The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - AllTheMods 9!!! - NEW Vanilla?

izakthegoomba · Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:21 pm

Just dug up a changelog. It is!

izakthegoomba · Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:37 pm

I has an end portal! When do we want to murder the dragon?

(the egg is MINE, btw)

izakthegoomba · Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:09 am

Ok I'm going to try backing stuff up just to make sure everything's working on my end. Nobody shut down the server in the next ~15 minutes, please.

izakthegoomba · Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:14 am

I have a powerful XP grinder and a big pile of iron. I can throw you some decent armor and weapons for the fight.

izakthegoomba · Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:17 am

359 file transfers and 5 minutes later, I backed up the whole world folder for the FTB server. Not bad at all. I'm going to see how long it takes to dump ALL the files now...

izakthegoomba · Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:25 am

872 transfers... also in 5 minutes.

izakthegoomba · Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:31 am

The original 359 files were a part of the second load. :/

izakthegoomba · Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:01 am

How about some time tomorrow evening? Around 8 GMT or something?

izakthegoomba · Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:51 pm

In post 12215, Maestro wrote:Hey Maru, I think the Age has Dense Ores working correctly

OH GOD MY EYES

WHHHYYYYYY MAESTRO

WHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYY?

izakthegoomba · Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:46 am

Taking down the server for a bit to sort out the configs. Command blocks, spawn point, etc.

izakthegoomba · Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:46 am

(^FTB server)

izakthegoomba · Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:13 am

Server's up, in case anyone else was waiting on me to say so rather than checking for themselves. >.>

Maru, the starter kit system is in place and ready to go when you give the word. All you/me/M need to do is "/defaultgamemode 2".

izakthegoomba · Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:52 am

I thought we were just going with basic vanilla items and letting people explore mods for themselves? That's how I've got it set up currently, but it's not too hard to adjust it to do other stuff.

izakthegoomba · Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:18 am

Seems unlikely. Are there really that many of us with new xycraft stuff?

izakthegoomba · Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:00 am

I'd be strongly against rolling back to before the update. I've done a LOT since then, both for myself and for the server. I wouldn't be against just scrapping the new stuff and going back to 5.1.1 though.

Why did we update before it was recommended, anyway?

izakthegoomba · Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:28 pm

In post 12256, fuzzybutternut wrote:Well, I assume it would. Lag wouldn't be much of an issue, because we wouldn't have 65 mods running at once.

Mods don't create lag just by existing. They may make the server take longer to start up and shut down, but they should only significantly effect lag if they're being used intensively.

izakthegoomba · Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:28 am

>implying only OPs can use and abuse them

izakthegoomba · Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:43 am

...and config... and screenshots... and minimap folder... and servers.dat... and basically anything else that it's possible you shouldn't just randomly throw away when you want to re-install mods.

izakthegoomba · Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:10 am

(or we could just use portals and save the trouble of making railways look nice...)

izakthegoomba · Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:01 am

Ok, so back to the vanilla server for a moment: Minecraft 1.5 has just been pushed to the launchers. Presumalby we want to wait until Bukkit/LWC/Optifine/other important stuff is updated, like usual?

izakthegoomba · Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:26 am

ftb.ms-hosting.org

Not sure what's up with the old IP.

izakthegoomba · Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:59 pm

In post 12312, Maruchan wrote:really izak? that routes to it too? i use ftb.maruchanserver.com

Yep.

izakthegoomba · Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:44 am

What's your username, CD?

izakthegoomba · Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:59 am

Got a monitor which can go that fast? I get about 150 fps in my new home, most monitors cap at or before 120.

izakthegoomba · Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:55 am

I'd whitelist you, but the vanilla server's address seems to have changed again. >_>

And Klaz, an HVSA costs 10532 (164 stacks +36) UUM. So it's expensive, but not THAT expensive.

izakthegoomba · Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:03 am

Not working for me. :/

izakthegoomba · Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:16 am

In post 12352, fuzzybutternut wrote:Wait, the redstone update finally came about?!

Yes, but we're waiting for a stable Bukkit build for vanilla and a recommended modpack version for FTB.

In post 12353, blake5135 wrote:Sever crashed and still hasn't came on yet....

Multicraft says everything is up but I'm on my phone right now so I can't check. Want me to bounce one?

izakthegoomba · Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:35 pm

I've been messing with thaumcraft a lot but that should only affect my aura node, right?

izakthegoomba · Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:54 am

......

you gave everyone /weather permissions?

>_>

izakthegoomba · Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:51 am

Yeah, I'll have a look at the last few tonight, and start working on those configs.

izakthegoomba · Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:52 am

Oh and the ruins can be done with a bit of MCEdit witchcraft. I'll throw a few examples together for you some time.

izakthegoomba · Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:59 am

Uh, would you guys object if I re-organised the file a bit? Moved the "decided" to the bottom, seperated yes/no, etc.

izakthegoomba · Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:50 am

ATTENTION, PEOPLES:

I'm coving for an absent mod in MM for the next few days, and it's a game that needs regular (read: near-constant) updating. So I probably won't be logging into this account much. Catch me on Skype or something if it's urgent, I'll try to stay logged in.

izakthegoomba · Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:16 am

Actually, there is a config'able option for limiting the total number of chunks a player can load with chunkloaders, but we never set it up properly. It's set much higher than it really should be, but we never came to any kind of agreement on a good number.

izakthegoomba · Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:25 pm

In post 12478, Maruchan wrote:
In post 12460, Maestro wrote:Check the OP of this thread, dav

EDIT: totally willing to give this to izak or Maru, just thought the time was right for it to start being updated by somebody who's still involved in server activities *shrug*

It's really a toss up between you/izak (as being owners of the OFFICIAL server (lol) as well as not having any chance of being deployed to a submarine hundreds of feet under the ocean, with no internet reception for days/weeks at a time), or giving it to me (since i run the hosting for both the official, and almost anything else we do, but could have the above happen to me)

I'm fine with M having it.

izakthegoomba · Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:24 am

Meh. 512 is where it's at. If we used another number system, such as dozenal or octal, 500 would have no significance at all, but powers of 2 would still be important.

izakthegoomba · Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:55 am

Actually the one you built 1.5-2 years ago doesn't look nearly as boring as the new one.

