Mini 1595: WiFom City: The Inquisition - GAME OVER - THANKS!

[ika]

man i had honey pegged as judge first.

i want to hear others imputs first

like... WHOS MIST SCUM BUDDIES?

time to publicly direct me who should be checked and why?

[ika]

Here's a read's list as promised. I'm not going to do the whole color thing you guys have a hard on for. If explained my scum reads, but if you want to ask about my town reads, go ahead.

Rubicon - Who?
Albert B. Rampage - I have a null leaning scum read on this character, as you pop in at random times and it just rings of Beetlejuice
ZZZX - Again, who?
Unsight - I have a gut town read here, and since this is Gravedigger, I'll be keeping a closer eye on you
Honey bee - Null
Grib - Probably scum
Atum - Bothersome, but town
fontisian - Scum ~
Stigmata - Null
ika - Another scum read
hiplop (replaces Jargonaut) - Town
MadCitrus - Null leaning Town

lookie what i found.....

[ika]

who wants to take a stab at this read list and whos town and whos scum?

[ika]

font. go look at who she replaced and tell me you think Holder's posts could POSSIBLY come from scum. No fucking way.

Erhm about the softclaims, what? Nothing at all like that.

as for your post, a lot of it is blatant misreads in that nbig quote post. For example, the one about the wagon, yeah that was the wagon on me. Blatant misreps all thru that post.

Hmmm. Interesting development. Will wait for citrus to confirm before I make any conclusion tho.

VOTE: honeybee

she knew fonjt was town before unsight revealed it.

literally only scum could know that

and okay we blow up mist tonight

dont like her change of tone after ikas claim.

smells like scum spirit

VOTE: mist

honey bb you still scum

some quote im placehoolding for later, this development on hiplop is quite amazing, in fact it reminds me of titus from WH4....

[ika]

i also want a bomber claim, i looked at meacnic and if it goes anywhere else im taking it as a scum claim

[ika]

i want accountability on the bomb

[ika]

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[ika]

really who i read as towna dn who i read as scum is moot to me right now, im a confriemd town, whil i do have my own personal reads i rather hear the imputs of others on who should be checks, this was we can look at it as group.

[ika]

toNights target should be chosen by players on who is most scummy to confirm/deny

tommorows target will be checked by me.

i also would like angles to protect me so i keep double life and force them to waste more time on me

[ika]

tbh I am thinking that the bomber is scum. If that is the case, then maybe we should no lynch so I can pass the bomb to another town player and lynch me tomorrow.

tbh i dont doubt that either, but either way it plays out it gives me enough time to put in one more check in any situation.

bomb+attack on me gets negated with agnel protections and i live to give results

attack on me is even better due to fact angels protect me and i still have double life.

also taking into account, DOB (who by the looks of it is town) can hit one of them and then we have number advantage

[ika]

Isn't the bomb's location public knowledge?

yup, but honey has it.

[ika]

Wait crap if she's lynched bomber re-distributes it?

yes, but scince we have a stong inking on who bomber is as well as if its sent to me is a scum claim

[ika]

but angel protect can override bomb so they can waste even more time on me

[ika]

And I misread that, my bad. Still want to hear how your reads progressed though.

hm? They've been pretty standard. If you look at yesterday I was pretty focussed on grib/stigmata. ABR I said I can't read at all and hes done nothing, so he'd be worth an investigate. Rubicon has been pretty invisible, also worth investigate. Atum you just happen to be the last person I think would be worth a check. Don't really think youre scum, but you're in the null-town category if I were to categorize

the question reamins, do you mind being checked?

[ika]

And did the Acolyte confirm for ika?

Since I don't think ika or mist are going to respond to you Atum, I'll answer now. You don't really look like a mist-buddy to me so I'm less bothered by this now, but I don't really understand why you were pushing fontisian so vehemently. I don't understand why anyone that was in or reading Micro #2 on DLP wouldn't have reconsidered her read on her considering that how genuinely pissed she was at Citrus was seeping over there.

didnt read it.

font was just a bad town this game, she did a stupid gambit that got herself lynched and i dont care how she justifies it. she was consending to me the entire time and shutting down my ideas (i dont care if its suboptimal or stupid or any of that shit), she tried to command everyone. also font should consider this equality to kai, she can lead the angels to do whatever.

point is: font play made herself get lynched.

[ika]

atum: the fact cirtus cam on and never said enything about my preist claim should be evidence enough

[ika]

You made your intention clear early on that you thought it was pro-town for fonti to die regardless of her alignment, and I got Rubicon's stance. I just want Atum to explain to me why nothing seemed to waiver him from fontiscum ever. And I feel like everyone except Grib is ignoring the Citrus issue which is worth getting to the bottom of.

cirtus issue?

[ika]

i never checked cirtus, as i stated i had a strong inking of heel/mist scum from the get go, if you recal post 78 is where my first pign went off.

delp can you just tell me where you are going with this? i jsut got home and not in the greated mood so give me a moment to read the rest of the stuff atm

[ika]

wait i think i see what delp is getting at....

that being said, unsight is unaligned with mist based on how she was gun-ho with the bombing

hip might be also but, it backburner

mists reaction to the failed kill seems to imply that it was town trick made

[ika]

If you actually checked Citrus, ika, you should probably say as such. Mist has all but claimed scum by now anyway.

Sorry about that! Knew I was missing something! I mean hey, demons need someone running the Devils chat. Thanks for giving me the night to talk to my partners though; it's really sweet. Especially now that I can mark someone Who do you want to check again Ika?

