Open 539: Stacks on Stacks (This is Game...Over.)

[Acidic_TACO]

VOTE: Acidic_TACO. I have a stomach ache and your name isn't helping.

What if my name was AntiAcidic_TACO?
Also take some pepto.

[Acidic_TACO]

The site been down for anyone else?
I'm not sure about umbrage being scum due to nervousness, its the start of a new game.
VOTE: The Silver Bard
Because your avatar reminds me of a guy I know. I hate him. He steals my things.

[Acidic_TACO]

UNVOTE: ABR
VOTE: Acidic_Taco

Um...why?

[Acidic_TACO]

Um ok?

[Acidic_TACO]

UNVOTE: The Silver Bard
I still don't like your avatar

[Acidic_TACO]

Voting for yourself? Calm down bro lol.

[Acidic_TACO]

VOTE: anorway
Just seems to me like you're either trying to protect Venrob if hes scum or just bide time for something scummy.
Just doesn't smell right.

[Acidic_TACO]

VOTE: anorway
Just seems to me like you're either trying to protect Venrob if hes scum or just bide time for something scummy.
Just doesn't smell right.

What do you mean with something scummy? Waiting for the next wagon to kick off?

I was using the phrase "something scummy" to mean plan to initiate a wagon not wait for a wagon. I don't like evil plans...
Just keep in mind I may not be 100% serious all the time, I'm prone to joke and kid, its just in my nature.

[Acidic_TACO]

No, its like saying "game just ended, red has new scum meta! He's matching it very well! lynch him!"

FTR i thought he was town in both games by analysis, but had a gut feeling he was scum... But the meta is a match. Anyone want to make a town case on Red? because that would be good if someone could show him as town.

I'm sure I'm reading this wrong but you just said "No I'm not doing it because of my own personal convictions but my own personal convictions say that hes scum."
I really am not liking your posts, they just hurt my head and smell of scum. I'll read it over and over later to make sure I understand your meaning before I change my vote however.

[Acidic_TACO]

No, its like saying "game just ended, red has new scum meta! He's matching it very well! lynch him!"

FTR i thought he was town in both games by analysis, but had a gut feeling he was scum... But the meta is a match. Anyone want to make a town case on Red? because that would be good if someone could show him as town.

I'm sure I'm reading this wrong but you just said "No I'm not doing it because of my own personal convictions but my own personal convictions say that hes scum."
I really am not liking your posts, they just hurt my head and smell of scum.

I'll read it over and over later to make sure I understand your meaning before I change my vote however.

Albert, let's build a wagon on this. Taco has just bought himself a free ticket for the next time a wagon on Venrob starts off. "Look guys, I said x pages ago that I had to understand his meaning. I understand it now, he's scum."

So me saying I want to make sure I'm not fucking it up by reading something wrong makes me scum? Dude I'm tired and don't want to vote at the first thing that smells like scum this early in the morning. Or if I'm reading that wrong then please excuse the fact that I'm a dumbass.

[Acidic_TACO]

No, its like saying "game just ended, red has new scum meta! He's matching it very well! lynch him!"

FTR i thought he was town in both games by analysis, but had a gut feeling he was scum... But the meta is a match. Anyone want to make a town case on Red? because that would be good if someone could show him as town.

I'm sure I'm reading this wrong but you just said "No I'm not doing it because of my own personal convictions but my own personal convictions say that hes scum."
I really am not liking your posts, they just hurt my head and smell of scum.

I'll read it over and over later to make sure I understand your meaning before I change my vote however.

Albert, let's build a wagon on this. Taco has just bought himself a free ticket for the next time a wagon on Venrob starts off. "Look guys, I said x pages ago that I had to understand his meaning. I understand it now, he's scum."

So me saying I want to make sure I'm not fucking it up by reading something wrong makes me scum? Dude I'm tired and don't want to vote at the first thing that smells like scum this early in the morning. Or if I'm reading that wrong then please excuse the fact that I'm a dumbass.