>.>

<.<

izakthegoomba · Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:18 pm

In post 12484, izakthegoomba wrote:
In post 12478, Maruchan wrote:
In post 12460, Maestro wrote:Check the OP of this thread, dav

EDIT: totally willing to give this to izak or Maru, just thought the time was right for it to start being updated by somebody who's still involved in server activities *shrug*

It's really a toss up between you/izak (as being owners of the OFFICIAL server (lol) as well as not having any chance of being deployed to a submarine hundreds of feet under the ocean, with no internet reception for days/weeks at a time), or giving it to me (since i run the hosting for both the official, and almost anything else we do, but could have the above happen to me)

I'm fine with M having it.

Actually thinking about it, I'm still fine with M having it, but maybe I and/or Maru should have topic mod powers if that's a thing that can happen in GD?

izakthegoomba · Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:19 pm

On it. If I can get it to boot. >.>

izakthegoomba · Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:29 pm

In post 12513, Blastoide wrote:BBlastoide.
That would be awesome, thank you!

My minecraft be derpin'. Added you through the server console, that

usually

works.

izakthegoomba · Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:13 am

Just type and hit enter. /say is an admin command that broadcasts a message in bright pink (or at least, it's supposed to) and /tell is for private messages.

izakthegoomba · Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:35 am

Holy crap this is awesome. First video of the upcoming 2.0 update is out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-jjpPMcFkM

izakthegoomba · Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:48 am

On FTB? I have completed a portal and grabbed a few ender bees. I didn't kill the dragon though.

izakthegoomba · Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:08 am

I had it as a waypoint but then I lost it.

I think it was around 1000 -900 or something like that? Both axis were pretty close to 1000 IIRC.

izakthegoomba · Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:54 am

Goddammit guys couldn't we at least have let Mist get here first?

izakthegoomba · Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:42 am

In post 12561, Mist7676 wrote:
In post 12557, izakthegoomba wrote:Goddammit guys couldn't we at least have let Mist get here first?

I saw your video this morning >___> I was like, yuup. Can't play minecraft anymore .__. Than ohhh yeah. April Fools :3

izakthegoomba · Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:47 am

You could go to combustion engines, but unless you want to get into BC3/TE really heavily they're not worth your time. Maybe making some biomass with a fermenter would work better for you? You can make almost a whole bucket out of 1 sapling, and it gives 5 MJ/T in a Biogas engine.

izakthegoomba · Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:02 am

There's solar power and electric engines too. They're a big investment if you don't already have a mass fab running, but you never have to worry about them once you've made them. Just throw them down and boom, free power.

izakthegoomba · Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:12 am

Nope. RP2 machines only send items into a tube if there's a valid inventory for them to go to. So you DO get items stuck in the tubes, but only those that got pushed into them before the previous item filled up whatever inventory they were meant to go into.

izakthegoomba · Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:47 am

In post 12588, Kinetic wrote:Server seems to have taken a hard crash. It isn't getting back up.

I've hit restart, but I'm on my phone so I've got no idea if it worked or not. Someone let me know?

izakthegoomba · Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:45 pm

In post 12597, Maruchan wrote:Since Thaumcraft fixed their interaction with PortalGun's Portal-To-The-Moon, I tried other methods.

lolololololollolol

.......................

Do you have

any

idea how powerful a 202 explosion is?

izakthegoomba · Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:57 am

Pretty sure something's screwed up then. THIS is what a 202 explosion should look like:

Spoiler:

The crater itself isn't enormous, but the area around it is totally wrecked. And some of the shard-type lines underground go out a loooooong way.

izakthegoomba · Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:38 am

We are (will be?) talking about stuff to do with the update.

izakthegoomba · Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:50 am

In post 12612, Rhinox wrote:UUM-able?

Can be made from UU-Matter, an item added by IC2 made in a Mass Fabricator and used to craft many different items.

izakthegoomba · Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:59 pm

Nope. Going to be doing it in multiplayer when we have the time.

izakthegoomba · Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:12 pm

Nope. I'll probably just be playing it with scroo on a LAN server, but I think Klaz said he'd like to play too so maybe I'll grab another cheap-ass daddycheese server.

izakthegoomba · Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:21 pm

Mhm. I'm concerned about it being overcrowded though. I've found with large numbers of players both the loot and the challenges are spread far too thinly and every area become "everyone rush in at once and see how many torches we can get down before we all die".

izakthegoomba · Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:20 am

In post 12632, Maruchan wrote:
In post 12627, izakthegoomba wrote:Nope. I'll probably just be playing it with scroo on a LAN server, but I think Klaz said he'd like to play too so maybe I'll grab another cheap-ass daddycheese server.

Grab a cheapass ms-hosting server instead!

