Micro : The Cult 2 (Game Over)

[thenewearth]

VOTE: RandomYoshi

[thenewearth]

Oh screw that RVS vote...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: GuyInFreezer

DANZAAAAAAIIIIIIIIII

[thenewearth]

Knew it... We should policy lynch AP later.

[thenewearth]

I come back and then people keep saying that they are town all of a sudden.

What...?

[thenewearth]

This guy...

[thenewearth]

how do you get any read from that - town or otherwise

Scum would try to scumhunt and look town as early as possible, IMO.

And also... VIIIIIIBBBBEEEESSS

But seriously... If we get to D2 we should policy lynch AP for:
1) He may actually be the cult leader
2) Most likely going to be recruited because VIIIIBES

[thenewearth]

Wait, you _know_ that tne was reaction testing you because you _would have_ reacted differently as scum? Or am I misunderstanding that?

Wait a firetrucking minute... I was doing a reaction test? Oh god yoshi don't make me join that wagon.

Explanation of Delta's vote post: Let's assume Pim has Cult leader on the brain (because he's the cult leader). We 'have' bacon, but not cookies. Implying that he is a cult leader who recruits cult members via bacon instead of cookies.

The 'We' implies a team, no-one as yet is aware of any kind of team. That you include me in the 'We' looks like either foreshadowing, or buddying. And yes, I understood his reason perfectly, and I agreed with it. I didn't realise I had to go so far as to paraphrase the argument again in my own words.

What kind of reasons are these... Are you implying that Pim was soft claiming? No no no. Don't think so.

Though Remembrance and bacon are town for just speculating these things...

[thenewearth]

So yeah I think we could write them off the suspect list for now.

And yet again... I have strange vibes from freshman.

[thenewearth]

Wait... Who self voted? I think I missed that from skimming a bit...

[thenewearth]

It's semi-open I think.

GIF: I don't think AP is the cult leader just yet... But I think that he'd be the recruitment of the day.
Well now that I said it then he won't be recruited (Yeah WIFOMs)

Yoshi: So if I self vote now does that make me town?

[thenewearth]

Remembrace: I don't... even comprehend... What is this that I do not even...

[thenewearth]

Dammit GIF... I was planning on self voting first

GRRRR...

VOTE: TNE

I SHALL NOT BE OUTSHINED

[thenewearth]

Wait... Who was I originally gonna vote for...

Ah right

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Freshman

GIF: and yet... DANZAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIII

Remembrance: claiming again?

[thenewearth]

Really... You have yamaxandau as an avatar yet you don't know what danzai is?

Tsk tsk tsk.

[thenewearth]

Danzai is similar to objection, IIRC.

Ok enough off-topic stuff.

I'm still keeping my vote on freshman for the bad vibes he's emitting

[thenewearth]

His sole reason for voting me so far, is that I voted for him. That's not a town thing to do under any circumstances, and no-one else jumps out at me so wildly as scum.

Actually... AtE and OMGUS can come from anyone. It's pretty much a null-tell

[thenewearth]

Inb4 everyone votes for himself

[thenewearth]

Zora ruined what? Huh?

Also... Gonna ISO people later. Just got back from forced church (Yeah... parents...)

[thenewearth]

Actually... A massclaim is OK IMO. Since we need 1 lynch.

That... Or I'm just being stupid today

[thenewearth]

Yeah so I'm just being stupid...

[thenewearth]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Remembrance

Guys let's put pressure on remembrance. I think I know how to deal with the likes of him.

'Cause I'm feeling something off about him today.

[thenewearth]

If I elaborate now then everything that I would say would go null because you can counter them in the near future.

So no

[thenewearth]

I can only apologise for the earlier drunkpost - it won't be happening again.

How did I know that was a drunken post...

[thenewearth]

Because drunk people tend to say the truth without them knowing. And it's hard to fake being drunk.

Don't get the idea of drunk posting. It's rude. Respect the drunk people

[thenewearth]

I thought it said "I think pimhel is scum.

SHUUT IT

[thenewearth]

It's easter, yo.

Holidays. A time to party.

I think... Please tell me that's the reason or else I will call my lady, Mavis Vermillion

[thenewearth]

VOTE: freshmaniscoolman

why?

Why not?

No seriously... Why?

[thenewearth]

So it's very much a prod vote?

[thenewearth]

What was gained from it in the first place?

to look town and feed off town cred

[thenewearth]

I'll wait for freshman first.

We can deal with Kid A later

[thenewearth]

Rem, why did you introduce so much WIFOM?

Well this is actually good. Cult leader MIGHT panic on who to recruit

[thenewearth]

Huh... I never noticed that the deadline was this close

[thenewearth]

Well not that I mind.

It just means that our activity should be kept high.
Which is exactly the opposite of what's happening now >.>

[thenewearth]

Not everyone celebrates easter.

Even when I was away for easter I didn't celebrate.
I came for the food.

Anyways...

Why yoshi?

[thenewearth]

I'm pretty sure town remembrance would claim...

Yeah that's cult leader remembrance. Lynch him

[thenewearth]

I mean... He'd claim without 2nd guessing, from what I know.

