Payola Mafia - Game Over

[SpeedyKQ]

Cash Count:

3927 Nightcow
407 Vaughn
238 Fritzler
50 BabyJesus
0 inHimshallibe

Payment Count:

160 inHimshallibe (BabyJesus 50,100, Nightcow 10)
155 BabyJesus (inHimshallibe 50, Nightcow 105)

[Fritzler]

what im worried about is if vaughn isn't doc he can kill nightcow tonight and use his superious cash to avoid getting lynched

can he burn some money please?

TIA

[Nightcow]

Mod edit: This is a lead change. Also, I'm assuming that one pound equals a dollar because I expect that is what Nightcow meant and I don't feel like looking up exchange rates.

Dang, you noticed. I was hoping to fool you all. Mua ha ha ha etc.


Oh, and by the way, I'm leaning towards BJ.

@Inhim - What have you to say of your actions in the game.?

I'm thinking that Night Watchman is a great not-likely-to-be-counter-claimed ability that doesn't actually need to gain results.


Town

3 slightly weak masons. Still powerful
1 true cop
1 paranoid cop
1 commissioner (who can catch a lie)
1 doc
1 Jack-of-all-trades.
3 townies

OK, so that's a nice bit of power there. The paranoid cop did his bit in securing 1 mis-lynch, the masons came together early.

Do we need a Nightwatchman?

We know the mafia has the "protection money" ability. A specific player with ability or a general mafia ability?

Thoughts?

Inhim the floor is all yours.

[Nightcow]

what im worried about is if vaughn isn't doc he can kill nightcow tonight and use his superious cash to avoid getting lynched

can he burn some money please?

TIA

Yes indeed.

@Vaughn - You will please pay an equal amount (between 75 and 100, I guess) on both Inhim and BJ.

[Fritzler]

what im worried about is if vaughn isn't doc he can kill nightcow tonight and use his superious cash to avoid getting lynched

can he burn some money please?

TIA

Yes indeed.

@Vaughn - You will please pay an equal amount (between 75 and 100, I guess) on both Inhim and BJ.

85 on each by my count

[BabyJesus]

Nightcow - I would STRONGLY suggest willing your money to either Fritzler or myself, whoever you trust more. (I realize will probably be Fritz, but I know I am town, so I'm throwing that out there)

I spent the 500 on "no night kill"... but if that IS a scum ability, and Vaughn gets the 500 tomorrow and kills you without a will, we're still in trouble even if he spends all his money today.

[Nightcow]

Nightcow - I would STRONGLY suggest willing your money to either Fritzler or myself, whoever you trust more.

agreed.

[Nightcow]

One more point.

Vaughn - of you really are the doc, protect me again tonight.

If we wake up tomorrow with me vaughn and 1 of you guys alive. Then no-one should pay any money at all. We will go to no lynch and the mafia would be unable to win.

If Vaughn is nightkilled, I pay on the survivor the next day
If either of you dies, I pay on vaughn
If I die, then you guys (who'll get my will) pay for vaughn.
If no-one dies the game stalemates into "and they all lived happily ever after"



One more, final last point. Where be Inhim?

[Fritzler]

One more point.

Vaughn - of you really are the doc, protect me again tonight.

If we wake up tomorrow with me vaughn and 1 of you guys alive. Then no-one should pay any money at all. We will go to no lynch and the mafia would be unable to win.

If Vaughn is nightkilled, I pay on the survivor the next day
If either of you dies, I pay on vaughn
If I die, then you guys (who'll get my will) pay for vaughn.
If no-one dies the game stalemates into "and they all lived happily ever after"



One more, final last point. Where be Inhim?

ask speedy mafia win condition, don't want to think you have a different condition like in bad idea

[Vaughn]

Hmm, Agreed, it makes sense that mafia might win when they equal the # of townies.

Anyways, I need to pay money on who and how much?

[BabyJesus]

Hmm, Agreed, it makes sense that mafia might win when they equal the # of townies.

Anyways, I need to pay money on who and how much?

pay all your money, either equally on everyone, or all on InHim....

[Fritzler]

Mod, do scum win by surving till the end, or if they have half of all players?

[inHimshallibe]

As for my actions, I've been tailing StooferVaughn because I thought I'd catch the killer, especially once CES died. Also, I used an early role hint (for what it's worth.)

Although, this "protection" offered to BabyJ could either be a set up by BabyJ himself, or I'm thinking we might have a dirty doctor. If I had any more money I'd probably put it on Vaughn, just because I'm beginning to become a little paranoid about the protection offer issue.

[BabyJesus]

. If I had any more money I'd probably put it on Vaughn, just because I'm beginning to become a little paranoid about the protection offer issue.

too bad you copied scum and paid on me then, now isn't it....

[SpeedyKQ]

inHimshallibe is lynched. He was a night watchman.

Interest accrues.

End-of-day Cash Count

5981 Nightcow
611 Vaughn
357 Fritzler
75 BabyJesus

Choices are due 72 hours from this post.

Sorry, but I'm not going to reveal win condtions of other players. If you have any questions about

your own

win condition, ask me in a PM.

[SpeedyKQ]

Another day, another shooting.

Fritzler the Police Commissioner has been shot.

He willed everything to Pooky, who is dead, so his money simply goes away.

Everyone gets another $50.

Cash Count:

6031 Nightcow
661 Vaughn
125 BabyJesus

[BabyJesus]

lovely....

I'm pretty sure at this point Vaughn is the last scum, but if "the plan" calls for a no lynch so we can truly test, I am game.

