The Fortnight (Game Over)

[kuribo]

quil lets play the meta game, can you link me to any games where youve proposed such a useless rvs before as town? how about as scum. tyvm.

oh God don't ask him to do this. last time I called him scummy for a meta proveable reason, he literally wrote a book citing every time he had done it as town.
Literally. he quoted me on its cover.

[kuribo]

I'm not sure if Ben scum would knowingly push an obvious townhouse scenario.

RQS is and always will be stupid.

[kuribo]

Town lose not townhouse. time to turn off auto correct

[kuribo]

Anyone that's played with me for a hot second ever knows I'm town

I usually read you as town anyway since ive never seen you as scum

[kuribo]

Kuribo, quack mafia you always forget

God dammit youre right. i cant even read you as scum in a game from last year despite knowing you were scum

[kuribo]

Anyone who thinks they can read DGB after six pages is full of shit

[kuribo]

Kuribo pull it together Jesus

Gambit or not, you know im right

[kuribo]

DGB is scum I've played enough games with her to know when she's scum ty

I have read her correctly in every game ive ever played with her, and i'm not sure yet.

[kuribo]

so what about matt and kanye are they scumbuddies or are they just good at reading each other

Apparently i cant read matt worth shit
and i always find kanye scummy

except when hes scum

i dont feel the argument between them is genuine on either of their parts. im leaning to the idea that it was setup, maybe to catch scum

[kuribo]

Kuribo, master detective in action

I have a PHD in Rage with a Bachelors in Bitchfighting, i can smell fake rage most of the time

[kuribo]

T-bone did you look at this player list and think lurkerville? why complain about volume of posting when we only have two weeks?

DGB is right oversoul, that was a dumb question.

Scum cant really afford to be ballsy, can they? since theyre lovers? anyway, ben was scum in Wire Season 1 and lurkaderped all game after i yelled at him. dunno if thats consistent with his usual scumplay though

[kuribo]

DGB is right oversoul, that was a dumb question.

TWO dumb questions. Then some whining when called out on it.

pretending to be hunting while not actually participating?

[kuribo]

um why am i not on that list?

Because you asked why youre not on the list, for one

[kuribo]

He made the list before I asked.

No, what i meant is that if you have to ask why someone doesn't think you are town, you arent very town.

even more, you wondered aloud why he thinks others are more town than you.

the way i phrased it was what we call sarcasm. it is a method of saying things indirectly when you dont want to yell at them

that last sentence was what we call condesending. its a method of speaking to someonne that you feel wouldnt get the point.

[kuribo]

Ben, are you drunk?

you did lurkaderp after i yelled at you

KURIBO IS SCUM
KURIBO IS A JERK AND I DONT CARE IF HE IS SCUM
oh hi i am out of the country
yay i got engaged
Shit its endgame, CAMN IS SCUM

that was you

[kuribo]

Holy shit, 10 pages already? brb reading.

/confirm

Thanks for your contribution. You are an asset to the town.

[kuribo]

KEEP IN MIND THAT L-1 IS PRACTICALLY L-0 BECAUSE IF THE "SCUMMIER" SCUMBUDDY ISNT YET ON THE WAGON THEY CAN HAMMER, GET KILLED AND LEAVE US IN A FUCKED UP SITUATION

Shit youre right


Matt's now my first solid town read.

[kuribo]

Holy shit, 10 pages already? brb reading.

/confirm

Thanks for your contribution. You are an asset to the town.

This comment is so cliche and overused, that I think I need a break.

@Mod

- Why is the deadline April 17th, are we planning on breaking time itself?

Its overused because its true.

you had no need to go LOLOLOL SO MUCH PAGESSSSSSSS ME AM READ NPW

you coulda just... read.... and then.... you know.... posted

[kuribo]

DGB...you said the choices were Mattscum or tasered? Have you settled on tasered?

I'm not sure. I need to see more.

@ kuribo - You should trust my Overscum read and sheep me. Everyone else, too.

i dont like the wagon on you. early DGB wagons worry me

I do want to know what oversoul hoped to accomplish with that ridiculous line of questioning.

[kuribo]

What the fuck

dont actually follow bens suggestion and list best to worst

thats a terrible idea

[kuribo]

DGB: if we mislynch, the rules say scum gets to remove one of tjemselves from the accusation pool. i dont want to give them a nice prioritized list of who i find scummier if that happens

make them work for that shit

example, say player A gets mislynched, and most of us have said Player B is next scummiest. why would they leave player B around?

[kuribo]

oversoul, we're not playing this mastermind bullshit

maybe this will quicken your tongue

Vote: Oversoul

[kuribo]

i hate, hate, hate HATE that "oh i did this and i have reasons but you don't get to know them"

[kuribo]

^Thats not bad... but its going to make D1 harder I imagine as people will "hide" reads... And I'm going to need to read peoples thought process when I get to show off how much better I am.

So the idea of "hiding" doesn't sound good to me.. and likely can cause us to misfire D2.

and lemme go back to this

I'm not suggesting people hide their reads, I'm saying we shouldn't give scum a roadmap

Let them figure out on their own what passages are safe

[kuribo]

Have you played with OS before.

I have, but I died fairly quickly after repeatedly softclaiming doc for no reason as is my habit when I'm a doc

also OS was scum in that game

[kuribo]

I think it's clear which of the two of us knows OS better if that's all the experience you got with him.

then kindly tell your friend to stop being anti-town

[kuribo]

see if you follow:

At the time of the sign up thread, no one's alignment had been determined yet.
Regardless of why Ben joined or how hard he fought to get into the game, his alignment still had not been determined yet.
Ergo, there is no possible information regarding his alignment to be gleaned from the question.
When pushed, Oversoul simply replied that there was a reason for the question and he had a plan.
When pushed further, Oversoul simply replied that etc etc etc

All he had to say was "Shit, you're right, I'm an idiot" but instead he plays the "I GOTS A PLAN YOU GUYS"

no. Just no. Next you'll say we should divine peoples' alignments based on the color of their avatars.

[kuribo]

I'm not going to capitulate to your cookie cutter design of how you think I should be playing Kuribo.

I don't understand why you guys think this is solely reliant on how Ben acted in the signup thread.

because the "question" you keep insisting he answer is ridiculous and if you're going to keep pushing it, you need to have a good reason

it's reliant on the sign up thread because YOU LITERALLY ASKED HIM WHY HE SIGNED UP FOR THE GAME

[kuribo]

who the fuck is greygnarl and why is he stealing my schtick?