Oh that reminds me. Look at the people who immediatly jumped on me being scum because of Ika's claim. No one even thought of the possibility of scum Font marking me?

you cant mark while alive...

also unless if you are spitralist or have scum one, they can out easily and say. the entire reason of leaving you alive is to keep you from marking tonight. its also a little late for that idea, like i said i suspected your slot early on and the fact you only now bring it up is really late

[ika]

how about you tell us you scum buddies

[ika]

*whisper's into Ika's ear*

Titus and Ika

nooooooo, thats our other game of civlization we played elsewhere.

try again

[ika]

Here I'll give you my reads list. Which are on par because, *laughs* I'm scum. Top is good, bottom is bad.

Rubicon
Albert B. Rampage
ZZZX
Unsight
Honey bee
Grib
Atum
Stigmata
ika
hiplop (replaces Jargonaut)
MadCitrus

legit read list, looks exactly like the post that titus has in 0

could you ealborate on them?

[ika]

Stigmata I don't really understand your confusion. I thought fonti was playing off from the start. Nothing she did in this game dissuaded me of that. I don't know what you mean about Micro Mafia, so either elaborate or drop it. And you still haven't given a reason for voting me.

atum might be scum.....

thats quite a defensive remark

[ika]

Err sorry, I meant AYAW3, forgot the name.

I'm too angry to deal with anything mafia at this point. Riley can either replace or you guys can lynch me. I don't give a fuck.

It's not related to this game. Don't worry about it.

I don't want to replace out for a game that ends in a max of three days anyway. Ugh. If Riley has a replacement lined up, he should have them replace me. If not, I'll stay.

Sorry for the freak out.

Part of the reason she won that one is because people didn't think she'd play that way as scum. Unsurprisingly she flipped town in the game she was actually that frustrated over. Did none of that make you think twice?

My top 2 scumreads coming into today were Mist and you (both kinda gut, but I thought you were the probscum of people I'd been throwing into my townpile for a while.) I voted you to motivate myself to actually ask you questions about your alignment later on (figured I was biased against Mist and wouldn't actually make progress w reading her, so that could wait.) I don't think you're her buddy though so now I don't really care. You do seem kinda defensive though. Is it stress?

i thought she was scum from begining, i just never cared enough plus i died n1. lucky suspected her but her rage out made him reconsider, me being a player of high caliber of emotions, i have learned to ignore emotions 99% of the time unless i know that player full well on how they use it. font uses it for both alignments so i have learned to ignore it

[ika]

Question for those of you who haven't voted for Honey bee yet:

is it because you're busy!lurking, or because you have a Reason not to?

i can answer, we dont want supermajority vote yet.

[ika]

i checked mist cirtus, now shut the fuck up.

rubicon shut up your fanfic.

as far as i know titus has been ill as of late, last time i talked to her was a while this game might be stuck for a while

[ika]

if needed i can try to contact mathblade and see

[ika]

I think this would work better if we all told the truth.

is there soemthing you would like to share?

[ika]

tbh i havent been role hunting. if i iso i bet i could

[ika]

ok now i know.

[ika]

ohhhhhhhhhh, now i see what im looking at...

ok now time to rethink if im reading correctly

[ika]

dont worry, i have a strong idea i know what kitty is poking at

[ika]

noooo, grib and you tell me wat your role is, im too lazy to go find it

[ika]

cirtus, whos scum?

i fint it funny you never confirmed my as preist

p-edit:

i rather have an inquionter check you to see if your alcodite

[ika]

cirtus whos unalgined with mist?

how about that?

[ika]

Ways Citrus could've survived, as far as I can tell:

(1) Angel protection

- I am following up further with Titus, but I can confirm that what Grib checked w Titus about angel protection being distinct in the flavor from other survivial was also confirmed to me by the mod.
(2) Demon trick (Jester)

(3) Fanatic checked by Priest

- Unless [ika's] claim is not completely true.

(4) DOB-given extra life

- I think would be publicly announced, plus would prob involve Honey Bee and Unsight both being scum and suicidal gambiting?

whats the question? deamon trick is 50/50 both alignments would use it.

i have you down as one of 2 roles

p-edit:

@citrus thats not helpful i mean living players

@mist: yes mist you may answer it as well

[ika]

Oh new page I was like why aren't you responding

to?

p-edit:

we got time

[ika]

How are night actions resolved?
Gravedigger and Bomber's Bomb replacement (if needed) happens immediately.
Demons curse votes and any special cards are due halfway through night.
Everything else, including Angels, is due at the end of night.

and no survialist mean there are not extra lives at start. i assume all actiosn resolve simatanoiusly

[ika]

Stigmata -- town Jester chooses Witch Trick. Witches shoot Citrus. Citrus survives. Right?

how do you know its a town jester?

[ika]

while its kidna implied its town jest it could be some massive gambit of fake killings

[ika]

Eh. Scum wouldn't shoot into themselves if they weren't 100% sure Witch Trick was selected. If scum!Jester picked Witch Trick and shot town, it wastes their first kill for the sake of wine, which probably isn't worth it?

shhhhhhh, dont ruin it.

[ika]

back to lurking

GRIB HOW DARE YOU!

let it be known grib is angry

[ika]

no, i go by what emoticon says.

at least now im confident you are town.

grib whos scum?

