NY 176: Completely Ridiculous Mafia (Game Over)

T S O · Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:17 am

(a bad sign on your efforts, in case you thought otherwise)

T S O · Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:21 am

It would certainly be preferable to being quiet and anonymous and weakly pushing for a lynch in a whisper, yes.

T S O · Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:27 am

I really don't give a fuck - the more you laugh and deride instead of, I don't know, pushing the wagon

you claim to be pushing,

the more your play will ironically mirror that -of -me during d1/d2.

T S O · Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:28 am

In post 2217, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1321, Depraved Justice wrote:Yes. Then you posted that garbage about the Bob wagon.

Mirhawk
Cephir
Reinoe/Bob (at ddeadline for Bob).

That's our list. The last two only have one head scumreading. That is the pool to work in.

Reinoe hasn't done jackshit, our other scumreads started a wagon that forced a deadline claim from us thst countered Reinoe. I already said that today.

In post 1422, goodmorning wrote:
Depraved Justice,

Town Vigilante
, has died Night 1.

In post 1968, goodmorning wrote:
MVP,

Town Even-Night Gunsmith
, has died Night 2.

In post 2049, TheWayItEnds wrote:What do you think the chances of scum having a roleblocker and killing MVP last night?

Cause I think they're quite low.

Heres the highlight reel.

It doesnt currently include all the reasons I found Mirhawk scummy day1/day2, but I also didnt feel like it needed to.

I can add some if you want.

But literally those 4 quotes are a better case for Mirhawk than all the Toomai cases I've heard combined.

And this was a completely legitimate case for reinoe being scum d2, which was the reason I again hardtunnelled after the night, so if you want to stop being a hypocrite and start using your brain, feel free to do so.

T S O · Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:35 am

T S O · Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:22 am

Toomai, do you have any interest in living?

T S O · Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:47 am

T S O · Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:42 pm

Either Cephrir is town or nonchalant as scum to the point of complete and utter stupidity.

I agree with a lot of Izzy's stuff.

T S O · Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:03 am

In post 2303, scrambles wrote:Izy, cephalopods, toomai, and...maybe tso?

wha?

T S O · Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:31 am

In post 2314, ika wrote:
In post 2311, Cephrir wrote:Fence sitting is a Cephrir tell. Suck it up.

I think someone just wants to mislynch me tomorrow.

so are you saying lynchign you today is not a myslynch?

I somewhat think Cephrir is scum, but even I find this ridiculous.

T S O · Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:40 pm

Cephrir's switch onto Toomai makes me think they're both scum.

I would appreciate if someone actually checked me tonight, or just checked Cephrir - this bullshit about me being confirmed scum is moronic.

T S O · Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:41 pm

I still kinda want a Cephrir wagon. Does it exist? No. Should it exist? Hell to the yes.

T S O · Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:48 pm

Why exactly am I confirmed scum if Toomai flips scum?

Where does this magical link come from?

T S O · Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:54 pm

Do you have any problem with me being confirmed tonight? Will you accept that, or will you push a Godfather/other bullshit angle?

T S O · Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:05 pm

In post 2481, Mirhawk wrote:
I'm thinking Toomai or Cephrir. Are there any
good
reasons why someone else would make a better choice?

Nope.

T S O · Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:24 am

vote: toomai

T S O · Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:36 am

In post 2489, TheWayItEnds wrote:
Toomai wrote:We have 28 hours before deadline, no posts in the last 12 hours, a half-size wagon on town, and the only counterwagons both only have one vote and are on players that many agree shouldn't be lynched because of claims.

If a wagon forms on ika, TSO, or TWIE I'll join it just to get a lynch to happen. I'm undecided whether to join the Cabd wagon just because of all the murk he's spreading. I'm not interested in lynching anyone else.

One of these names feels quite out of place.

But its like I cant quite put my finger on which one.

Yeah, why the fuck's my name there?

You tell 'em.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:16 am

vote: ap

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:16 am

probably twie/ap/ceph or something - there's no way I can strongarm their lynches though

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:19 am

*thumbs up*

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:19 am

I'm fairly I'm alive to a) be useless, as I have been all game, and b) tunnel Cephrir. So I won't.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:21 am

cabd?

