Payola Mafia - Game Over

BabyJesus · Post Post #25 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:36 pm

I think everyone should will their money to me. tia.

BabyJesus · Post Post #26 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:37 pm

draygn_mage wrote:I'm gonna guess FOS.

FOS BabyJesus
randomly of course

this is not helpful

BabyJesus · Post Post #32 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:23 pm

this is why we need to discuss and "vote" who will be lynched before hand.

BabyJesus · Post Post #53 (isolation #3) » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:35 pm

BabyJesus · Post Post #81 (isolation #4) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:30 pm

I believe Pooky...

all my money is willed to him...

BabyJesus · Post Post #87 (isolation #5) » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:48 am

Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:He's claiming mason(with no possibility for a scummy one), that makes him pretty much confirmed pro-town in my eyes.

I've been burned by that one before....

he is not confirmed as far as I am concerned.

BabyJesus · Post Post #98 (isolation #6) » Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:35 pm

I'm saving my money so I can HAMMAH someone close to deadline. FYI. Do not be alarmed when it happens.

BabyJesus · Post Post #101 (isolation #7) » Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:46 pm

Tamuz wrote:BJ, how many games have you been scum in out of the amount you've played?

I'm not keeping exact numbers.... rough estimate, maybe 15% of them would be closee. It goes in spurts.

BabyJesus · Post Post #103 (isolation #8) » Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:57 pm

Tamuz wrote:Are you in one of those spurts now?

maybe....

BabyJesus · Post Post #105 (isolation #9) » Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:04 pm

Tamuz wrote:That is as close as a confession as we are going to get time to jump aboard.

BabyJesus · Post Post #138 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:03 am

Mr Stoofer wrote:I am going to put some money on CES today. There is something about his posts yesterday I didn't like, but I don't want to start the deadline ticking just yet.

Also,
FOS: BabyJesus
for not being his usual lynch happy-self. He did say this yesterday:
BabyJesus wrote:I'm saving my money so I can HAMMAH someone close to deadline. FYI. Do not be alarmed when it happens.
But never placed any money, which is very unlike him and makes me worry.

I was away when the runup went down....not to mention we had people spouting off about guilty investigations, etc...so I probably wouldn't have anyway.

BabyJesus · Post Post #139 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:05 am

Pay 5: Thoth

to get the deadline activated at least.

BabyJesus · Post Post #142 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:26 am

Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Why would you want the deadline activated?

otherwise we'll sit around with our thumbs up our butts for several days with everyone being afraid to pay money. Lets keep this active.

BabyJesus · Post Post #184 (isolation #13) » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:56 pm

can we focus on lynching dragyn pls....

BabyJesus · Post Post #185 (isolation #14) » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:57 pm

BabyJesus wrote:can we focus on lynching dragyn pls....

oops, nm. wrong game

BabyJesus · Post Post #188 (isolation #15) » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:32 pm

help im a bug wrote:Fritzler - how does your role work? Did you start the game with a list of all the cops with their sanities? Did you have to investigate Twomz to figure out his sanity?

Something sounds fishy about your claim to me.

sounds to me like you are scum fishing for info

BabyJesus · Post Post #189 (isolation #16) » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:33 pm

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

hi

BabyJesus · Post Post #191 (isolation #17) » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:51 pm

Nightcow wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:
help im a bug wrote:Fritzler - how does your role work? Did you start the game with a list of all the cops with their sanities? Did you have to investigate Twomz to figure out his sanity?
Something sounds fishy about your claim to me.
sounds to me like you are scum fishing for info
Sounds to me as though you are in the wrong game again ¬_¬

I think we need to pay to lynch CES today.

ok, Mr. Moneybags.

Do we have a pay count?

BabyJesus · Post Post #207 (isolation #18) » Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:14 am

Fritzler wrote:pooky, sounds like a good idea to me.

Pay 200: help im a bug

lol...

BabyJesus · Post Post #208 (isolation #19) » Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:15 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:how about everybody other than me and nightcow start burning their money?

what if you are scum....

BabyJesus · Post Post #216 (isolation #20) » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:37 pm

I think we should give Mr. Stoofer the choice of either
a) putting all his cash on CES
or
b) being the consensus lynch.

Lets get these scummy people to put their cash on each other, or die.

BabyJesus · Post Post #220 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:59 pm

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Let's kill BJ

I think I spotted a scumtell off him.

Now I'm going to act all obscure and not tell him what it is so that he can't possibly defend himself.

Yup.

Let's lynch BJ.

hi

BabyJesus · Post Post #252 (isolation #22) » Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:52 pm

interesting....

may as well just let stoofy die now...

BabyJesus · Post Post #255 (isolation #23) » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:23 pm

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think BJ should be using his cash to save Stooferdoc now.

nah

BabyJesus · Post Post #257 (isolation #24) » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:42 pm

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ur not exactly confirmed.

You should be using ur cash.

8)

pay 5: Pooky

BabyJesus · Post Post #262 (isolation #25) » Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:04 pm

Fritzler wrote:He got an innocent result on him from draygn mage.

if I knew WTF a "jack of all trades" was, maybe I'd know if I cared about his view of pooky.

BabyJesus · Post Post #267 (isolation #26) » Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:38 pm

the silent speaker wrote:
I think BJ should be using his cash to save Stooferdoc now.
I think I'll put my money where Pooky's mouth is.
Pay 10: Thoth.
I believe that's a lead change.

why only 10?

BabyJesus · Post Post #285 (isolation #27) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:17 am

We're gonna have to lynch the silent speaker tomorrow, fyi.

BabyJesus · Post Post #291 (isolation #28) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:44 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
Seriously BJ, you are acting very anti-townlike if you do not start spending that cash.

yep. Pretty cool, huh? Bet I survive the night.

BabyJesus · Post Post #295 (isolation #29) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:04 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Bet you don't survive tommorrow.

have you spotted my scum tell....

BabyJesus · Post Post #296 (isolation #30) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:05 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Seriously, it's not a very good strategy to act suspicious so that the scum don't nightkill you, because this town will not hesitate to lynch you.

maybe I have info that will save me from a lynch tomorrow....

BabyJesus · Post Post #302 (isolation #31) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:44 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Every1 knows BJ will make up crap to save his own behind, whether he's town or scum.

BJ having info that's possibly useful or would prevent a normal player from being lynched doesn't mean squat.

He has a long track record of lying as scum and lying as town. If there's one thing you can count on BJ to do, it's lie through his teeth regardless of what side he's on.

I wouldn't trust any words coming out of that mouth.