You say you are not liking Venrob's posts at all. They smell of scum. Yet you don't vote him and you leave your vote on someone else who happens to have the most votes on him. And that vote was justified by "seems scummy, just doesn't smell right"... That reasoning seems a lot less convincing than what you're trying to say about Venrob now.

@RC, no I am not suggesting that. I'm not too much looking at interactions yet, I just need to find a first scum before I start doing that.

Theres no rush to lynch him, we have a few days to do so, chances are he's getting lynched anyway. The only real reason at this point I don't change my vote to him is a weakness of mine, with it seeming more and more thats hes scum I can see some glimmer of genuine frustration that I've had in the past where hes dug himself into a hole. Hes hiding something however so this genuine glimmer I said could be anything from him trying to save himself for the town if he has a power or something to him being scum. I don't believe he is a vanilla townie in the slightest.
So tl;dr I can relate to his position.
On the other hand however, I find his posts confusing, annoying and more scummy than genuine imo.

So I guess what I said about no reason to rush pointless when we can get rid of him now and save me the headache...
VOTE: Venrob

[Acidic_TACO]

Folding to nothing, I think hes scum and hes acting even more childish then when I voted him...

[Acidic_TACO]

Scum found

Albert B. Rampage is scum. Intentionally antagonizing someone who is allready pissed off seems like scumtactics.

VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

Somehow I doubt this will go anywhere...
Reason being, calling him scum for being rude isn't exactly the most sound reason. If he was scum he wouldn't need to do anything other then wait for the hammer to come down. What Albert said seems more like advice than an attack.

[Acidic_TACO]

Scum found

Albert B. Rampage is scum. Intentionally antagonizing someone who is allready pissed off seems like scumtactics.

VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

Somehow I doubt this will go anywhere...
Reason being, calling him scum for being rude isn't exactly the most sound reason. If he was scum he wouldn't need to do anything other then wait for the hammer to come down. What Albert said seems more like advice than an attack.

OK, if Venrob is town. Who is then scum? Just humor me be answering this.

Why? All you are is a comf town that with every post you make gets on my nerves more and more. I'm not going to give you a single hunch of mine til you stop acting so damn bossy.

[Acidic_TACO]

What the bard doesn't realize is that his ego is suppressing his ability to see even if I was scum, I wouldn't be dumb enough to openly oppose a comf town with another scum.

[Acidic_TACO]

Don't talk about ego if you can't even do a simple thing as list your second biggest scumread, because "someone is being bossy". It is either you having a to big ego yourself, or simply you refusing to give reads because you are scum.

In reality I just got of the hospital and am not feeling up to composing a read.
Also you lied about ignoring me, do I detect a similar temper?

[Acidic_TACO]

Don't talk about ego if you can't even do a simple thing as list your second biggest scumread, because "someone is being bossy". It is either you having a to big ego yourself, or simply you refusing to give reads because you are scum.

In reality I just got of the hospital and am not feeling up to composing a read.
Also you lied about ignoring me, do I detect a similar temper?

Yeah, I am being pissy, so I'll piss off to bed, and let you guys have your fun.

So based off this information I can conclude that he makes all his reads based off how mad you can make him.

[Acidic_TACO]

I still don't see how I'm scum...

[Acidic_TACO]

Still not sure how I'm scum...
ABR makes some good points about Desperado

Unvote
Vote: Venrob

That overexplanation is crazy scummy

Makes no sense to me in hindsight as Venrob was town, Venrob was nervous and under pressure.

Who gives a shit why you were voting him when you didn't know he was an IC? Your vote didn't require an explanation after the fact.

When Venrob tried to defend himself, seems counter intuitive now as a vote without an explanation is even more scummy to me then a vote with an over explanation.
VOTE: Desperado

[Acidic_TACO]

Retarded fluff huh?
Its my reasons, you could just say you don't like em.

[Acidic_TACO]

Yes. If your "case" can be totally shutdown by a cliche, it's retard fluff.

What cliche exactly?