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:24 am

why do you think ap's town?

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:29 am

when was the last time he was actually playing?

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:29 am

More to the point, how relevant to that is his alignment? I think that as scum, I would be capable as faking that - I'm quite sure he believes the same.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:30 am

I just want one fucking scum lynch.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:34 am

I guess.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:36 am

This game makes me just a little bit emotional inside. I kinda have a tear in my eye and I'm not sure why because it's not like I've invested the time or effort to be emotionally involved. I just feel I've let everyone down. It hasn't been just me, of course, but it's been me all the same.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:36 am

Unvote

Maybe if I re-read one final time, I can find something.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:40 am

In post 2528, ika wrote:im really leaning scum on tso for 2526 now

that reeks fakeness, i would consider ap to be scum buddy as well but i still want to hear imputs

I don't give a fuck.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:41 am

I mean it's actually the truth for some reason and I don't believe in dumbing my emotions down to appear more town.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:41 am

Vote: AP

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:41 am

I'm back to this.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:47 am

I went off to meta Cephrir for fluffiness and didn't find much.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:49 am

I don't really.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:02 am

I don't trust anything he says.

I don't really trust anyone, but eh.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:23 am

If you're town, just please fucking stop your stupid shit.

T S O · Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:44 pm

It's probably fair to assume with our power this is 11-4 and it's going to be perpetual LYLO untul we win or we slip.

T S O · Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:56 am

Because AP's scum

T S O · Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:47 pm

yay no quickhammer

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:54 am

massclaim to fuck

Vt

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:40 am

this set-up spec is either really really well done or townish

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:58 am

I don't get it - we're missing something here.

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:59 am

Depraved Justice was blocked n1 even though they were killing him. That means either he was roleblocked or his kill was stopped.

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:00 am

And that was why we lynched reinoe, of course.

But what if we were wrong? What if the hydra had mentioned a Mafioso in their vigpool and scum wouldn't take the risk?

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:00 am

In post 1391, Depraved Justice wrote:
In post 1390, Titus wrote:We are vigging between Mirhawk Cephir and Reinoe.

We aren't vigging Aegor. Period. We probably aren't vigging Reinoe.

MOTHER OF FUCKING GOD

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:01 am

UNVOTE
VOTE: CEPHRIR

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:01 am

I mislynched reinoe on that and NO-ONE POINTED IT OUT

NO-ONE POINTED OUT THAT HE WASN'T THE TARGET

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:02 am

Vote this, now.

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:10 am

In post 2297, Izariael wrote:
In post 2296, Mirhawk wrote:
In post 2294, Cephrir wrote:Townreads are not earned.

They simply are.

Sorry but no.

I believe in cause and effect.

He can't have a townread without having a reason for it.

But scrambles can have a scumread on me without having a reason for it, because it agrees with your opinion, right?

In post 1533, scrambles wrote:
I feel very strongly town about TWIE TSO and IZA

I feel strongly scum on MVP, AP, REN, MIRHAWK
In post 2189, scrambles wrote:
Any on else have the feeling that i zy is scum?
In post 2282, scrambles wrote:Can someone finish off toomai before Mirhawk gets bussed in.

I agree with Mir. At least ivy and toomai are scum.
In post 2283, scrambles wrote:Trust me
izy if you come after me, I will make it my job to Lynch you
first.

My townread on Cephrir is nothing new. You can go back on my ISO and see that I've agreed with many of his posts and felt they rang town.

My townread on T S O is also nothing new. Little has changed on it, even after reinoe's flip.

My townread on AP isn't really new, but is a bit more behind the scenes. From day 1, I've had a strong town lean on him based on his interactions with others. I did question it somewhat on Day 2 after going back and looking at the Day 1 voting, but I didn't find anything I found scummy enough to outweigh the town lean.