Ok. How cheapass, and how much RAM?

izakthegoomba · Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:53 am

One day you'll want to completely fill somebody's house up with cake. When that day comes, you'll be glad you didn't voidpipe them.

izakthegoomba · Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:05 am

It's not really mine...

izakthegoomba · Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:38 am

We're a cult of ninjas.

(but not really)

izakthegoomba · Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:53 pm

Lol, I haven't been on FTB for a week and a bit. Kinda forgot I left my mass fab running.

M, give me admin access to the vanilla server? Bukkit is out for 1.5.1 now.

izakthegoomba · Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:00 pm

...so Maru made the PR non-tech-savvy admin the only one with the power to change permissions?

izakthegoomba · Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:19 am

Ok, thanks.

izakthegoomba · Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:54 pm

izakthegoomba · Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:32 pm

Welp, missed it.

izakthegoomba · Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:18 am

You can root through my chests and borrow my spare gravity gun to grab them with, if you like. Pretty sure I left it lying around somewhere, just put it back after.

izakthegoomba · Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:51 am

Right click with it to grab blocks and move them around.

izakthegoomba · Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:45 am

Yeah, I've been in Wales for the last week with a horrible internet connection, but I'm back now and with a relatively clear schedule. What time would be good for you?

izakthegoomba · Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:08 am

5 hours is going to be 2 am for me...

izakthegoomba · Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:52 am

Ok. So how does tomorrow evening for me, afternoon for you guys sound? Maybe 19:00/14:00 or 20:00/15:00?

izakthegoomba · Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:47 am

Uhhhhh, guys?

izakthegoomba · Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:50 am

Ok I'll ger on in a minute. Someone PM me a link to the room?

izakthegoomba · Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:17 am

Didn't really happen.

izakthegoomba · Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:49 am

What books, on what server?

izakthegoomba · Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:53 am

He was there at first, I think he even typed a few lines. But somewhere between me shutting up and you arriving he buggered off.

izakthegoomba · Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:45 pm

So maru, is updating the vanilla server to 1.5 just a matter of adding the new craftbukkit jar and selecting it from the control panel? I still can't get hold of corin...

izakthegoomba · Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:14 am

Ok, I'll do a full backup and have a go later.

izakthegoomba · Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:39 am

I didn't watch it but... are those

sheep

?

izakthegoomba · Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:42 am

izakthegoomba · Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:45 am

So my internet connection is too derpy to make a proper backup. Fuuuuuuun.

I'll try again tomorrow.

izakthegoomba · Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:01 pm

Maybe but I can't promise anything today.

izakthegoomba · Wed May 01, 2013 7:37 am

...

...

...

izakthegoomba · Wed May 01, 2013 10:17 am

Ok, posting this here instead of the PMs because I think the answer may affect other's decisions:

If a consensus is reached that we would prefer to restart the world as necessary in order to keep up to date, is that with the understanding that we just start with basic starter kits, or that we get to bring over an inventory-load?

izakthegoomba · Wed May 01, 2013 11:03 am

In post 12876, Maruchan wrote:
In post 12873, izakthegoomba wrote:Ok, posting this here instead of the PMs because I think the answer may affect other's decisions:

If a consensus is reached that we would prefer to restart the world as necessary in order to keep up to date, is that with the understanding that we just start with basic starter kits, or that we get to bring over an inventory-load?
as for the next update thats up to the admins, as for from then on, assume it means fresh-start.

For the record I think this is wrong. If we're going to accept the fact that we're likely to restart on a semi-regular basis, people should at least be allowed to bring SOME stuff over. As others have said in the past, the initial resource grind gets VERY dull after a while.

izakthegoomba · Wed May 01, 2013 11:10 am

In post 12880, Maestro wrote:
In post 12879, izakthegoomba wrote:the initial resource grind gets VERY dull after a while
permission to disagree - I happen to love punching trees and raiding Villages for books and food

I'm talking more about the horrendous amount of work needed for your first HVSA, or steam boiler, or whatever. Maybe a full inventory is too much, but I certainly don't want to re-create everything legitimately every time a modmaker messes something up.

izakthegoomba · Wed May 01, 2013 11:14 am

No, that's just one possibility, though based on recent events it could become an alarmingly frequent one.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 02, 2013 9:23 am

This page... goddammit guys.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 02, 2013 10:04 am

So it's pretty clear to me that we should have just waited a couple of extra weeks for Ultimate to become available and gone with that instead.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 02, 2013 11:16 am

In post 12904, blake5135 wrote:Nether = Hell
Aether = Heaven

Except not really.

The Aether is (was?) an immensely sucky mod and anyone who likes it should feel bad. Anyone who likes it enough to want it in an SMP modpack doesn't deserve to be taken seriously. >:3

izakthegoomba · Thu May 02, 2013 11:21 am

NOPE NOPE NOPE

It's a nice idea incredibly poorly executed, with a ridiculous amount of content, most of which is underwhelming, some of which is actively terrible, and all of which would feel even more out-of-place in a modpack than it does when it's the only mod present.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 02, 2013 8:32 pm

Actually, even the GregTech config I made a while ago isn't perfect, but it's easy to fix - cut out the compression/maceration recipes for glowstone and a few other important blocks, scrap the Matter Fabricator, and it doesn't effect ANYTHING from vanilla or other mods.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 03, 2013 12:18 pm

Mystcraft is young and has yet to be properly optimised. It may be that in a few updates' time it will run perfectly smoothly.

izakthegoomba · Mon May 06, 2013 7:39 am

Is he going to update it too? My connection is still too borky to do it without risking losing the files.

izakthegoomba · Mon May 06, 2013 11:50 pm

Look at the configs I sent again. The harder solar panel recipe, like many others, can be disabled. And like I said, I'm even going to cut out the matter fab and the rolling machine/macerator recipes for glowstone and ores and stuff.