[ika]

rubicon whos scumand whos towwna nd why

[ika]

mist how are you 16 but selling fireworks?

[ika]

Because I sell fireworks during Christmas and July 4th as a job? I don't get that question.

i thought it was law you had to be 18 to seel fireworks

[ika]

Scum (+grib) gotta be in Stig/ZZZX/ABR/Grib

You are now a Day Vig with 1 bullet. Which of those 4 do you shoot and why?

i want to extend this to everyone, outside of mist who would you shoot and why?

name 3 people.

[ika]

citrus/honey wait for everyone else to answer this. i want to see where people overlap on who to shoot and why.

[ika]

Ika, I would shoot you! Town doesn't need a priest :O

dont worry even though you are scum we still love you.

if we find your friends we can kill them like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU

i wish i knew how to make it a vid and not a link, but still this is how we will kill them

[ika]

I wouldn't shoot ABR because

even though he's scum

, his prod dodges make me laugh.

so probably ZZZX.

rubi can you explain this to me? how do you know ABR is scum?

[ika]

I hope you and everyone else is ok titus. That really sucks..

^that

also honey have you locked in mist for bomb? i think were not going to get much more out of this tbh

does anyone want to comment on rubis possible scumslip i pointed out?

[ika]

ok so honeybee is at 5 votes

im just going to put mine now so we can have a lynch set up it should still be 7 to lynch

VOTE: honeybee

i jsut want to make sure we dont have derp dealine missed

[ika]

~Unofficial vote count~
Honey bee (7): Unsight, Grib, Mist7676, Stigmata, hiplop, Albert B. Rampage, ika

Not Voting: Rubicon, ZZZX, Madcitrus, Atum, Honey bee

Spoiler: Vote history

Albert B. Rampage: Vote: Atum, Vote: Honey bee
Atum:
Grib: Vote: Albert B. Rampage, Vote: Honey bee
hiplop: Vote: Honey bee, Vote: Mist7676, Vote: Honey bee
Honey bee:Vote: ZZZX, Vote: Honey bee, Unvote: Honey bee
Ika: Vote: Atum, Vote: Atum, Vote: Honey bee
MadCitrus:
Mist7676:Vote: Atum, Vote: Honey bee
Rubicon:
Stigmata: Vote: Atum, Vote: Mist7676, Honey bee
Unsight: Vote: Honey bee
ZZZX:

Also I am assuming that since 12 people are alive it's 6 for lynch and 8 for insta-lynch. I also have both my actions confirmed for today ^^

damn nice, but it should stillbe techincal 7 for lynch (51%)

[ika]

mist is currently unaligned with grib, unsight, atum, stigma based off interactions alone by the looks of it

she has barley touched on Rubicon, Albert B. Rampage, ZZZX, and hiplop

honey is eliminated by BOD claim + lynch

based off what i get on my check + actions will decide what we should most likely do next

[ika]

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[ika]

That's my job Cit >:l ...

I'll hammer when ika tells me to.

if abr does not post in the next 24 hrs go ahead and hammer.

i have stong guts i can poe rest of the game

[ika]

Cool he posted

Whenever you're ready ika. Check abr/zzzx imo

thats my plan, if you look at interatcions mist had almost none with the ones i listed.

so its a basic poe game

[ika]

oh and font should protect me regardless so i can retain extra life and force them to wase more effort on me

[ika]

cirtus is alcodite who is confirmed town though?

[ika]

heres the easiest way, inquisition check cirtus tonight, tommorw they claim if hes holy or not. if hes holy we are done with it, if not we have someone lying

[ika]

Oh yeah, inquisitor. I keep forgetting a lot of the mechanics and roles in this game for some reason >.>

it helps when youre very conscious of the role list and how it works and love breaking games...

[ika]

how do unsight and grib both die?

oh anyway VOTE: zzzx

hes scum. but before we go i want a mass rolecall

[ika]

D.o.B. probably.

I oppose a mass role call.

fuck you we are mass rolecalling this shit.

role now

[ika]

and inquitioner needs to say if citus is holy or not, if we dont get a claim, im going to assume it was mist

[ika]

rip my town reads

Hi guys

stigma whats your role?

i had you as DOB..... clearly thats not the case...

im too paranoid now and i want claims

[ika]

I feel so much better about my D1 play now btw fuck yeah and fuck you you all on the fontisian wagon

it was a nessacary wagon.

[ika]

Lynching town is not necessary?? <3 screwdrivers

in WH i would beg to differ.

any other game, lynchign town is a good past time.

now to look for the unalinged/affiliations

[ika]

Scum get two kills starting tonight after we lynch ZZZX btw.

yup.

heres the thing: dont care. im checking someone tonight and they can play the "try to out-WIFOM me game" but they wont

p-edit: let em ask this, if hes not alcodite, then who the fuck is?

[ika]

that doesn't answer my question

know what. fuck it, im done for the night. unless if you are coming out saying you are the alcodite CC or inquitioner and hes a non-holy, there no reason for me to do this.

p-edit are you drunk? are you ok?

[ika]

I'm kidding I'm not that sad about the death but it's still ducked up

-.-

messing with me while im pissed and paranoid and tired is not a good idea

[ika]

If citrus is scum then someone else is the acolyte anyway so that seems to be poor logic

when have i ever had proper logic w/o the help of role?

go home your drunk, come back sober

[ika]

You need to explain or it doesn't make sense to out that many people

how about you just tell me then what angle you are getting at?

unless if you are coming out saying you are inqu who found him unholy or CC him yourself, i dont get what you are going at.

unless if its one of those 2, theres no reason for this.