[Vaughn]

Pay: 5 BJ

Heh... just die already scum.

[BabyJesus]

Pay: 5 BJ

Heh... just die already scum.

sounds like someone doesn't want it to come down to two...

[Nightcow]

Pay: 5 BJ

Heh... just die already scum.

Why? did you not see what I wrote above. I may have got the mafia win condition wrong, but we could have asked or worked it out etc.

If we are paying money to lynch it makes sense that money is more important than vote numbers. I assumed that a 1 on 1 would be won with the guy who has more money, not the usual vote-locked mafia win.

So I think you just screwed up, Vaughn. Either way that payment is a certifiably awful move. If you're town you put us into lynch or lose right up as now there

will

be a lynch today, and if we get the one of you that is town, the mafia off me tonight and win. Capiche. If you are mafia you just lost, I feel.

@BJ feel free to pay up a little on Vaughn.
@Vaughn feel free to pay up a little on BJ.


We need this game to go on for another week, at least. I am on holiday in Cyprus and I only have internet access for a few minutes at a time. Keep paying each other bit by bit, put up your attacks and defences, and I'll drop the hammer when I'm ready.

pay Vaughn: $10

Mod edit: This is a lead change.

[Vaughn]

Okay, the mod did not state that town gets another day if it's down to two (scum + remaining townie), so by forcing the night, we could've doomed ourselves.

I was simply told that I win when scum are all lynched, so I don't know about this plan of yours, Nightcow.

It doesn't sit right with me that BJ wanted to follow your plan without even considering this possiblity.

I'm 99.9% sure that BJ is the scum, because I'm the doc and you're a mason.

Pay: 10 BJ

Your plan may work, but without mod confirmation, I'm not willing to gamble a loss on this game simply because we didn't lynch scum when we had the chance.

Mod edit: This is a lead change.

[BabyJesus]

Okay, the mod did not state that town gets another day if it's down to two (scum + remaining townie), so by forcing the night, we could've doomed ourselves.

I was simply told that I win when scum are all lynched, so I don't know about this plan of yours, Nightcow.

It doesn't sit right with me that BJ wanted to follow your plan without even considering this possiblity.

I'm 99.9% sure that BJ is the scum, because I'm the doc and you're a mason.

Pay: 10 BJ

Your plan may work, but without mod confirmation, I'm not willing to gamble a loss on this game simply because we didn't lynch scum when we had the chance.

keep spinning this, scum. The ONLY thing you have going for you is a "doc" claim which the scum have mysteriously not killed for quite some time now. I on the other hand have pushed quite a few scum to their lynch. I understand though, trying to get me lynched is your only play at this point.

[Vaughn]

BJ, this isn't a regular game, so the mechanics differ. Scum obviously want to kill the townies with the most money, and I felt that saving Nightcow would be the best for the town. A confirmed player with the power to lynch is a powerful asset to the town.

So to get to Nightcow, they would have to go through me, and scum probably didn't want to waste a kill on me, since I barely have any money.

I honestly thought I was dead after Stoofer claimed, but to my surprise, scum decided to keep me around, and probably for this one purpose right now: I can't be confirmed.

[Nightcow]

Thing is Vaughn, with the three of us alive, the town could not lose. That's what my post just before the Inhim lynch was about. If you disagreed with it, you should have said so, instead of ignoring my instruction.
We had plenty of time to determine whther we could or whether we wanted to No Lynch today. now we have no choice. What you did was awfully scummy.

Now I have to choose which one of you is the last goon. And I have no idea. Do I trust a claimed doc, or a claimed vanilla townie?

We have no dead doc, so that is in your favour. We have shadowy offers of protection, which isn't.

Do you not see what an awful position you put us in?

I was working on the assumption that I would be left with Fritz and BJ today, and I'd have to make a judgment call. I opnly thought you'd be alive if you were the last goon, and then you couldn't win anyway.



@BJ - If you get a chance can you take a look at the Stoofer/Vaughn wagon on day 2. I'd like your thoughts on it. Who pushed it what evidence etc? And when CES started his lynch doc stuff. I have CES's constant calls for Vaughn's demise as a good point in Vaughn's favour. Perhaps you could try persuading me otherwise.

@Vasughn - can you please take a look at the Logic/CES/Vis lynches. Who started them, what evidence etc. I have BJ's attacks on them as a plus point in his favour. Perhaps you could try persuading me otherwise.

Also can you both take a look at the minor spat between BJ and TSS. May be important. Did BJ think he could get an easy lynch on the unconfirmed TSS? Was it all hot air

Can you also have a look at how much money the night-killed people had. Was there any pattern to the deaths? second most money? most confirmed player?

These four issues, I feel, will decide the game.

@The townie of you. PLEASE MAKE YOUR ARGUMENTS GOOD. REALLY REALLY GOOD.

I'm leaning towards Vaughn's paymerny this morning as a MAJOR scum tell. (Just so you know which of you has the most work to do!!!!!)

[BabyJesus]

I originally thought CES pushing to lynch the doc as a point in his favor. But read dead scum VisMaior's posts....he took just th opposite tack

Ok, lynchying a claimed doc=badbad thing. Id pay CES now, if that would make any difference.

How blatant can you get? CES, explain please: what do we gain from killing a claimed doc? How can you be so sure he is fake?

There is absolutely no point in lynching a claimed doc. You should know that,. you are experienced. If stoofer turns up innocent, you are a goner, blatantboi.

So with the doc claim, we had one scum pushing to lynch him, and one scum protecting him. Sounds to me like they had their bases covered....