Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[PeregrineV]

Vote:k e n d a l l

What's with all the extra spaces?

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1] Why did you decide to give mafiascum a try?
2] How do you react to people attacking you?
3] What will you be known for in this game?
4] What is your time zone?
5] How frequently can we expect you to post?

3) The person who didn't answer all the questions at once, or in the right order even.

[PeregrineV]

@Flavor- Thoughts so far is that there won't be much meta this game (I hope) what with all the offsite players.
Also, decent activity levels so far.

4] What is your time zone?

Central

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@Kendall- you have 7 votes, one of which is my RVS vote.

Unvote.

What people are trying to say is you don't have to be so defensive this early in the game. Aggressive is good, but if every sentence is an accusation, you'll find yourself in the Kendall-who-cried-wolf category, and no one will listen to you.

So, ask yourself, has anyone made a reasonable, solid case on you yet?
If they have, refute it.
If they haven't, then it's probably not going to stay.

Vote: RayMontano

@Ray- It's part of the game. Is everything one player said meaningless?

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1] Why did you decide to give mafiascum a try?

I also play on another site, but wanted more, and the wikipedia article links to here.

@Whoever- Who would I not lynch today? Probably SpryeX, HIraki, InHim, diddin. Got town reads on them right now.

@Whoever- Top 3 scum suspects?
RayMontano
Umbrage
Beefster

Gut agreement on the bobsnox and DonJ, but will have to re-read them.

And to help it along

Unvote.
Vote: Umbrage

I'm not going to answer stupid questions like "Who is scum". If I think I've found scum I'm going to push on them but I'm not going to push scum reads that I only half-ass believe in.

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@Ray- You moved to Umbrage after he lost viability. Do you plan to crusade for his lynch?
Thoughts on DonJosh?

Unvote.
Vote:DonJosh

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@SpryeX- lol

@FA- night power, the details of which I'm asking about now.

UNVOTE: DonJosh

VOTE: Umbrage

[PeregrineV]

Well, mafia would not wait. And the quiz came up when I first got on. And Toy Story 3 was my favorite (then 1, then 2).

And I can share what the power is, or leave it a giant ass question mark for the mafia to figure out. I'll let everyone vote on that.

So, if enough people I think are town want to hear what the power is, I'll spill the beans.

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Here's the deal though if we wait until the next mini-game pops up to starting deciding we will be too late. Because someone will start up and grab the power before the group decides. But I also don't think its in our best interest to spend a lot of time arguing about who that person should be. So if we are going to vote on someone then can we just keep a running tally of votes and not argue about it?

Peregine what are you afraid of if the scum know what your power is? If there's a role blocker they'll probably just block you anyway because they know you have something.

Well, right now scum has to worry about what it is. And they can kill me tonight, but I'll get at least one use out of it.
And they can RB me tonight, but that means there not RBing someone else, so I'm OK with that.
They can RB and kill me, but I'm OK with sucking up scum resources for the night.

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@SpryeX- lol

@FA- night power, the details of which I'm asking about now.

UNVOTE: DonJosh

VOTE: Umbrage

I love it when sheep are too scared to try and actually deliver a case on me.

My bad.

Day1 Umbrage case: Umbrage seems scummier than DonJosh, whom I was voting for previously.

Vote: Umbrage

[PeregrineV]

It might be better if people who actually want to win the "toy" announce themselves, that way people who don't want it don't have to be included in the plan.

For example, I won this one so I can win any others.

P-edit: They're voting on who should answer the questions to limit who gets the gift.

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@Glowball- the quizzes will be randomly posted.

For this setup, there will be some mini-games in thread (toys and games and fun!). It will be Toy Story trivia. The first four people to respond to the questions will be in the running for an undisclosed power. Whoever gets the most questions correct will get the power. In the case of a tie, the first person to respond to me will get the power.

They will pop up randomly, but no more than one per game day. There will be three mini-games across the first four game days. I wouldn't expect any of them to pop up between 3am-9am EST though

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EBWOP

It might be better if people who actually want to win the "toy" announce themselves, that way people who don't want it don't have to be included in the plan.

For example, I won this one so I

can't

win any others.

P-edit: They're voting on who should answer the questions to limit who gets the gift.

