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New Vanilla Server?

Yes, on latest stable version; with fun events & mini-games!
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Yes, on latest stable version; for consistency & community! (no plugins)
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Yes, on "snapshots"/development versions; bleeding edge! (definitely no plugins)
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Yes, but I'll post with my specific thoughts and ideas!
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Post Post #12175 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:48 pm

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In post 12173, izakthegoomba wrote:Number is random as far as I can tell, you need to check it through the CP.


Where do I go to actually check that? I can't find anything in multicraft
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Post Post #12176 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:59 pm

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In post 12175, Rhinox wrote:
In post 12173, izakthegoomba wrote:Number is random as far as I can tell, you need to check it through the CP.


Where do I go to actually check that? I can't find anything in multicraft


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my number was 9, which maybe was just a lucky ass guess, but it was also the number at the end of the URL when I clicked on my servers: "server/view&id=9"

I first tried 10 because it was the number at the end when I clicked on profile: "user/view&id=10"

now I just need to figure out which files to backup.
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Post Post #12177 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:45 pm

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World folders are most important
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Post Post #12178 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:16 pm

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I copied the entire /world directory.

its currently ~500mb, and it took filezilla only 8 minutes to transfer on my connection.

I'll do this whenever I play and keep a few backups. I'm sure in a few months the directory will get a lot bigger and then I'll think about changing how I do it.

Another thing I've come across is sites mentioning to disable saving during file transfer or I could end up with a corrupted backup. The recommended procedure is /save all, /save off, do backup, /save on - I don't think its a very good idea for me or anyone other than ops to be able to turn saving on and off for obvious reasons, just pointing out that this may limit the actual benefit to any of this manual saving. If there was a save between 9:07 and 9:15 PM est while I was copying the files, it might not be possible to use them to restore anything anyways. idk, I'm not entirely sure how it all works. I would guess it'd be ideal to copy files when no one is on the server (shouldn't be any saves then right?) which I can see from the CP, but then that limits when I can actually do the backups anyways. Just food for thought.
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Post Post #12179 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:34 pm

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Rhinox - notify me via PM on here if you're ever looking to do a backup. I can shut down the server while you back-up or do the save fiddling you suggest. Thanks for getting invested!
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Post Post #12180 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:44 pm

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In post 12178, Rhinox wrote:I copied the entire /world directory.

its currently ~500mb, and it took filezilla only 8 minutes to transfer on my connection.

I'll do this whenever I play and keep a few backups. I'm sure in a few months the directory will get a lot bigger and then I'll think about changing how I do it.

Another thing I've come across is sites mentioning to disable saving during file transfer or I could end up with a corrupted backup. The recommended procedure is /save all, /save off, do backup, /save on - I don't think its a very good idea for me or anyone other than ops to be able to turn saving on and off for obvious reasons, just pointing out that this may limit the actual benefit to any of this manual saving. If there was a save between 9:07 and 9:15 PM est while I was copying the files, it might not be possible to use them to restore anything anyways. idk, I'm not entirely sure how it all works. I would guess it'd be ideal to copy files when no one is on the server (shouldn't be any saves then right?) which I can see from the CP, but then that limits when I can actually do the backups anyways. Just food for thought.

The worst thing u can think of happening is that the chunks in use during your backup get corrupted. So if you ask everyone to log out first it should be fine
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Post Post #12181 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:46 pm

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In post 12179, Maestro wrote:Rhinox - notify me via PM on here if you're ever looking to do a backup. I can shut down the server while you back-up or do the save fiddling you suggest. Thanks for getting invested!

Do the save thing don't shut down
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Post Post #12182 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:09 pm

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Post Post #12183 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:02 pm

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In post 12178, Rhinox wrote:The recommended procedure is /save all, /save off, do backup, /save on - I don't think its a very good idea for me or anyone other than ops to be able to turn saving on and off for obvious reasons, just pointing out that this may limit the actual benefit to any of this manual saving.

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Post Post #12184 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:04 pm

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In post 12183, izakthegoomba wrote:
In post 12178, Rhinox wrote:The recommended procedure is /save all, /save off, do backup, /save on - I don't think its a very good idea for me or anyone other than ops to be able to turn saving on and off for obvious reasons, just pointing out that this may limit the actual benefit to any of this manual saving.

Yeah, just backing up the worlds without dealing with the saving system properly will more likely than not hand you a bunch of incomplete/corrupted files.

this is absolutly true and the reason why I sucked at making backups
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Post Post #12185 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:02 am

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Ok guys, enderchest combo WHITE-WHITE-WHITE is now a public item dump. Leave anything, take anything. There's a book in there to explain it to anyone who finds it by accident - please put it back once you've read it!
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Post Post #12186 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:00 am

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So basically I should only do a backup if A) the server is empty, or B) an op is around to do the /save all /save off *wait while I backup* /save on.

Since there were definitely people online when I copied files yesterday should I automatically assume they are corrupted and just delete them or is there a way to check, maybe like transferring the files to a single player world?
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Post Post #12187 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:13 am

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In post 12176, Rhinox wrote:
In post 12175, Rhinox wrote:
In post 12173, izakthegoomba wrote:Number is random as far as I can tell, you need to check it through the CP.


Where do I go to actually check that? I can't find anything in multicraft


woot I got in

my number was 9, which maybe was just a lucky ass guess, but it was also the number at the end of the URL when I clicked on my servers: "server/view&id=9"

I first tried 10 because it was the number at the end when I clicked on profile: "user/view&id=10"

now I just need to figure out which files to backup.


Mine was 9 too! Maybe they're all 9.
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Post Post #12188 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:15 am

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the number is based on the server number. The FTB server is server number nine, therefor when accessing FTB files, you will login with:
IP and port in the FTB server FTP settings
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the MS (was) 2 last i checked, so it would be username.2 and the ip it gives (I think it is locating at a different IP access as well)
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Post Post #12189 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:54 am

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@Maru - can i use the chat function in that CP until ftbbot comes back?
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Post Post #12190 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:21 pm

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Post Post #12191 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:42 pm

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Post Post #12192 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:04 pm

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I want chat, so I registered too
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Post Post #12193 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:55 pm

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GRAVISUITE UPDATE

ASDFTXYTYAGUIYHOSDAEYSUDFILRCSL

http://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/co ... tionsuite/

Please someone tell me this is going to be in the new version of the modpack by the time it's recommended?
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Post Post #12194 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:21 pm

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Just dug up a changelog. It is!
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Post Post #12195 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:37 pm

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I has an end portal! When do we want to murder the dragon?

(the egg is MINE, btw)
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Post Post #12196 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:09 am

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Ok I'm going to try backing stuff up just to make sure everything's working on my end. Nobody shut down the server in the next ~15 minutes, please.
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Post Post #12197 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:11 am

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In post 12195, izakthegoomba wrote:I has an end portal! When do we want to murder the dragon?

(the egg is MINE, btw)


I'd love to be in on the dragonicide, but I don't really feel as though I've made much headway on the being-prepared-for-a-big-fight front yet. I've been building machines and stuff, and haven't even bothered enchanting anything yet (although I am level 40-something).
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Post Post #12198 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:14 am

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I have a powerful XP grinder and a big pile of iron. I can throw you some decent armor and weapons for the fight.
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Post Post #12199 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:17 am

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359 file transfers and 5 minutes later, I backed up the whole world folder for the FTB server. Not bad at all. I'm going to see how long it takes to dump ALL the files now...
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