FTB Ultimate's default config isn't as "easy mode" as you can make it.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 07, 2013 5:31 am

In post 12950, Rob14 wrote:As a general rule, if you have to spend time to remove large parts of a mod in order to make it even usable, then it's not a mod we should really be interested in.

For the last time: what I want to do with GregTech is not changing it, or removing ANY parts of it. It is stopping it from changing OTHER mods, which is people's main issue with it.

In post 12951, Rob14 wrote:By the way - I want to throw in my 2 cents in written form about the ongoing poll. I think that we should have server restarts every 6 or 12 months. After that time, all of the people on-server will have basically reached beyond endgame months ago and will be starting to get bored.

What about people that want to make big build? What about people who take their time over it? What about people who inevitably start late or take a break at some point, and as a result never reach "beyond endgame"? You are massively over-generalising the situation.

In post 12954, Maruchan wrote:Izak, are you available in the next twelve hours to get on IRC. if we don't get this done today I'll just get M and klaz when they're both on then PM you our logs and see if you have anything to add

Yet again: if we are collectively incapable of getting together at the same time without someone not turning up or going to play starcraft, is this really not something we can handle through PMs?

izakthegoomba · Tue May 07, 2013 9:49 am

Because my internet is too dumb to update it without risking the files, M doesn't know how to (I think?), and corin just hasn't.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 07, 2013 10:28 am

Go for it, just make sure once you've got the files on your machine you make a second copy of them and load up the world in single player to make sure it's not corrupted or anything.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 07, 2013 10:32 am

In post 12967, izakthegoomba wrote:Go for it, just make sure once you've got the files on your machine you make a second copy of them and load up the world in single player to make sure it's not corrupted or anything.

Also maybe put the essential files (region files, player files, and config) on mediafire in case your hard drive implodes while you're updating it?

izakthegoomba · Fri May 10, 2013 5:00 am

Tinker's doesn't look like it would mesh very well with the other mods we use...

izakthegoomba · Fri May 10, 2013 11:22 am

I'm as clueless as you.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 11, 2013 1:55 am

tl;dr...?

izakthegoomba · Sat May 11, 2013 3:23 am

izakthegoomba · Sun May 12, 2013 9:03 pm

Psssst, you guys play with a

mouse

?

Anyway, yeah it's a stupid idea, frankly even Ops shouldn't be able to do it in Survival.

izakthegoomba · Sun May 12, 2013 9:27 pm

Mice are

almost

as clumsy as touchpads.

izakthegoomba · Sun May 12, 2013 11:19 pm

Toss them on the ground and let them despawn. Most people are probably running around with NEI open. This WILL result in people throwing away valuable stuff because they forgot or didn't know - or just misclicked.

izakthegoomba · Wed May 15, 2013 9:09 pm

In post 13058, fuzzybutternut wrote:RHINOX HOW DO I FORESTRY?!?!

BEEEEEEEEEEES

izakthegoomba · Wed May 15, 2013 11:47 pm

SCREW THAT

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

izakthegoomba · Thu May 16, 2013 9:04 am

I hate you.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 16, 2013 10:14 am

I plan to mess with the individual player.dat files to facilitate moving stuff over, so if (for example) we decide on bringing a hotbar full of stuff over, make sure that's on your hotbar ASAP.

(also note not all mods, and therefore not all items, will be moving across to the new pack)

izakthegoomba · Thu May 16, 2013 8:27 pm

In post 13081, Rhinox wrote:Assuming forestry will still be in, can I petition that my bred forestry saplings count separate from whatever inventory space is allotted for moving stuff to the new world? I worked really hard to get them all, it took me a while (see post history ITT), and I only just finished up with the last bred sapling last time I was on the server. If I have to use my allotted slots for saving my saplings that won't leave me much if any room to transfer any other stuff. They definitely won't even all fit on one hotbar

Forestry is definitely going to be in the new pack. How many are we talking? Because I think a hotbar full is far too restrictive, personally - I'd argue for an inventory full. Would they fit if we went with that?

izakthegoomba · Fri May 17, 2013 6:10 am

They would work, but I'd say we should disallow any items which can be used to carry other items. Void tears, anyone?

Anyway, I'm thinking it would be easier if instead of moving player files, we had a bunch of chests near spawn and people can label them with their name and put the stuff they want to keep in them. One chest-full seems reasonable (it's less than an inventory-full), and it would be easier to manage that way.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 17, 2013 6:16 am

Grab a copy of the world just before we take the server down and put it up for download somewhere, I'll handle it from there.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 17, 2013 7:04 am

Yup. Also having stuff in chests makes it many, many times easier for me to check for disallowed items, or stuff from mods that aren't coming over with us. Also it lets me link it to a starter kit system much more easily.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 17, 2013 11:39 am

Psssst. Maru. Might want to tell everyone

why

it's important they watch that stuff...

izakthegoomba · Fri May 17, 2013 11:39 am

In post 13106, blake5135 wrote:When was thaumcraft included on the new modpack.. :3

izakthegoomba · Fri May 17, 2013 12:02 pm

They haven't.

Also it looks like Tinkers Construct is going to become even more awesome very soon, looking at some of mDiyo's recent posts.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 17, 2013 12:29 pm

For the record I still think everyone involved is a whiny baby when it comes to IC2/GregTech. But I appreciate why it has to go.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 17, 2013 8:34 pm

Oh my god, you guys...