Lying? me? Surely you jes. I am a paragon of virtue.

BabyJesus · Post Post #303 (isolation #32) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:46 am

Fritzler wrote:Does that info come from a parrot?

95% sure it does. At this point not sure if its a real parrot, or a mechanical one like in "Clash of the Titans".

BabyJesus · Post Post #305 (isolation #33) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:21 pm

inHimshallibe wrote:BabyJ, do us all a favor and spend a little on Thoth. TIA.

I did..

BabyJesus · Post Post #310 (isolation #34) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:41 pm

pay 65: thoth

Mod edit: This is a lead change.

BabyJesus · Post Post #317 (isolation #35) » Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:32 am

Thoth is in the lead, but we should have 12 hours to go till deadline....

BabyJesus · Post Post #329 (isolation #36) » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:38 pm

help im a bug wrote:I just don't trust a bandwagon on Thoth spearheaded by someone whose sig says "THOTH MUST DIE."

"it happened"

BabyJesus · Post Post #330 (isolation #37) » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:39 pm

Pretty clear we need TSS to pay 100 for thoth.

BabyJesus · Post Post #333 (isolation #38) » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:11 am

Thoth wrote:
help im a bug wrote:I just don't trust a bandwagon on Thoth spearheaded by someone whose sig says "THOTH MUST DIE."
Didn't know that (got sigs turned of), but I assume it's BJ. Don't know where the hate is coming from, but it looks like he succeeded this time. Even helping his side this time if he's scum.

I'm hardly the main guy pushing your bandwagon, and HIMB is an idiot for suggesting so. I only paid real money on you when it ws either you or a claimed doc.

BabyJesus · Post Post #336 (isolation #39) » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:17 am

Twomz wrote:For the record (or thoth... whatever) here is BJ's sig.

THOTH MUST DIE
ChanglingBob is a masonlyncher
The suck: armlx, Astronaut, Cogito Ergo Sum, Fritzler, Fuldu, HezLucky, inHimshallibe, Iammars, Kerplunk, N_lich, PookyTheMagicalBear, Quailman, rolandofthewhite, the silent speaker, TSAGod, Yaw

[/quote]

H=Yea, I need to update that, some people can get pulled off it....

I'm pretty sure Thoth is on the list for vigging an undisputed mason...

BabyJesus · Post Post #339 (isolation #40) » Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:08 am

Twomz wrote:
inHimshallibe wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:
Twomz wrote:For the record (or thoth... whatever) here is BJ's sig.

Bj's Sig wrote: THOTH MUST DIE
ChanglingBob is a masonlyncher
The suck: armlx, Astronaut, Cogito Ergo Sum, Fritzler, Fuldu, HezLucky, inHimshallibe, Iammars, Kerplunk, N_lich, PookyTheMagicalBear, Quailman, rolandofthewhite, the silent speaker, TSAGod, Yaw
H=Yea, I need to update that, some people can get pulled off it....

I'm pretty sure Thoth is on the list for vigging an undisputed mason...
All will meet their fates at the hands of the Prophet of Regret.
You mean the Halo 2 Prophet of Regret? The one you have to jump on and melee to death?

DO NOT MAKE ME USE MY GRENADE Let's all stay calm people, we can work something out.

BabyJesus · Post Post #363 (isolation #41) » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:56 am

I'm 95% sure we have a backup doc

BabyJesus · Post Post #366 (isolation #42) » Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:31 am

logicticus wrote:I agree that way too often a free pass is given when someone claims doctor when they are about to be strung up.

This is really only a problem if there is only one really good scum candidate, since this isnt the case, I think its fine to continue on track and lynch Stoofer tomorrow should he be alive.

I think blanket statements such as "we will lynch Stoofer if he is alive tomorrow" are stupid.

BabyJesus · Post Post #380 (isolation #43) » Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:32 am

so they didn't kill the outed doc....

pay 5: logicticus

to get things rolling

BabyJesus · Post Post #382 (isolation #44) » Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:55 am

Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:so they didn't kill their scumbuddy....

pay 50: Mr. Stoofer

how do you know they don't simply want us to kill him for them???

although I agree I would think if he were telling the truth 9 times out of 10 scum kill the doc at night anyway...

BabyJesus · Post Post #387 (isolation #45) » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:15 am

inHimshallibe wrote:BabyJ is seeming a little scummy. I'll probably end up paying for him to be lynched.

X

BabyJesus · Post Post #388 (isolation #46) » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:16 am

Fritzler wrote:GGs:
Fritz
Nightcow
Twomz
Pooky
BabyJesus

BGs:
Cogito Ergo Sum
inHimshallibe
logicticus
Mr Stoofer
Nightcow
the silent speaker
VisMaior

fixed

BabyJesus · Post Post #390 (isolation #47) » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:31 am

I think a Logiticus lynch would be beneficial

BabyJesus · Post Post #410 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:08 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:and it being not lynch-or-lose means we can afford to look elsewhere.

Remember, the scum have to keep our doctor alive if Stoofer is actually scum because if the doctor dies then Stooferscum is screwed!

There's no need to get stoofer now, we can get him later if a doc shows up dead.

this is quality post here. I agree with Pooky. We should focus on lynching logicticus.

BabyJesus · Post Post #416 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:26 pm

logicticus wrote:Im just wondering if my crime has just been lurking.

also you kill people at night.

:knowsstuff:

BabyJesus · Post Post #424 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:57 pm

logicticus wrote:well, i am not going down without putting all my money on someone else.

however, i will let the town decide where to put that money if i am forced in that position.

Negative ghost rider. The plan is you will money to a confirmed townie.

BabyJesus · Post Post #425 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:58 pm

logicticus wrote:well if hes claiming cop, hes naive or insane thats for sure.

i would love to get more out of you bj

you may as well rolefake now.

BabyJesus · Post Post #431 (isolation #52) » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:38 am

logicticus wrote:While I want the town to win as much as everyone else, I would like to be part of the plan. And just my money eventually being part of that plan just isnt good enough.

seriously, are you going to rolefake, or can we commence with the logiticus lynch?

BabyJesus · Post Post #433 (isolation #53) » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:36 am

inHimshallibe wrote:I paid with all my money because I'll be going out of town starting Friday afternoon. It's Spring Break; I'll be in the Gulf area doing relief work for at least a week.

Persian Gulf, or Gulf of Mexico....

BabyJesus · Post Post #434 (isolation #54) » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:38 am

logicticus wrote:role claiming would not make anyone less skeptical of me, so its a waste of time

so you admit to being scum....

