Mini 255 - RajÔÇÖs Freaktown I (The Beginning)- GAMEOVER

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/in to replace

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HELLOOOOOO!

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Okay, on first read-through, here's what I have to say:

If ROTN's role is Roland, probability that he is scum is very high.

Soon I will decide who to vote for and when I do, it's gonna be good, because I know everything.


P.S. Don't you like Cameron Crowe movies? Like this one:


P.P.S. I have a posting restriction, if anyone wants to know.

MOD EDIT: i fixed your picture

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almost hit the 48-hour mark! sorry, guys, somehow this thread fell off my watched list!

LyingBrian, are you a ditz? (Please say yes. I mean this in the nicest possible way).

I still maintain that RotN is most likely scum if his role is Roland.

This is evidence (not really):

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Yes you did.

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Post26

and roland has everything to do with this game.

Ranger: Roland has everything to do with this game! How could the Roland role just be a townie? I would think he would have some sort of power if he were pro-town.

I don't really care about the third vote argument some people are making. I mainly think Ranger is scum because he is Roland.

I would like to hear from LyingBrian before I vote.

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Eh, maybe.

Logicticus, I am wondering why you didn't originally want to reveal your post restriction. I don't see why revealing that you have to misspell five words per post would be any advantage for the mafia.

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LB -- It may be good for you to claim. It seems between you and RotN, and he has already claimed. I think what looks scummy to people is how many times you have changed your vote and also the lurking (even if it is unintentional).

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LB: I didn't mean to offend you about the ditz comment. I asked it for a specific purpose. And if you don't feel the need to claim, that's fine with me. I was just suggesting it because most people seem like they are going to vote for you or RotN. Yes, you only have 2 votes, but I think that's because we don't know how many scum are out there waiting to jump a speedlynch.

And I don't know what the "my schtick" stuff proves.

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@DonGaetano -- the only thing I can think of is that LB has been instructed to act this way, but also instructed that he can't talk about it (as he has said he has no restriction). Otherwise he is town, who did this meta-gaming thing that none of us are really convinced of.

But I think those possibilities are really slim.

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I know it's not a one-game antic, but I don't know what that tells me either. Just because you seem to do this a lot doesn't mean that you are never scum. But I will re-read the thread before 8 pm, and before voting.

For some reason I have a really strong urge to vote for Stewie. Have no idea why though. I still think voting for RotN/Roland is also a good bet.

[elvis_knits]

I can confirm that raj has a friend named Erica who goes to law school at Boston University. So, I believe his claim.

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It's true that un-nightkillable is a powerful town ability, but we had three night kills the first night, proving the anit-town forces are quite strong. The only hope of balancing a game like that would be to give some town roles awesome abilities.

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Sorry, Don, simulpost...

As to Erica being scum...I don't really know what factors raj is considering when making roles scum or not. I will say that Erica is "one of his girls." Not someone he has any bad feelings for. He had three of us reading his last English paper...I was second, and Erica was third, as he decided her advanced degree in law should have the final word. That's all I really know about her.

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OK. I just reread the thread, and I think Don Geatano's idea for us just to put all our suspicions out there is a good one.

First, here's everyone's post restrictions, that I can tell:
Stewie: Must correct foul language
logic: Must misspell five words per post
elvis: must post crazy pictures and stuff
iammars: act like a pirate and post pirate pics
RotN: capitalize F's and be the last to post for each day
Chaos: didn't say what his was, but that he did have one (page 4, post 77)

So my suspicions are as follows:

Chaos

- 1) For not saying what his restriction was. Also, I can't tell what his restriction is. Also, he didn't think revealing restrictions was a good idea. Why? I have no idea. But seems funny to me. (

Logic

also didn't want us all to reveal our restrictions).
2)Chaos keeps harping on RotN for the third vote stuff. Chaos keeps asking for an explanation when RotN has already given one. Honestly, the explanation was good enough for me. (I know this conflicts with my RotN suspicions below, but I may be wrong on one and not the other, and I have no idea which. Also, scum can go after one another).

Logic and Stewie

- for pushing Darq to refine her results about how many scum were active last night. It's possible scum want to know exactly how her ability works so that they can avoid her detection tonight.

RotN

- only because his role is Roland. We already know that inHim is most likely a scum role (from the death by bible stuff last night). I'm thinking that the foursome of friends from raj's hometown that are also scummers (MOS, raj, Roland, inHim) could be our scum. But maybe that's too breakable. I'll just put it as a possibility.

OKAY. That's my super-long post for you all. Please tell me what you all think of these things! Let's put it all out there!