[ika]

VOTE: Hiplop

we are lynching ZZZX

[ika]

Tbh idk who was the gd

doesnt change the fact you are scum

[ika]

Kitty why can we still nit play follow cop? Right now we have the advantage and tbh I can prob try to figure out an optional thing for us

[ika]

Uhh BC shenanigans, ika?

um, that suboptimal to curse anyone but me atm whilei have 2 lives?

[ika]

Rubicon let me ask you a question in return. What do we know right now, about this game?

here let me answer

mist was a confimred scum, ZZZX is a confirmed scum who claims inqu.

font was a judge
grib was DOB
honeybee was BOD
unsight was GD
im preiest
cirtus is alcodite

does that sum it up?

[ika]

aslo witht the fact that if they do double kill they have to be 2 diffrent targets so im fine w/o angle tonight.

and that i can solve the game by a game of actions tommorow

[ika]

anyone want to speculate that stigma is the final scum?

[ika]

Don't worry, I won't be mislynched. I'm the loose cannon.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

knew it, so im gonna give hiplop a slide for being bomber. so does anyone want to consider the unsight case?

[ika]

i mean stigma....

[ika]

UNVOTE:

no hammer yet i want to hear atum

[ika]

i want everyone to make one final post of town/scum list then im revoting

[ika]

oh crap! im at work right now will come back promptly!

totally thought we lynched zzx

whos scum after ZZZX?

[ika]

anyone want to speculate that stigma is the final scum?

What makes you think she is?

somewhat of guts, and her posts.

she keeps trying to discredit follow the cop b/c shenanigans when at this poitn its suboptimal for themt o do that.

also running over her iso something just rubs wrong

also tommorw is abr is alive, we can just have him losse cannnon, that way if hes scum hes in catch 22.

also if hiplop is bomber, it points towards him being town. due to it not optimal to bomb scum buddie. i ran the numbers and if mist was alive at this point i think we would be screwed (barring angels interference)

[ika]

also the fact that mist was alive in that phase means if it was scum bomber, she could of been the one who pegged grib as DOB and then if you crunch numbers with whos alive now (plus mist) it would favor scums due to the fact that they can then just go and bomb me to negate life

[ika]

I have no idea why Grib would have killed Unsight as D.o.B., though - makes me think it was mist, not him

you know that makes sense as well....

still, if hiplop is bomber its town. scum DOB +scum bomber would wreck shop by leaving both alive

[ika]

now you can see why i also wanted mass rolecall. if we sort roles before tommorow it wont give anyone chances to hide on anything

[ika]

anyone want to speculate that stigma is the final scum?

What makes you think she is?

somewhat of guts, and her posts.

she keeps trying to discredit follow the cop b/c shenanigans when at this poitn its suboptimal for themt o do that.

also running over her iso something just rubs wrong

Uhhh I accepted your like counter argument about the follow the cop. I just think people should scumhunt as well as it's more possible stuff could go wrong surrounding investigations (tho unlikely as you've pointed out)?

My iso is full of me talking about scumfucks and being super town but if you still think I'm scum and want me to claim today that's fine. I also assumed mist was DOB BC of one of her last posts and I don't think either unsight or grib would intentionally shoot each other

well the ohter thing is POE points toward you...

if anything i want a bomber claim at least

[ika]

Whoops I haven't been checking in.

Still pretty confident Hiplop is town, ABR's play makes sense as Town!Cannon.

Stigmata/Atum with a possible undercover Rubicon. Mist/ZZZX/Rubicon doesn't really feel right

try unsight as scum? look at unsights iso and interactions with them does it look like shes coachin in some of them? i can give out examples later

Just to clarify, Triple Z is scum by a priest check?

Yes, and no scums were dead at the time so its impossible for shinanigans

Don't worry, I won't be mislynched. I'm the loose cannon.

You being almost mislynched and then taking out the wrong person would also be bad, so hearing you explain your reads would still be a good thing. Do you object for some reason? Why?

stigmata IMO

and uhm i may have had a hand in setting the bomb

and thats why your town

[ika]

i want to point out rubi town!slipped hard as well in pregame

he said witch gambler

we are dealing with demons.....

[ika]

ok this has gone on long enough i dont think we are getting more out

VOTE: ZZZX

if he self hammers whatever

tommorow is abr is alive, hes activating for our lynch

[ika]

as a measure to confirm he cant win if by the off chance hes scum

[ika]

I'm your acolyte, ika.

.......

[ika]

well if cirtus is jester who did self kill again, he cant double kill....