BabyJesus · Post Post #444 (isolation #55) » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:47 pm

Fritzler wrote:
logicticus wrote:yeah thats what i said
do you want to claim to be buddies with bj too?

lol

BabyJesus · Post Post #456 (isolation #56) » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:18 am

logicticus wrote:well i am not just gonna die. i dont care how this looks, but I am going to go all in because I would rather win with the town then the town just win, its much more satisfying taht way.

vote 125: vaughn

it sucks this is on a replacement, but i dont buy his claim at all.

It's ok GB, since you were viewed as BG you had nothing to lose!

pay 30: logiticus

Mod edit: This is a lead change.

BabyJesus · Post Post #460 (isolation #57) » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:10 pm

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think we should get TSS/BJ's money down to about normal levels.

wouldn't hurt to ask them to burn on Logic at this point.

fos

I think we need to get your money down, guy.

BabyJesus · Post Post #468 (isolation #58) » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:21 pm

Twomz wrote: To all the townies left... If you get run up tomorrow, instead of waiting for the last minute then throwing your money on someone else... DEFEND YOURSELF, then WILL YOUR MONEY TO A CONFIRMED TOWNIE.... geez.

We said this today, the problem is logitc deliberately ignored it to act in a blatantly anti-town action.

BabyJesus · Post Post #474 (isolation #59) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:56 am

logicticus wrote:like i said, its more exciting to win with the town.

i wanted to win with the town, not just have my money be a part of that victory

BabyJesus · Post Post #483 (isolation #60) » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:04 am

Fritzler wrote:So da 1 priority: reduce TSS and Bj's cash count.

X

Money in my hands is a good thing....

I think we need to have TSS narrow down some of his money. Yea, he was a mason, but if he is a scum mason, we're screwed....At the least he needs to get down to the level of Pooky.

BabyJesus · Post Post #484 (isolation #61) » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:08 am

pay 10: VisMaior

he is scum, so lets git er done.

BabyJesus · Post Post #500 (isolation #62) » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:47 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Also he said something about BJ being confirmed earlier.

That combined with BJ's actions so far lead me to believe that we have BJ/CES as scumbags.

lol...are you joking? Did you miss who started and drove the logiticus bandwagon yesterday?

A I'm 100% sure he was talking about you earlier when he said "BJ and NC are confirmed" If anything, it is further proof I am clean if the scum got mixed up and thought I was confirmed innoccent.

Also, Vis is scum. pls lynch huim. tia!!

BabyJesus · Post Post #502 (isolation #63) » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:58 pm

the silent speaker wrote:@ You know who you are: Why so much, why has no sign of this surfaced, and how negotiable is this?

uh oh....

BabyJesus · Post Post #512 (isolation #64) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:25 am

hmmm...

now I got an offer.....

BabyJesus · Post Post #513 (isolation #65) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:26 am

I'm pretty sure my offer cam from scum though, it was from a "dark figure"

BabyJesus · Post Post #515 (isolation #66) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:41 am

Fritzler wrote:I'm suprised, so the offer went pooky, TSS, BJ? Thats downward cash count w/ nightcow omited.

if the offers were the same....

BabyJesus · Post Post #517 (isolation #67) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:04 am

right now, Nightcow needs to bring his cash down to at least Pooky's level....

BabyJesus · Post Post #520 (isolation #68) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:45 am

Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Why? Nightcow is more confirmed than Pooky. I'd rather have Nightcow richer for now, just in case.

yea, because we NEVER have scum masons, right? Just in case, I don;t like one person getting such a big lead.

BabyJesus · Post Post #521 (isolation #69) » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:45 am

the silent speaker wrote:I received an offer during the day (by way of the mod). It was not an offer to join the Mafia, but it was something I could potentially gain from; however, the offerer was demanding $400 for the thing being offered. I'm hoping to get some information about this offer before making up my mind whether or not to accept, as $400 otherwise willed to a mason is a considerable sum.

what was your offer....

BabyJesus · Post Post #523 (isolation #70) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:24 am

Nightcow wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:yea, because we NEVER have scum masons, right?
Grow up.

pay CES: $20
just to keep things moving and so we don't lurk lynch by mistake.

fos

BabyJesus · Post Post #526 (isolation #71) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:32 am

Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:BJ, as I see it, if there's a scum mason or the possibility for a scum mason, the mod doesn't explicitly state their innocence. On top of that, the set up so far seems quite balanced and a scum mason would completely screw over the town.

I agree it is unlikely, but you must admit someone not cleared by a cop havign that much money is at least SOME cause for concern....

BabyJesus · Post Post #528 (isolation #72) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:59 am

Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Well with Help I'm a bug dead, I'm personally more worried about the possibility of Pooky being a GF.

great, now you put that idea in my head....

BabyJesus · Post Post #531 (isolation #73) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:10 pm

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Pooky GURANTEED his protownness this game.

You can not get more confirmed than thaT!!!!!

are you sure you aren't a friendly werewolf.....

BabyJesus · Post Post #536 (isolation #74) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:09 am

Pay 50: CES

BabyJesus · Post Post #543 (isolation #75) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:02 pm

Vaughn wrote:Also, He Fos'ed Nightcow for putting money on CES, and then he puts money on CES himself.

Confusing to say the very least.

the fos was for stopping the lynch at the very last moment. That makes baby jesus cry. I put money on CES so he could not pull a logiticus and spend all of his own money to change the lead.

And how has my play been detrimental? I seem to remember being a big supporter of lynching scum yesterday. You'd be better off to let me do the heavy lifting here, guy.

BabyJesus · Post Post #546 (isolation #76) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:35 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Which is why we should get
BJ
/TSS to burn their cash.

fixed

BabyJesus · Post Post #551 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:35 am

Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:I'd rather not claim if I can help it. (I have my reasons.)

Let's summarize your suspicions of me(correct me if I've left anything out):
1. I went after the claimed doc.
2. I didn't go after logicticus.

My defense:
1. I don't see being willing to take a stance and being willing to take the spotlight as scummy. I've given reasons, which I feel are valid, and I would not hesitate to stand up for my reasoning again. Doc claims are too often seen as a freebie pass and I see it here too. Outed docs are no longer power roles and I'm not going to be especially afraid of lynching 'em, especially not one that has already survived two nights. And I know this is WIFOM, but have you ever seen a scumbag actively try to lynch a doc in a non-lynch-or-lose situation, because I sure haven't? I don't see how my play benefits the town.
2. I admit that I should have kept my eyes open for other scum and that I failed in that aspect, but can you really say there was a case against logicticus? I never saw any serious suspects besides Stoofer/Vaughn. Is it then not logical for me to go after him?