In post 13121, Rob14 wrote:And no, Izak does NOT count. He is NOT part of the community. He was 3 months ago. He isn't now. I can't remember the last time I saw him in-game or on IRC.

I stopped playing frequently on the server both because of the future restart, and because of my own time constraints. I stayed active in the thread and (timezones allowing) in admin talks. And I always intended to come right back the moment we had a stable world again. If the other admins really think this warrants me getting kicked out then fine, I've pretty much had enough of this anyway. But I think it's slightly ridiculous.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 18, 2013 7:28 am

Rob, if you really think the game can't be played without IC2, ask dappyscroo about it. He's done just fine without touching IC2 on either of the SMP worlds he's played on, and aside from UUM, you can't reasonably say he was lagging behind, or getting any less out of the game.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 18, 2013 7:32 am

Rob, have you TRIED playing without IC2? It's not as bad as you think.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 18, 2013 8:47 am

In post 13195, fuzzybutternut wrote:Runic dust mod is pretty cool.

Indeed.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 18, 2013 10:04 am

Not sure if we're going to do the item-transfer thing yet, or something different. One problem with moving items over, no matter how few or many we allow, is that it is horribly, horribly unfair for those who mostly did IC2, TC3, or RP2.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 18, 2013 9:36 pm

In post 13212, Maruchan wrote:On that note, anyone who wants to have any chance of shit coming to the new server (IF WE ALLOW THIS), you need to have your stuff centralized in a chest by Sunday night at midnight, EST. The server will be going offline at that point. PM me the X Y Z coords of your said chest at your earliest convenience.

On that note, please be aware that

EVEN IF WE DO MOVE STUFF OVER, IT MAY NOT BE A WHOLE CHEST FULL, LET ALONE A DOUBLE OR IRON CHEST

. So it's probably a good idea to prioritise the stuff that you put in.

In post 13217, Maestro wrote:It's not broken?

What happened to you updating it?

izakthegoomba · Sun May 19, 2013 2:00 am

Tell me what I can do to help. I just don't want to do the actual updating without a proper backup.

izakthegoomba · Sun May 19, 2013 5:52 am

Yeah, MagicLauncher is AMAZING for putting together your own sets of mods.

Also, Tinker's is better balanced than I thought - at a first glance Manyullyn seems like a kind of ultimate endgame god-material, but for picks at least cobalt is actually "better", Manyullyn is just more durable.

izakthegoomba · Sun May 19, 2013 5:53 am

Also also if you haven't tried Applied Energistics or watched DW20's spotlights for it, I highly recommend you do so. For sorting systems, IMO it's much better than anything RedPower or GregTech could do.

izakthegoomba · Sun May 19, 2013 7:02 am

Pretty sure it's just you. Nothing about worldgen on the changlog - and it's the kind of thing that would have to go on there.

izakthegoomba · Sun May 19, 2013 10:26 pm

Wait, what happened to putting the configs in a document? I could have helped you.

izakthegoomba · Sun May 19, 2013 10:27 pm

(also doesn't MFRL count for like 30 mods all by itself? I'm sure that number should be nearer 100)

izakthegoomba · Sun May 19, 2013 10:41 pm

That's... odd. Any error logs, or just doesn't do anything?

izakthegoomba · Sun May 19, 2013 10:52 pm

Yeah, that makes sense. So are Maestro and I going to have to get all these mods working together in order to test it?

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 2:42 am

ATTENTION, PEOPLE:

After some discussion we have decided that, in most cases, we will

NOT

be moving over items from the old world to the new one. If you feel you have something that should be bought over despite this decision (e.g. Rhinox and his saplings) feel free to PM me about it, but the answer will probably be "no".

The main reason for this is balance; many people, perhaps even the majority, have focused mostly on IC2, RP2, or TC3, none of which will be in the MafiaCraft pack. This means that if we were to let people bring items with them, those who focused on Thermal Expansion or another major mod would be at a massive advantage right from the start.

Instead, when you log in to the new world, you will be able to choose between three different starter kits. The first is an improved version of the one on the current server; it includes some tools, blocks, armor, food, etc., to help you get started. The second is a bundle of raw resources, including most ores that can generate, as well as some wood, stone, and coal. Finally, you can choose to receive almost an inventory-full of various building blocks and decorative items, most of which are full stacks. You may also, of course, choose to play without a starter kit and "punch your own damn trees".

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 3:23 am

Well, we need to get it working on the dev server, test it for a couple of days, get the pack approved, and prepare a world to be played in. We'll be releasing the code as soon as we have it - the server likely won't be up until a few days after that, but at least you guys can have SSP/creative worlds with the new modpack.

Spoiler: here's the mod list if you're interested

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 5:36 am

Also, we have at least one player who's deaf.

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 6:39 am

CameraCraft (when it gets updated) allows you to teleport through pictures if you have a charged Teleport Battery.

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 7:19 am

In post 13257, Rhinox wrote:
In post 13255, izakthegoomba wrote:CameraCraft (when it gets updated) allows you to teleport through pictures if you have a charged Teleport Battery.
Wow really? Thats actually pretty cool. *goes to read about the mod*

But given that it won't be in the D1 modpack and that one needs a continuous supply of ender pearls to be able to teleport (not to mention investing the time and resources to craft all the cameracraft stuff), surely we can not just rely on this as the primary method of transportation, right?

I think we'll probably all end up using it eventually - ender pearls aren't an issue once I've built another enderman farm.