[ika]

i really dont have time for this shit as well

you would of saved me time if you just claimed from start when cirtus did it

[ika]

well this game can still be solved even if we lynch ZZZX.

if double kill exist, we know cirtus cant be scum b/c as scum he would have an extra life.

it would be this:

Albert B. Rampage
Atum
Stigmata
ika
hiplop
MadCitrus

pretneidn we ignore my check, we lynch cirtus and if he lives its confirmed scum, if not it confirms you as scum.

and this is assuming scum always kills

either way its win-win

[ika]

so we can sort you 2 out later.

we still win by numbers:

go into night with ZZZX lynch:

rubicon
Albert B. Rampage
Atum
Stigmata
ika
hiplop
MadCitrus

assume single kill (just removing top names):

Albert B. Rampage
Atum
Stigmata
ika
hiplop
MadCitrus

we lynch cirtus and lives, hes scum!firmed so even if double kill happens


Stigmata
ika
hiplop
MadCitrus

he cant win

------------------------

if we lync cirtus and he dies:

Albert B. Rampage
Atum
Stigmata
ika
hiplop

even with double kill we get this

Stigmata
ika
hiplop

and we lynch you for liar.

so either way it pans out, its win, i want everyones claims out in the open at this point

[ika]

and the ohter arguement is that if a double happens tonight it autoclears cirtus

[ika]

Dead!Grib = Sad!Atum

Is there any reason, mechanics-wise why Citrus would be townfirmed?
Also, I support a massclaim.

well technacly alcodite is confrimed town, but now we have 2 claims of it:

cirtus and unsight. i have already proven the math that we win regardless as long as we lynch ZZZX first

[ika]

thats the only mechanic that has cirtus town!fimred atm

[ika]

but its gone now

[ika]

I don't think Citrus ever claimed acolyte though, as I've been bugging you about for days. He'd be stupid to?

he claimed it day 1 iirc or at least alcodite-type role

if not he prob apprentice

[ika]

What the fuck.

I am

NOT

Acolyte to Fontisian Priest. She has a genius plan that just requires me to sheep her 'priest' claim D1 because [redacted], but I just figured out there's a deeper layer to what she's doing.

Please do NOT let her role fish you everyone.

More emphasis: VOTE: Fontisian

this was what looked like alcodite claim. but now it means hes aprentice who took GDer

[ika]

now i need to compile claims

[ika]

Albert B. Rampage - lose cannon
Stigmata - alco
ika - preist
hiplop - bomber
fontisian - judge
Honey bee - BOD
Mist7676 - DOB
Unsight - GD

MadCitrus- apprentice?
Grib - ???
Rubicon - ???
ZZZX - scum inqu?
Atum - ???

unaccounted for

Fanatic
Jester
Spiritualist

fill in the blanks now and we can solve this. now you can see why i wanted mass rolecall much earlier

[ika]

Scum-ABR should've suicided to stop honey bee from giving you the extra life I think, but he's not really been around so I'm not sure how much stock to put into that? Also I'll be surprised if Grib isn't spiritualist

hes loose cannon, after ZZZX lynch hes in catch 22, hes force to activate on who we agree or we lynch him

[ika]

Albert B. Rampage - loose cannon
Stigmata - alcodite
ika - preist
hiplop - bomber
fontisian - judge
Honey bee - BOD
Mist7676 - DOB
Unsight - GD
MadCitrus- apprentice
Grib - sprit
Rubicon - jester
ZZZX - scum inqu?
Atum - fanfic

im thinking this is right?

[ika]

hmmmmm.....

if rubi is trick and chose kill trick, i could see cirtus devining that he did it and just gave out an extra life. again it comes back to the single vs double kills

[ika]

I'm not claiming. Keeping everything about my role secret is very important to me

rubi dont irritate me, just fuckign claim

[ika]

I'll probably just kill Rubicon.

no you kill who we say. that way if your town we hit scum

[ika]

Keep thinking that. When the blades are out, we'll see who lives and who dies.

if is mylo you are going to follow otherwise you are just gamethrowing

[ika]

Hey Stigmata. You know who's an idiot? You are.

Guess who's probably not drawing a kill from you tonight? Why couldn't you exercise just a tiny bit of self-control and not fucking hard-claim when you could've easily done so tomorrow. You were a potential mislynch tomorrow meaning you wouldn't be night killed but you had to go and fucking reveal because you were uncomfortable with people not showering you in super town-reads

when they were effectively protection and would get you to tomorrow when you would be townfirmed

.

hey cirtus, are you scum? why didnt they just kill you last night? why did they kill grib?

[ika]

she claimed for me, so fuck off

[ika]

I mean I guess since I'm still alive it's not very likely I'd have drawn a night kill again but thanks for ruining that. Seriously, you fucking noticed I avoided claiming Acolyte as hard as I could ALL GAME and you STILL had to go and blow your damn trumpet. Ika kept repeating I'm acolyte AND you were safe from a lynch tonight BUT NO, you still had to ruin it. Good fucking job.

KNOW WHAT CIRTUS? I DONT GIVE A FUCKING DAMN RIGHT NOW. IM PISSED OFF SO FUCK OFF. I DONT GIVE FUCKING JACK IF STIGMA DIED TONIGHT OR NOT. I GET A FCUKIGN PREIST CHECK. AND UNLESS IF THE WITCHED WANT TO PLAY AGIANST ME THEY WILL CURSE STIGMA. OTHERWISE ANGLES WILL PROTECT HER

[ika]

if someone has something to ask of me, they are to ask it poitn blank. im really not in a good mood. and im trying not to let it leak out further into games then needed

[ika]

THEN WHY CLAIM??? If you were worried about a fucking counter-claim, an Ika check

would clear you

. I just don't even

im going to be perfectly blunt: its helps b/c shes a CONFIRMED town. what if she got killed anyway? what then? its wasted

now i dont have to watse my time with silly antics.

cirtus: point blank, who is the final scum?

[ika]

one person, build an entire case on them. nobody else

i want everyone besides stigma to do so.

[ika]

i need everyone to be in set thoughts on who they think is scum

[ika]

ok so heres where we stand

rubi suspects hiplop
abr supects rubi

we know the following:

cirtus survived n1 kill, so if its single kill tonight, hes prob final witch and we lynch him
if we have double kill cirtus is confirmed town by mechanics

[ika]

sigh i need to crunch numbers....

