In post 455, Oversoul wrote:As I have said, I think Tierce's reaction to Quil's list was an overreaction and highly similar to when she bussed me in Paranoia. Yes I know her defense, but I'm not going to let this go for now.
Given the first two pages, I have a townread on Ludi and Alchemist. Minor townreads on Quilford and Zednek, but we'll see how this changes.
You know my defense (I didn't realize he was actually RVSing and jumped on it for being a bad list, period), so I don't really have anything to say about this. I'm interested in how you think this is similar to when I was bussing you in Paranoia and yet you have a minor townread on Quilford; in the same breath, you are claiming that Tierce-Quilford is equal to Paranoia Tierce-Oversoul but they are at the same time different. Makes little sense.
In post 455, Oversoul wrote:In post 49, Alchemist wrote:Quil is going way over the top. Wow.
Also;
In post 47, Quilford wrote:Ugh, I didn't want to get agro this early. Fuck.
Pretty sure we got scum here.
Why? His aggression if anything shows he doesn't care what people think and believes in the truthfulness of his list.
Then...
In post 455, Oversoul wrote:In post 54, Tierce wrote:Making a list like this at the stage in the game when you made it (Post 22) as town is absurd, especially when you bother listing players as null out of RVS votes. Town doesn't really find a need to classify players they don't yet have a read on, while scum would be more likely to present null-reads to show 'effort'.
Maybe I've played a few too many games with Mastin, but this behavior doesn't particularly bother me.
Why would Quilford do that if he could just blend in with the shadows by making a random vote and no reads list? The initiative is town, Tierce.
Hai, the list was RVS meant to garner reactions. I didn't think it was, I thought it was a supposedly-legitimate-reads-on-post-22 and called bullshit on it. Then I saw The Error In My Ways. I don't think it's particularly town (here's a Tierce-Quil/Tierce-Oversoul difference, I called you town in Paranoia, while I don't have a townread on Quil), but my scumread was wrong.
In post 455, Oversoul wrote:In post 54, Tierce wrote:Are we done with the pointless questioning? Great.
At this point I think we need to take a breather. There really isn't any reason you should be *this* angry Tierce, but then I again I don't know the whole story.
Why can't we be suspicious of your meta? You're asking town to do untowny things simply because you feel yourself to be clearly town.
Again, I never said you shouldn't be suspicious. The thing with Tammy was that she asked me to rehash what I had already said--and unlike you, she has no completed games with me nor is she familiar with my meta, so the whole thing seemed pointless.
In post 455, Oversoul wrote:What do you think of Quilford's aggro comment?
No opinion. I don't think it's relevant.
In post 455, Oversoul wrote:I am withholding a townread on Spyrex for a certain reason that I'll explain later, if I am allowed.
SHUT THE FUCK UP. If this reason is anywhere close to what I'm thinking, you need to STOP CLIAMING THIS CRAP, Oversoul. NOW. And yes, this makes me incredibly angry.
In post 455, Oversoul wrote:In post 77, Tierce wrote:Why do you think me saying who I think is a weak spot in this playerlist would benefit town?
Why no pressure on UN for asking Gamma what his "super secret scumtell" is?
I'm not really reading UN's posts.
In post 455, Oversoul wrote:In post 119, Tierce wrote:
Why are pursuing scumreads and defusing wagons on people you think are town exclusive? If you get a lynch on a scumread you shouldn't have to worry about a lynch on one of your townreads, no?
I'm not really seeing the whole reason for "defending" bad players.
Then again, I am pretty sure we've never had a towngame together other than Mafia with the Kitties.
Why do you not have a problem with Oman's vote when it is fairly clear we were out of RVS at the time of that vote? Is it because he has blue eyes?
Tierce, do you think your scumplay is unique to yourself?
I really don't see how you can be angry at Ludi for asking you "who are easy lynch ponies?" and then ask Glork to explain his "not at liberty statement"
Like seriously I don't understand the logic behind those two actions.
Will approach this and the rest later, I need food and breakfast closes in 10.
In post 455, Oversoul wrote:In post 186, Tierce wrote:Assertive aggressiveness can be good, and you're fooling yourself if you think I would be mellow and gentle as town in a game with this playerlist in these circumstances.
Need I point you to a thread in MD about town leaders? Sometimes being a person who isn't in the limelight is a good idea. Would you not agree?
In post 455, Oversoul wrote:In post 251, Glork wrote:Tierce's complete and utter confusion over flavor / win conditions is very likely genuine, as I'd expect her to tighten up the flavor screws before the game started if she were scum. Please move your vote somewhere more useful. Hell, I'd rather it be on me than Tierce at this point.
No.
If given the chance (beyond my control at this point) I will explain more, but no. That is not good logic to use when justifying *anyone* as town.
SHUT THE FUCK UP. Again.