I Love Fairies- massive, bjc, KittyMo (L-4)
bjc- Shinobi, Grib (L-5)
Drew-Sta- OkaPoka (L-6)
theelksspeaks- shinyskarmory (L-6)
OkaPoka- Drew-Sta (L-6)
(expired on 2014-07-03 00:22:00)
So you disagree with the vote on Kitty because its a random bandwagon but you jump on anyway? WTF?In post 24, I Love Fairies wrote:I don't like to vote unless I'm actually serious about lynching the person that I'm voting for, but, I guess it's scummy for me not to so or something (which I disagree with) so to oblige:In post 403, I Love Fairies wrote:Keep in mind that I don't vote unless I feel strongly about something.
VOTE: Kitty
Less random than the rest of the votes. Random bandwagon followers strike me as more likely to be scum than most, particularly if they don't provide any actual reasoning. Like, it's fine to vote for me, but if you're going to vote against me and not provide any reasons, how do you expect me to respond? I can't. That's unfair and that's how mislynches come about, and that's how scum wins. Thus, we can conclude that those who vote with no reason, whether bandwagoning or not, are scummy.
At least be honest and admit you're voting Kitty because she voted you.In post 27, Drew-Sta wrote:So you disagree with the vote on Kitty because its a random bandwagon but you jump on anyway? WTF?In post 24, I Love Fairies wrote:I don't like to vote unless I'm actually serious about lynching the person that I'm voting for, but, I guess it's scummy for me not to so or something (which I disagree with) so to oblige:In post 403, I Love Fairies wrote:Keep in mind that I don't vote unless I feel strongly about something.
VOTE: Kitty
Less random than the rest of the votes. Random bandwagon followers strike me as more likely to be scum than most, particularly if they don't provide any actual reasoning. Like, it's fine to vote for me, but if you're going to vote against me and not provide any reasons, how do you expect me to respond? I can't. That's unfair and that's how mislynches come about, and that's how scum wins. Thus, we can conclude that those who vote with no reason, whether bandwagoning or not, are scummy.
UNVOTE: OkaPoka
VOTE: ILoveFairies
Reading comprehension? I said my vote wasn't quite random.In post 27, Drew-Sta wrote:So you disagree with the vote on Kitty because its a random bandwagon but you jump on anyway? WTF?
UNVOTE: OkaPoka
VOTE: ILoveFairies
Christ, apparently you guys can't read. No, I gave my reasons. If you think my reason for voting is less legitimate than all the votes on me, tell me why.In post 28, theelkspeaks wrote:At least be honest and admit you're voting Kitty because she voted you.
VOTE: Fairies
In post 29, Grib wrote:I think ILF meant KittyMo jumping on her wagon with a wordless vote.
Let's see. Already five votes on a single person. Who is the sneaky scumbag slipping onto the ILF wagon? In an attempt to pull away from a KittyMo lynch?
Hey elk, would you say it's OMGUS if you vote for someone voting you, 100% all the time, regardless of context?
My theory: you don't just make the decision to jump on an RVS lynch wagon that you state you disagree with and have stated as such - that is opportunistic.In post 30, KittyMo wrote:Hi Gribblypuff, you called? I need another Fairies post before I get less tight-lipped.
I'll say that if Fairies is town then Drew looks a lot more opportunistic here to me than elk (whose reasoning is less strawman and more trying to read into her motivations.)
Hmm...In post 34, I Love Fairies wrote:How was I opportunistic? I voted on who I thought was scummy. If you read all of my other games, I don't care what the other votes are (save for L-2, I don't want early hammers), I vote what I think is right. It's why I'm very hesitant to vote at all times, I don't like being wrong, and when I think I'm right, it takes good reasoning to change my mind.
Don't get the misconception that my vote as RVS. My vote was a real vote.
