are scummy as anything I've ever seen. I have a real bad feeling.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Despite everyone giving Andrius a free pass, I still think he's scummy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's like he has lynch immunity from being the first bandwagon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not going to.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What are your thoughts on each player, Titus?

[Albert B. Rampage]

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Who are your scumreads, who are your townreads? Why are you against providing content pre-flip?

[Albert B. Rampage]

At least just make a list.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm trying to see your motivation for your votes and coming up short.

[Albert B. Rampage]

farside you're going to be around all day?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Is anyone around??

[Albert B. Rampage]

If FT was a PR he would have claimed a long time ago. I'll bury this in 30min if he doesn't come post.

[Albert B. Rampage]

How does that affect how you read his slot?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: FourTrouble

[Albert B. Rampage]

I waited to see if you were going to express any kind of read of FT. Now that he's hammered, nice comment about how you're not happy about his lynch, daftly done, Titus.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well at least you're consistent.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Good job Iecerint and Nacho!

Vote: SG

[Albert B. Rampage]

The claim cane out with close to zero pressure, reeks of nervous scum, they claimed they tracked Pine of all players, not Victor or Who or Amdrius, and the claim flavor is Food the Tracker? It's like we're getting close and scum is falling apart.

[Albert B. Rampage]

the speed of the wagon gives me a bad feeling,

The traction the wagon gained based on a very specific and personal dynamic between Nacho and mollie and the inclusion of an excessive "the" in the claim is indeed odd. And I think Iec and Pine are the most likely scum taking advantage of it.

This is highly unlikely.

Victor dodging the question about Southern Gothic sounds like a scumbuddy waffling when they're not sure if their buddy is a sinking ship

Victor's posts sound completely plastic, and as soon as SG panicked and got run up, his reactions were the opposite of pro-town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Andrius, do you have Food in your role flavor? Yes or no.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The sample PMs don't have any mention of "Food" in the names, only the two flipped VTs. Food Tracker doesn't seem congruent.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I checked again. Strawberry Food.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The other two roles also weren't town aligned.

Ah, right. Anyway, waiting on Andrius.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I thought that the blue sample PMs were what PR role pms would look like.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes.
The sample PMs should be taken with salt - the notion of 'Strawberry Food' is misleading and can cause misconceptions. I, for one, was confused and thought Food meant food as in foodstuff, not Food with a capital letter denoting us humans.

Food Tracker is the problem since we are not sure if Food modifies the role itself or modifies who it Tracks. We would have that problem with say, Food Cop - do they investigate Food or are they a Food-aligned Cop.

I think we might be looking into it too much.

We might be looking at a mod provided fakeclaim, but it didn't look that way with the Tracker of Food claim, more likely something made up on the spot or even the actual werewolf role PM.

ABR, don't you have your own role to refer to?
I'm more than happy to share, but you went straight to the Sample PMs first.

I know what my role is and have kept it in mind. I expected a tracker role name to look more like the cat or the mod one.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Therefore, I was surprised to see "Food Tracker" be the claim, as its structure is Food + [classic role name].

So your role name is more along the lines of the two sample pms below Strawberry Food, right?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Can you link me your game with Victor?

[Albert B. Rampage]

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Nacho, what are your thoughts on Titus?

[Albert B. Rampage]

What?

[Albert B. Rampage]

What?

Do you think soft claiming roles and giving town reads is a good idea?

No, I think it gives scum information to manipulate night actions in their favor.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Farside seems consistent with her previous posts to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pine, are you a neighbor?

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's been twice in two days that you said you have town reads on Who and Andrius and you don't want to say why.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You look like you're making things up as you go.

[Albert B. Rampage]

At you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus full claim please. The thing sticking out the most to me right now is that Titus was the only one to say that SGs flavor was congruent to hers when SG was getting votes.