[Acidic_TACO]

Hindsight is 20/20.

Thats a saying not a cliche. If you ignore the past you're bound to repeat it is another saying. I'm using past information to make a more informed decision.

[Acidic_TACO]

VOTE: Acid Taco

Was pretty much bandwagoning D1, with the exception of 139, when he decided to vote Venrob after being called out for bandwagoning.

Bandwagoning moves the game along. If you would like to play a game where the game doesn't move, please stare at a wall for five hours a day.
As for desperado, dude you had next to no reasons for your voting, that was my point.

[Acidic_TACO]

Wait, how did that unvote make him look town? I voted Taco for the exact same reasons as him. Is unvoting Taco because he doesn't know what he did wrong, even though he did something wrong, townish?

It's that he removed his vote when no one was calling him out for it. And that he said "that isn't a good tell at all," when scum aren't particularly concerned with the quality of the tells they use as long as they provide an excuse to make their votes.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Venrob. Yeah he went into too much detail with that unvote. Also failed to answer RedCoyote's question.

Vote: Venrob

Let's do this. L-2

And Venrob's flipout seems more angry than upset, which is a scum reaction.

Hell, the more I think about it, the more I think my gut is right.

VOTE: Venrob

It's the speed that worries me. Players usually only lose their cool like that after a fair bit of pressure. They have to get pushed to that point. Venrob was ready to pull the claim/self-vote card right from the get-go.

Will read thread soon
for now
VOTE: Venrob
because he didn't react nearly as bad in my last game with him when he was pressured in a similar fashion, from what i've seen skimming this thread

Forget about a replacement, I'm going to hammer him now.

Unvote, vote Venrob

Good riddance.

Ok, Tacobro, guide me through your logic. These are all examples of people jumping on the Venrob wagon. Do tell me, how is Desperado's specifically the most scummiest of all of the people that voted Venrob (except for the fact that he is the easiest target right now because others are voting him as well)?

His reasons were next to zero. Thats what I keep saying. He just voted just to vote from my point of view.

[Acidic_TACO]

Umbrage for the love of god please turn off capslock.

[Acidic_TACO]

His reasons were next to zero. Thats what I keep saying. He just voted just to vote from my point of view.

Then what do you classify Shockwave Rider's, Don't Vote Me's and Albert's votes under?

Along with my vote for Venrob I would classify them as unformed. You guys put in more then one sentence atleast.

[Acidic_TACO]

VOTE: TACO

MOAR VOTES ON TACO PLZ

My issue with this vote isn't based on anything other then your addiction to capslock. You need to seek help for your problem.
I'll say this also, I'm far from scum.

[Acidic_TACO]

YOU'RE SCUM YOUR OPINION DOESN'T MATTER

Oh great another fucking homophobe...

Theres a term for people like you, close minded, because if one little taught gets into your head then thats all that fills it. Not seeing alternatives and being blind, you're worse then scum in that respect.

Even if I was scum I wouldn't waste a night kill on you because of how much you help out the scum.

btw kidding about the homophobe part.

[Acidic_TACO]

Why would would Taco be making a case on Desp in this manner if they're buddies.

Because playing against win conditions is op.
Umbrage seems to just be off his rocker...

[Acidic_TACO]

btw that awful homophobe joke is EXACTLY what I mean when I say TACO is nervous scum

he's TRYING to act all cool and relaxed

but it's

not

working

It was a joke based on my sexuality and-
Wait..."acting cool and relaxed"? To me I'm acting like a wreck. If I'm calm to you I'd hate to see nervous.
Just lay off bro, I'm not scum. If anything with all your McCarthyism-ish mannerisms I'd think you're scum while trying to deflect all the blame away from you. But seeing as thats only a wild theory and I honestly don't feel it necessary to vote you, I'm only stating it for future reference when you somehow manage to kill me and it turns up I'm town.
We are now playing poker, I raised.