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@SpryeX- lol

@FA- night power, the details of which I'm asking about now.

UNVOTE: DonJosh

VOTE: Umbrage

I love it when sheep are too scared to try and actually deliver a case on me.

My bad.

Day1 Umbrage case: Umbrage seems scummier than DonJosh, whom I was voting for previously.

Vote: Umbrage

Scared sheep.

Spoiler: Graphic sheep scene, not for children or squeamish

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@Peregrine - Which of me, Spy, diddin, FA, glowball and hiraki are scum?

Nice. Since I don't really know, I would assume you want my reads on the 6 people.

Can do, but not today, and probably not tomorrow(Saturday), so maybe Sunday or Monday.

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Lost the DonJosh feel for a lynch when he was at 9 votes and gave what could be his "final" reads (and did turn into what looks like final posts). As flaking scum, don't feel that he would have bothered, but maybe the last residuals of guilt made him post as flaking town. My thoughts anyway.

@FA- I'll do that one when I do my RainbowDash list.

@Glowball- you know, the mere fact that you so strongly believe it means your probably wrong. Just saying.

@Umbrage- Crap like this isn't something town would say.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p3318117

Esp. as you got 2-5 votes on you. So instead of crap like that, whose scum and why? Not good lynches for the day (I really hate that statement), but who is scum and who should everyone vote for?

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Unvote.

@Umbrage- You may be right about Rainbow, but screaming loldumbasstownmislynchers!" doesn't help us either.

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@chk- I don't know. Bobsnox was one of my original three, and while the other two have done stuff to correct that opinion, bobsox not so much.

Vote: Bobsnox

Silver looks scummy merely for lurking, but the posts them selves seem townie or null.

I see Umbrage's point on Rainbow, but if that's the case Rainbow can provide more connections before his lynch, as he is pretty active. That's assuming he's even scum.

Will have to go back and re-read with replacements.......

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Unvote.
Vote: Umbrage

[PeregrineV]

Loving the double vig kills.

Curious as to the source of this sentence.

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Loving the double vig kills.

Curious as to the source of this sentence.

@FA- Individual results may vary. Clarification on this sentence would help super-immensely.

@Rainbow, see quoted statement, my question, and note to FA above.

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@Rainbow, diddin- It obviously has to do with my results claim. Or do you just want information with no thought to what it means, and I just rely on you to figure it all out for me?

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As for this new issue good lord spit it out and lets go from there. "Two vig shots" means "These choices in players don't make sense from an anti-town perspective in killing active and/or town appearing players." PV's all but hammering "I took a vig shot".

No, but it makes a difference in saying "there should have been three kills but there was only two, and no mafia kill", and "looks like two vig kills".

Anyway, screw it. Claim in next post o make it easy to find in ISO.

[PeregrineV]

Night 1, used 1-shot doc prize to protect FourseenCircumstance, primarily for this post:

Umbrage is not the watcher.

So, if the two kills last night were all "vig", then FourseenCircumstance is confirmed town.

However, since Raindow can apparently say one thing which means something else, his "all vig" statement means nothing and confirms nobody.

[PeregrineV]

Good enough Nanook case for now pending re-read.

Vote: Nanook

@Jak- you win the prize for scummy posting on page 47, and are winning on page 48.

@BlondeDr- I would throw in a ISO of flipped scum, to get a glimpse of interactions, etc. on first read. And all "almost" lynches.

[PeregrineV]

I find it hard to believe scum Fourseen killed their godfather day1 with his BoBeep counterclaim. But anything is possible.

However, lying and getting name counterclaimed is ironic, considering yesterday.

As to flavor,

Woody could be a Jailkeeper (sheriff puts people in Jail)
a vig (Sheriffs have guns)
a cop (Sheriffs are law enforcement)
a RB (Sheriffs "stop" crime or even perceived crime)
a watcher (Sheriffs watch for criminal activity)
a tracker (Sheriffs watch for criminal activity)
a doc (Sheriffs "protect" the public)
etc.

One-shot is designed for game balance, so making any of them one-shot doesn't mean anything.

So flavor arguments are weak.

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Vote: Jakalope

Didn't like the posting yesterday, and today's been even worse.