[elvis_knits]

Oh sorry Chaos...chaos's restriction is that he can't vote until after dinner...I totally skipped over that part. That was dumb of me.

[elvis_knits]

I can say that at least one of the four is not scum.

Not necessarily, Raj could be scum in his spare time

Raj is alex, right?

Alex is his middle name, and the name that he goes by.

LB's claim about Erica is a law student at BU is completely correct, so I know that isn't fake. The only part he could be faking is that he is town I dunno though. The claim to be unnightkillable because she lives so far from Kentucky seems believable. Personally, I believe LB.

A mass claim? I'd do it if everyone agrees. I don't have a problem with it, but I don't really know the pro's and con's to it.

[elvis_knits]

From what Don and RotN are saying, scum can't win if LB is an unkillable townie.

HOW ABOUT IF THE SCUM KILL EVERYONE ELSE AND LYNCH LB THE LAST DAY?

LB can be lynched...so they can just lynch him when there's nobody else to prevent it (i.e. other townies).

About LB,

When it comes to your role being provable. My point is that I believe you have the ability you say you have, expecially because of what Elvis has said, I just don't think you're pro-town.

If having an unkillable townie is so powerful and unbalancing, how much more unbalancing is it to have an unkillable scum when we are already screwed into having three kills the first night? It sounds like town couldn't win with a set up like that.

unvote
vote don gaetano

[elvis_knits]

It says this on the first page:

Current Deadline: December 11, 8:30 PM EST

[elvis_knits]

The pros is that it helps my role.

In what way?

[elvis_knits]

i think it's not so much that we're idiots, but there's so much scum.

[elvis_knits]

I'll be online before the deadline.

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That sucks! (Sorry!)

Where is Stewie? People who aren't around at deadline are maybe scum because scum would be happy to let us no-lynch.

[elvis_knits]

My "That sucks!" was aimed at Ranger.

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I would like to say that I don't think raj would make one of his girls scum because he likes boobs too much. WAY too much.

On the other hand, somebody was killed with a vaginal cup last night. WHO THE HELL KILLS WITH A VAGINAL CUP?

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Maybe we should just lynch Ranger...I think that was a lot of people's second choice, and someone everyone can get behind.

I would also like to say that I am a girl and as a girl, I have no idea what a vaginal cup is, nor has my vagina ever needed a cup. I am trying to figure it out though, and the results are somewhat murky (no pun intended). He has requested I post my findings, but I don't want to make anyone vomit.



MOD EDIT: I already think i know what it is...

[elvis_knits]

I'm not voting LB either, whores!

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^^that's what I think Iammars! So vote Don Gaetano!

BTW...@Don that's what I thought a vaginal cup was but raj said something different and we were confused. There are some confusing pictures floating around on the internet...

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CLAIM DON

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Did LB say he was Unlynchable? NO. When the scum has majority, they can lynch him with no opposition.

But if there's three or more scum groups. Then they would have to kill each other to win. If there was two scum and LB left, they would have to choose either to have a draw with LB or each other. They wouldn't be able to win.

Not really...depends on who targets who and stuff.

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I'm saying they target eachother to kill eachother. Different scum groups can kill eachother even if they can't kill LB.

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OMG...if you're not scum, I don't understand how you cannot get this.

[elvis_knits]

STOP OUTGUESSING THE MOD

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everyone needs to vote for don now...even don

[elvis_knits]

we can't get to a lynch on don...

[elvis_knits]

because you keep wanting to lynch LB and refuse to see logic

[elvis_knits]

It sounds like two killers/groups tried to kill Iammars, as

Strangled with a bra and smothered with a T-bone

One person was strangling with a bra, and then another killed with a T-bone. They can't be on the same team because the Bra-Man ran away before the T-bone Guy got there.

[elvis_knits]

OH MAN! Thought you guys should know this:

Remember all of LyingBrian's bullshit saying he can't be scum because he hid a message in his posts saying "my schtick"??? Then he said I should defend him because I know he did this in another game we're in? Well, we lynched LB in that game and he CAME UP SCUM. So his dumb messages prove nothing and I feel like a fool for not lynching him yesterday. (Sorry to Don G for being ALL over you!)

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FOS: elvis_knits

for supplying incorrect information, etc. I can't believe we ended yesterday with no lynch. I think the lurking players are scum, and they lurked as a reason to end the day with a no-lynch. If this is true, then they could have been protecting LyingBrian....

Ugh, this is hard.

What incorrect information? I really am sorry for not lynching LB yesterday, but I was telling you as much as I knew at the time. Besides, Chaos, you never unvoted, so you didn't help much either.

Also...I have to do something right now, but, trust me, it hurts me more than it hurts you. (Tumors hurt, you know?)