I didn't feel like reiterating reasons I've already stated, so I tried to keep it short for the sake of brevity. Look where it got us though. This was certainly not less cumbersome than if I had just copy/pasted my townreads from earlier. My reads have shifted somewhat, but not enough to warrant detailing the shift. If a read changes by a substantial amount, then I'd be sure to detail what has caused that shift.

In post 2298, Mirhawk wrote:If you have a problem with scrambles scumread on you why don't you take it up with him? I'm not sure why you think I should be questioning scumreads that you don't like.

If you feel Cephrir is town for making lots of protown posts I'm going to have to disagree. He's made enough crappy noncommittal posts to easily balance out any towncred he's managed to accumulate.

I don't really care about you're reads on TSO and AP, you read on Cephrir is the only one that interests me.

In post 2299, Izariael wrote:
In post 2298, Mirhawk wrote:If you have a problem with scrambles scumread on you why don't you take it up with him? I'm not sure why you think I should be questioning scumreads that you don't like.

I was making a point. You were disgruntled that I posted townreads with no reasons attached, and yet never batted an eye when scrambles scumread me without a reason. It's a double-standard.

So, I was and am townreading Izzy, but I was re-reading and found this.

Izzy never answers the question about the Cephrir townread. Not in later posts either.

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:11 am

Izzy-Cephrir scumbuddies?

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:14 am

Was Mirhawk Gunsmith-cleared?

If he was, he could still theoretically be scum in a Doctor-Roleblocker scumteam, but if he's scum in any other scenario, Cephrir's still scum, I think.

T S O · Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:05 pm

In post 2600, TheWayItEnds wrote:Right but I also mean that the Maf Doc would also have to be restricted if AP is indeed town.

Because having our nurse become a full doc would also not be a thing that could happen this game.

So having opposing restrictions would make a lot of sense to me?

So like odd rb and even doc?

Because I really dont understand why you would ever kill MVP if you could just rb him.

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Also I'm pretty sure TSO is scum claiming on this page.

But we should ignore that for now.

that's nice. do you want to explain that, or will it become unexplained bullshit statement #8?

I stand by that theory and I have every intention of rubbing it in your face postgame if it's right.

T S O · Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:37 am

He is so fucking scum.

T S O · Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:38 am

That thought process genuinely 100% happened in 4 minutes, but I knew it would somehow be brought up to discredit me.

T S O · Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:38 am

Shut the fuck up, you're still getting hung today.

T S O · Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:39 am

In post 2616, Cephrir wrote:Ooh. I rarely think to consider timestamps (except my own sometimes when I'm scum). That's a really good point, I don't think that thought process looks particularly real.

Cabd/ika/TSO/Aegor??

Doesn't feel totally right, but it's something I can work with.

Does anyone, anyone at all, think this seems remotely genuine? As in, 1%? I fucking don't.

T S O · Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:22 am

so what you're saying is, twie

that you found cephrir scum before I did

and my discovery of cephrir scum makes me scum

and you didn't push cephrir scum, say, d2, or d3, or today because ???

well fucking done genius!

T S O · Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:23 am

Cephrir your scumgame is actually very mediocre. I rated it highly, but it wasn't great here at all.

T S O · Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:33 am

that's great

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:54 am

okay cool I'm scum

can we stop talking shit and help me bus

thanks

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:19 am

so let me get this straight

you gave me abuse about discovering ceph was scum

you didn't have any problem with my logic, you just wanted to get the credit for it

and now you won't even vote ceph

fucking lol.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:24 am

why?

pedit: look at this fucking shit.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:25 am

He is being so blatantly scum and rubbing it in our faces.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:30 am

I can't take this shit anymore, someone else besides these two talk to me.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:34 am

do you think Cephrir's scum?