Re the bolded. I looked at her reasons (at least the ones in her post that I could see - I may have missed some) - I just don't see the evidence. Like I said, I could have got this horribly wrong, but anyone jumping on an RVS wagon, for any reason (reason can be fabricated remember) is to me a opportunistic vote, especiallly with so little evidence present in a game only two pages old.In post 35, Grib wrote:Drew, it's good for generating counter-wagons to ease us out of RVS and really get the ball rolling. I think it's odd that ILF's wagon picked up speed so quickly. And when KittyMo had four votes on her.
ILF gave her reasoning for voting KittyMo. KittyMo hasn't given her reason for voting ILF, which is why ILF voted for her.(Also she clearly stated it wasn't an RVS? Are you reading her posts?) For Some Reason you're operating under the impression that she was thinking, "I disagree with the KittyMo wagon. VOTE KITTY!"
Vote: Drew-Sta
Second Vote: Drew-Sta
Tell me about yourself.
I posted my reasoning with my vote. I didn't say I thought Kitty to be mafia necessarily, just that I find her slightly more likely to be mafia than anyone else in the thread.In post 24, I Love Fairies wrote:I don't like to vote unless I'm actually serious about lynching the person that I'm voting for, but, I guess it's scummy for me not to so or something (which I disagree with) so to oblige:In post 403, I Love Fairies wrote:Keep in mind that I don't vote unless I feel strongly about something.
VOTE: Kitty
Less random than the rest of the votes. Random bandwagon followers strike me as more likely to be scum than most, particularly if they don't provide any actual reasoning. Like, it's fine to vote for me, but if you're going to vote against me and not provide any reasons, how do you expect me to respond? I can't. That's unfair and that's how mislynches come about, and that's how scum wins. Thus, we can conclude that those who vote with no reason, whether bandwagoning or not, are scummy.
Hm? I mean I think it's defensive of her (not opportunistic) to only really pay attention to the reasonless votes that are on her and not be looking at Boon or Shinobi, but I know from myDrew wrote:Kitty - why is Fairies not opportunistic given what she has done?
So. Are you scum or just a liability?In post 44, bjc wrote:tl;dr
Well, looking at his posts since forever, sarcastic, one lined nothings. So I doubt he's any more likely to be scum than anyone else, so he's probably just a liability.
My issue is you haven't explainedIn post 38, I Love Fairies wrote:I posted my reasoning with my vote. I didn't say I thought Kitty to be mafia necessarily, just thatIn post 24, I Love Fairies wrote:I don't like to vote unless I'm actually serious about lynching the person that I'm voting for, but, I guess it's scummy for me not to so or something (which I disagree with) so to oblige:In post 403, I Love Fairies wrote:Keep in mind that I don't vote unless I feel strongly about something.
VOTE: Kitty
Less random than the rest of the votes. Random bandwagon followers strike me as more likely to be scum than most, particularly if they don't provide any actual reasoning. Like, it's fine to vote for me, but if you're going to vote against me and not provide any reasons, how do you expect me to respond? I can't. That's unfair and that's how mislynches come about, and that's how scum wins. Thus, we can conclude that those who vote with no reason, whether bandwagoning or not, are scummy.I find her slightly more likely to be mafia than anyone else in the thread.
I must have miscounted, as I honestly thought it put you at L-2, which opens the possibility of a lynch happening too quickly. (I can't mention the game I am referring to, which I draw this negative experience from, where this happened on Day 1 due to it still being in play).In post 43, KittyMo wrote:+1 to recent Drew questions, though I would like to add that I'd like an explanation for jumping on Fairies as opposed to me? Was it just that you thought she'd put me at L-3 and I'd only put her at L-4? Cuz that particular choice is suspicious to me for <reasons>.
Diplomatic, and concerning, but it could be due to confbias.In post 43, KittyMo wrote:I'm curious about what people think of her first post. Would you expect that from town or scum?
See, this just makes your initial vote seem all the more suspicious. I maintain my vote.In post 46, I Love Fairies wrote:I was L-1 once, I think. I was okay with the lynch at the time though, because I figured both scum had to be on my wagon because the reasons for the votes on me where stupider than the reasons for the votes on me now. However, I have no reason not to buy your story so unless someone/something convinces me otherwise:
UNVOTE: Kitty