But yeah, rails are cool. More of us should use rails.

In post 13259, Rhinox wrote:So how does everyone go about getting started with resource collecting and managment these days? I know klaz will be turtle mining on day 1 but what does eveyone else do? Manual mining? Quarries? other automated systems? Just wondering what I should be going for to get the most out of my resourcing and getting on to doing other things. I just manually mined in the current server, and I'm looking to do things more better starting in the new server.

I'm guessing most of us will manually mine at first, and then use quarries.

Bear in mind there will be some rules about quarries - they count as chunkloading machines, loading up to 25 chunks, and we're limiting chunk loading to 36 per player. Also quarries in the overworld must not be visible from the surface unless you plan to make them look nice afterwards (like I was on the world before the last one), and no quarries (or pumps) are allowed within 3000 blocks of 0,0 in the nether.

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 8:49 am

In post 13263, Andrius wrote:...so if I actually wanted to play minecraft with you guys on the fancypeople server how exactly would I do that?

Because I miss playing with people and if you're going to SERVERRESET then I think now's a good time to jump in.

Also we CAN use the MS mumble. Not sure what you're using now but.

For vanilla, just connect through the IP, but not many of us play there any more. For FTB, when the pack's available there will be instructions for how to get it through the FTB launcher. It should be a matter of hitting a few buttons and typing in a code.

Also, QUICK SHOW OF HANDS FOR THE NEW PACK'S TAGLINE:

A MOB HAS SPAWNED
or
A MOD HAS FORMED
or
A MOD HAS SPAWNED

I like the first, personally.

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 8:52 am

COME ON GUYS

I NEED TO FINISH THE SPLASH IMAGE, DAMMIT

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 8:56 am

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 8:57 am

Andrius, you need to downgrade. Nobody's updated the server yet. (grumble, grumble)

http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_7/minecraft.jar

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 8:58 am

In post 13269, blake5135 wrote:what are you talking about izak

In the FTB launcher, each pack has an icon which appears in the list on the left, and an image that appears when you click on it. I'm asking what wording we want under the logo on the second image.

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 9:04 am

Download it, back up your current minecraft.jar, then put that in user/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/bin. Run minecraft. You should be in 1.4.7.

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 9:10 am

OK PEOPLE

Three potential candidates for our splash screen image. Any preference?

Spoiler: pics

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 10:07 am

Top: 3
Middle: 3
Bottom: 4

Goddammit guys...

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 10:47 am

GODDAMMIT MIST

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 11:46 am

YAY KLAZ

I'll throw together an icon later. I think I'll keep it simple, maybe just an "M" in the lava-y font against a slight gradient.

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 12:22 pm

It's not exactly an official vote, guys. >_>

Klaz, are we SURE minefactory includes nether ores? I tried it today and I'm pretty sure it doesn't unless I'm doing something very, very wrong...

izakthegoomba · Mon May 20, 2013 10:03 pm

Klaz, we're switching to Zan's minimap, right? Because your list still says Rei's.

Edit: ...which would be fine if I could find permission for Zan's anywhere...

Edit2: Yeah, Zan abandoned his mods way back in Beta 1.2, and they were taken over by Lahwran, who abandoned them in Beta 1.8. They're now being maintained on Planet Minecraft, but there's no licence, meaning there's no way the FTB team will let us use it. I'm putting Rei's in the info file unless we get permission somehow.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 12:57 am

In post 13315, Klazam wrote:quick input from community- should I leave the petroleum alone, or edit configs to remove petroleum?

Depends what it is that adds it and what it does in that mod. And I think you need quite a bit of copper for TE and Forestry stuff? Those could be too easy if you can turn petroleum into copper.

Also, we have a few problem mods, unless Maru already got proper permissions:

- Damage Indicators and Traincraft need specific permission to put them in a modpack.
- iChunUtil doesn't seem to say ANYTHING about modpacks; we may get away with it since iChun says anyone can use GravityGun or PortalGun in a pack and you NEED iChunUtil for those, but it's worth checking out.
- Factorization and SecretRooms require us to notify the modmakers. I'm going to go deal with these now.

Edit: sent notifications to neptunepink and AbrarSyed, and put them in the txt. Still need to resolve the other three if we don't already have permission.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 1:11 am

FTB guys want a 420x200 splash image, but the actual images that appear in the launcher are 400x200. So either somebody screwed up, or they're going to squash my beautiful MafiaCraft banners.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 1:55 am

Ok, I resized them to 400x200 and threw them onto the launcher background to see how they'd look:

Spoiler: pics

Decided to scrap the other idea because I didn't like the fact that the "scum" in the MS logo is red and the "craft" in that one wasn't.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 3:24 am

Hey klaz, the buildcraft link is broken and it doesn't look like there's a mirror.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 3:28 am

Factorization, too. D:

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 3:38 am

BC
Factorization
Forestry
Inventory Tweaks

^all borked. Other than those four I've got my MultiMC instance set up an ready for testing.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 3:39 am

In post 13331, Klazam wrote:http://www.mod-buildcraft.com/
3.5.0

Yeah, that's broken too.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 3:40 am

Just realised I didn't click through the last adf.ly - ExtraBees is broken too.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 4:26 am

I thought Maru didn't want to be involved any more...?

Anyway, almost all the modmakers we might otherwise need to contact have explicitly granted permission for private FTB packs - have a look at this.