[thenewearth]

Ah poop... I should really not play mafia when I just woke up >.>

Sorry, nevermind.

I read as "Do you want" as "I don't want" for some reason.

[thenewearth]

I could go for AA9

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ArcAngel9

[thenewearth]

Guys I won't be here tomorrow.

Someone hammer AA9 if she doesn't come here.

[thenewearth]

1. Tne is an easy lynch. If you want, meta TNE. He gets lynched all the time.

Uh... no.
You should feel bad about this.

[thenewearth]

I seriously want to know who the JK/Cop is.

Esp when there's a JK. We can break this game down

[thenewearth]

Nope.

And pretty much a bad-good question.

If the person was really recruited then it's bad.
But if you were a failed recruitment then it's good.

[thenewearth]

Well... Now I'm stuck

[thenewearth]

Now, GuyInFeeezer, why did you want us to massclaim during Day 1?

...

It was tne who asked about it.

I am so derp.

Well since this was directed to me...

I was thinking of strategy based on.

Esp if there would be a JK, Roleblock, or tracker/watcher.

Each would have chosen 1 person.

Then work our lynch based on the results.

Basically, we lynch JK target and he chooses another,
Roleblock would be same as JK, Unless both JK and Roleblock are present, then roleblock would block same person again and again and again.
Tracker/Watcher would at least confirm some townspeople.

[thenewearth]

Well anyways...

Now that we don't know if there are 1 or 2 cults... Then no it'd be quite a bad idea now.

[thenewearth]

When It was just the cult leader, we could have

[thenewearth]

VOTE: AA9

Let's see if this works again

[thenewearth]

VOTE: AA9

Let's see if this works again

Why AA9?

I was testing out something based on a previous game I was with AA9.

[thenewearth]

I think TNE is the recruit because his tone has changed quite a bit

biggest change is how he's gone from actively scumhunting and looking for bad vibes to trying to dictate some weird group strategies and break the game

Uhm... The first thing I said was the massclaim.

How can I change if that was the first thing I was doing?

[thenewearth]

@TNE: Can you elaborate on 499? What were you looking for - why say its a reaction test before AA9 gets the chance to see it?

Remember the Banjo kazooie mafia you modded?

[thenewearth]

Also...

Why do you say this?

#475 answers that

[thenewearth]

Ok so I'm not going to claim yet?

[thenewearth]

Who claims VT next, We are lynching them...

Ouch... So... Yeah I'm not gonna claim

[thenewearth]

Or we could just let PRs claim.

Instead of disputing about VT claims. 'Cause VT claims are easy to forge

[thenewearth]

I thoguht TNE claimed VT already?

I was going to... But

Who claims VT next, We are lynching them...

So yeah...

[thenewearth]

Inb4 AA9 points out I'm soft-claiming and wants to lynch me

[thenewearth]

I protected AP yesterday night, and people will probably know why.

Yes. GIF is genius.

[thenewearth]

Im an odd night JK; I blocked Delta last night.

So we lynch delta next. If we can break the game like this then sure.
(provided AP is telling truth)

Or are we not going to do my theory?

[thenewearth]

Now, GuyInFeeezer, why did you want us to massclaim during Day 1?

...

It was tne who asked about it.

I am so derp.

Well since this was directed to me...

I was thinking of strategy based on.

Esp if there would be a JK, Roleblock, or tracker/watcher.

Each would have chosen 1 person.

Then work our lynch based on the results.

Basically, we lynch JK target and he chooses another,
Roleblock would be same as JK, Unless both JK and Roleblock are present, then roleblock would block same person again and again and again.
Tracker/Watcher would at least confirm some townspeople.

I mean this.

[thenewearth]

Well in theory If delta is CL then no one was actually recruited last night.

Actually I didn't want GIF to claim his protect this early.

Ofc if CL is still alive by then, then GIF is the next lynch. Since he's probably the most likely lynch

Or AP because of Jail.

Rem is the least likely because he's just a tracker. Could be wrong though

OOOOOOOOOR he won't recruit any of you.

God... The WIFOMs

[thenewearth]

Your theory sucks fucking balls, just sayin.

Defending.

K he CL

[thenewearth]

Clearly a town would most likely to agree with any plans to break the game.

If they don't think that the plan would work then they make adjustments for it to work.

Yeah you're CL

VOTE: Bacon

[thenewearth]

Dude that was the idea.

If this was a normal mafia game then JK would at least give us some conf-town stuff

But this ain't your normal mafia game.

It was JK people --> protect JK --> lynch JK'd --> Rinse --> Repeat (And this is why I didn't like GIF claiming :/)

And tracker random tracks. That's where we get conftown. (But honestly want a watcher but Tracker's better than nothing)

[thenewearth]

Dood... I had a game where all of us were JOATs

It is. As long as the balance is there. Which explains the Odd-Night stuff.