And now I will re-read and try to catch some scum for the town(besides Vaughn of course).

If you're going to counterclaim Vaughn, I'd suggest doing it now...

BabyJesus · Post Post #554 (isolation #78) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:20 pm

Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Not even taking into account the cash situation, I feel the most scummy players are tss and BJ.

the silent speaker:
1. was a vocal supporter of the Thoth-lynch
2. has called several people suspicious without giving reasons
3. didn't go after logicticus
4. received an "offer" at a convenient time

BJ:

1. no contribution

1. continuously stated his innocence
2. calling people suspicious without giving reasons
3. deflective whenever talk of his riches came up.

I am scummy? are you joking? Did you miss how I alone started and pushed scum logiticus yesterday?

BabyJesus · Post Post #557 (isolation #79) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:23 pm

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:so to prove that ur protown, you and TSS should start burning off the rest of your cash.

I'll get right on that

BabyJesus · Post Post #558 (isolation #80) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:23 pm

Vaughn wrote:So you offered up a partner to be in the clear?

Just because you pushed for logic doesn't clear you in any way.

Why would I push and get a scum partner lynched who had no pressure on him at all. That's just stupid.

BabyJesus · Post Post #560 (isolation #81) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:15 pm

TSS, what was your offer...

BabyJesus · Post Post #564 (isolation #82) » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:54 am

pay 10: tss

BabyJesus · Post Post #565 (isolation #83) » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:55 am

Fritzler wrote:I'll read through later, does anyone else think we should mass claim now?

townie here...

BabyJesus · Post Post #570 (isolation #84) » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:08 pm

Fritzler wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:
Fritzler wrote:I'll read through later, does anyone else think we should mass claim now?
townie here...
Who you want to claim next G?

tss I guess....

although I think Vis is scum...

BabyJesus · Post Post #577 (isolation #85) » Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:21 pm

the silent speaker wrote:
although I think Vis is scum...
Then why was it me you paid for?

Fritz, I'd be more concerned if Vaughn
had
claimed the protection sales, because yesterday he denied knowing anything about them.

Our only possible remaining scum (assuming non-vanilla claims all truthful) are inHim, Vis, and BJ; I'm Nightcow's mason buddy. I think Vis is relatively less scummy than the other two, and inHim somewhat more than BJ, but BJ's fishing at the end of yesterday over the offer made to me bothers me. You're willed to Nightcow, right? If so,
pay 20: BabyJesus
is more helpful than buying out inHim. After that, even if you turn out town, Nightcow and I can just buy out everyone who needs to be bought out one by one.

inHim, you claim next.

My fishing at the end of the day? Are you for real? I got an offer for nighttime protection, how is that fishing?

And how the hell am I scummier then VisMaior? Are you even paying attention? I was a major reason why we lynched out first scum, and if you'll notice also contributed largely to getting scum lynched yesterday.

I'd like to hear what exactly is "scummy" about me....

And I paid on you instead of Zvismaior because you were f'ing worthless yesterday and contributed nothing, and I wanted you to speak up. If you are claiming mason, assuming nightcow backs you up

pay 50: Vismaior

One of him or Vaughn is scum, 100% lock.

BabyJesus · Post Post #578 (isolation #86) » Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:44 pm

so, who is offering the protections for cash, if it is not Vaughn....

Nightcow, did anyone offer you nightkill protetion?

BabyJesus · Post Post #580 (isolation #87) » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:11 pm

Vaughn wrote:Ah, now I understand Fritzler's remark.

I'm not the one offering up protection. I've been sending in Night Choices like my role states.

what are your thoughts on the pm's offering protection....

BabyJesus · Post Post #581 (isolation #88) » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:13 pm

wait a sec, nightcow was a mason with HIMB?

BabyJesus · Post Post #582 (isolation #89) » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:13 pm

help im a bug wrote:
Nightcow wrote:It's very much in the
town's
interest to have a difference.

A financially poor mafia will be unable to fix results, a rich town can. That stands greatly in our favour. We should always put ourselves in a position to outpay the mafia (even if we don't outplay them )

I can prevent Mafia speed payments late on by outbidding them; and generally hoard cash so the town's will, rather than the mafia's, is exercised come lynch time.
I really don't like the sound of this post.

Pay 20: Nightcow
.

BabyJesus · Post Post #584 (isolation #90) » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:41 pm

inHimshallibe wrote:Night Watchman. This might clear up why I was against lynching a claimed doc. I also endorse a VisMaior lynch.

umm, choices? who'd you watch?

BabyJesus · Post Post #586 (isolation #91) » Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:12 am

Nightcow wrote:
BJ @TSS wrote:and if you'll notice I also contributed largely to getting scum lynched yesterday.
By FoSing me when I first payed for CES?.

no. By paying more onto him, so he could not shift the lead the way logiticus did the previous day. Or did you skim over that because you got so excited about the fos...

BabyJesus · Post Post #589 (isolation #92) » Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:51 am

the silent speaker wrote:That was actually one of the things I find suspicious in your behavior, BJ. What was your hurry? Let him shift the lead; it'd have been as good as an admission of guilt under the circumstances, and he could always be paid back into the lynch later.

wow. So me pushing scum logiticus hard, and then paying enough to make certain scum CES wasn't able to deflect his own lynch makes ME scummy?

wow. I gotta say, not much I can say to defend against that.

Right now, I think I wasnt to hear
1) What InHim's choices were, and
2) Why wasn't nightcow offered protection
3) Why did nightcow's supposed mason partner find him scummy enough to pay for him to be lynched.

BabyJesus · Post Post #591 (isolation #93) » Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:28 pm

I believe a Night Watchman watches a players house and sees if anyone visits....

BabyJesus · Post Post #593 (isolation #94) » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:36 am

the silent speaker wrote:
So me pushing scum logiticus hard, and then paying enough to make certain scum CES wasn't able to deflect his own lynch makes ME scummy?
No. You doing something that
looks
like it pushes scum hard, but in fact does absolutely nothing helpful, makes you look scummy.