Anyway, I'll PM you what I've got, in the format they want it. The ones marked ">>>NEED PERMISSION" should be the only ones we still need explicit permission from the modmakers for.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 4:57 am

Point still stands - at most it takes 30 minutes to compile the vast majority of the permissions we have.

...at least tell me you didn't make a separate info file too?

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 5:42 am

I'm on...

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 7:40 am

Small update on FTB stuffs:

Apart from the petroleum issue/non-issue, the mods seem to work together just fine. Currently we're waiting on Klaz sending me the official MultiMC instance, Maru gathering the few permissions we're still lacking, and me taking a look over the configs - then we're pretty much ready to submit the pack. Private packs go live on Thursdays and preparing the map shouldn't take long, so if everything goes to plan the server should be up some time this weekend.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 9:12 pm

Oooookay, so I haven't read everything in great detail, but I'll say a few things anyway.

1. I will pretty much go where the community goes, restarts or not, vanilla or modded. Just not TerraFirmaCraft.

2. I am against a vanilla server restert FOR NOW. There are still rumblings of a Biomes Update in the future; one that will massively change world generation. I say we restart when, and only when, an update like that comes along.

3. WOOOOO TIERCE! This stuff is much better than Voltz.

4. Huh, hardcore co-op server? That's... different. Maybe I'll try it out later.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 11:04 pm

Trying to run the modpack through MultiMC and Forge isn't downloading the files properly. Might just be a server problem on their end though - I'll try again in a bit.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 11:49 pm

So it looks like it's just one file that files.minecraftforge.net REALLY doesn't want to give me. Anyone got a copy of deobfuscation_data_1.5.1.zip? Ideally from the build we're using.

izakthegoomba · Tue May 21, 2013 11:59 pm

Ok, it downloaded. Hopefully this goes a bit smoother once it's in the launcher.

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 12:01 am

...or not. Turns out it was the wrong download. Klaz/M, did you have any problems downloading the libraries?

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 4:12 am

Weird. So should we go ahead with the submission, or wait until I can verify that this thing actually works?

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 5:18 am

I'm on. Still getting a fatal error when it tries to download the de-obfuscation stuff though.

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 8:00 am

Hey maru. Permissions for DamageIndicators and TrainCraft would be nice right about now...

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 9:04 am

ABOUT THE FTB SERVER:

Because we're submitting MafiaCraft as a Private Server pack (not Private Public), we're not allowed to publicly distribute the pack code - we have to give it out privately. So if you want to be able to use the pack as soon as it's available (hopefully tomorrow if Maru gets me the damn screenies, otherwise next thursday), put your MS name on this:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WtN ... LihiU/edit

I already added everyone I could think of off the top of my head, but check just to be sure. If you're not on there by the time the pack goes live you'll have to PM me/Klaz/M for the code, so you'll be waiting longer.

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 9:10 am

Oh, and since someone asked:

Spoiler: MafiaCraft v1 - OFFICIAL MOD LIST:

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 10:07 am

Thanks. Did we get one for Ropes+?

Just saw the atomicstriker one. Awesome!

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 10:46 am

Uploading pack now, preparing PM to modpack team...

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 11:28 am

IT IS DONE

Unless I goofed something up, we should have it available in the launcher some time tomorrow. Make sure you put your name on that google doc so you get the code the moment they tell me it's up.

M, Klaz, I'll send you the mediafire link in a second.

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 1:51 pm

Had to submit a 1.0.3 to fix an ID conflict that went unnoticed before; I'm hoping it won't affect anything, but it

could

potentially delay the pack getting published.

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 3:54 pm

No. I don't even know if they've looked at it yet; I was just hoping that they didn't get to it before I uploaded the fixed version.

izakthegoomba · Wed May 22, 2013 9:51 pm

The trouble with an independent mod is that there's a really, REALLY strong movement away from anything that modifies base files (and has been for a while). If it was forge, then yeah, I'm not sure why it's not updated already.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 23, 2013 3:04 am

Red Rock biome? MINE. I SHALL BUILD A MARTIAN BASE.

And what's with the emerald block? I liked my Glowstone Brick.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 23, 2013 3:14 am

In post 13425, blake5135 wrote:you guys actually made a spawn town!

I wasn't there when they first loaded up the world, but I think it was a coincidence that they found a village near spawn, and we just decided to prettify it a bit.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 23, 2013 3:19 am

Yeah, I'm think the previous server is the only MS server where we didn't invade a village.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 23, 2013 10:54 am

Spawn and starter packs are all set up and ready to go. Here's screenies of the starter packs:

Spoiler: pics

Still nothing from the modpack team, guys. But I think two of the three are PST, so it might be coming later.

Unfortunately, since we don't have a VPN for the server any more, there may be issues if everyone rushes at once - if the code becomes available when it's late afternoon/evening for east america, we may not be able to whitelist everyone immediately.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 23, 2013 10:55 am

Also, M/Klaz if you're around: I don't have FTP to the dev server, so there's no backup.

Maru, could you leave the dev server up until we can move the world across? Thanks.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 23, 2013 11:58 am

The FTB server? We're currently waiting on the FTB team to review the permissions and publish it to the launcher. From there M will need to move the files over to the proper FTB server from the dev server we've been testing/building/messing around on, and then we can open the world up to you guys.

izakthegoomba · Thu May 23, 2013 9:15 pm

In post 13459, fuzzybutternut wrote:Does it have to not be thursday or something?

They only upload packs on Thursdays.

