Open 316 - Hard Boiled (Day Two)

[andrew94]

/confirm

@muffin im town

[andrew94]

Mild town read on neil from his opening post - displays a lack of understanding that would be ignorant and reckless to post as scum. If he were scum who feared a massclaim plan, I'd expect a more calculated or rhetoric-based response to quell the idea, as opposed to nonsense.

Muffinman's post of laying down a massclaim plan, and investing effort in brainstorming the net value of such a plan indicates an eagerness to corner scum - an inherently town motivated action. If he were scum, he'd have had to have thought about the true consequences much longer, found a loophole or theory that gives scum decent chances of winning, and pass it off as a town-looking plan OR be game enough to make a big bluff and push scum into a suboptimal plan (for them) and try and ride off town points for being pro-plan. I think neither of those situations are as likely as Muffinman being town.

Mildly suspicious of swankidelic for his early attempts to shut down a massclaim idea. Could just be town not prepared/capable of understanding the benefits of a plan, or scum understanding the benefits and wanting out. Post 38 reads slightly artificially, in particular the language shaping the vote for Quilford.

Amrun's reluctance is understandable, given the knowledge she has of some of my scumplay. Luckily there are no numbers in this game!

~ Early days, I know, but this is how I'm seeing things so far.

i agree with what you said above apart from neil's townliness. the way i see it, neil's post 2 is making a point that everyone knows about and has to say that because what else could he say to your massclaim idea? neil's opening post wasnt about massclaim and i can see anyone making his post number 1

[andrew94]

okay i understand that plan.
/agree

[andrew94]

i dont like glowball

[andrew94]

I never said it should be stalled, but I am asking for a summary not of the game but of a plan I wasn't around for during it's conception. ONE THING- the plan.

We are on the same team

and if you don't want to help me understand what you guys have had days to talk about then don't.

For the record, I am reading but if you guys are trying to hear my thoughts and speed up the process then you should help. If not then you can wait while I read and work on my other games as well and I will get to this when I feel like it. Does that work better for you? Probably not, but those are the only choices short of lynching me for not wanting to read.

Also, the only reason I even ask and refuse to read is because I am against this plan. I am giving you guys the chance to pitch this to me because as it stands I will not be participating.

We are on the same team

unvote vote glowball

[andrew94]

This thread needs more andrew.

I just re-read glowball and I'm p sure she isn't scum, despite the issues I noted.

Unvote; Vote: LittleGrey

Oh, how I hope LittleGrey is in the lynch pool.

sis im waiting for everyone to agree

[andrew94]

physics test 2morrow. v/la 1 -2 days

[andrew94]

muffin explain 399 please

[andrew94]

alright now we can wait for pacman and start

[andrew94]

i did my modding thing then had to go.
nice try though.

NOT PR.

[andrew94]

can we have a deadline extension due to all the replacements

[andrew94]

yea.

[andrew94]

theres only 2 pr claims and 2 ppl that havent claimed yet.
they are getting replaced now.
why are you tunneling muffin

[andrew94]

so 3 in lynch pool, 6 in vig ? or what

[andrew94]

We're separating it 3 to the vig pool and 6 to the lynch pool, right? Does the vig make the choice of which one to hide in? I was under the impression that the vig would hide in the lynch pool but if all the scum hide in there with him/er then it's still VERY easy for them to hit. The vig choosing which one to hide in ameliorates that issue a bit. Maybe this has already been brought up. I skimmed a lot of the semantics.

wth is this then

[andrew94]

hey guys so i got to go to this place in the united states
so i need some replacement

LOL JOKES
just waiting for claims,,

[andrew94]

didnt only zMuffinMan
Oversoul
claim pr?
and with the other guy claiming pr, its 3 isnt it?

[andrew94]

wait where did you claim pr?

[andrew94]

something tells me silver is lying

[andrew94]

but swan didnt claim>?

[andrew94]

i dont like how glowball's scum reads are just full of people she doesnt like

[andrew94]

now that everyone has claimed, 2 or 3 ppl in lynch pool?

[andrew94]

i think silver and chkflip is scum

[andrew94]

i volunteer.
i guess hoopla looks pro town

unvote vote andrew

[andrew94]

betting no1 will volunteer

[andrew94]

volunteer?

[andrew94]

HE CLAIMED PR

[andrew94]

do you want me to vote coventry?

vig neil or chkflip or quilford tonight,.

[andrew94]

the first part or the second part of my last post?

[andrew94]

Who's the vig, andrew?

no counterclaim doesnt mean neil isnt the vig. he might not be.

[andrew94]

unvote vote darkflashlight

i also have a town read on hoopla, my gut says its you, chkflip and someone else

[andrew94]

unvote vote conventry

[andrew94]

^ so ur last statement suggests that you know that hoopla and i are townies.

[andrew94]

autowin

[andrew94]

cool.
i like the feeling of people having town reads on me

[andrew94]

your reads are wrong

[andrew94]

^like you

[andrew94]

^wut?