[Albert B. Rampage]

btw I'm heavily medicated and in a lot of pain. I can't analyze too deeply until I'm healthy. L/A

[Albert B. Rampage]

Andrius can vote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not sure. Weren't you a PR though?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I looked up TS in wiki said cant vote so idk

[Albert B. Rampage]

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Nacho how come you didn't poison SG night 1?
p.edit

Vote: Titus

[Albert B. Rampage]

I see. Who did you target last night then? You should probably just tell us who's confirmed town, Nacho loverizes the non-confirmed, Andrius, farside, you and Nacho are already cleared, I think we got this one POE'd

[Albert B. Rampage]

Basically I think Who and Peregrine should be loverized, unless you cleared one of them, then it should be farside and non-cleared, and then we win tomorrow.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If Andrius was scum, making him a tree takes away his scum win condition?

Unvote

[Albert B. Rampage]

Are you OK with loverizing Who/Pere then?

[Albert B. Rampage]

k add me on hs

[Albert B. Rampage]

I unvoted

Fixed.

[Albert B. Rampage]

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Titus game plan is always to attack me whatever alignment he is, some things never change lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus have you ever townread me, in any game at all?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah but if Iecerint got a message saying he was intimidated by wolves, why would Titus then claim the RB on him? That's bad play. I don't see the mod not warning the werewolves of what the action will imply to whoever is being RB'd.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Was your PT with Pine open yesterday?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm Food. It's obvious from my interaction with SG.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why didn't Pine bodyguard you night 1? He claimed not to target anyone, why wouldn't he target his mason buddy?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm a one-shot tattler. I can open a neighborhood with someone at night to talk to them.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This is over. Tired of getting grouped with scum like Victor in every game. Good game, I give up again. Exact same thing as http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=59714 Advance Wars, I can't do it without a group that is able to survive and persuade.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Every game is seriously making it a point to turn the roles against my favor, there's not a chance anyone can pull this off. And check our fakeclaims. Neighborizer, and miller. Fantastic lol

There's no chance for scum to win this setup at all in my position.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I hate playing scum. I'm not good at it. I always get grouped with scum that gets lynched day 1 and obvious scum lurker and the town all magically confirm each other through behavioral and role information. It's ridiculous lol

Well played, though, especially Nacho, farside and Iecerint.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sorry, that get lynched Day 2. Day 2. My bad.

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Roles are completely broken and distributed to the 3 weakest scum players besides day 1 lynchbait, exactly like in Advance Wars. I think mods are just toying with me at this point.

Your vote isn't necessary, I already forfeited the game to the mod.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Masons? AND a bodyguard? AND Nacho has a poison he used on my scum partner? AND he can loverize? AND Andrius is confirmed town? AND Iecerint can confirm people as town and he's obviously town? Like the last one doesn't even have to be true. Farside doesn't even have to have a power. It's already gg way, way before that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who am I even talking to, Jingle?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I mean, skim this: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=59714

0% chance to win. They had practically confirmed every player in that game through their powers, and neibhorized all those they knew were town through obvious townreads.

But when I play town, everyone's lurking, town's self-voting, rush voting at LYLO, town is tunnelling on me, nothing going on at all. It's really irritating to be someone who shares an alignment with me, because I can't win these games.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Or this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=60054

Or this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=59430

I'm continuously placed in unwinnable situations.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Me SG and Victor.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus is town dude.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And let me tell you, Victor was the most unhelpful scum partner I've ever had in my life. And he's not the one who basically claimed scum at the start of Day 2. SG really dropped the ball there.

There's a secret rule in mafia, that when the conftowns make up a majority, the scum automatically lose.

[Albert B. Rampage]

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You take a role like Nacho's, there's literally no way that role can be scum. Even if the guy is bluffing, he will never be lynched because he somehow divined pirate was scum.

Iecerint can apparently confirm people? What did your role do and who did you confirm? That's crazy.

Then two masons who can bodyguard and Andrius who came out to be conftown through our NK, making a third mason.