[kuribo]

its right in the op
literally line 1 of the sample pm

If you read the sample scum PM, why did you ask the mod if they get to accuse?

sample PM says they do, but that it does nothing

[kuribo]

Makes sense

BBMolla, if you feel the case on you is bad, why did you respond with what you admit is a stupid question? Is Kid A scum pushing a tough sell, or derptown in your estimation?

[kuribo]

Oversoul, yes, there are stupid questions

at best, you are wasting our precious time by demanding answers to questions that have no possible bearing on the game

at worst..... same thing really

[kuribo]

By pretending to provide content and muddying the waters in a game where we have exactly two weeks to catch scum. all through pointless questions.

[kuribo]

And i dony actually give a fuck to ask where you were going with such a stupid question

and i assure you the correct answer is never lololol just trust me guys

[kuribo]

Hey oversoul

do you feel DGB is tunneling or scum?

[kuribo]

Over if you knew my meta, you'd know i find lololol mastermind to be annoying and scummy

i had an epiphany about DGB's wagon and if my theory is correct, theres probably at least one scum on it or having been on it

[kuribo]

The epiphany is:

scum lose if even one of them gets caught out
scum dont get a nightkill
scum then needs to figure out who the top scumhunters are and hope for a mislynch on them

i honestly feel theres a strong possibility that DGB is town and the wagon is an attempt to prevent her ever-changing reads from landing on one of them

DGB is provably a top scumhunter and a danger to a team that cant NK her

her wagon smells gross

[kuribo]

Finding kanye hard to read is not indicative of his alignment though. same with CES.

defending you may be good enough to have you read venmar as town, but its not for me

BBMolla needs to come back and finish what Kid A started with him

agree about matt but he knows i cant read him

[kuribo]

DGB, alternatively, scum could send home the active player and leave the town stuck with the lurkscum

only works if there are other lurkers or blatantly scummy town

therefore posting is more important than ever to avoid creating a lurkmass

[kuribo]

Kid A is so town that i wanna double check that hes not an Innocent Child

Pedit: appeal to emotion is so bad, overscum

[kuribo]

Kid A is so town that i wanna double check that hes not an Innocent Child

Pedit: appeal to emotion is so bad, overscum

Smack a vote down.

I see a lot of talk, but no real commitment.

im already voting you, captain literacy

[kuribo]

Haha, koala-san?

I probably suspect kuribo the most right now.

Oh for christs sake is it that time of year already?

didnt we already prove in Gay Mafia 2 that you cant read me?

[kuribo]

Quilford, you may be right. i just remember yelling at ypu and then you wrote a book for me and then DGB killed me

[kuribo]

Counterwagon stalling too much ben?

[kuribo]

Gosh if we lynched Oversoul I'd feel good about it at this point.

Why am i so lonely on his wagon then?

jacob, is an uphill scum win a problem for you?

[kuribo]

And you know what's a really, really good vote? Oversoul.

I keep seeing people say this, but yet they keep piling onto you.

[kuribo]

I like Matt's line of questioning. I'll allow it.

[kuribo]

VOTE: dgb

Pretty sure at least one of DGB Tbone is scum. Might be both.

Why is this? Elaborate.

[kuribo]

VOTE: dgb

Pretty sure at least one of DGB Tbone is scum. Might be both.

Why is this? Elaborate.

[kuribo]

Yeah well I guess my problem with kanye and kuribo is that they both seem uncharacteristically unfocused.

I'm trying to get through a two-week game without dragging anyone into a pissing and shouting match for 40 pages while the scum giggles from the sidelines and the town gets decimated. And for the record, trying to yell at this playerlist in order to establish reads on them wouldn't work anyway.

It's very new for me, but to call me unfocused is bullcrap--- I do have reads, and I've stated them very, very clearly. Your assertion about me simply posting about meta and speculation is absolutely wrong.

[kuribo]

Quilford, I find CES notoriously hard to read (he doesn't post much as town or scum)

Kanye I always find scummy except when he's scum, so I'm trying to repress that bias and read him without that in place.

My DGB read does lean town, but it's still early. I've never been wrong about her, but I know she can be tough even for me to read early on. I don't like the wagon on her at any rate.

Kanye and CES were scum together in Revolution Mafia. We got CES lynched, but I was reading kanye as town in that game.

I don't like GuyInFreezer's Beetlejuice act, but the game started on a weekend, so I suppose I understand it.

And, for the record, I'm not liking Venmar right now either. His posts are the very definition of playing it safe and watching shit go down.

[kuribo]

i guess i just find it weird that you haven't been raging as much and also you are asking a lot of questions

In the Wire Season 1, I tried raging at people specifically to get a reaction out of them. I read Benmage as town for quite a long time in that game because I thought his reaction was town. My shit-flinging allowed jason and Ben both to lurk endlessly and derailed pretty much the entire game for about 30 pages.

in a game with these mechanics, I really don't feel like going through that bullshit again

[kuribo]

And, for the record, I'm not liking Venmar right now either. His posts are the very definition of playing it safe and watching shit go down.

I am the definition of awesomeness, actually.

This is not the correct response.

You should consider bussing Oversoul

[kuribo]

What exactly is town about not stating reads, asking pointless questions, demanding answers to the same, and then refusing to explain himself to the town at large?

He's not even interested in finding scum because he probably intends to flee.

[kuribo]

And to answer the question he asked of someone else, i do have a problem with him playing close to the vest. instead of trying to ice the game with a lynch on scum, he seems to be making himself unreadable in preparation for his fleeing

[kuribo]

The reason i dont like the idea pf playing close to the vest is because most of our information can be gained in this phase

if we mislynch, scum flees and all we have in the way of associative tells are connections with the fled scum

Oversoul is not an idiot. i think he knows he's setting us up for a tough read if he manages to flee today

[kuribo]

Clearly taking advantage of the fact that everyone says he is hard to read.

Pretty sure I'm just busy.

Im quoting this to make sure DGB will notice. She knows why.

CES, short of wasting towns time with dumb questions, many of my oversoul criticisms apply to you. Do you have any reads or opinions?

[kuribo]

Oversoul, i lean town on her.

also, you are seriously playing the "I WUZ JUST TROLLIN U GUYZ" card? You cant CARNIVAL OF LUNACY with me here and expect to get away with it

and dont pretend i hadnt already explained why i find you scummy

[kuribo]

Well conratulations, if youre scum, youve made your slot hard to read via associative tells, spent upwards pf 20 pages muddying the waters by trolling, and possibly kept the heat off your buddy

if youre town.... god, i cant imagine such a thing

[kuribo]

You did? I haven't read much since page ~19 or something.

hey fuck you

Stop fucking him and vote him.