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:35 am

The correct answer is yes, followed by a vote. Saying no and giving a reason gives you 4 marks out of 10. Saying no without any reasoning gets your exam booklet torn up and you tossed out of the hall.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:45 am

Because if he was scum, people would easily have jumped on him, or quickhammered him, or SOMETHING. There's been nothing.
Because I've had a horrible gut feeling from him all game.
Because he repeatedly pulls shit like hardvoting Cabd when it's going to be him vs Cabd today which is horribly scummy.
Because he has done nothing all game.
Because there are quite probably 4 scum players alive today and for him to be town is incomprehensible to me.
Because a lot of stuff he's done makes no sense as town trying to figure stuff out.
Because he is a better town player than this.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:46 am

I'm not moving my vote today. That list doesn't even contain the point about the vig n1 - which, for what it's worth, didn't seem like such a fantastically common theory when I didn't even know it existed and I'm one of the people actually questioning Ceph's alignment.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:47 am

It's entirely possible Cabd is scum. It's also entirely possible he is town. I am not going to risk the game when Cephrir is so much more blatantly scum than him.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:48 am

I don't intend to say much on the matter - scum are obviously content to let this game die to apathy, which is why they're not posting.

Every town player has to be responsible for constantly pushing this game. Every game I've had as scum in LyLo with apathetic town, I have won. Every single one.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:48 am

I won't, though, have it said that I was part of a lacklustre shower of morons who handed the game to scum. No.

Vote Cephrir. He's scum.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:55 am

In post 2655, ika wrote:hey tso, you scum?

if not tell me why

please just fucking play or replace out

In post 2654, TheWayItEnds wrote:But you've hard voted twice today too.

Why would Ceph's vote on Cabd be more scummy than either of yours?

because my vote was/is not a blatant survivalistic piece of shit with no actual build-up?

there is no way you can be this dense, twie.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:58 am

ap's not town?

plus loads of this is complete bull - I won a scumgame recently by d1 crumbing PGO. AP wouldn't necessarily have to claim his crumb. etc.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:59 am

In post 30, AngryPidgeon wrote:Call me Rose Tyler because I'm looking for a man with a sonic screwdriver.

I have a feeling I'm going to be a lot like state farm mafia this game.

VOTE: Nero

Que tal?

This is an obscure crumb which next to no-one could even comprehend.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:00 am

But let's not discuss AP, let's discuss Cephrir. You still haven't really refuted anything I've said, bar ...a 4-man quickhammer?

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:11 am

go ahead

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:17 am

you don't know how much I'd love to do that

but I don't really feel like tossing the game on a coinflip, which is what ika is in my pov. actually, in your pov too, I guess.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:19 am

thing is if he's town we've already lost

if I was on the scumteam, and I really wish I was, I would have told them to withhold voting/doing anything today, and watch us no lynch.

the worst bit is it'll probably work.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:19 am

he's never going to actually be helpful/vote scum/do anything except moronic bullshit, I guess

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:20 am

I'd do it, but I want to make proper predictions first.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:21 am

Ceph/Iz/ika/{cabd/ap} is my guess. maybe right, maybe wrong.

gun to my head, cabd's last scum.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:25 am

fairly sure I re-read him and something makes me think he's town. I have a 3/3 record of reading Aegor, afaik, so meh.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:30 am

I don't get it, clearly MVP's reads were utter fucking trash. One doesn't necessarily have to be right.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:30 am

I don't think Aegor is that confident as scum to state and then execute a game plan on page 1.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:33 am

You see why I think Cephrir's scum now?

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:38 am

I really shouldn't start talking about this, but I'd love to hear them.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:42 am

I'd also like you to think about this chronology of events:

Cephrir: "I have a super secret TSO tell."
TSO: "ugh"
*TSO has a hissy fit about reinoe and selfvotes"
Cephrir: "Oooh, TSO did that in FE and he was town there! I still kinda think he could be scum though." (I was up for lynch around now).
TSO: "I think you're scum, Ceph, idk why."
TSO: "Cephrir is 100% scum."
Cephrir: "So you ARE scum TSO!"

It's so reactionary and not townish.

PEdit: I just want to see if I can clear anything up - I won't write more than a line per reason, if I even respond to them.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:52 am

In post 1284, T S O wrote:
In post 1282, Depraved Justice wrote:TSO we are not vigging you. I do not feel vigs should be used on dumb town. Occasionally, players are salvagable. This is an offgame for you.

Viva la revolution!

Since my hydraslip, it should be clear I am Titus. Damn it. I was doing do well before Monday.