I already forfeited so whatever just tell me what you did.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What did you do N1?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Iec

[Albert B. Rampage]

Dude the game is over just satisfy my curiosity.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I can't handle 4 games in a row being placed into the same situation as scum. I'm not doing terribly in any of these games, but I ain't gonna win either, guaranteed. Sometimes I sit in these graveyards and there's a cop that claimed, a unclaimed but confirmed doc, and they are just going through the motions and POE'ing everything no matter what the last scum does and I just could not care less about this situation. I replaced out once, and scum got lynched that same day, then killed on the night, and then killed the next day. I'm not putting someone replacing in, into that situation again. I had to suffer to that twice, and 3 times here, and I don't wish it on anyone.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Games I were in used to mean more than just who gets what role and the setup. I'm on a crazy loss streak and it's not worth playing mafia anymore with the RNG and setup as it is.

[Albert B. Rampage]

if you wont accept my forfeit then I formally withdraw from this game. Goodbye

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Titus and farside : very easy to single out scum when everyone can get POE'd out of the picture (Andrius, Nacho, Iec, Who, Pine) not difficult at all.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: ABR

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus you're a bad player overall who's sole strategy is to attack me as either alignment.

[Albert B. Rampage]

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I guarantee you would lose with no chance of winning in my shoes.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think it was swingy too. If you randomized the role allocation again, I'm sure it would be fine, but the scum team was weak. I hate playing scum and my partners didn't seem to have any interest in it either.

[Albert B. Rampage]

farside if I was you and you were me, I'd also easily catch you due to POE on Day 3.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I see it like a chess game. If it's mate in 4 moves, you tip your king over and concede. Playing it out is a waste of everyone's time.

[Albert B. Rampage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79XSwwXP368

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus, the fact that you even need to respond to that is pathetic, go see yourself out whenever you're ready.

[Albert B. Rampage]

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Titus, the fact that you even need to respond to that is pathetic, go see yourself out whenever you're ready.

Look, you have every right to be frustrated but don't act like I cannot scumhunt. Given the amount if bullshit I face every game, I would like people to say good job on catching me rather than insulting me.

You think you did a good job? I saved you from your own impending mislynch because I wouldn't derive any fun from it + Iecerint and farside being too clever by half and stalling, waiting, uncovering every nook and cranny of every possible way that town will unquestioningly and convincingly win the game.

I did a much better job to convince people that I was town than you give me credit for. Unfortunately, without daytalk, my scum buddies lynched FourTrouble who townread me, I tried to kill Andrius and that backfired on Pine who townread me, I mean, I picked out Iecerint as a hider and Pine and Who as masons on Day 1 in the PT, and almost decided to NK Who and it would have been a different game. I'm not saying that the mechanics were broken, but the game was swingy, and that avalanched on Day 3.

Never underestimate the chances of everyone in the town randomly turning into a total fucking idiot. I have been saved by that in several seemingly-hopeless scenarios.

I've no interest in doing that to win with teammates who don't or can't help our common cause.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also a culmination of four straight games where I'm scum where we're all bad scum players, are easily caught through POE, role mechanics, etc., and I have really not any reason to repeat the same experience - extremely fed up. RNG is against me for a longer stretch than usual, okay, forfeit and hit the restart button and try again.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You can't prove that you can read me, because last week you tunneled me into our shared loss, where we could have won. And if I were you in this game, I would also have caught me, easily. Through POE. This was extremely easy to "read" due to how things played out.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I welcome you to try and play a different game with me Titus, and we can see what happens when RNG has let go of me, because you're not a bad player, and I liked the player list besides for Victor, and pirate is a nice person but a huge liability and also fun sucker when she and Nacho can read each other that well, so I wouldn't play with pirate in the same game as nacho again. I had the same problem as scum in another game where like 6 people all from the same area all knew how each other played and were all town and could perfectly read each other so after 48 hours of the first day, it was a POE to lynch scum (+ heavy role mechanics to help them). RNG role allocation really affects the fun factor for me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You saying you deserve credit for catching me in this game for me is the equivalent of if I said I deserve credit for catching you in the MTG large theme (I would never say that though).