[kuribo]

Im not arguing that he should be punished. im arguing that he's scum. i've explained why scum would do what he did.

you say it isn't a scumtell, but is it a towntell?

Disregarding the pointless or vague, his ISO is pretty much void of content.

Now his lololol trollin admission just leads me to believe he thinks he can talk his way out of it

[kuribo]

Ben, im not rewriting history, you specifically used our argument and said it was one of the reasons you werent posting.

whether it was true or not, you still said it

i took alot of lessons from that game. i refuse to give scum a place to hide through pointless pissing matches in this game

[kuribo]

In fact ill even add that my rage was a detriment in that game. i had you pegged as scum and even tried to 1v1 you. but town largely ignored you in part because after our fight, i declared you town.

thats not rewriting history. its recognizing my failures and weaknesses.

pedit: gotta wait till i get home to quote other threads

[kuribo]

Ben, im not rewriting history, you specifically used our argument and said it was one of the reasons you werent posting.

whether it was true or not, you still said it

i took alot of lessons from that game. i refuse to give scum a place to hide through pointless pissing matches in this game

Please quote this revision for me.

My bad, it was Jason that used our pissing match as an excuse to lurk:

long post, spoiler tag coming up. Part of my lack of activity is down to being so far behind, that kuribo/ben thing really turned my head and really put me off this game, the more I didn't look, the further I got behind...

withdrawn

[kuribo]

Kuribo please give your opinions of Ghostlin and GG and try to be fair babe

I don't necessarily agree with all of Ghostlin's posts, but I do think he seems to be genuinely scumhunting.

Greygnarl's posts are going to give me an ulcer from repressing my murderous rage. If Oversoul wasn't practically caught scum, I'd probably be on either Venmar or gnarl.

First off there isn't a wagon on me.

This right here is one of the reasons why--- I dislike the LALALALA NOBODY WANTS TO LYNCH ME LALALA attitude, as you know, Matt. Even if the votes aren't necessarily there, there's enough concern about greygnarl's posting that he ought to be at least a bit concerned.

See, while flailing in the face of a wagon worries me, it also worries me when it seems like people are trying not to look like they're worried. Do you know what I mean? It makes sense in my head.

[kuribo]

VOTE: Venmar

I can see him and Overosoul or him and DGB being a team.

the very fact that GG posts this is almost enough to make me discard MY inkling of an Oversoul / Venmar team



and why would Venmar and DGB make a good fit?

[kuribo]

I actively try to look like I am not worried about votes on me as both alignments so that is null.

pedit: cuz of the fact that someone said dgb is distracting and gonna flee and Venmar is playing the sheep game.

Why would you do that? It looks fake as shit when people do that.

I don't think DGB would flee in this game. I think DGB-scum would feel she could talk her way into massive townreads in Post-Day. I have other thoughts about how DGB would probably play this as scum, but I'm keeping them to myself just in case I'm reading her wrong. (which doesn't happen, but still)

Fact: DGB posts A LOT regardless of alignment. This is provable fact.

Question: You said "someone" said she's "distracting and gonna flee." Do YOU feel she's distracting? Or are you just parroting?

[kuribo]

Why's oversoul caught scum again?

Pointlessly distracting the town by demanding that YOU answer questions that have no bearing on the game
Dragging it out for many many pages by insisting that he had a LOLOLOLOL SECRET PLAN
Finally giving up and saying "JUST KIDDING YOU GUYS I WAS TROLLING and my secret plans didn't work!"
and then saying "By the way I'm not really reading the game anyway"
and finally "But I'll provide content soon, I promise!"
Even HE admits that my suspicion is "credible"

It is the assertion of the prosecution that the defendant, Funkroy P. Oversoul has willfully and negligently engaged in activities which have hampered and obstructed the wheels of justice in this town with the intent to flee from custody, leaving in his wake an unreadable mess of an ISO that would make it impossible to easily find his scum buddy in Post-Day.

And, if it may please the court, what the fuck, Ben, I literally posted the case against him on the VERY SAME page in which you were responding to me.

[kuribo]

^see right there is where I was trying to actively look like I didn't care.

wait, so you were pretending not to care... in order to garnish a town read? Is that what you said?

[kuribo]

hi

In case it isn't obvious my scumhunting skills probably line up with Ghostlin's. I actually know where they are on the spectrum though and that is why I limit myself to observations hoping that someone else might realize that A or B that I point out is scummy.

by the way, I tried four times to understand this post and all i got was BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

[kuribo]

pedit: yes kuribo

you...


you...


you intentionally attempted to garnish an artificial town read from people by ignoring your wagon?


and you think this is a good thing?

congratulations, I'm speechless. and filled with fury that I'm not going to unleash into the thread.

[kuribo]

So you were afraid of looking like you were flailing?

[kuribo]

kuribo come on... what would scum gain from this sort've truth? You think grey's the scum mastermind ring leader?

He could be getting coached, though

"Quick! Tell them the truth! Truthfulness always looks town!" etc

[kuribo]

ugh

on the one hand, too scummy to be scum is a logical fallacy
on the other hand, greygnarl isn't exactly known for his manipulation skills
on the third hand, Oversoul is still really scummy
on the fourth hand, greygnarl keeps digging himself deeper
on the fifth hand, I tend to get distracted arguing with people
on the sixth hand, Oversoul doesn't even care how deep he digs himself
on the seventh hand, humans only have two hands anyway.

ugh my painbrain.

[kuribo]

kuribo come on... what would scum gain from this sort've truth? You think grey's the scum mastermind ring leader?

He could be getting coached, though

"Quick! Tell them the truth! Truthfulness always looks town!" etc

You're reaching now.

I don't think I'm reaching. We know scum have daytalk as evidenced by the sample PM and by the fact that there are no nights anyway.

Why couldn't someone be coaching him? If here were your scumbuddy, wouldn't you coach him?

[kuribo]

Matt, you might be on to something here

how is it any different from Oversoul's behavior though? I agree that gnarl's responses to my questions are scummy as hell. Right now, I'm starting to feel rope on either of them has a good chance of netting us scum.

pedit: how is Oversoul low-hanging fruit when for ages I was the only one on him?

[kuribo]

Or I could be telling you guys exactly why I do stuff to try to show that I'm town fucking up.

The fact that you're aware enough to type this makes it not-a-towntell

[kuribo]

Thinking about that RQS bizniss, it's probably a tiny mild towntell on Quilford. Why would scum want to draw attention to themselves by asking such pointless questions? Though you never know, people do bungee jump.

Junpei did RQS in Red Dead Redemption.

[kuribo]

Junpei did RQS in Red Dead Redemption.

Was he scum?