@Nanook- You've been outed as a neighbor. Since you know that everyone feels one of you three is scum, I'd like to here your thoughts on who it is and why. And how you feel about being the target of your "neighbors" last night.

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Vote: Jakalope

Didn't like the posting yesterday, and today's been even worse.

@Nanook- You've been outed as a neighbor. Since you know that everyone feels one of you three is scum, I'd like to here your thoughts on who it is and why. And how you feel about being the target of your "neighbors" last night.

EBWOP:

VOTE: Jakalope

[PeregrineV]

Oh fuck. On one hand, there's probably scum in the Alien group, on the other hand, they're all townreads. But Nanook is the weakest townread of the three, so

Unvote, Vote: Nanook

Why not Jakalope?

[PeregrineV]

Oh fuck. On one hand, there's probably scum in the Alien group, on the other hand, they're all townreads. But Nanook is the weakest townread of the three, so

Unvote, Vote: Nanook

Why not Jakalope?

Because I'm town.

Also, I don't know why I didn't feel comfortable putting a vote on Nanook yesterday, but I did feel comfortable today.

Hmm.. I'm not sure how good I feel about it now that he is supposedly in this Neighborhood with Rainbow.

@Rainbow, I don't want you to reveal who the 3rd alien is, but do you have a strong town read on them? If not, what is your read?

bobsnox is town.

Hmmmm.

Also, 3rd alien has revealed themselves already.

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@Blonde- http://mafiascum.net/forum/ucp.php?i=pr ... ode=avatar

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2.)

diddin, why are you forcing yourself to choose between voting three people you claim to have a townread on in Post 1665?

Let's just say that, knowing my role, it's not likely that all the neighbors are town. I'm 90% sure there's at least one scum amongst them.

Right now, I'm getting town vibes from all three. What would be your scumminess likliness order and why for the three neighbors?

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At the Neighborhood: can you guys talk about how you each reacted to having the shared kill? Who brought up how to decide on kills? Etc.

Nanook didn't say anything. I don't remember rainbow's reaction when she came in without reading back through the QT. I laughed my ass off and said cool.

My idea was to have everyone discuss their views on all the players and have everyone agree to one player to vig. This way if there was scum in the neighborhood if the vig hit someone not discussed I would be more certain (instead of paranoid) there was scum in the neighborhood.
As for whom to kill it was mostly me and Rainbow discussing our scum reads. I had certain players, she had certain players and we talked back and forth a bit on why. All Ntw did was list 3 players day 1 without a reason then he conceeded to both Rainbow and myself choosing Borge night 1 without really fighting or saying anything during the discussion (this is why I started to lean scum on NtW).
After my case and points on NtW he stopped talking in the QT (I think since that case he said 3 things in the QT at the most).

@Nanook- Is this true? Did it happen the way Farside said?

If you look at the advantages of a QT to town, you get to say all kinds of things that might mark you as scummy to 20+ people, but one other person may understand what you mean.
Whereas for scum, there is no advantage. Sure, you might paint yourself as town in your neighbors eyes, but if they are town you know that can change in an instant, as town are paranoid of EVERYONE until the mod confirms them. So, as scum in a town QT, you kind of want to stay quiet and avoid giving the town players extra ammo to use against you in thread. Like you seem to have done.
So, I will give you time to respond to Farside and this, but now I'm leaning on you to be the scum member of that group.

@Farside- How sure are you on Rainbow being town?

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@mod- did mikehart respond to his prod?

He picked it up but obviously no response. I have sent another PM.

Not sure I buy the hider thing, but if we have to wait we have to wait.

@Nanook- Please respond to my questions about the QT actions and analysis claimed by Farside.

Unvote.
Vote: Oversoul

Hasn't managed a vote since replacing in. And maybe other reasons.

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farside22 wrote:
At the Neighborhood: can you guys talk about how you each reacted to having the shared kill? Who brought up how to decide on kills? Etc.

Nanook didn't say anything. I don't remember rainbow's reaction when she came in without reading back through the QT. I laughed my ass off and said cool.