[Albert B. Rampage]

If I would have targeted you N1, it would have been a different game too. I had you pegged from that point.

I anticipated that someone would target me with a RB, and had a scumbuddy use an ability that deflected any actions against me to that scumbuddy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well I'm really happy that you guys got your win and I don't have to watch this unfold any further. Sometimes, the more you're winning the more fun you're having, and vice versa.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If I would have targeted you N1, it would have been a different game too. I had you pegged from that point.

I anticipated that someone would target me with a RB, and had a scumbuddy use an ability that deflected any actions against me to that scumbuddy.

But see, if we had a bus driver instead of an ability that retargeted one scumbuddy to another scumbuddy, we'd have the tools necessary to fight the town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@shadowmod Lecture me about listening? How dare you. Pirate never mentionned that Nacho can read her perfectly, and got caught within posts of Day 2. If she had said something, we could have killed Nacho. I won't even mention Victor who purposely went out of his way not to bring anything to the table. I asked for feedback more than once and got nothing.

Both scum partners didn't contribute to night discussion, and I was left doing everything alone. I had the right idea for some things and the wrong one for others, but with communicative scum partners, scum might have had a chance. Why is it scum have daytalk when I'm town and don't when I'm scum? The odds have been stacked against me for most of this year and pardon me while I blow off some steam in retaliation after a year of this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

All our fakeclaims also were in the format "Food ____" which is another weakness of the mod. I guessed that Iecerint's role was Food ___, which made me want to kill Gilg because that's who I thought he'd be hiding behind. It was worth a shot, but a Who hit or Nacho hit would have changed the odds.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And Victor wouldn't explain why Nacho was Desperado. Desperado is a player here. Apparently he meant some kind of killing role. I asked and asked and the guy just wouldn't be communicative.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If Victor had said, NACHO IS A POISONER, I would have said OK LETS KILL HIM. Instead he brings up Desperado and runs off, doesn't respond to explanation requests, what is wrong with this guy.

zero points

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah I think shadowmod is just making excuses. He doesn't have to, he seems to have put a lot of thought into the game, was a good active mod, and cared about it. But the fakeclaims were way rushed and not helpful and contributed to a bad scum team falling apart.

[Albert B. Rampage]

don't go after shadowmod or titus cos now you just look like a giant baby. I TOLD you nacho cld read me but you were having none of it, YOU SAID "lets not overthink this" so I shut up cos i just give up when dealing with young egos these days. you will find your own way cos that is how you want it. and the less said the better you might do.

You said that night 0 before the game began. You need to say something like "I think he's on to me" on night 1, perhaps?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also a culmination of four straight games where I'm scum where we're all bad scum players, are easily caught through POE, role mechanics, etc., and I have really not any reason to repeat the same experience - extremely fed up. RNG is against me for a longer stretch than usual, okay, forfeit and hit the restart button and try again.

Having had a string of scum games before, it gets kind of demoralizing. Even when you are doing well as scum in one game, chances are you are or will not in another game. And, it tends to affect your town games as well. One of the overall reasons I cut down on my number of active games, less chance of getting a slew of scum roles.

Yeah, exactly. Less tolerance for letting other people have fun from a certain loss on your part.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fake claims are not required. I won a game with zero fake claims.

In this game, they are required, since every town role is a PR. Our role pm has to fit in with the rest. For example, if I claimed vanilla, it would raise suspicion, since there aren't any vts in the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

OK dude, can't wait to see you play a game and dole out judgment on yourself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You strike me as very unaware of yourself and how you come across, would probably easily be played with by most of the players in this game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If I'm more venomous than usual it's because of health problems in the past few months making me unable to do anything, physical pain I'm in, loss in the family, etc.

I've said many times, I like the overall player list, and I want to get right back in it with you guys.

[Albert B. Rampage]

[Albert B. Rampage]

Gilgamesh was also hilarious and not annoying in any way.