That said, I've still heard nothing... maybe one of the modpack team live in Hawaii?

izakthegoomba · Thu May 23, 2013 9:48 pm

Ok, I've at least got a status update from FTB now - it's in the launcher but somewhat borked. They're trying to fix it.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 24, 2013 12:34 am

They said they're working on it. There's a whole bunch of packs that aren't downloading properly - they're available in the launcher, but they're launching vanilla minecraft.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 24, 2013 10:16 am

Hey everyone! Just posting to let you know that MafiaCraft 1.0.3 has been approved and is now available in the FTB launcher! I'll be sending the code to everyone in the google doc in just a moment - if you're not on there but you've played on a previous MS minecraft server, feel free to PM me and I'll give you the code.

You can view the modlist and full credits here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16M0 ... Wyr8ObTRb8

The server isn't quite ready just yet, but we'll be releasing the IP very soon.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 24, 2013 10:35 am

I'm putting the whitelist together - anyone know the MC names for Blake, Rhinox, JacobSavage, or Axel?

izakthegoomba · Fri May 24, 2013 1:02 pm

In post 13489, T-Bone wrote:Stop "setting up" the server and just let us get loose.

Whatever happened to the days where we didn't need to build a pretty spawn platform before we could allow players into the world?

Because of what you guys said, we scrapped the village idea. What we have this time is a spawn platform with some CC monitors for important stuff, like rules and credits (the latter of which we're legally obliged to have there) and a small clearing in the middle of a forest, lit up so that

Mist

creepers don't annihilate the aforementioned credits board. The starter kits are there because people want them, and they're completely optional - if you don't like them, don't take them. Even stopping to read all the monitors at spawn, at the very most it will take you 2-3 minutes to run off into the forest, at which point all this has literally no effect on how you play the game.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 24, 2013 1:12 pm

Regarding the issue some of you are having with the pack (launching as vanilla): I've asked the FTB team about it, but based on some recent forum posts it looks like this is an issue on their end that occurs somewhat inconsistantly and they're still working to resolve.

izakthegoomba · Fri May 24, 2013 9:59 pm

FTB team wrote a post about the issue, seems it's quite common:

Watchful11 (head of the 3rd party modpack team) wrote:Ok, let me explain what's happening with the whole launching vanilla thing.
When I get your pack, either new or an update, I check the permissions, then I have to build it for the repo. The repo needs the zip file with the instance in a specific place. It also needs that images in another folder. Then it needs an xml file with all the information about the pack so that launcher can display it. So, I get all that, for 20+ packs that need to be uploaded, and upload it all to the repo. This usually adds up to a gig or more of data, so it takes some time. When it's on the repo, 2 things are done. First the repo copies the files to the other download repos. For a gig of data this takes some time, though not all that long, maybe an hour or three. But then, or maybe first, it calculates the MD5 hash of the zip and stores it on each server. I usually wait a while to upload the xml files so this process has some time to happen and the launcher hopefully doesn't try to download something that isn't there.
So here's what can go wrong. If the zip file hasn't gotten copied to the other servers yet, the launcher will try to download it, download nothing, then download the vanilla minecraft jar and just run that. Alternatively, if the zip is there, but the MD5 isn't, the launcher downloads it, but then can't validate that it is the correct file and doesn't unzip it. Then same as above it downloads vanilla and runs that. Both these problems are solved by just waiting for the repo to catch up.
I have extended the upload period to end friday(see above post) for exactly this reason. I will try to do some more thorough checking to make sure both the zip and MD5 are in the right places before updating the xml and letting the launcher update each pack.

Sounds to me as if it should be fixed by now. If it's still launching vanilla for you, try taking these steps - they fixed it for me when I had trouble earlier.

1. Remove MafiaCraft from the launcher. You do this exactly like how you add it, but just hit "remove" instead.
2. Close the FTB launcher
3. Delete your entire "MafiaCraft" folder in your "FTB" directory. If you have saves, textures, or anything else you want to keep, back them up OUT of the FTB folder.
4. Re-open the launcher, add the pack, and let it download again.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 25, 2013 1:51 am

MAFIACRAFT FTB SERVER IS UP!

IP - 46.105.234.0:25602

If you're not whitelisted, post your MC name here. If you don't have access to the pack, PM me. Enjoy!

izakthegoomba · Sat May 25, 2013 2:12 am

I believe Immibi has a microblocks mod, similar to redpower microblocks, which might be worth a look for next time we update. Not sure how much it interfaces with mods, though, and it's not really worthwhile if you can only cut up vanilla blocks.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 25, 2013 3:26 am

In post 13518, JacobSavage wrote:I need to be whitelisted

Its JSav93 by the way.

Done.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 25, 2013 8:48 am

Mine. Largely the result of the starter kit and several hours of gameplay...

izakthegoomba · Sat May 25, 2013 9:18 am

Also villager trading makes them obtainable in VANILLA survival, but that's not it either.

We amended the first starter kit to have some enchanting stuff, since it was looking pretty underpowered. That includes some bottles of enchanting.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 25, 2013 9:32 am

Here's a screenie of the updated Tools & Equipment kit:

izakthegoomba · Sat May 25, 2013 9:52 am

Aaaaaaand because ETL couldn't decide, full starterkit lists: http://pastebin.com/D58k7zva

izakthegoomba · Sat May 25, 2013 12:30 pm

I got my blaze spawner home just fine, so I doubt it was me. If it was then the gun must have bugged out and duplicated it somehow.. If nobody else gets it first I'll get on and break it in the morning.

izakthegoomba · Sat May 25, 2013 1:41 pm

In post 13541, blake5135 wrote:Kinda interferes with me because I need to go into the nether..

...can't you just break it?

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