My idea was to have everyone discuss their views on all the players and have everyone agree to one player to vig. This way if there was scum in the neighborhood if the vig hit someone not discussed I would be more certain (instead of paranoid) there was scum in the neighborhood.
As for whom to kill it was mostly me and Rainbow discussing our scum reads. I had certain players, she had certain players and we talked back and forth a bit on why. All Ntw did was list 3 players day 1 without a reason then he conceeded to both Rainbow and myself choosing Borge night 1 without really fighting or saying anything during the discussion (this is why I started to lean scum on NtW).
After my case and points on NtW he stopped talking in the QT (I think since that case he said 3 things in the QT at the most).

@Nanook- Is this true? Did it happen the way Farside said?

@ Pergrine - Yes, that's basically what did happen. It was Night 1, I didn't have a lot of reads yet, I hadn't read most of the thread at that point either. I felt completely overwhelmed, and Farside reminds me entirely too much of Meme and just doesn't let up. I never even thought that one of our members could be scum and was somewhat baffled by the idea of a neighborhood. I too just thought that we were a masonry with vigilante abilities.

If you thought it was a masonry, then you felt the whole group was town? If so, why would that result in less activity? If you're with confirmed town, you can discuss more crazy ideas.

If you look at the advantages of a QT to town, you get to say all kinds of things that might mark you as scummy to 20+ people, but one other person may understand what you mean.
Whereas for scum, there is no advantage. Sure, you might paint yourself as town in your neighbors eyes, but if they are town you know that can change in an instant, as town are paranoid of EVERYONE until the mod confirms them. So, as scum in a town QT, you kind of want to stay quiet and avoid giving the town players extra ammo to use against you in thread. Like you seem to have done.

I don't know who Meme is, so not sure how that is relevant. If Farside was pestering you for thoughts and you thought you were all town, why not just say so? Why not admit you hadn't read that far? Why not ask your masonry for a summary and gone from there?

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Can everyone not voting Oversoul please at least vote for someone? Just vote the scummiest person.

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I want a Ray or Petroleum lynch today. Especially with the wanting to direct Hider movement.

Part of my problem with your play is that you replaced in mid-day2 with post 1386, and have yet to place a single vote in 550 posts (22 pages).

What would be the town motivation for never voting?

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Heading to work meeting right now. Will have more later today (night).

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@Oversoul- See, voting wasn't so hard, was it?

Since I'm addressing multiple others, I'llmake this generically. Rainbow, thank you for finally posting something normal. I agree with the Bob thing, but his day1 stuff was ultra-scummy, and he hasn't fully redeemed himself in my eyes for that. And I don't think he's trying real hard to do so. Which pisses me off if he is really town.

Anyways, I feel similar to PetroJ about FA. Plus, he apparently responded to the prod via Mod, but hasn't posted in here when prodded (like Over and InHim did). While not evidence in and of iteself of scum, it's adds to the suspicion.
If everyone that wants too can go back through FA's claims, posts, etc. and independently verify his actual actions, I'd like to compare everyone's notes. Otherwise, he seems to be claiming whatever works for him, and that looks too much like scrambling scum.

I will do a complete player list as I think it will help organize my thoughts and maybe spur thoughts from others.

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2.)

diddin, why are you forcing yourself to choose between voting three people you claim to have a townread on in Post 1665?

Let's just say that, knowing my role, it's not likely that all the neighbors are town. I'm 90% sure there's at least one scum amongst them.

Also, fyi, with new information I'm now PRETTY SURE there has to be a scum in the vig neighborhood.

We'll see how the rest shakes out.

So who is it? Without trying out wagons, give reasons why each vig-neighbor would be scum.

Oh yeah.

Please.

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Hey, PeregrineV, claim your role.

Big Baby (Townie)



Diddin next.

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SpyreX then.

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This is some messed up popcorn....

[PeregrineV]

Farside: I've been busy. (Started school)

I docced Murph.

Just now saw this. Can you give your explanation/reason behind your selection?

[PeregrineV]

Farside: I've been busy. (Started school)

I docced Murph.

Just now saw this. Can you give your explanation/reason behind your selection?

Does it matter?

Sure it does. Why not protect a vig neighbor, for example?

And how is the "town JOAT" not being killed, yet VTs are dropping like flies?

[PeregrineV]

Vote: Kunkster

I'm not going to leave this to the vig team that may or may not have scum on it.

And if the mod kills the spot instead of replacing, then so much the better.