SORRY if this grosses you out. Blame RAJ!

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Chaos:
I've been in NO other games where the mod didn't require an unvote to vote for someone else. I think this rule is standard. If I am wrong, please let me know (everybody).

You still didn't say what incorrect information I supplied, so you get this:

[elvis_knits]

Um, that's because he wasn't dead yet in the other mafia we're in together. There's no way for me to report to you guys about his role before he's dead.

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LB, the pics are not supplied by raj, I have to find them myself. They are supposed to be on the three topics you said: tumor, Elizabethtown and horses. They don't really mean anything to the game except that they hint at my role (I think, I don't know the person that I have). It's just sort of a flavor thing.

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i did an x-ray of a tumor because it is less disgusting than other kinds of pictures of a tumor. I did a "diagram" of a horse, because that is what i am required to do today. My role sometimes requires a "pic," sometimes a "diagram," and sometimes I just have to talk about whatever the topic is (horses, tumors, Elizabethtown).

Have you been to Elizabethtown? I want to go there. I want to meet Orlando Bloom so he can introduce me to his friend Viggo Mortensen. O SNAP! He's already here! Hi RangeroFtheNorth!

[elvis_knits]

It wouldn't be impossible for mafia to win with LB around. They can't kill him; they can lynch him. That's why mafia would definitely want to lynch him. That's why we have to be careful about lynching him.

Personally, I am leaning toward lynching LB. It's not so much that he turned up scum in our other game, but the fact that he wanted to use me to prove he was innocent in both games.

Anyway, I really think we should hear from some of the MUTE members of freaktown...like darquiel! I really want to know how many killers left their houses last night. I wouldn't want to vote until we got input from everyone. I mean, they may incriminate themselves in the process.

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Whoot! Go replacements!

[elvis_knits]

Personally, I am leaning toward lynching LB. It's not so much that he turned up scum in our other game, but the fact that he wanted to use me to prove he was innocent in both games.

i never said that i wanted you to confirm my innocence, i just asked you to confirm that my shtick was not necessarily an indication of my scumminess...

It's also not an indication of your innocence, so why bring it up at all?

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I agree...answer the question.

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Welcome halo freak!

Here are my thoughts on things right now:

To be honest, I don't know what to do about LB. I'd be fine with voting him, except for the fact that if he really is pro-town, we're screwing ourselves majorly. I find it REALLY suspicious that only two people left their houses to kill last night. It means nobody went to try to kill LyingBrian. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks bad for LB. (Unless scum counted on this making him look bad, thus setting him up for a lynch).

My second choice for scum is RotN. Let's not forget that his role is ROLAND.

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To be honest, I don't know what to do about LB. I'd be fine with voting him, except for the fact that if he really is pro-town, we're screwing ourselves majorly. I find it REALLY suspicious that only two people left their houses to kill last night. It means nobody went to try to kill LyingBrian. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks bad for LB. (Unless scum counted on this making him look bad, thus setting him up for a lynch).

Like I've pointed out several times today, any scum who tried to target LB tonight would be idiots. It would be pointless. The fact that he wasn't targeted doesn't make LB more suspicious or less suspicious. It only means that our killers aren't stupid.

I thought they might test him. Who knows if he's telling the truth? He could be a lying SK for all I know.

[elvis_knits]

I'm saying LyingBrian could be an SK. I'm not saying that an SK would want to kill LyingBrian.

Do we really never agree?

[elvis_knits]

My point is that the

mafia

have no way on knowing if LyingBrian is town or SK, and also can't know if he is lying about his unkillable ability. So they might try to kill him. I mean, unless they are just trusting him, they might try to kill him.

No?

Don...I <3 you, even though we never agree. A relationship need passion, does it not?

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Alex, don't modkill Don G...we're only friends, I swear!

[elvis_knits]

That makes sense. [/feels stupid]

[elvis_knits]

YAY, another person who suspects RotN!

*hi-five's halo-freak*

I have suspected RotN ever since I heard he was Roland. I'm anti-Ranger.

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Why is this page so skinny

LB, as halo said, I don't see the problem with you claiming. I don't see how it gaves the mafia any advantage. They already can't kill you at night -- or so you say. The only thing claiming will do is either help you convince the town that you are town, or incriminate yourself if someone can disprove you.

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Look at the freaky stuff happening in freaktown! Posts gone wild!

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So after halo voted for Ranger, I waited a little bit to see if anyone else jumped on the vote -- like if scum would jump on the lynch on an innocent. But nobody else has voted for Ranger for two days, which makes me think Ranger is scum. I think scum only vote for eachother if it looks like they have to.