CES couldn't deflect his own lynch under any circumstances unless we let ourselves be deflected. He was
already the payment leader
-- no thanks to you, who were paying on VisMaior. You, as town, ought to have reasoned:
CES is scum and stands to be lynched. The more money I have, the better off the town is, all else equal.
Either CES will pay to save himself, or he won't. If he does, I will immediately outbid him (unless someone else beats me to the punch, not impossible as he would be virtually admitting guilt by such an action). I will be out my $50, but there won't be any help for it. If he doesn't, my $50 won't be necessary; he's dead without me. So by waiting with my dough, I might end up paying $50 or I might not. What I will
not
end up doing is letting the scum live. By paying right now, I and the town are out the $50 regardless of what CES would have decided, and the scum is not any deader.

Your payment did not clinch anything except getting your name onto the right payola list.
That
is why I find it suspect.

Also, way to tell inHim what to claim. If you are scum and the game doesn't end, I know who I'm paying for tomorrow.

WOW. You're not very good at this, are you? Best you can come up for a reason I am suspicious is "He paid more money to get scum lynched".

lol. You've been absolutely worthless this game, and this is the best you can do now? Why don't you sit back and let those of us who have actually contributed to lynching scum do the heavy lifting...

BabyJesus · Post Post #601 (isolation #95) » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:47 am

VisMaior wrote:
OMGUS pay 75 babyJesus
Heh, I wanted to say that...

So BJ, any reason behind your theory?

holy crap.

this guy is pure scum....

BabyJesus · Post Post #603 (isolation #96) » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:14 am

Fritzler wrote:
Nightcow wrote:@Vis, Fritz - Claim. Now.
Not yet. Not till Vis goes.

Vis - scum

next.

BabyJesus · Post Post #618 (isolation #97) » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:38 am

Fritzler wrote:
VisMaior wrote:Oh, we are in a massclaim? Sorry.

Im cop, either paranoid or insane. I only have guiltys so far.
pooky/fritz/Vaughn/twomz/BabyJesus
This is why I wanted to claim last.

I am a police commissioner

I am a townie w/ info. There are two cops in the game, 1 sane, 1 paranoid. They're both dead, Vis is lying. Kill him please BJ.

I've been saying Vis is scum for a while now....

BabyJesus · Post Post #624 (isolation #98) » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:46 am

inHimshallibe wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:
Fritzler wrote:
VisMaior wrote:Oh, we are in a massclaim? Sorry.

Im cop, either paranoid or insane. I only have guiltys so far.
pooky/fritz/Vaughn/twomz/BabyJesus
This is why I wanted to claim last.

I am a police commissioner

I am a townie w/ info. There are two cops in the game, 1 sane, 1 paranoid. They're both dead, Vis is lying. Kill him please BJ.
I've been saying Vis is scum for a while now....
WHAT IS THE BANANA SAYING?

go make your move in citadels, speedbump.

BabyJesus · Post Post #633 (isolation #99) » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:41 am

pay 50: InHim

BabyJesus · Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:25 pm

Vaughn wrote:Hold up, we're running up inhim because he's claimed watcher? Baby's claimed townie, isn't townie the safer lynch, or is there something about inhim's claim that makes it scummier than babyj's that I can't see?

We don;t go by "safe" lynch this late in game...

why the hell are you still alive?

BabyJesus · Post Post #639 (isolation #101) » Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:52 pm

Nightcow wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:
Vaughn wrote:Hold up, we're running up inhim because he's claimed watcher? Baby's claimed townie, isn't townie the safer lynch, or is there something about inhim's claim that makes it scummier than babyj's that I can't see?
We don;t go by "safe" lynch this late in game...

why the hell are you still alive?
Cos you killed my mate last night?

Who, me? lol...

BabyJesus · Post Post #643 (isolation #102) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:22 pm

inHimshallibe wrote:
Fritzler wrote:
inHimshallibe wrote:The only play for Today would be between BabyJ and I, in my opinion. I believe we have a doctor, and weren't the masons mod-confirmed? Fritz's information could
possibly
have been given to scum, but I also think this is a stretch.

Did we confirm BabyJ in any way?
no, in no way

Pay 50: BabyJ

are you paying on me because you actually think I am scum, or is this a lame-ass attempt to save yourself, similar to what other scum have done...

Please review my payment history if you really think I am scum. tia.

BabyJesus · Post Post #645 (isolation #103) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:14 pm

Vaughn wrote:Well I happen to think BJ is the better play for today...

Fritz is iffy, usually if he's town, he'd already be dead... but he did offer up Vis with a pretty good counterclaim. I'm weary, but i think he's clean.

inhim.. - the problem with his claim is, it isn't provable unless he's dead.

[b[Pay 5: BJ[/b] for the lead change.

Why am I the better play? Please explain.

BabyJesus · Post Post #646 (isolation #104) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:15 pm

Vaughn wrote:Hold up, we're running up inhim because he's claimed watcher? Baby's claimed townie, isn't townie the safer lynch, or is there something about inhim's claim that makes it scummier than babyj's that I can't see?

Yes, scum often fake watcher.

BabyJesus · Post Post #647 (isolation #105) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:15 pm

Pay 100:InHim

BabyJesus · Post Post #649 (isolation #106) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:22 pm

Vaughn wrote:Because you claimed townie, and inhim has claimed watcher.

Well, on the chance that you're not lieing, lynching a townie won't hurt us as much as lynching a watcher.

But i suppose we're in a situation where either of you could be scum.

1) this late in game, we don;t lynch based on who has the "more powerful claim". We try and find scum.
2) InHim's claim is VERY suspect. Completely unprovable, as he has not delivered any scum yet. Convenient that no one he has watched has died.

BabyJesus · Post Post #651 (isolation #107) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:54 pm

Fritzler wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:
Vaughn wrote:Because you claimed townie, and inhim has claimed watcher.

Well, on the chance that you're not lieing, lynching a townie won't hurt us as much as lynching a watcher.

But i suppose we're in a situation where either of you could be scum.
1) this late in game, we don;t lynch based on who has the "more powerful claim". We try and find scum.
2) InHim's claim is VERY suspect. Completely unprovable, as he has not delivered any scum yet. Convenient that no one he has watched has died.
i also find it convenient that vaughn hasn't correctly protected anyone yet

maybe there is not doc, but there is the protection thing from the game mechanics

that would suck

I agree...I would not mind lynching Vaughn today, then lynching InHim if Vaughn is indeed doc. Seems odd that they wouldn't have killed him yet though.

Has anyone gotten the "protection" pm today though? I haven't since that last time.

BabyJesus · Post Post #653 (isolation #108) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:59 pm

or we lynched the scum offering it...

BabyJesus · Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:54 am

Vaughn wrote:I've already stated that I've been protecting Nightcow every night.