Yeah, he was my scumbuddy in that game. It was the one where you and me beat the crap out of Mist Beauty.

[kuribo]

OH! And Quilford should remember that--- he was in Red Dead too--- DGB, you hid behind him and breadcrumbed it, but MoI replaced him overnight (and killed me) and the slot got lynched the next morning.

[kuribo]

Kuribo, Red Dead is mostly eaten. I'm pretty sure it doesn't even have it's full Day 1.

Correction. It was entirely eaten, which is why chesskid's lyncher win will forever go down as unforgotten.

Doesn't change the fact that it happened, though.

[kuribo]

Once one of the scum flees, though, any continuing wagon analysis or interaction goes out the window. We all become third party.

If we don't lynch right today, the ONLY interactions we'll be able to judge from the fleeing scum is whatever they post today. They won't be around to incriminate or defend their scumbuddy.

[kuribo]

I'm feeling better about benmage again

I will say this. If we don't lynch GG he will flee. And when he flees I was be absolutely livid that you made me lose the game.

me?

He specifically said greygnarl. Guilty conscience much?

[kuribo]

Ghostlin, you're forgetting: what if both scum have garnered a lot of suspicion? there may not be a stronger scum player.

Counterwagoning is tough when you have only one buddy. there may be qagons on both scum.

conversely, the possibility exists that neither scum is a weak link

Oversoul, in my estimation is still the scummiest. He may be planning to flee, but he is definitely not a bad player.

[kuribo]

Oh please. does this ring a bell:


FUCK YOU ALL I AM A GOD

Enter, raise hell, flee. Sounds exactly like what you would do as scum.

[kuribo]

Oh i get what ypu meant by "me?" you think he was accusing you specifically of costing him the game


withdrawn

[kuribo]

OS you listed reasons why GiF is possibly scum.... then call him town?

[kuribo]

Unless you're Kid A, calling me scum is scummy itself.

Why Kid A?

[kuribo]

If i day his name three times, will greygnarl appear in the thread?

greygnarl

greygnarl

beetlejuice


err i mean greygnarl

[kuribo]

Nobody's strongest read is CES, ever.

I can back this shit up

I also think it's a shitty strong scumread in theory, even though I think CES has been useless this game

But on page 40 if the best you can do it

that

there's something wrong as shit

Revolution Mafia. My strongest scumread was the CES / Regfan hydra Concision.

to be fair, it was his pushes on SpyreX and Fate that tipped me off in that game.

[kuribo]

Thats not why OS is scum, TBone

[kuribo]

No my issue with him isnt the secrecy. Though as i said, its not helpful.

my issue is secrecy excused by trolling and an apparent agenda of being chaotic

[kuribo]

I feel we have to stick to conventional methods of scumhunting at some point, otherwise we're random mass-guessing.

I agree, which is why I believe today to be the most pivotal point--- As long as both scum are still in the game, we have more potential information to gather before one of them skips town and ruins any chance of associative reading going forward.

[kuribo]

You're trying to push YOUR wagon?

I gotta admit, that would be an interesting way of approaching this setup

[kuribo]

I want to see your case Venmar

me too, except replace case with penis and also case



seriously, though, Venmar, if you want people to actually vote greygnarl, you should be willing to post the case--- otherwise, you're not really "pushing" the wagon, you're just kinda along for the ride

[kuribo]

im gonna guess this silence is you running to your qt for help

VOTE: bbmolla

He definitely knew scum had day talk.

We all knew, it's in the sample role PM. Also there are no nights anyway.

[kuribo]

my pre-invitation said mafia lovers and afaik lovers always have daytalk so thats why i thought scum had daytalk

quick look at the op confirmed it

this is weak as shit, though

[kuribo]

my pre-invitation said mafia lovers and afaik lovers always have daytalk so thats why i thought scum had daytalk

quick look at the op confirmed it

this is weak as shit, though

allow me to explain why I think it's weak:

This game has somewhat complicated mechanics. Not the MOST complicated, but somewhat complicated.

I personally have gone back to the OP several times just to make sure I'm making the right assumptions about the setup. I don't want any surprises.

HOWEVER, his first reaction here is "I thought mafia lovers always had daytalk. And also I pre-in'd" And for the record, I also pre-inned, and I don't recall seeing anywhere that they would have daytalk. It almost seems like he was caught off-guard and wasn't sure how to respond.

[kuribo]

so anyone got a decent read on ces because i need that

DO YOU SEE THIS ATTEMPT TO DERAIL THE DISCUSSION ON HIM

THIS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS

ITS SO PATHETIC

VOTE: JacobSavage
subject to change

and then he does it again!

[kuribo]

i dont have to address mattp in every single post, if mattp just posts "vote kid a" but with more words whats the point trying to counter it when there's no argument in the post

No, but this is you:


Prosecutor: Your honor, this man is a murderer. Here is the proof. Blood spatter analysis shows that
You: Wait, hold up. I know a guy that kicked his dog once.
Prosecutor: Stop changing the subject. DNA evidence conclusively shows that the defendant
You: One of my friends is a cat burglar.

[kuribo]

not really in court everyone else has to stop what theyre doing for me to talk about dumb shit but in mafia you can keep on discussing whatever you want while i sort out my vote

okay so what exactly was stopping you from explaining your vote on Jacob when you made it?

[kuribo]

Kuribo, I'm feeling the idea of 'reads or rope' right now. What do you think?

I'm wondering where the hell greygnarl is while all of this is going on, actually.

[kuribo]

yo im working on the table now

so far I have

JacobSavage
Scum
Medium
-*Towncredfishing*
-Lurky
-Fencesat Oversoul
-Vote DGB (no wagon)
-First on Ghostlin w/ misrep
-Unvoted Ghostlin (no wagon)
#502 - scum pov
#687 - misrep

Venmar
Town
Low
-*Lurk excuse*
-DGB Wagon (NRSN)
-RSN: Apes MattP w/ gut talk & meta talk
-Doesn’t like OSSCUM
-Doesn’t restate things
-Swung to GG battle after being sure on DGB
#306 – possible OS buddying

nothing for ces because nobody would help me

high/low/medium is confidence in read/strength of read
pretty sure the rest of it speaks for itself

working on Quilford now

i promised myself i wouldn't yell at anyone

at least unless / until we become third party, because it distracts from scumhunting and makes the game less fun

MattP, I am officially requesting permission to shout at Kid A "THAT ISN'T EVEN FUCKING READS WHAT THE HELL, I CAN BARELY READ IT LET ALONE ASSUME THOSE ARE ACTUAL READS! ARE YOU JAMES FUCKING PATTERSON?! DO YOU SPECIALIZE IN WRITING ILLEGIBLE DRIVEL AND PASSING IT OFF AS ART?! WHEN THE FUCK WILL YOU STOP RECYCLING PLOTS FOR ALEX CROSS BOOKS?!"