Btw shame tactics do not work. I am at tunnel mode with you Reinoe. Somehow Nero is not convinced despite our scumreads starting a wagon on us to fucking counter your ass. You better hope NC does not lurk out, otherwise you better roleblock us forever.

P.S. TSO I think this is thst one setup where I drew vig before. Youknow the one.

-

I like you, Titus, but Nero drives me insane.

And I do!

What about it?

In post 1017, T S O wrote:I cannot explain why or I will be force-replaced but I hate this claim.

Nope, still can't talk about it, for an obvious reason.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:11 am

In post 2688, TheWayItEnds wrote:The setup titus was talking about. What is it?

Hmm. I was hoping it had been long enough.

I thought I knew it, but it appears I can't find it. Blegh.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:11 am

In post 1280, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 1268, GuyInFreezer wrote:Do I get to piss ppl off by skimming the above and go "lol tvt"?

for this.

T S O · Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:16 am

I sadly agree with everything right up until your last line.

T S O · Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:44 am

In post 2701, Aegor wrote:Caught up. Actually following along, but not actively doing research, so my reads are not well-defined/in flux.

TSO, I am happy to research Ceph, but would you mind briefly summarizing why he is scum? Not the rant-like stuff that you have been posting; instead, something that is intelligible to an analytical/rational person like me.

I posted a decent set of reasons to this. He gave mediocre responses back where he deflects everything he can and doesn't answer the rest.

If you want to do research, it's all there in my ISO.

T S O · Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:46 am

It's really sad how inactive this game is, but hey. TWIE cares a bit, maybe 1 or 2 others, that's about it.

People like AP should either play or replace out, but I suspect that scum are strategically lurking now.

T S O · Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:11 am

When we hang you you'll be standing up.

T S O · Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:11 am

Sure, I welcome this.

Fit as many misreps as you can in there, my man.

T S O · Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:13 am

Look, if you want to be productive, can you prod your scumbuddies or something?

T S O · Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:03 am

Anyone who makes a prod dodge shitpost and then doesn't post again for days will be considered mod-confirmed scum by me.

T S O · Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:03 am

Yes, AngryPidgeon, that means you - and yes, Iz, that means you too!

T S O · Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:26 am

I've never blacklisted someone before but I'm considering it now.

T S O · Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:28 pm

How about some reads?

T S O · Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:34 pm

Well, if you actually read my ISO, and still got nothing, I'm done.

T S O · Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:35 pm

Please let me revive people from the dead QT or something

T S O · Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:37 pm

I'm sorry, I'll handwrite my analytical and rational post for a few hours here while you sit on your fucking backside and take no interest in any type of case other than one that is specifically written for and presented to you.

How about fucking no.

T S O · Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:38 pm

In post 2701, Aegor wrote:Caught up. Actually following along, but not actively doing research, so my reads are not well-defined/in flux.

TSO, I am happy to research Ceph, but would you mind briefly summarizing why he is scum? Not the rant-like stuff that you have been posting; instead, something that is intelligible to an analytical/rational person like me.

why don't you continue "actually following along, but not actively doing research, so not having well-defined/in-flux reads"?

*turns the sarcasm meter off*

T S O · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:30 am

Can we talk about AP?

T S O · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:32 am

Excluding his claim, why exactly do you feel he's town?

T S O · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:45 am

In post 1605, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 1602, scrambles wrote:Maybe it's just my point of view, but when I first put him as scum, he didn't bother to ask for my reasoning and instead said he wouldn't be lynched. When I remove him without reason, suddenly, he cares about my reasoning.

I don't really see why you find this odd. Calling people out on inconsistencies is a common thing for people to do, and people are way more likely in general to care-about/notice inconsistencies related to themselves because at heart we are all egotistical bastards. Why is this scummy/awkward of Cabd to point out but not care about your initial assertion?
I want to hear your thought process on the matter rather than just describing to me what happened, cause I know what happened and I think it actually looks town on Cabd.
Your "however, ..." bit here makes sense objectively but you are stating it like it was obvious to everyone but the fact you needed to explain it clearly means it wasn't >.>

Re OMGUS: Its a loosely defined term, but I don't get your stance on Cabd here at all. You think he is scummy for pointing out an unexplained change of opinions you had that you then had to explain? You were really pointed to him considering you apparently think he's town and you admit you hadn't explained your thought process at all.