As long as Nightcow is alive, we've got this game in the bag.

Lynching me would allow scum to kill off nightcow, and then whoever has the most money (BJ) has full control in the L-o-L situation.

see, from my point of view, that may be a better scenario, since I know I am pro-town, then letting a possible doc-fake go to end game even though scum never killed him...

still, I am on inhim at themoment, as I think his "tracker" is just a poor fake.

BabyJesus · Post Post #657 (isolation #110) » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:06 pm

BabyJesus wrote:or we lynched the scum offering it...

hmm...I guess not, I just got a nightkill offer again....they want 500 this time...

BabyJesus · Post Post #659 (isolation #111) » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:42 pm

Fritzler wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:or we lynched the scum offering it...
hmm...I guess not, I just got a nightkill offer again....they want 500 this time...
o rly?

rly

BabyJesus · Post Post #663 (isolation #112) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:56 am

inHimshallibe wrote:I think the Town should force BabyJ to pay all his money on me, or be lynched instead.

I'm not sure scum like yourself should be telling the town what to do...

Please elaborate on why you think I am scum. tia!

BabyJesus · Post Post #664 (isolation #113) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:59 am

inHimshallibe wrote:I think the Town should force BabyJ to pay all his money on me, or be lynched instead.

I have a better idea, now that I think about it. I will accept the "dark figure's" offer, and pay him 500 to not be night killed.
This does several things.
1) My money disappears, so you know I really was offered this
2) Confirms it was not me offering, and May help narrow down who is makingthose offers. Still undecided if I think it is scum or not though.
3) We should keep an eye out to see if anyone's cash goes up unexplicably.

BabyJesus · Post Post #666 (isolation #114) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:31 am

interesting...so it did not add to anyone's total. yet. So it is either a game mechanic, or it adds in the morning? Or the money just vanishes.

BabyJesus · Post Post #671 (isolation #115) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:24 am

Nightcow, why do you suppose a claimed doc in Vaughn is still alive?

BabyJesus · Post Post #672 (isolation #116) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:33 am

logicticus wrote:Well, I have made the short list of acting scummy, so I am willing to burn my money in which ever way the town sees fit. Although, BJ and NC will take priority since they are confirmed.

So, I am willing to burn about 150 of my dollars where you guys want.

here's an argument for my innocence...

Rereading the posts of the 3 dead scum. Two fo them (CES and Vis) both either paid lots of money on me, or did posts casting suspcicion on me. the other one forgot who was "confirmed" and thought it was me. It is HIGHLY unlikely scum would have accidentally thought a fellow scum was confirmed, since he would have known that was not possible.

Also of note, I didn't see CES or Vis mentioning or suspecting InHim a whole lot.

Third, I pretty much singlehandedly spearheaded the logiticus and Vis lynches.

If after that, you still think I am more likely scum then the "watcher" InHim, I really can't say much, can I?

BabyJesus · Post Post #680 (isolation #117) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:23 am

Nightcow - I would STRONGLY suggest willing your money to either Fritzler or myself, whoever you trust more. (I realize will probably be Fritz, but I know I am town, so I'm throwing that out there)

I spent the 500 on "no night kill"... but if that IS a scum ability, and Vaughn gets the 500 tomorrow and kills you without a will, we're still in trouble even if he spends all his money today.

BabyJesus · Post Post #685 (isolation #118) » Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:13 pm

Vaughn wrote:Hmm, Agreed, it makes sense that mafia might win when they equal the # of townies.

Anyways, I need to pay money on who and how much?

pay all your money, either equally on everyone, or all on InHim....

BabyJesus · Post Post #688 (isolation #119) » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:23 pm

inHimshallibe wrote:. If I had any more money I'd probably put it on Vaughn, just because I'm beginning to become a little paranoid about the protection offer issue.

too bad you copied scum and paid on me then, now isn't it....

BabyJesus · Post Post #691 (isolation #120) » Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:05 am

lovely....

I'm pretty sure at this point Vaughn is the last scum, but if "the plan" calls for a no lynch so we can truly test, I am game.

BabyJesus · Post Post #693 (isolation #121) » Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:57 pm

Vaughn wrote:
Pay: 5 BJ

Heh... just die already scum.

sounds like someone doesn't want it to come down to two...

BabyJesus · Post Post #696 (isolation #122) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:45 am

Vaughn wrote:Okay, the mod did not state that town gets another day if it's down to two (scum + remaining townie), so by forcing the night, we could've doomed ourselves.

I was simply told that I win when scum are all lynched, so I don't know about this plan of yours, Nightcow.

It doesn't sit right with me that BJ wanted to follow your plan without even considering this possiblity.

I'm 99.9% sure that BJ is the scum, because I'm the doc and you're a mason.

Pay: 10 BJ

Your plan may work, but without mod confirmation, I'm not willing to gamble a loss on this game simply because we didn't lynch scum when we had the chance.

keep spinning this, scum. The ONLY thing you have going for you is a "doc" claim which the scum have mysteriously not killed for quite some time now. I on the other hand have pushed quite a few scum to their lynch. I understand though, trying to get me lynched is your only play at this point.

BabyJesus · Post Post #699 (isolation #123) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:59 am

I originally thought CES pushing to lynch the doc as a point in his favor. But read dead scum VisMaior's posts....he took just th opposite tack

VisMaior wrote:Ok, lynchying a claimed doc=badbad thing. Id pay CES now, if that would make any difference.

VisMaior wrote:How blatant can you get? CES, explain please: what do we gain from killing a claimed doc? How can you be so sure he is fake?

VisMaior wrote:There is absolutely no point in lynching a claimed doc. You should know that,. you are experienced. If stoofer turns up innocent, you are a goner, blatantboi.

So with the doc claim, we had one scum pushing to lynch him, and one scum protecting him. Sounds to me like they had their bases covered....

BabyJesus · Post Post #700 (isolation #124) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:04 am

Fritzler wrote:
Payment Count:

95 BJ (20 TSS 75 VisMaior)
50 VisMaior (50 BJ)
10 TSS (10 BJ)

Cash Count:

1903 Nightcow
758 the silent speaker
433 BabyJesus
238 Vaughn
125 inHimshallibe
125 Fritzler
50 VisMaior

We have 72 hours from here, VM's 75 on BJ

Mod Edit: Everything above is correct.

interesting payment snapshot here....

BabyJesus · Post Post #701 (isolation #125) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:12 am

past few kills have been typically the person with the 2nd most money. And nightcow has had a huge lead for a while..... If vaughn really is doc, I cannot fathom why scum would not kill him, then nightcow the following night.