[kuribo]

wait

one of the points against venmar is that venmar doesn't like the idea of OS as scum

but he also says venmar is buddying OS

i... i...

[kuribo]

greygnarl explain your scumread on venmar because it looks to me like youre still pushing the scum-lurker read from a while back even though it doesnt apply to him anymore

[kuribo]

How do you accuse greygnarl of pushing the scum-lurker read on venmar and then DO THE EXACT SAME THING?!

How do you accuse Venmar of parroting reads and do the EXACT SAME THING?!

Why the hell am I not voting you?!

Unvote
Vote: Kid A

Oversoul, don't think I've forgotten about you.

[kuribo]

pedit: why does him possibly buddying OS make OS scum?

You SAID, that he doesn't like the idea of OS as scum, meaning what?

Do YOU think OS is scum?

[kuribo]

Kuribo, we'll compromise. Only get to shout once a page.

is this retroactive to the previous 40 pages?

[kuribo]

My point is: One of your points against Venmar is that he doesn't think OS is scum. Laying aside the ridiculousness of "My reads are different, therefore he's scum:"

Why would Venmar be scummy for listing Oversoul as town... if YOU YOURSELF believe oversoul to be town?

Why did you accuse greygnarl of pushing the Venmar "lurker lynch" when YOU YOURSELF used lurking as an excuse to "read" Venmar as scum?

Why did you stop naming your Alex Cross books after nursery rhymes? I, Alex Cross is a terrible name for a book.

[kuribo]

hence "possible" you shitfuck

for the good of the town, I'm going to pretend you didn't just devolve into an insult war that you would never ever ever win

[kuribo]

Why would Venmar be scummy for listing Oversoul as town... if YOU YOURSELF believe oversoul to be town?

Why did you accuse greygnarl of pushing the Venmar "lurker lynch" when YOU YOURSELF used lurking as an excuse to "read" Venmar as scum?

I'm reading venmar as town, those are general notes on his play not a scum case

god, you're right!

you've actually listed so many reasons to find him scummy

and listed a case as to why he could be scum

and even assumed he's buddying OS-town (which is something scum do by necessity at times)...

AND THEN CALLED HIM TOWN

do you not see the cognitive disconnect here?

[kuribo]

and! and! you've actually listed so many reasons why you SHOULD find him scummy, that i completely forgot you were calling him town!


you don't actually have any reads, do you? You're just playing follow-the-leader, aren't you? AREN'T YOU?

[kuribo]

lalalalalalala

leeleeleeleeeleee

blllblblllblbll

[:

am I wrong here? Am I missing something?

[kuribo]

Kid A, tick tock, that's the sound of your life slipping away


Got some questions you need to answer, or did you "GO RUNNING BACK TO YOUR SCUM QT FOR HELP?" as you say?

[kuribo]

I'm just sittin back sippin a bear ;o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_%28gay_culture%29

[kuribo]

kuribo how did you now there was a scum qt wtf

how did YOU know I was right about there being a scum QT?

[kuribo]

well, if it makes you feel better, you're still scum and I could vote you instead?

[kuribo]

Oversoul causes chaos, planning to flee because we're all reading Kid A as town early-game?

[kuribo]

yeah yeah, boo fucking hoo, you're being picked on by an aggressive town

[kuribo]

You've never been there so you don't know it Kuribo.

Actually, the first time I was ever scum, I got caught out by TSQ and vollkan and they beat the living shit out of me while I flailed and flailed and complained. They lynched me, and then lynched one of my buddies who inexplicably declared me to be town... after my scum flip.

[kuribo]

open question 2 ne1 who has a strong opinion on the matter: is ces town?

I don't have a particularly strong opinion on him.

You've been scum with him, what do you think?

[kuribo]

He could have been hammered within the hour.

not really, wasn't he only at L-2?

[kuribo]

Your gambit won't work here, gnarl.

[kuribo]

Be patient I only have enough motivation to do a couple at time.

Why would it take so long to give reads that you already had reason for?

Like, you say you can only do so many, okay. But if you already have reasoning in your head, why would it take so long? And why not post them all at once?

[kuribo]

P sure that jacob is town just flustered by kanye

Why do you think that?

[kuribo]

@T-Bone I'd call 18 posts quite a lot considering we are not even a week in. Just because some people like to post a lot doesn't mean anything.

Because gut isn't something that just appears.

You do have to think about it.

"only a week in?"


do you realize this game is designed to literally last two weeks?

You have 18 posts halfway through the game.

[kuribo]

(Or maybe Kid A and I are playing so shitty that you keep bouncing back and forth.)

hot dog, we have a weiner

[kuribo]

Matt hesitating when that wagon reached L-2 is really town, actually

[kuribo]

Matt, oversoul played that card too

[kuribo]

I'm not feeling JS as scum the way I have been with Oversoul, greygnarl, and Kid A, though

And it kinda fucks my head having scumreads on three players when at least one of them has to be town.

[kuribo]

I thought you said earlier to ignore him?

Unvote
Vote: greygnarl

[kuribo]

Why hop on OS if you believe them to be a scum team?

[kuribo]

I still lean OS but it could be tainted since i find him scummy independently

GG is my strongest scumread right now and i dont like his sudden flop on JS

[kuribo]

Girls girls you're both pretty

[kuribo]

I really need to sort out my scum reads and create a diagram for myself of who they're calling scum.

Hey Oversoul- Greygnarl. Scum or town?

[kuribo]

.

Him being on CES, JS not voting, and Quilford being on Kanye, none of that seems to be helping.

[kuribo]

I meant to quote the whole post but I must have highlighted your period.

[kuribo]

kuribo we need you to rage against the scum.

Promise you'll rein me in if I start to derail the town?

[kuribo]

I like how Kuribo is like the hulk

I'm a nice guy, but...
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

[kuribo]

and the smile!


god, do you know how long I worked on flipping that frown upside down and taking away the angry eyebrows and


like seriously!

[kuribo]

YOU look weird


Okay, so back to the game: since you didn't bother answering me the FIRST time I asked you:

WHY DID YOU SAY TO IGNORE JACOB AND THEN SUDDENLY JUMP ONTO HIS WAGON

[kuribo]

You've been calling OS town all game though, and ONE POST changes that up completely?

[kuribo]

@kuribo Before I thought he was being pressured for the wrong reasons, and stretched that into town. But he was never conftown, and that psot just made me go ding ding ding, so basically yes.