[ika]

huh, i think the game is won by numbers no matter how it goes......

[ika]

really i want nightfall to hit so i can sort tommorow

[ika]

can we end the day already?

[ika]

can we end the day already?

[ika]

dont worry we already have numbers on our side.

heres how its gonna go (yes this is anti-townish but still)

we nightfall, and stigma gets cursed (i still have double life)
mecanic states they can attack 2 diffrent targets.
they kill stigma

if they single kill it means it could be you but still suboptimal

if they double angles should protect you b/c it double confirms you as town for
-angle protection
-you would have 2 lives (and witch cant doublekill on 2 lives) so its mechanicly impossible for you to be witch

if they curse outside of stigma then angels heal stigma

[ika]

in the end, unless we have some fucked up thing happen, we cant lose

[ika]

i'll hammer in the morning unless someone objects or does it first

do it now

ive already foolproofed the game in our victory. the only way scums are going to win is by trying to out WIFOM me

[ika]

VOTE: zzzx

ok.

by the way, in case it was missed, I'm the fanatic

which is exactly why im not checking you

[ika]

i formaly ask that the last scum resign

im asking this out of the fact that theres almost no way to win and that draggin the game out is not going to do anything. I understand if the scum would like to continue but its going to be a battle the can not be won

[ika]

i am not askign this to be jerk (as some may take it) but its more of the fact i dont see too much of a need to continue the game at this point

[ika]

VOTE: cirtus

we play it safe

the person i checked is innicent but im no longer trusting it atm.

[ika]

scum is in here

Rubicon
Albert B. Rampage
MadCitrus

so after cirtus flip (if it goes thoguh), we are left with ABR and rubi and it sef resolves by ABR going off on rubi

[ika]

if cirtus is witch he currently has double life due to kill trick.

let me calculate real quick before i take you up on that

[ika]

ok i calculated it now.

VOTE: rubicon

i still see no way for them to get to the end if its nto over we lynch cirtus single first

[ika]

nah i rather play safe after thinking back

VOTE: cirtus

i want to hear imputs at least

[ika]

let me do my job first and try to figure things out. if you want to activeate and end the damn day go right ahead.

i rather make sure everything is covered first

[ika]

ok now i think i have it figured.....

VOTE: rubicon

assuming the shnainigans was not on hip hes town.

i asked if i check again would his results be shown as scum if hes scum, titus said yes

so 6 players

me - priest 2 lives (i checked on this as well there was no attempt)
unsight - alc
cirtus - apprentice taken ???
rubi - fanfic (1 life, did not check)
hiplop - bomber
ABR - cannon

so assuming rubi is not scum and ABR is not (hes in catch 22 to where he has to go off or edventaly be nked)

we go into night with:

me - priest 2 lives (i checked on this as well there was no attempt)
unsight - alc
cirtus - apprentice taken ???
hiplop - bomber
ABR - cannon

assuming cirtus is last he has to do single kills still. assume kill goes thoguh on single

me - priest 2 lives (i checked on this as well there was no attempt)
unsight - alc
cirtus - apprentice taken ???
hiplop - bomber

i will know for sure if hip is town or scum at this point. we lynch cirtus and he gains double kill. agels can protect one or both and we lynch him again for the win.

it also woeks in sense that ABR is alive b/c a failed lynch scum!fimrs cirtus

[ika]

rubi, seriously, im not having ABR go off. im covering ever sncario possible that can be made if you end up beign town. if your scum jsut admit it and we can gladly have AABR go off for lolz

[ika]

we lynch cirtus and he gains double kill. agels can protect one or both and we lynch him again for the win.

should we bet the game on that tho

it will be 2v1 at best with both player being confirmed town in the mylo

[ika]

i have 2 lives so i cant be touched, they can only cure one player from protection as well.

so even if he tries to kill both, one of them will make it

[ika]

or am i missing something/not understanding?

[ika]

how about this, you guys vote him, if he does not go off himself i will vote him as well and force a detoantion

p-edit: BECUASE IF I CAN BREAK THE DAMN GAME BY A MECHANIC THAT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR SCUMS TO WIN THE DAMN GAME I WILL

[ika]

if ABR/Rubicon is town on town and both of them die Today, do we lose if Citrus is scum?

most likely. it would becomea game of chance and outwifom the other

[ika]

In the very very unlikely event ABR is town, the real question is whether hiplop is scum who believed he needed to bomb his confirmed scum partner for cred, not Citrus who has been pretty town all game.

again, countered by me checking him again.

if his results are the same hes confrimed, if not hes scum.

[ika]

Do we know whether anyone has shot at you?

it would be announced like it was for cirtus.

@ABR, i rather have you detonate on cirtus. but if your locked onto rubi im gonna take it as a scum claim.

rubi has one life, cirtus (if is a witch) has 2.

the point is if your town, deotnatin on rubi is suboptimal

[ika]

RUBI SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY ABOUT THE DETONATION. IF HES SCUM IT WILL SELF RESOLVE.

[ika]

I think that Rubicon is scum. I will detonate on Citrus if Rubicon is dead and the game continues.