[PeregrineV]

24 players, 6-8 mafia, 1 flip. Leaves 5-7 left. Out of 14 players, that's 36-50%

Actually taking out kunkster, 4-6 left, out of 13 players, that's 31-46% chance of randomly getting scum.

But until then it's 4:11, 5:10, or 6:9

[PeregrineV]

There's no fucking way there are 8 Mafia in this setup.

Going with what I'd played in before.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3085757

How many are there?

[PeregrineV]

Blonde Doctor - ???

bobsnox - Buzz Lightyear, Bulletproof, oh wait, JOAT

diddin - ???

farside22 - Alien, 3-way Vig
Flavour Analysis - Woody, JOAT
RandomActs - Cop with guilty on kunkstar
jmurph3 - Bullseye, Neighborizes Jessie or Woody
Juls - Vanilla Townie with Vengeful power
kunkstar7 - Ken, VT
NanookTheWolf - Alien, 3-way vig
PeregrineV - Big Baby Townie
petroleumjelly - Slinky Dog, VT

Ray Montano - ???

Rainbowdash - Alien, 3-way vig

SpyreX ???

Pere gets lynched tomorrow. I have a feeling Juls won't comply to vengekilling Pere if we lynch her first.

Yeah, I'm good with a diddin lynch tomorrow. Been leading all game, speculates on the 3-man vig team, but not on the size of the scum team, but knows we only have one, requires claims from everyone else, but can't claim himself.

I'm thinking Peregrine. Big Baby as VT......yeah I'm mod gaming.

I know, I did the same when I got my role.

As an out there question, if we know Kunkster is scum, and people think one vig may be scum, and the vig process works secretly, why are we leaving him to the vig group again?

@Rhinox- Welcome!

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@jmurph- All the claims are done. Did you notice anything?

[PeregrineV]

Blonde Doctor - ???

bobsnox - Buzz Lightyear, Bulletproof, oh wait, JOAT

diddin - ???

farside22 - Alien, 3-way Vig
Flavour Analysis - Woody, JOAT
RandomActs - Cop with guilty on kunkstar
jmurph3 - Bullseye, Neighborizes Jessie or Woody
Juls - Vanilla Townie with Vengeful power
kunkstar7 - Ken, VT
NanookTheWolf - Alien, 3-way vig
PeregrineV - Big Baby Townie
petroleumjelly - Slinky Dog, VT

Ray Montano - ???

Rainbowdash - Alien, 3-way vig

SpyreX ???

Claims Updated:
Blonde Doctor - Bonnie, town
bobsnox - Buzz Lightyear, Bulletproof, oh wait, JOAT
diddin - A potatohead, mason
farside22 - Alien, 3-way Vig
Flavour Analysis - Woody, JOAT
RandomActs - Cop with guilty on kunkstar
jmurph3 - Bullseye, Neighborizes Jessie or Woody
Juls - Vanilla Townie with Vengeful power
kunkstar7 - Ken, VT
NanookTheWolf - Alien, 3-way vig
PeregrineV - Big Baby Townie
petroleumjelly - Slinky Dog, VT
Rhinox- Barbie, townie
Rainbowdash - Alien, 3-way vig
SpyreX -A potatohead, mason

Dead folk:

Umbrage, Stinky Pete (Mafia Godfather) lynched Day 1

Bogre, Andy (Town Jailkeeper) killed Night 1
SodaSpirit17, Hamm (Townie) killed Night 1
FourseenCircumstance, Spider Baby (Town Miller) lynched Day 2
glowball, Buster (Townie) killed Night 2
DeathNotehiraki, Lenny the Binoculars (Town Watcher) lynched Day 3
Oversoul, Sarge (Townie) killed Night 3
RandomActs, Wheezy (Townie) killed Night 3
TheJakalope, Rex (Town Odd-Night Hider) killed Night 3

@jmurph- Look again. What do you see or not see?

[PeregrineV]

@jmurph- Look again. What do you see or not see?

I see what you see, I think.

If you do, why do you think that is?

[PeregrineV]

It is.