So in other words, you didn't need to soft-bus him until just now while parking your vote on JS?

Which one of you is planning to flee?

[kuribo]

that wasn't jolly, that was legitimately annoyed that he insulted my art!

[kuribo]

WOULD YOU IDIOTS STOP SAYING THAT

fuck my life, man, why the fuck do you guys keep buddying him? first greygnarl, now you. It's like you fucked him last night and forgot to return his calls this morning

seriously! if he's scum, you can't BOTH be scum with him, so what the hell

is this some newfangled reverse psychology bullshit I'm not privvy to?

do you people think that shit actually would work on this site?

IS THAT SERIOUSLY ALL YOU HAVE TO FUCKING ADD AT THIS POINT?!


FOR FUCK'S SAKE

In the last 24 hours, you've done nothing more than "jokingly" call Ben scum and quietly ask everyone not to vote JS

Well I've FUCKING HAD IT

Kid A, god dammit, who's scum? You too, greygnarl, and while I'm fucking at it:
GuyInFreezer, get your sorry fucking ass in here. WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? You sign up for a fucking game, PLAY
CES, we're all used to your bullshit by now but for fuck's sake, PLAY
Venmar, your ISO since Thursday is ABJECT BULLSHIT OF THE HIGHEST FUCKING ORDER
Quilford, is this really the fucking time for your shit! EXPLAIN YOUR FUCKING READS
Benmage, the only FUCKING THING more pathetic than the ISOs of the people I just listed is YOUR FUCKING ISO

Now since this is an open setup YOU CAN'T ALL FUCKING BE SCUM, which means some of you are town with me and ACTIVELY HINDERING MY FUCKING CHANCES at winning this game! I want to catch scum NOW. I don't wanna have to get shit wrong, watch one flee, and then rely on this Day 1 LURKADERP BULLSHIT in order to divine who his buddy was! FOR FUCK'S SAKE. Because rest assured, if this game goes to Post-Day phase, the remainder of the game will almost certainly result in no information--- no one will have any reason to post if we reach the accusation phase and it'll just be ME SCREAMING AT YOU CHUMPS FOR DAYS ON END

GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER

FUCKING POST


ALWAYS FUCKING POST

NEVER BE NOT FUCKING POSTING

POST.

CHRIST ON A FUCKING CRACKER

[kuribo]

dammit all, you see what you make me do?!

DO YOU FUCKING SEE?


WHY DO YOU MAKE ME HIT YOU, BABY

[kuribo]

and greygnarl DON'T YOU FUCKING EVER INSULT MY ART

YOU DON'T LIKE THAT SHIT, YOU KEEP YOUR WHORE MOUTH SHUT

[kuribo]

god it felt good to get that out

I thought I was gonna wind up with a fucking ulcer

[kuribo]

all this time we've been working under the theory that scum's going to flee the weak link, but what if both players are weak links?

they can't both flee, so what would be the optimal plan--- lurkaderp, post as little information as possible, and start flipflopping your reads to confuse the town

unfortunately this applies to AN IMPOSSIBLY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE GAME RIGHT NOW since as i say, they can't all be scum!

some of them are JUST THAT BAD

[kuribo]

GOD am I wrong about Oversoul too?

like at this point, say he's scum with greygnarl

my theory has always been that Oversoul is gonna flee, but if greygnarl is his partner, GG has to flee--- OS is the better player of the two and has more townreads considering it's pretty much just been me wanting OS' blood for the last forty pages

but if it's like, GG and JS or GG and Kid A, then they're BOTH sure to garner suspicion, so they probably don't know which one to flee since both of them are likely to get at least ONE vote if we mislynch today. and that's IF we mislynch.

i seriously need to think about this shit right now because if we mislynch and go to Post-Day, all bets are off--- I don't expect the remainder of the game to yield a hell of alot of useful information if we get to the point where we're all 3rd party

[kuribo]

like, other than posting requirements, once we're all third party, there is literally nothing stopping anyone from saying "Well, I have my reads, and I'll keep them to myself" or "I'm reading back through the game, but that's all I'm saying" because it's not like anyone will have any motivation to post anything useful- scum won't want to incriminate themselves and the former town won't necessarily care since we'll be 3rd party. (despite the fact that, you know, it's not like we win independently of one another)

this day is our best chance of LYNCHING SCUM and our best chance of getting information together just in case we get it wrong, and a handful of people are just pissing all over that

[kuribo]

no, but i can

[kuribo]

like, seriously, he posts so infrequently that I keep forgetting he's even in the game

not unlike GiF

the only reason they've escaped the EYE OF HATE is because i've been wishing hot death on OS / Kid A / GG

[kuribo]

but part of my issue about JS is his wagon

GuyinFreezer, Kid A, GG *all* on JS?

A lurkaderp and two of my scumreads

Oversoul's vote is uselessly parked on Kid A which tells me he MIGHT be waiting for someone to put JS at L-1 so he can LOLmishammer

his wagon makes me think that his ISO is so bad, it makes him the perfect person to take the fall for Oversoul and either Kid A or greygnarl


but both Kid A and greygnarl have basically done the reverse psychology bullshit of "LEAVE JS ALONE" so idunno

[kuribo]

no they fucking don't have motivation to post, not if they can get you mislynched and flee

optimal scum strategy, especially for the fleeing scum, is to leave an unreadable mess after they flee

you're forgetting that this game is SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE POSTING from the town

[kuribo]

AND HOW THE FUCK AM I PUSHING ON LURKERS WHEN I'M THE ONLY FUCKING ONE THAT WANTED OVERSOUL LYNCHED FOR PAGE AFTER PAGE AFTER PAGE AFTER PAGE because he sure as hell isn't a "lurker"

If I was gonna push on a lurker, don't you think I'd be ALL THE FUCK OVER GUY IN FREEZER like a crackwhore trying to get some of that sweet rock?

HOW THE FUCK AM I PUSHING ON LURKERS WHEN I'VE FLAT OUT SAID I WANT GREY GNARL LYNCHED


WHY THE FUCK WON'T YOU PUT IN EFFORT?! WHY THE FUCK DID YOU SIGN UP FOR A GAME IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT IN EFFORT

DO YOU EVEN GIVE A FUCK IF YOU WIN? because rest assured, I DO

[kuribo]

ALL THREE OF MY STRONGEST SCUM READS ARE IN THE TOP SEVEN OF FUCKING POSTERS FOR THIS GAME

AND YOU ACCUSE ME OF PICKING ON LURKERS?!

go the fuck somewhere man, seriously

[kuribo]

you can be quiet

not entirely sure I grasp this concept

[kuribo]

How do I have at least five scum reads at this point of the game? Was the game turned bastard secretly? IT'S NOT FUCKING POSSIBLE.