I'll discuss your views in this in a bit, but re: the bolded - do you know what's going on here?

T S O · Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:26 am

In post 2567, ika wrote:
In post 376, Cabd wrote:
In post 364, T S O wrote:I genuinely think reinoe is either ballsy enough or stupid enough to play "too stupid to be scum" as scum.

I have ~reasons~ to think reinoe slot is town.

i ran an iso but this is odd....

im gonna take a sleep off and then prob place my vote cus i rather not see any bltzing

In post 2599, Cephrir wrote:Who would think up a scheme like that I wonder? If you guessed Cabd, you are correct.

In post 2627, Mirhawk wrote:@Cabd
Why did you think AP was a backup in the first place.

What was the "deal" with your code-talk with AP? How did it make you think you would be able to tell if MVP was scum the next day?

In post 2646, T S O wrote:do you think Cephrir's scum?

In post 2657, TheWayItEnds wrote:Like you voted AP earlier.

And AP is like... pretty town I think?

He shows up in very few of my paranoia teams even.

And crumbing nurse in a game that almost HAS to have a mafia doc in his first post seems pretty good.

Like, is it possible that AP looks at his scum team and sees maf doc and crumbs nurse? Yeah.

But without knowing what town power looks like that seems like a risky thing to do.

So why, if AP is town, would he not have been quickhammered with your vote left on him?

As far as I could see.

T S O · Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:27 am

some of them are kinda sideways questions, but w/e.

T S O · Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:46 am

Why do you sound so robotic and lifeless this game, Aegor?

T S O · Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:58 am

someone kill me

T S O · Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:12 am

you know what

ika is never ever going to co-operate with me, so we'll just nl and lose.

he has a half-decent chance of being scum

but if he's town we've already lost.

unvote
vote: ika

T S O · Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:13 am

He's not even in my top 3 scum suspects, but whatever. Nice kills, scumteam - it's just me, ika and inactives (and maybe TWIE).

T S O · Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:56 pm

I still believe the ika lynch was actually very productive.

Vote: Cabd

T S O · Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:59 pm

T S O · Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:00 pm

I feel we're doing something wrong here by lynching Cabd, somehow, but fuck if I know.

T S O · Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:02 pm

In post 2867, Cabd wrote:I mean this is the penguin alien micro all over again for you, TSO. Game was over when I hammered ika.

well yes, but ika was like a serial killer with no kill here.

T S O · Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:09 pm

In post 2873, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 2863, T S O wrote:I feel we're doing something wrong here by lynching Cabd, somehow, but fuck if I know.

Then why are you voting him?

okay, who?

T S O · Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:11 pm

appp talk to me

T S O · Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:12 pm

AP WHO WOULD WE LYNCH

T S O · Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:12 pm

I TRY TO BE ACCEPTING BUT ANSWER

T S O · Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:13 pm

ah no ap fuck you jm

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:56 am

AP are you fucking stupid??

He claimed scum yesterday??

What the fuck are you doing??

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:58 am

ap is still scum, he's dying tomorrow

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:25 am

It could be hard to push, but look for stuff you can misrep.

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:31 am

um where are the votes

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:56 am

I would prefer to lose to him being Vengeful or something outside of our control rather than LEAVING HIM ALIVE.

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:56 am

If he's Vengeful and we can't stop him killing then we will still eventually lose - vote him to fuck and don't listen to AP trying to fuck you with paranoia.

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:59 am

It's very possible. I mean, we've been lynching scum all ga-

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:07 am

I'm maintaining that ika was a Traitor who flipped VT. This game is secretly bastard.

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:13 am

Cabd and TSO, brave town overlords, against the dark forces of derphammer and Glenn Peck.