[Acidic_TACO]

Also, umbringe, wheres albert? I thought he was right under me in the scum standings.
You're acting like a paranoid wreck even more then me, I'd tone it down a little with the witch hunts. Make it a big foot hunt instead, look for one definitive thing, the scum, and stop shooting at anything that even smells like a scum, make your shots count.

[Acidic_TACO]

YUP RC'S THE BUDDY

GG

Who?

[Acidic_TACO]

YUP RC'S THE BUDDY

GG

Who?

Oh Coyote

[Acidic_TACO]

I'm not scum still. I'm 90% sure I don't even have to defend myself from your witch hunting. You're not helping the town much.

[Acidic_TACO]

Is anyone else playing or it just me and umby?

[Acidic_TACO]

Taco and shockwave just shot way up on my scumdar in the last 2 pages. Shockwave for making a completely off-the-wall post. Taco for trying to divert attention to me by pawning off the work to Umbrage.

Unvote, vote Shockwave

I was informing him he missed you in his list not saying you were scrum.

[Acidic_TACO]

Why would would Taco be making a case on Desp in this manner if they're buddies.

Because playing against win conditions is op.
Umbrage seems to just be off his rocker...

Are you seriously calling bussing playing against your wincon?

Nah, just being sarcastic.

[Acidic_TACO]

So much scum in these posts by Taco and Shockwave.
UNVOTE: Anorway
VOTE: Acidic_Taco
And oh god that homophobe/close-minded comment was cringeworthy.

I guess my humour is rather incorporate after all.

[Acidic_TACO]

HEY ACIDIC

HEY REDCOYOTE

I DARE YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE EACH OTHER'S EXISTENCE

I DOUBLE DARE YOU

He exists..?
I don't get your point...

[Acidic_TACO]

if you bus Acidic and Shockwave super hard right now we won't kill you until like lylo or something

You got it chief!

Unvote
Vote: Taco

this is one of the most blatantly obvious examples of scum folding to pressure that I've seen

good job

I just remembered this little gem.

[Acidic_TACO]

Taco, who do you have a townread on?

TvK is the only one that I would trust 100%.
Nothing really has come up to convince me otherwise at all.
On the "Eh, doesn't smell like scum" category (Alphabetical because I can't think of another way to list):
Albert B. Rampage
anorway
Dont_Vote_Me
RedCoyote
In the scum category in order of scummyness:
Umbrage
Desperado
FormerFish

If you're not on that list then I don't have that much of a read.

[Acidic_TACO]

I've been implying that Umbrage is scum more then outright saying it. Sorry.
Hes just acting so...erratic and desperate for a lynch I'm pretty sure he doesn't even give a shit I'm town. If he gets me to L1 then I'll claim but I doubt even if I said I was Jesus himself that he wouldn't care.

[Acidic_TACO]

I read #231 as "Umbrage, how come Albert is not on your scum list anymore?" as an appeal to a player you implicitly thought of as town, to motivate his non-scumread on me, who you imply is scum, or else why would you ask him that?

It was more of a sarcastic comment on in his haste to list scum he forgot someone whom he had thought of scum before. I wasn't trying to get him or anyone to go after you.

[Acidic_TACO]

if you bus Acidic and Shockwave super hard right now we won't kill you until like lylo or something

You got it chief!

Unvote
Vote: Taco

this is one of the most blatantly obvious examples of scum folding to pressure that I've seen

good job

I just remembered this little gem.

What do you mean by this?

I mean that its funny how he called me scum when it looked like I was folding to pressure then he pressured someone else to vote with him.

[Acidic_TACO]

Claim time already?
I'm a body guard for town. The one that dies when he uses his power successfully.

[Acidic_TACO]

Umbrage is scum for when you lynch me and see I was telling the truth

[Acidic_TACO]

Huh? I protected TvK cause I derped and sent the wrong name. I was gonna put TSB but my brain isn't the best. Tbh I didn't think the scum would go for him because hes technically just a vanilla townie that has more weight.

[Acidic_TACO]

Also just saying but I can get on every day a few times, I can't get on for some time in between however.