Seems to me like a play to get to an endgame with Vaughn, Nightcow, + 1 other, and Vaughn hoped the 3rd member would be lynched. Which is why he had to force a lynch today....going to night with 3 would have killed hs chances.

BabyJesus · Post Post #703 (isolation #126) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:02 pm

And once again Vaughn goes against the plan by paying alot on me....

Vaughn, any explanation for WHY I would be offered night kill protection if I were scum? And it is PROVEN that I was offered it, as I accepted the offer, and my money disappeared.

Sadly for you, that pretty much confirms me as non-scum.

As for TSS, I he was one of my top suspects at the time. I also had log and VisMaior as top suspects, I can't be right all the time...

BabyJesus · Post Post #704 (isolation #127) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:08 pm

Vaughn wrote: Scum have been on me since Day 1.

And scum have paid alot on me as well. ZVisMaior paid alot on me as he was going down, log did it to you. The difference is, I have been helpful in getting other scum lynched, you have sat back on "I'm a doc" this whole time, hardly ever contributing to getting scum lynched.

Bottom line Vaughn, you knew if we did no lynch today, you'd lose. Period. That's why you didn't wait and immediately paid on me. I was willing to discuss things first. You skated to endgame as a scum claiming doc, which worked only because there IS no doc...only this "mysterious protection"

BabyJesus · Post Post #705 (isolation #128) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:55 pm

anyway, I suppose I will

pay 100: Vaughn

, not that it changes anything, since Vaugh consistently refuses to follow the town at endgame.

BabyJesus · Post Post #707 (isolation #129) » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:18 am

Vaughn wrote: Look, If i were scum, I would've went with the plan, because I could kill off Nightcow in the night, and then outbid you tomorrow, right? I have more money then you and I have nothing to gain at ALL by pushing for your lynch. So WHY am i pushing for your lynch?

Hardly. If you went with the plan, Nightcow would have willed to ME, because the only way he dies is if you are scum, then I would have had the money to outbid you.

You knew "the plan" resulted in you as scum coming down to a 1 vs 1 against someone with more money then you.

BabyJesus · Post Post #709 (isolation #130) » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:23 pm

Up to nightcow now.....

BabyJesus · Post Post #712 (isolation #131) » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:54 pm

Vaughn wrote: If you have any questions Nightcow, now's the time to bring them up.

Tell me your thoughts on who is offering the night kill protection....

BabyJesus · Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:59 pm

Vaughn wrote:I have no idea who's offering the night protection. I'm beginning to think that you have some kind of ability that lets you dump money, BJ.

In that case, you faked the claim that you were offered protection to cause confusion.

Ah, nice try, but other people were offered the protection money...and what possible "Ability" would simply dump money? That's ludicrous.

That's the on thing that proves I'm not the scum...why on earth would I be offered night kill protection?

BabyJesus · Post Post #717 (isolation #133) » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:33 am

Vaughn wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if your scum buddies also had the same ability, which may explain the multiple offers. However, as I recall you are the only one to have accepted the offer.

Although it's true that you receiving such an offer would pretty much confirm your innocence:

With all of that in mind, I think it's highly probable that you faked such a claim, because proving that you got an offer and the results of accepting it lie completely with you.

Perhaps you didn't dump money, but you may have used a night ability that required you to pay in advance.

Nice try, but have we seen ANYTHING that makes it seem like any night ation requires money? I realize you're stuck and have to spin it somehow, but come on. It's pretty obvious I got the offer, as I said, then accepted it as I said to confirm I got it.
Best you can come up with is I had to pre-pay 500 for a night action? And what exactly would that be?

BabyJesus · Post Post #720 (isolation #134) » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:10 am

'it's pretty much all on nightcow here.

pay 25: vaughn

vaughn's obviously going to pay it all on me.

BabyJesus · Post Post #722 (isolation #135) » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:36 pm

Vaughn wrote:
It just doesn't make any sense, from a STRATEGIC standpoint that I would keep you around if I were scum, and I don't know why you can't see that.

Except, obviously, so you could make this claim in endgame.

Vaughn wrote:I've already speculated that the mafia may have special abilities in this game due to the fact that they would never be able to amass great amounts of money. So him using that 500$ for something we don't know is highly probable.

Speculate here. What POSSIBLE explanation other then my acceptance of the night protection here is there for me to lose $500? Maybe an ability to circumvent doc protection? Then I'd have used it, no? Daykill? Someone would have used that long ago to take out nightcow. Fact is, we ALL know night protection is being offered for money, and I have proven that I received such an offer, and accepted it.

And your "point" about mafia not being able to amass money has ZERO bearing on an ability requiring me to drop $500....if anything it a reason FOR the town to have to SPEND money to get protection.

Maybe the reason we don't have a doc is BECAUSE of the money dynamic? I don't know if it's you, or a game mechanic, but if it IS you, then you screwed up offering it.

BabyJesus · Post Post #724 (isolation #136) » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:46 pm

Vaughn wrote:Prevent doc ability... hmmmm you may have used it to kill off Fritzler, fearing I may have protected him.

Why on earth would I not have killed Nightcow then? Now you're just making stuff up.

BabyJesus · Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:13 am

loFL.

Nightcow just lost us the game I think.

BabyJesus · Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:44 am

Nightcow wrote:I've written and rewritten so many posts my head is spinning.

However, I have changed my mind. I believe Vaughn and I think BJ is the baddie. In the chats I had with TSS and what I've felt all along, I have to go with Vaughn. When TSS mentioned the protection racket someone asked Vaughn about it. And his reply was confused rather than denial. I really think he knew nothing about the racket..

As for the protection deal, ever think it might be a GAME MECHANIC?

Anyway, I really don;t have anything else to say. If you look at all the mafia I have helped lynch, and how little Vaughn has helped lynch any mafia, and you come to the conclusion that I am scum, then YOUR pisspoor play deserves to lose. Seriously. I don't know if you have ADD or something.

Seriously, at this point if Nightcow looks at me, with all the scum I have helped lynch, plus the fact it is PROVEN I was offered night kill protection, PLUS the fact that for some mysterious reason scum never bothered to kill the outed doc, there's not much I can say.

Vaughn's reason I am scum? "Look at all the scum he helpd lynched" nice. Oh yea, and his "theory" that I had to prespend 500 cash for some night action that apparently accomplished nothing.