[thenewearth]

TNE is just proposing a plan to break the game which is shaky anyhow:
1. How do you know that me/remem/gif are all town?
2. The game isn't 100% breakable like you are kind of implying; Zor isn't dumb. (also Im odd night, and Remem's Pr is kinda meh since if there are 2 scum right now then there is no need for scum to be recruiting which means his PR wont do much)

1) I'm not. It's just assuming that you're all telling the truth
2) I know. All games are not 100% breakable but still breakable. Like Diffusion of power or something.

[thenewearth]

No no.

AtE is appealing to "Emotion"

Something like... "Fuck you guys I'm town, why can't you see that? Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck"

Something like that... yeah

[thenewearth]

Wait is the CL death announced?

[thenewearth]

Wait am I counting wrong... Or we're not lylo tomorrow. Or the day after tomorrow since

All members of the Cult win if there are one or fewer town members alive. The Cult does NOT win if the game is 2 vs 2 during the day.

[thenewearth]

I don't think CL would have recruited AA9

It'd be stupid of the CL to recruit her. Just saying

[thenewearth]

Someone who was never really noticed on D1

[thenewearth]

I mean CL will recruit the least likely lynch.

CL would be stupid to recruit AA9 imo

[thenewearth]

Did no one get recruited? Really?

[thenewearth]

Rem asks "Did you get recruited"

Everyone answers "Nope"

Really?

[thenewearth]

DOOOOD.

AJ please tell me you're telling the truth.
Though I'm not going to get my hopes up >.>

[thenewearth]

But if its Delta, STILL I would just RB him tonight and lynch tomorrow. He can be / is effectively crippled if he rolled CL.

I thought you were a odd-jail

Oh dear... Am I paranoid or was that a scum slip?

[thenewearth]

Oh right... K I'm just paranoid

[thenewearth]

Either a recruit or still a town tbh...

[thenewearth]

I want you to answer this TNE:
Why would a cult leader recruit me given my position in the game and my role at the end of the day: fill it in, thank you.

CL recruits you --> CL pushes your lynch --> You flip recruit --> CL feeds on town cred --> CL rides to the win


We can never rule out ANY possibilities. All possibilities are of equal importance

[thenewearth]

I really think it's DB... But It's not going to happen now is it :/

VOTE: Kid A

SHEEEEEEEEP

[thenewearth]

If Kid A flips town then yeah... I seriously think it's bacon

[thenewearth]

And I was hoping we win D1

[thenewearth]

I know how to be positive.

But there's just too much bragging rights that was lost when we reached D2

[thenewearth]

Stalker remembrance is stalker ._.

Anyways... any results on peeps?

[thenewearth]

Well if someone is to be recruited

The most likely yet the most Unlikely is GiF IMO

[thenewearth]

Well its either 2 v 5 or 1 v 6.

Iunno...

But if it's still 2 v 5 I have my money on bacon

[thenewearth]

Are we even notified if we're recruited yet it didn't work?

[thenewearth]

Right, what's the case against me - because so far all I see is AP's Jailkeep on me which proves nothing.

Lynch the JK'd, JK another, Lynch the other JK'd. Something like that.

Plus if no one was recruited on N1 then you're the MOST LIKELY CL.

[thenewearth]

IF

no one was recruited

[thenewearth]

Oh right.

So no one will actually say that they are recruited.

So wasn't it a waste of asking it?

Or am I missing something here?

[thenewearth]

Because of the number of people saying "I wasn't recruited"

How sure were they were not recruited?

[thenewearth]

That's it.

So no one will actually say they were recruited.

Unless there was a lie detector here...

So yeah... Was that a waste or something? Or am I really missing something?

[thenewearth]

Didn't GiF protect him?

[thenewearth]

Ah right.

I should really not play mafia when I just woke up >.<''

[thenewearth]

If the roleblock died, the protector (GiF) protected someone else, And the JK (AP) couldn't JK. Then I don't think you were protected last night

[thenewearth]

GiF: I think CL can recruit endlessly but cannot recruit more than 1.

Since it's said that:

1. Every night, the Cult Leader may PM the moderator with who he wants to recruit. If he has not recruited yet, he will attempt to recruit his target.
2. The Cult Leader may have a power role in addition to being the Cult Leader and may both recruit and use his action at night.
3. The Cult Leader may not recruit more than one player for the entire game. The Cult Leader will NOT be told if his recruitment was successful or not. All subsequent recruitment attempts will fail (but will still show up to watchers and trackers)

CL just doesn't know if recruitment is successful or not. But he can try to recruit over and over again

[thenewearth]

Wait... Am I misinterpreting you or something?

Anyways... Yes he will fail. But He can still recruit. It will just fail.

So paranoid CL will keep recruiting everytime from how I see it

[thenewearth]

Watcha want to talk about, boss?

[thenewearth]

I never really changed my reads.

CL is delta

Possible recruits would have been AA9 and you

[thenewearth]

VOTE: Bacon

[thenewearth]

No one

[thenewearth]

It's Either DB or someone else

[thenewearth]

Guys. At least lynch a cult. Instead of the cult forc lynching someone

[thenewearth]

Ok wtf happened while I was asleep?

[thenewearth]

Knew it... We should policy lynch AP later.

I knew it

[thenewearth]

Woah... Blacklist already? Isn't that a wee bit harsh, zora?