Ben, get your ASS IN HERE AND ANSWER MY QUESTION. WHY. IS. YOUR. VOTE. PARKED. ON. FUCKING. CES.

CES is about as likely to be lynched as I am to be struck by lightning at this point of the game.

JS, if you want to be not useless, then point out who the damn is scum with a some substance we can look at.

see, how is it that people were reading this guy as scum?

this attitude is town as fuck

[kuribo]

kuribo can you list your problems/thigns youw ant me to answer and I will address them all.

* Your sudden flip flop on Oversoul- you criticized DGB for questioning him, now you think he's scum based on one post. BUT, in post #796, you said you thought Venmar was scum with OS. You did not place your vote on either.
* Your sudden flip flop on JS- you were "pretty sure" he was town and flustered by kanye, you even said to leave him alone. But now you think he's scum with OS. mmhmm.
* Your assumption that the votes on you are for "playing badly" reads like "scum caught for the wrong reason"
* At one point you claimed your ONLY solid read was Benmage-town. How the fuck is that possible? After all of the activity in the thread at the time, THAT'S your only strong read?
* You refuse to give reads despite the fact that it's been pointed out many times that this day is our best shot at gathering reads on people
* Your reads are pretty much follow-the-leader anyway

[kuribo]

YOU OBVIOUSLY READ MY FUCKING POST KID A


WHO'S SCUM?

[kuribo]

I


YOU


L;DFKKLDFL;KFDK;GKDFGD;LKGKDFKGDKFLGKL;DFKGSlGKEW;LRTKWE54TOIESDF

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[kuribo]

THIS ISN'T A FUCKING GUESSING GAME YOU FUCKING CLOWN SHOE

POST YOUR FUCKING READS

[kuribo]

now was THAT SO FUCKING HARD?

[kuribo]

and why do you think Ghostlin is scum? He's town as fuck

[kuribo]

so you think JS is scum


but buddies with either Benmage or Ghostlin


but Ghostlin is town?

[kuribo]

actually, i can live with that line of thinking

[kuribo]

Kuribo calm the fuck down.

It's mothers day.

is your mother a recovering heroin addict too

[kuribo]

and why do you think Ghostlin is scum? He's town as fuck

I really thought that "town attitude post" you made earlier looked fake as fuck personally.
Do you have any other reasoning to call him town?

the attitude IS town as fuck--- he's obviously frustrated by the way things are going, which is a pretty understandable way of thinking. Could ghostlin be faking it? sure, but I don't think so

as I said before, I don't generally agree with all of his opinions, but he does seem to be scumhunting--- maybe "town as fuck" is a bit strong, but I definitely don't read him as scum

That's why the post read town as fuck to me--- I already have a town read on him, I legitimately don't understand most of the scum reads on him, and yes, it's pretty fucking obvious why he'd be frustrated with the players he mentioned

[kuribo]

BBMolla - Solid Town, just the way he is posting
Benmage - Solid Town, some really townie posts
Cogito Ergo Sum - Null, uggh
DrippingGoofball - Leaning Town, seems to be playing good, but also is very tunnelly
Ghostlin - Solid Town, read my defense of him when he first started posting
GuyInFreezer - Null, no content
JacobSavage - Leaning scum, very lurky and doesn't address anything directed at him (his resposnes do not address the concerns)
Kanyeknowsbest - Null, probably town, but hasn't done anything really obvtown yet
Kid A - Leaning scum, he's playing a lot like I'd expect a scum to, but I haven't focused on him in a while
kuribo - Solid Town, has done nothing all game to make me think he could be scum
MattP - Solid Town, I'm paranoid about him as usual, but he's playing really townie (what with the L-1 is actually L-0)
Oversoul - Leaning Scum, he's playing really weird, and his ignore Jacob posts set me off.
Quilford - Null, haven't gotten any scum vibes, but if he' scum he's playing it well
T-Bone - Leaning town, his play has been solid, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is scum.
Venmar - Leaning town, haven't conisdered him in a while, but his recent posts are pretty town

see, now you've given us something we can work with. atta boy.

i'll put my dick back in my pants for now

[kuribo]

vote parking (CES and Quil)

did you leave out Ben intentionally or unintentionally

[kuribo]

STOP DOING THAT

POST YOUR FUCKING READS BEN

[kuribo]

no don't replace me plz pl- oh.
Sorry for the sudden disappearance. I was busy with RL issue + studying for finals.
Hopefully I'll start posting actively tomorrow (my final exams are done tomorrow).

paging drippinggoofball to page 62

[kuribo]

Because Jacob seems to me like a type of player who doesn't "care" about mafia games in the same way that say DGB, Kuribo, you, and me probably care.

how is not caring a town tell?

[kuribo]

except that's EXPLICITLY NOT WHAT HE SAID

Hey, OS. Explain why Jacob's town.

Well I thought I would be better able to explain it but in light of other things I can't

fail

Because Jacob seems to me like a type of player who doesn't "care" about mafia games in the same way that say DGB, Kuribo, you, and me probably care.

I wish I could explain it better but without pointing you to other town games of Jacob I can't other than the general impression I get from his posts

"Why is he town?"
"Because he doesn't care."

Scum can "not care" too.

[kuribo]

Jacob, help me to help you

I can't control DGB when she's like this, man! She's a loose cannon! Chief says a few more days of this and she'll be off the force! I once saw her whip a handcuffed suspect across the face with a car antenna! She's crazy, man, she'll kill you!

What I need you to do, little guy, is stop whining about the game and put in some work! Now, if you cooperate with us, maybe I can get DGB to go lenient on you. But you gotta work with me, kid!


i always wanted to try being the good cop in a good cop / bad cop routine

[kuribo]

quick, DGB, throw hot coffee in his face while yelling YOU NEVER FINISHED EXPLAINING YOUR READS, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PULL?!

[kuribo]

I'll be chaotic neutral cop

"Listen pal, I can help you out of this by BRUTALLY KILLING YOU for your own good. They can't convict a dead man, right? And if you confess, ugh, there's just gonna be paperwork, and you'll be in jail, and neither of us want that, so how about I just kill you?"

[kuribo]

I'm still reading OS and gnarl as more likely scum and would prefer either of them get lynched

[kuribo]

can we lynch oversoul instead since we both read him as scum?

[kuribo]

Anyone else notice GreyGnarl is calling all of his attackers town..?

for the most part, he's calling everyone town that's seen as universally town and everyone scum that's seen as scummy

[kuribo]

I don't see GG as scum, you'd have to convince me.