Rubicon seems to me like scum that wants to die because his cause is hopeless IMO.

your missing the mechanical and number standpoint.

if you detonate on rubi and both are town it leads t cirtus as scum winning most likely.

everyone else can put their votes on and if needed to get him to detonate i will

pedit: show me those said stats right now

[ika]

the most wierd one (yet i would be laughing) is if unsight was the final witch all aong

[ika]

know what fuck this, im fed up with your denseness

VOTE: ABR

[ika]

heres the math for each one:

Spoiler: rubi!scum

current:

Rubicon
Albert B. Rampage
Stigmata
ika
hiplop (replaces Jargonaut)
MadCitrus

ABR hits cirtus

Rubicon
Stigmata
ika
hiplop

i check hiplop again and confirm his alignment, 1 person dies

scum
ika
confirmed town

Spoiler: cirtus scum

current

Rubicon
Albert B. Rampage
Stigmata
ika
hiplop (replaces Jargonaut)
MadCitrus

ABR goes off on cirtus, cirtus survives

Rubicon
Stigmata
ika
hiplop (replaces Jargonaut)
MadCitrus

cirtus is mechanicly confirmed scum

Spoiler: ABR scum

current

Rubicon
Albert B. Rampage
Stigmata
ika
hiplop (replaces Jargonaut)
MadCitrus

ABR goes off on cirtus

GG

ANY QUESTIONS?

p-edit: ABR IF YOU ARE NOT DESIGNATED FOR CIRTUS AT TIME OF GOING OFF AND YOU ARE TOWN IM GOING TO BE PISSED

[ika]

If citrus is scum, he has two lives. He puts me at L-1, kills me, kills Rubicon, and tomorrow it's 1v1 with both town and scum with two lives, and scumm will win.

THATS WHY YOU DESIGNATE YOURSEFL TO CIRTUS.

im done talking here. ill wait for my prod

[ika]

Unvote me now. I don't have time to change my queue'd up action yet. If Citrus!scum puts me to L-1, town loses. Unvote me now.

In this timeframe you could of done it. heck i will time myself to make a post in my PT and tell you about how long it shoudl take

[ika]

took me an amazing 15 seconds.

and i was doign it the slow way as well the quick way takes 5 seconds

@stigma, you understand that me as kmer is the most broken thing?

@ABR you can post here, you can post in PT

[ika]

I think there's a problem with the Rubicon-hiplop-me-ika final four (both Rubicon-scum and hiplop-scum having 2 kills could leave me as Kingmaker w no info or w ika left alone w the last scum) What was wrong with your original plan?

mayeb to make it easier:

I have 2 lives so they cant kill me (rules state itmust be 2 DIFFRENT targets)

i check hiplop again in final 4, so his identity is confirmed to not be messed with

[ika]

my problem is that if ABR is final scum this is going to eb slowrolled and the fact hes so worried about CIRTUS vote and not HIPLOP vote (both would l-1 him no?) is funny

p-edit: again if you have enough time to post that here you have more then enough time to post it in a QT

[ika]

If hiplop kills me and Rubi, you and Citrus/Stigmata can kill him tomorrow since he has 1 life, but Citrus has two lives. Is that so?

only if hes a witch

oh look you posted here again, that must mean you changed targets.

tbh if you are town and cirtus is scum at this poitn he he make you detonate im not at fault. your at fault for not going to change it

p-edit: exactly

[ika]

I can't post in PT right now. I will do it tonight and chance my action to killing Citrus.

[ika]

ika: It looks like the only way for Stigmata to be scum is if Grib was the real Acolyte, and she knew that he was (by scum Inquisitor check). Is that right?

argubly. however i just did that argument for amusement.

if you iso grib doesnt give indications of being alcodite while cirtus+stig do.

i did think at one point i thought grib was for some odd reason

[ika]

If you don't unvote me now, and somebody hammers and kills both me and a hypothetically town Rubicon, it's on you. This is my final warning.

how is it only my fault? how comes its not rubis fault? how comes its nobody else fault?

your threats only want me to vote park even harder

[ika]

Well, short of ika.

you know in a setup where a fanfic (or any role of such) exist and someone shouts it and im the one who grants it, you basicly telling me to not check you

p-edit: hip claimed bomber
citrus persuado-claimed apprentice

rest were assumed as followed

atum: jest
grib: spirit
ZZZX: inqu

[ika]

Not sure what you're getting at. I mean, of all the people to 1v1 or threaten to kill as a strategy to stay alive, I am a really unwise choice. You're only worse because threatening to kill you would confirm him as scum.

Where did Citrus claim Apprentice?

I'm trying to go through your plan without assuming these claims are accurate, since there is

some

room for fake claims depending on what roles Atum and Grib were.

his iso.

[ika]

at this point i dont care about whos role is what.

ive already beaten it by mechainc

[ika]

then vote cirtus?

VOTE: cirtus

[ika]

holding back a vote wont change much

[ika]

good

VOTE: ABR

now we can do both and be happy

[ika]

I think doing both today will lose the game if it's hiplop and he manages two kills.

we have 4 players

me
you
hiplop
stigma

he cant kill 2 people and get away with it b/c agnels protection is garneteed to hit one of the 2.

i have 2 lives and he cant double target me as rules stated.

[ika]

seriously rubi its like your triing to piss me off. i have taken ever measure accunatable for each.

the only one that circumstates it is if stigma is final but even then i doubt that

[ika]

seriously rubi its like your triing to piss me off. i have taken ever measure accunatable for each.

the only one that circumstates it is if stigma is final but even then i doubt that

[ika]

tell me how he can mangae 2 kills rubi.

explain to me as if i have not already said how its impossible for him do it

[ika]

I'm not trying to piss you off, I'm trying to understand every detail of the plan myself, and I'm talking while I work things through. It's more fun that way.

do it in your PT then.

i see every concivable flaw as well as every patch for it and i assume the dead towns can figure it out as well.