Anyway, all my cash is on the scum...with all the scum I have helped lynch, I'm pretty much claiming a town victory for myself at this point even if Nightcow fucks it up by letting a fake doc that never dies live to end game. Not a big fan of having to lose because the guy with all the money rides the shortbus.

Congrats scum. Nightcow, go ahead and pay the rest of your cash on me so we can end this abortion. I'm already counting it as a win for me, so I really care less what you do at this point.

BabyJesus · Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:47 am

Sig updated to reflect my win.

:thumbup:

BabyJesus · Post Post #731 (isolation #140) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:22 pm

ugh. I cannot believe nightcow was fooled by this. It's so obvious Vaughn is scum it's not even funny. We need a bang head smiley around here.

BabyJesus · Post Post #732 (isolation #141) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:37 pm

Nightcow Yesterday:

Nightcow Today:

Nightcow Tomorrow:

BabyJesus:

Vaughn:

BabyJesus · Post Post #733 (isolation #142) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:45 pm

Pretty odd that our "doc" hasn;t been able to prevent a single night kill, too. Oh, wait, he's been protecting Nightcow the whole time. right.... Wouldn't the mafia then just kill the doc like day 2 so they could kill the guy with tons of money?

Seems so obvious to me. really wish InHim's role of "night watchman" hadn;t seemed like such an easy fake.

BabyJesus · Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:44 am

Vaughn wrote:Nightcow, I have apologized for my early payment. I even discussed with you the reasons behind it.

I'm glad you came to your senses.

So this is your first win? Like EVER? on Mafiascum
?

please, how OBVIOUS is it that this is scum gloating.

BabyJesus · Post Post #737 (isolation #144) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:49 am

Vaughn wrote: Just accept your loss BJ, quit being such a poor sport.

X

Already said I'm claiming a win as town, guy. "it happened"

Just because you and your scum buddies are the "official" winners does not change that.

BabyJesus · Post Post #738 (isolation #145) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:51 am

Vaughn wrote: It's only common sense that I'm the doctor and that this night time protection mechanic was probably employed by scum. Also, we can't prove that you got such an offer

And yet, I said I got that offer for 500, and the 500 disappeared from my cash. It WAS proven I got and accepted that offer, the fact Nightcow would rather let the doc that never dies and never can protect anyone win as scum is no fault of mine.

BabyJesus · Post Post #739 (isolation #146) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:54 am

This is a depiction of BabyJesus washing his hands of this whole mess.

BabyJesus · Post Post #740 (isolation #147) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:55 am

Vaughn wrote:your belittling of Nightcow upsets me. He made it into endgame, so he must have some ability as a player.

He made it to endgame because if you killed him, you would have been exposed as not the doc. Period. No refelction of his ability, as proved by his choice to pay on me here.

BabyJesus · Post Post #742 (isolation #148) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:05 am

Vaughn wrote:Obviously you are the mastermind behind the scum-operation.

CES was on my ass the entire game. You didn't want to waste a nightkill on me because I had no cash. Instead you targetted players with much more money, but avoided Nightcow because you knew I would protect him.

It's true that you pushed for scum, but you also pushed for EVERY scum, which is too coincedental. You offered up your scum buddies to appear as pro-town. I saw through it and I've been advocating your lynch for a few days now.

What makes even more sense, is the fact that you killed Fritzler and not me, even though I had more cash. Why? Because Fritzler was confirmed innocent, and I'm still unconfirmed. Nightcow and TSS never revealed their masonship, so I was forced to protect only Nightcow for so many nights.

Not to mention you advocated the inhim lynch. It was clear that once inhim claimed, that you weren't going to kill me for fear of being caught.

No, seriously, well played though.

Thanks for the props that I played a good game as town pushing for every scum. Seriously. I'll probably bump this once it's official that scum won.

As for the cash angle, it's pure bullshit and you know it. You claimed doc, what, day 2? If I was scum trying to kill off the cash, I would have killed you days ago, and also killed Nightcow days ago.

Oh, and of course CES pushed for your lynch. He was trying to appear town. ALL scum try to appear town. He wanted to look good when YOU came up as scum. I doubt way back then you guys had ANY idea that you would make it to endgame....they figured you as a goner.

BabyJesus · Post Post #743 (isolation #149) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:06 am

Not like it matters. Nightcow paid on me, it's game over, scum win. We're just waiting for the mod to make it official now.

BabyJesus · Post Post #744 (isolation #150) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:09 am

Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Stooferscum is pretty much screwed any way. I'd say the scum pretty much consider him lost anyway..

bump. This post pretty much sums it up.

BabyJesus · Post Post #745 (isolation #151) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:10 am

Seriously. There is NO chance CES goes that balls to the wall to get a real doc lynched. It would make him look WAY too bad,

BabyJesus · Post Post #746 (isolation #152) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:11 am

I need to go find that bang head smiley again.

BabyJesus · Post Post #747 (isolation #153) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:12 am

BabyJesus · Post Post #750 (isolation #154) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:19 am

Vaughn wrote:I'm sure everyone's waiting for it to officially end so they can post some post-game comments

good stuff. I exect Nightcow to end the day as is, and to see the "Scum Wins" appear in the title.
I'm still claiming a town win for myself though.

BabyJesus · Post Post #754 (isolation #155) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:24 am

What a dumbass. Gee, 2 guys left, I'll lynch the one who has helped nail all the scum, rather then the "doc" who never dies. No wonder you never win, you really suck at this.

BabyJesus · Post Post #755 (isolation #156) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:24 am

Still claiming a win btw. Probably going to have put something about NightCow being a dumbass in my sig though.

BabyJesus · Post Post #756 (isolation #157) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:26 am

Nightcow wrote:sorry

nice of you to check in and respond to all the points I was making.

BabyJesus · Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:29 am

draygn_mage wrote:*sigh* interesting to read, but makes me want to avoid any game with BJ in it for the next few months. Perhaps if you didn't behave the way you do, people wouldn't be so inclined to kill you, BJ.

GG NightCow. Learn to trust your gut, it doesn't get swayed by gambits as often as you think.

Yea, blame me for it.

BabyJesus · Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:42 pm

Oh, and I'm not 100% sure, but I think I threw the "95% sure of backup doc" comment out there since I was a townie to try and draw the scum to attack me. So long ago I'm not totally sure though, it WAS two months ago.

BabyJesus · Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:56 pm

VisMaior wrote:And do not get angry on someone who is not buying the obvious, because he is scum. Clearly he will never-ever agree with you

Oh, I wasn't upset at Vaughn