I don't like the JS wagon, though. Two of my scumreads and LurkInFreezer? They're tainting your beautiful wagon, and that might be why I'm having a hard time seeing JS as scum.

Please note that Oversoul only recently joined the GG wagon when it became obvious that JS is the likely lynch. Oversoul is absolutely the kind of player to soft-bus when his partner's not in any real danger.

[kuribo]

I haven't done the appropriate research, but calling your attackers town can be a way of getting them to cool off, especially if you're afraid that they'll accuse you of OMGUS if you call them scum.

I do think noob scum tends to worry about coming across as OMGUSing more than experienced players, though--- in fact, in general, noob players tend to think about OMGUS more often. (I'd be willing to bet that a direct link could be made between lack of 'OMGUS' accusations and length of experience on the site)


Aping the reads of others is a fairly simple way of "going with the flow" and trying to appear town when you already know peoples' alignments.

And look at this, does this read town? Be honest:

kuribo can you list your problems/thigns youw ant me to answer and I will address them all.

* Your sudden flip flop on Oversoul- you criticized DGB for questioning him, now you think he's scum based on one post. BUT, in post #796, you said you thought Venmar was scum with OS. You did not place your vote on either.

All I can say is that yes, it was a sudden flipflop

* Your sudden flip flop on JS- you were "pretty sure" he was town and flustered by kanye, you even said to leave him alone. But now you think he's scum with OS. mmhmm.

Same thing, that one post, plus me rereading the part where he was posting in other games and stuff made me flipflop. Also, scum

can be flustered.

* Your assumption that the votes on you are for "playing badly" reads like "scum caught for the wrong reason"

Well if I'm town then I have to be playing badly to be a universal scumread.

* At one point you claimed your ONLY solid read was Benmage-town. How the fuck is that possible? After all of the activity in the thread at the time, THAT'S your only strong read?

That was after I missed a day and 7 pages of the game, and when I reread, the only thing that stood out to me was that Ben has to be town.

* You refuse to give reads despite the fact that it's been pointed out many times that this day is our best shot at gathering reads on people

When did I refuse to give reads? I'll give a read on everybody next post.

* Your reads are pretty much follow-the-leader anyway

I already addressed that I am not good at scumhunting, and so most of my game

is

follow the leader.

[kuribo]

I don't like the JS wagon, though. Two of my scumreads and LurkInFreezer? They're tainting your beautiful wagon, and that might be why I'm having a hard time seeing JS as scum.

Please note that Oversoul only recently joined the GG wagon when it became obvious that JS is the likely lynch. Oversoul is absolutely the kind of player to soft-bus when his partner's not in any real danger.

I know it's tempting to look at "who's on the wagon" but every time I have succumbed, it didn't pan out. Evidence for scum (without a result) is flimsy at best, so deciding alignment based on who is on the wagon is one degree separated from the scum itself, so it's very, very weak and not proven effective.

If JS is scum, his lynch will lose the game for OS. It's more likely that he was cornered into voting for the competing wagon than hoping we'd all go "oh hey OS is voting GG so JS is probtown." Occam's Razor. OS needs GG to die, and he's protecting JS.

okay, that actually makes sense


pretend I've been too busy raging at GG and Oversoul to notice the JS case, I'll look over it some more tonight

[kuribo]

What's the link between OS and JS specifically?

I get why JS is independently scummy

[kuribo]

why wouldn't he just complain about it in his QT? or keep it to himself though?

i'm trying to remember if i complained in-thread in WWE attitude mafia about the fact that the other scumteam had a vig (and thus two kills per night to my scumteam's one)

but then again, I didn't find that out until post game, so I thought I was hunting a serial killer

[kuribo]

then again, he knew the setup before he signed up--- we all did


why complain after the game starts--- and at that point, no less--- if he didn't get a scum role and realize it was gonna be an uphill fight

[kuribo]

oh shit and at the point he said that, Oversoul was already starting to gather suspicion--- he had already been wagoned and I was pushing OS hard by that time

that makes sense, if oversoul was going to be the rabblerouser and flee... then it looked like he was in trouble, of course JS would be upset about that fact--- he loses if OS gets lynched

[kuribo]

Because its my perception on what you wod do based on FUCK YOU ALL I AM A GOD

claim you suck all you want but you played a good scumgame in Chrono Trigger

[kuribo]

If memory serves, didnt you actually do something similar in that game?

[kuribo]

Or is it that hammering him in this setup would violate your wincon?

[kuribo]

Uhhh

I lurked like a mofo
Do you claim that is good scum game?

Pedit: I don't know what you are referring to
Voting tactics?

Yeah. i seem to remember you soft bussing in that game

[kuribo]

That post was about as deep as any of CES's, I don't see the problem. Unless you don't think CES is town anymore?

There's a level of expectation. Most of us know what to expect from CES.

[kuribo]

Protip: you don't lynch CES ever in this style of game

You and I were both in Revolution Mafia where CES was scum, and we saw him lynched. But only after he managed to push wagon on both Fate and SpyreX. I still maintain I'd have never figured out Darox though.

His play here is WILDLY different--- even before he started hydra'ing with Regfan in that game--- CES-scum has the same problem that I've always said about Katsuki-scum. He has an agenda to push and he needs to look more active to work it through. This is PROBABLY CES town. CES is hard to read in general so I can never be sure, but I lean town.

[kuribo]

Fine
Lynch whoever the fuck you fuckers want to lynch anyway

If it is more of DGB's crap case on lurkers be my guest. I'm not helping you there.

When we don't win because omg scummy town fucking pile your suspicions onto me and then when you don't win then suck my dick

This is why Type A Towns will never ever win anything

stop stealing my schtick

[kuribo]

So at JS reaching L-2, you want to lynch ben so he doesnt get away with his shitty play?

what about KKB's shitty play
or GiF's shitty play
or CES' shitty play
or your own shitty play

How many lynches do you think we get?
Why are you only now worried about benmage?

Unvote
Vote: JacobSavage

[kuribo]

YOU DONT EVEN CARE IF YOU ARE DERAILING A SCUMLYNCH

how the fuck do you policy lynch in this setup?

[kuribo]

early game yes


lately youve been pretty fucking absent

[kuribo]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

KID A YOU JUST SET THAT SHIT UP?

[kuribo]

Kid a, fuck you pal. dont give me shit about retarded play when you are the fucking king of all thay

and no i didnt see you put him at L-1

if i'd thought you were gonna hop back, i'd have stayed where i was

you are fucking ridiculous.