[ika]

I am treating L minus 1 as deadline lynchminus 1

[ika]

sorry bout your wiki, Albert

it hasnt been updated for 6 month....

[ika]

yes i checked

[ika]

UNVOTE:

something not right

[ika]

or was it too late. im lost but something feels off

[ika]

im paranoid.

i need to find a post real quick, but i think grib was the real alcodite

[ika]

I'm at work, Citrus. I'll be home on time tonight -- please have dinner ready by the time I get home. <3

Anyway.

hiplop's case on fonti is. Kind of fun to watch.

@people scumreading me: why. Also, stop. You're wasting your time.

here, the bolded doesnt seem like spiritualist mindset, it feels more like a holy mindset.

[ika]

grib also has a consitency with me, he left me as a scum read for the day 1.

i would figure that he knows i was town but wanted to keep me hidden....

p-edit: kitty, shut up. you claim is beliveable as anyobody else atm

[ika]

the most glaring flaw (as already seen) with my mechanic plan is that its borken by sitgma!scum

[ika]

I don't really think Grib would pressure you the way he did as your Acolyte.

sigh...

im too lost into it now

VOTE: ABR

its probally more potimal to do cirtus alone but

give me 5 mins im isoing again

[ika]

knwo what im just going to wait for tommorow. if the game is not over with the ABR/cirtus thing

[ika]

At work but I'll post a bigger thoughs when I get home

GG

[ika]

I'm going to disagree with titus that we won by luck. It was entirely more of my first check and then unifying town

I'm still at work waxing but it's was not luck. It was town winning by actions and checks and poe

[ika]

ok huge thoughts:

setup: played it before so not much

the mian thing is that you did a sevral of non-normal things:
-DOB/BOD death IS announced and who it gives/hits
-bomb passing is known at end of day and lynch would kil before pass
-the double kill (i read the topic, the OP CLEARLY STATES its 2 DIFFERENT targets)

players:

font: now you know why you dont discredit me, i was the fucked up preiest. the deadliest role given to me. i was going to pull a carzy ass gambit and call you preist and i be alcodite and check you n1 but when i came back you fucked it all up.
i also wanted you to lead the angles persoanlly b/c the moment you found i was preist in dead you would know i know what im doing

Rubicon: me being the priest, when you came out and said "check me, check me" it was a sure fire sign of me NOT checking you. font was proablly right later that i should of checked you for live giving. but meh

Stigmata: the only reason i had you as scum was b/c i though cirtus was alcodite, everyone else was POED/unaligned with mist/ZZZX plus i disliked how you were discrediting the "dont follow cop" if im a cop and i say "follow me i know what im doing" odds are i know what im doing

hiplop: all i can say is gj with the bomb, i prob didnt need to check you and should of checked cirtus but ppl paranoiaed me too much

MadCitrus: i admired your ideas and stuff but really you should of gone with lynch trick, even if you did check trick (and i find inno on mist), i would of known it was scum jester, i was that confident on my read that it would of nailed you sooner. i think no trick might of been better tbh

Honey bee: gj, you were transparently town, i dont think you would of ever goten lynched if you didnt claim BOD, last game we had ours claim and didnt capsize on it so i took a page from that to do this time around

Mist7676: you replaced into a doom sloted tbh, i scum read your pretacetor and i would of killed you day 2 regardless. i knew you were scum but i knew i could never get the logic part of it so i just did the failsafe of preist check. i probally should of let it go a bit and then call you out to find more tells

Grib: welp, not much tbh, just grib funsies

Unsight: you did your part well tbh, you died sooner then expected but really set the table for scums downfall

ZZZX: tbh you were non-existant

Atum: poped in here and there but never really stood out, i was somewhat riht on you being gder though (apprentice)

Albert B. Rampage: you were in catch 22, i didnt think you were scum 100% but it was more of a failsafe

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that being said:

day 1 i tried to wifom every role i could think of to never give any indication i was preist. i found express early on by his posts of nothingness. folled by mist, i knew i would never be able to peg it offhand so i needed mod-evidence. i scumread font for being scum and if she was town she would lead angels

night 1: check mist to fullforce my day 2 idea

day 2: got feedback, now i should of waited a bit to let more tells out but i got impaitent. after that i decided to take a page from our old wh game where BOD offers self to give life out. i then took the idea of hiplop being bomber to bomb mist so my next check could go uninteruppted, i also took this chance to unite town under one single check instead of my own personal checks.

night 2: ZZZX scum

day 3: this is where my derp came in about cirtus!alc/stig!scum. i had it pegged to 1 of the 2 (minus hiplop bussing) so i jsut went along with this

night 3: hiplop (but i should of done cirtus)

day 4: kinda went out with me breaking the game by mechanics, there were some flaws that i knew of as well that could break it but it would of required
the alive scum
the dead scums
and angels prtection asll lining up to eliminate

the one fatal flaw (outside of shaninaigans, i would of still read hiplop town) was the doublekill:

attack me and kitty: both fail (life and protect respectivly), backupplan kicks in on me costing me anohter life and kills me

argubly then cirtus would have to gun someone else. but odds there are none really