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:48 pm

This makes no sense. If you actually manage to believe I'm scum and AP somehow isn't, despite doing nothing all day yesterday and walking into today actually advocating

to lynch me over Cabd

, then you need to re-assess all your reads here.

T S O · Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:49 pm

If you believe Cephrir is scum, make him hammer Cabd, and if he refuses to then we lynch him. Simple, no?

I'd actually prefer if AP did it but w/e.

T S O · Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:15 am

In post 3001, T S O wrote:I would prefer to lose to him being Vengeful or something outside of our control rather than LEAVING HIM ALIVE.

In post 3002, T S O wrote:If he's Vengeful and we can't stop him killing then we will still eventually lose - vote him to fuck and don't listen to AP trying to fuck you with paranoia.

There is no way we are going to consecutively lynch scum until LyLo. Let's be honest - it won't happen. Therefore, #3002 is relevant. Read it, then someone fucking hammer.

T S O · Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:17 am

T S O · Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:17 am

I will fucking hammer. I'll hammer him.

T S O · Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:17 am

Unvote

Put him to L-1.

T S O · Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:16 am

I'm aware you're trying to goad me into doing it, Cephrir, you're not subtle.

I am also aware we don't actually have a legitimate way of removing Cabd.

If anyone wants to suggest one besides lynch, that'd be marvellous.

T S O · Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:29 am

In post 3054, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 3051, T S O wrote:I'm aware you're trying to goad me into doing it, Cephrir, you're not subtle.

I am also aware we don't actually have a legitimate way of removing Cabd.

If anyone wants to suggest one besides lynch, that'd be marvellous.

We just lynch all the scums that arent him.

Then we lynch him.

ez.

This is never going to fucking happen!

T S O · Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:42 am

When I say LyLo, I mean 3-man traditional.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:32 am

Someone fucking vote him. This is crazy.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:33 am

How can town be so incredibly inept?

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:39 am

There's a difference between "genuine mislynches" and not hammering confscum because of bullshit paranoia.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:23 am

vote: cabd

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:44 am

Game over, bitches.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:45 am

how did you actually get baited into that shit

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:45 am

yay Mafia Traitor!

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:50 am

All hail ika, indeed.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:50 am

I didn't get your roles so I'm presuming you can actually do something and you're not being a trolling fuck.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:54 am

Yes, it would.

It would also be literally the most hilarious thing ever.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:55 am

Still, though, shooting me won't do anything.

Also, if you were Town, then I'd know you weren't in the scumteam due to my knowledge - therefore, we're of the same alignment.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:56 am

but seriously you better be able to end this shit today

shoot Mirhawk pls.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:07 pm

Meh. I'm lying out of my ass, but it's nice to know I was right on Iza-scum.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:10 pm

It didn't really matter anyway. There was no way that I could have co-ordinated an Iza lynch with this town. It would be great if Mirhawk would try to fucking check in more than once as semi-conftown in LyLo, but that's none of my business.

Well done, scum. AP-Cabd-Iza-Ceph?

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:04 pm

Oooh, toughie.

Cut AP out, then.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:05 pm

I was scum, yes.

T S O · Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:06 pm

If Iza was town, no regrets really. Cabd-AP-Iza-Ceph was the perma lynchpool - if Aegor/Mirhawk/TWIE were scum, I'd never have caught up.

T S O · Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:51 pm

I still think it's AP or Cephrir. I'm not banking on being right any more. Not voting until I read, a lot.

T S O · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:40 am

I actually forgot about this thing.

Sigh.

T S O · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:41 am

If we somehow lynch scum here and I die then it's really unacceptable to let this lurk out to a scum win.

T S O · Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:03 am

Hmm.

Did we ever get the n1 result of Aero/scramb? I know he got Mirhawk n2.

T S O · Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:06 am

I pretty strongly believe it's not Aegor-Iz, at any rate.

T S O · Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:06 am

I'm not sure I believe it's Iz at all, but eh.

T S O · Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:10 am

I have tried, but I cannot make myself believe Cephrir is town.

And I realise I've probably been left alive to push this angle, but I still don't get it.