Claims Updated:
Blonde Doctor - Bonnie, town
bobsnox - Buzz Lightyear, Bulletproof, oh wait, JOAT
diddin - A potatohead, mason
farside22 - Alien, 3-way Vig
Flavour Analysis - Woody, JOAT
RandomActs - Jessie, Cop with guilty on kunkstar
jmurph3 - Bullseye, Neighborizes Jessie or Woody
Juls - Mr. Pricklepants, Vanilla Townie with Vengeful power
kunkstar7 - Ken, VT
NanookTheWolf - Alien, 3-way vig
PeregrineV - Big Baby Townie
petroleumjelly - Slinky Dog, VT
Rhinox- Barbie, townie
Rainbowdash - Alien, 3-way vig
SpyreX -A potatohead, mason

Dead folk:
Umbrage, Stinky Pete (Mafia Godfather) lynched Day 1
Bogre, Andy (Town Jailkeeper) killed Night 1
SodaSpirit17, Hamm (Townie) killed Night 1
FourseenCircumstance, Spider Baby (Town Miller) lynched Day 2
glowball, Buster (Townie) killed Night 2
DeathNotehiraki, Lenny the Binoculars (Town Watcher) lynched Day 3
Oversoul, Sarge (Townie) killed Night 3
RandomActs, Wheezy (Townie) killed Night 3
TheJakalope, Rex (Town Odd-Night Hider) killed Night 3

[PeregrineV]

I still think we need to lynch Kunkster. That would give us the truth about his name (if he is really Ken). Then the vigs can blast Bob tonight.

Can someone consolidate the night actions? I have to do some paid work for awhile.

[PeregrineV]

Now its time to look at the claimed setup as a whole:

Mason - diddin (Potatohead)
Mason - SpyreX (Potatohead)
Cop - RandomActs (Jessie)
JOAT (Vig, Jailkeep, Doc) - Flavour Analysis (Woody)

JOAT (BP, Vig, Tracker) -

bobsnox

(Buzz Lightyear)

Watcher - DeathNote (Lenny the Binoculars)

Odd-Night Hider - TheJackalope (Rex)

Jailkeeper - Bogre (Andy)

Jessie/Woody Neighborizer - jmurph (Bullseye)

Miller - ForseenCircumstance (Spider Baby)

VT - SodaSpirit17 (Hamm)

VT - glowball (Buster)

VT - Oversoul (Sarge)

VT - RandomActs (Wheezy)

VT - Juls (Mr. Pricklepants)
VT - kunkstar7 (Ken)
VT - Rhinox (Barbie)
VT - PetroleumJelly (Slinky Dog)
VT - PeregrineV (Big Baby)

Group Survivor Vig - farside22 (Alien 2)

Group Survivor Vig - Rainbowdash (Alien 1)
Group Survivor Vig - NanookTheWolk (Alien 3)

Mafia Godfather - Umbrage (Stinky Pete)

Mafia Echo - Blonde Doctor (Sid Phillips)

Mafia Roleblocker - ???

Mason - diddin (Potatohead)
Mason - SpyreX (Potatohead)
Cop - RandomActs (Jessie)
JOAT (Vig, Jailkeep, Doc) - Flavour Analysis (Woody)

JOAT (BP, Vig, Tracker) -

bobsnox

(Buzz Lightyear)

Watcher - DeathNote (Lenny the Binoculars)

Odd-Night Hider - TheJackalope (Rex)

Jailkeeper - Bogre (Andy)

Jessie/Woody Neighborizer - jmurph (Bullseye)

Miller - ForseenCircumstance (Spider Baby)

VT - SodaSpirit17 (Hamm)

VT - glowball (Buster)

VT - Oversoul (Sarge)

VT - RandomActs (Wheezy)

VT - Juls (Mr. Pricklepants)
VT - Rhinox (Barbie)
VT - PetroleumJelly (Slinky Dog)
VT - PeregrineV (Big Baby)

Group Survivor Vig - farside22 (Alien 2)

Group Survivor Vig - Rainbowdash (Alien 1)
Group Survivor Vig - NanookTheWolk (Alien 3)

Mafia Godfather - Umbrage (Stinky Pete)

Mafia Echo - Blonde Doctor (Sid Phillips)

Mafia Roleblocker - VT - kunkstar7 (Ken)

So I changed the cop claim over to mafia, leaving how many mafia?

And who are your top suspects? Give me three, since I think there's 6 total, but if you want to give me more that'd be good.

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