T S O · Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:20 am

TWIE thought Ceph was scum, I thought Ceph was scum.

I am going to take awful flak in postgame if this is wrong.

Vote: Cephrir

T S O · Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:26 am

That's literally the one thing I can't stop thinking about.

T S O · Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:26 am

AP really shouldn't be alive.

T S O · Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:20 am

unvote

for now.

T S O · Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:46 am

T S O · Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:47 am

Vote: Cephrir

T S O · Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:47 am

Nothing's changed.

T S O · Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:52 pm

unvote

I haven't read anything really but I'm aware you made the effort - I'll read and see where I stand.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:09 am

I do, but no-one else will fucking post.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:10 am

Vote: Izariael

Fuck it, he's not even going to post, so if he's town the game's over.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:10 am

I still think Cephrir's scum too, but I need active players to vote.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:21 am

I am town, for what it's worth.

But, you're never ever going to get me lynched because no-one gives a fuck except me, and maybe you too. That's exactly my mindset regarding you. I am not townreading you. If Izariael is scum, you're probably town, because the optimal play today for scum is to not post and not bus. Lynching you, though, is simply not an option - therefore, I'll go with Iz.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:26 am

I know, haha, I saw them. I just felt the need to make the point anyway.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:55 am

He hasn't posted.

Plus, I think his Cabd interaction when Cabd was trolling is shit.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:25 am

so you don't think his long rvs about cabd and cabd's immediate townread of him are alignment relevant? I do.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:07 pm

unvote

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:07 pm

I FUCCKING SAT HERE

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:07 pm

TRYING TO FUCKING GET IN

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:07 pm

YOU QUICK FUCKING CUNT

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:07 pm

GOD FUCKING DAMN

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:08 pm

I have sat here for 3 minutes straight refreshing like a bastard (even now as I type I refresh after every 10 words) hoping to catch

^ I was typing that as I refreshed

oh my fucking god

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:09 pm

I am a fucking stupid idiot.

wp ap and ceph - i felt ceph was scum but it wasn't like fucking anyone was helping.

wp scumteam.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:10 pm

Sorry but not really to town - ika you can go fuck yourself you shitty cunt.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:16 pm

It makes me feel a little better, AP.

Good game to you two - I don't have any complaints, town didn't deserve to win.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:08 pm

Can I have the Mafia/Dead PT's? They're all I want right now.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:21 pm

Thanks, gm.

Dead Thread was what I expected, really - ika claimed he knew Scum, reinoe acted like a little bitch, Nero apparently would have caught all the scum too.

How on earth do you facilitate your confidence, Nero? You really should be a motivational speaker or something - you're fantastically confident even though you're also fantastically shit, who knows how far someone actually half-competent could get?

(yes, this is the polemic of this game - Nero really irritates me because I think he's so shit)

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:25 pm

Scum was a good read though.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:43 pm

I don't at all.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:44 pm

In fact, 3189 reads like a satire - Nero is definitely one of the three people I dislike most on site.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:46 pm

soz bj

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:00 pm

Your history is pushing mislynches before getitng mislynched, big boy.
I pushed Cephrir for the entire game, Nero, you weren't the only one doing that.

You also got yourself ran up off your own stupidity, causing your death n1, and you'd have shot me only for Titus curtailing your idiocy.

But yes, "shits like me calling you bad make you good." Okay, Nero. Come back to me when you, I don't know, try not to fuck up in a game. I haven't seen one of yours yet - it's a big step for you.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:01 pm

Let's take Fire Emblem for example - you were so awful there you had to be permanantly shut up before I went on to lynch p_a without your stupidity distracting me.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:02 pm

I have no problem in doing a character assassination of you - you unequivocally deserve one, and while I've insulted some people in heat of moment, this isn't one - you're completely deserving of everything you get.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:05 pm

you sure demolished the scumteam here - in your words "you'd have got them all eventually." Okay, Nero. Whatever you say.

T S O · Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:07 pm

Oh, I take full responsibility for my not lynching Cephrir here - I just couldn't let a certain type of unassailable arrogance go unquestioned.