So I'll

unvote; vote Ranger

LB...what is the harm in answering the question? The only reason I am not voting for you right now is that if you are town it would be very bad to lose you. But if you won't disclose your whole role I may vote for you anyway.

[elvis_knits]

Why didn't you just say you have no night choice when we asked you before? It seems really weird for you to hold out on us and then tell us you don't have a night choice.

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LB, if you are town, who do you have suspicions about? You have had to be very defensive because we've all been suss of you, but I think it might help the game move forward if you give your suspicions.

Either that, or we just lynch LB. Those are the best options I can think of at this point.

[elvis_knits]

elvis_knits seems sure that raj, roland, mos and inHim are scum. I would agree that some are, but I know that not all oF them are. I don't see any reason to mass name claim.

Actually, I don't think that, Ranger. I did throw it out as a possibility, but then Iammars said he KNEW that atleast one of them was NOT mafia. He has since died and wasn't scum, so I definitely believe him.

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I'm close to casting the last vote on LB. The more I think about it, being unnightkillable is a pretty good power for an SK to have. It's a fair advantage for them to have seeing as they don't have very many other advantages. Plus I still don't understand why he didn't just want to tell us he doesn't have a night choice. He was dragging it out forever, and I don't understand why.

[elvis_knits]

I'm sick of this. Whichever way you slice it, LB has acted scummiest so far.

unvote; vote LyingBrian

Also, Aragorn is hott (yes that's hot with two t's, denoting extra hotness). I like your new avatar, Ranger.

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Yes. I think that's a lynch.

[elvis_knits]

i wasn't lying...

We'll see when the lynch scene comes up, buster.

[elvis_knits]

All I know is raj said four to lynch. But in light of recent conversation, I feel like I made a mistake voting for LB. A second chance?

unvote LyingBrian

I want to vote for logic now. Is it bad form to lynch him while he isn't here? He said he won't be back until the 5th. But we can't wait that long. I'll try to go back and reread for more specific discussion of my suspicions.

[elvis_knits]

You didn't unvote.

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I pretty much believe LB now too, but I would like to say for the record, that I have seen scum pretend they are not scum during twilight. It gives the other scum a chance to say they believe the dead guy is innocent now, hence making other scum look more innocent.

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OMG I just realized today's deadline is at 2:30 p.m. EST.

vote rangerofthenorth

I don't know if we'll get to a lynch now at all though. Maybe raj and inhim could extend it, seeing as raj said it was four to lynch and confused us all?

[elvis_knits]

*prays for an extension*

Please could we have an extension? I mean we've been waiting for a lynch scene since Monday because raj said it was four to lynch. We wasted time becuase we thought it was four to lynch, and now it looks like there will be no lynch!

[elvis_knits]

WAIT...the deadline is tomorrow at 2:30! OK. We can still do this guys!

[elvis_knits]

I'd be down for roleclaim.

What scum do we think are left? 1 scum and 1 SK?

[elvis_knits]

Don G -- I agree with you about Chaos and Stewie.

Also, I'm doing an informal poll:

Do you like her hat?

[elvis_knits]

I am a fan of "silly" too. What is your favorite Italian word?

[elvis_knits]

I know nothing about raj's friend Steven and can neither confirm nor deny anything. (Just thought I'd let you guys know, because I have heard of some of the people).

[elvis_knits]

I am Jaide, aka Jaide225. I like to talk about Elizabethtown, horses, and tumors (and hence my posting restrictions). Also, I am supposed to pretend like I know everything (which I do ). I have no power. I am not any sort of cop or doc. I win with the town.

Right now, I think Stewie is our scum. There have been two people killed by the word of God in this game. I figured this killer would be inHim, but didn't think anyone would claim inHim. The fact that Stewie claimed inHim is confusing to me, but maybe that's why he did it (WIFOM as Chaos pointed out).

I have been thinking, maybe there is only one scum left. I sort of believe Chaos because Logic/raj was "sporked to death" last night, an action that has not happened before. Makes sense for a vig to have a killing action that we haven't seen thus far. Although, I guess he could just be a mafia member who hadn't done the actual killing any of the previous nights, and so we havn't seen his killing method.

Don, what do you think of Chaos' claim?

Oh and yeah, STEWIE...tell us your night choices, and try to save yourself if you are by some chance, not scum.

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Elvis, who's Jaide225?

Jaide is the girl raj took to prom, I think. He showed me a pic. Other than that I don't know anything really.

I think she'd approve of this diagram of a tumor though:


Hmm...I am not decided who to vote for yet. I'll be rereading the last few pages again to try to see how Don went from thinking Stewie was most likely scum, to voting for Chaos. I guess this is because he thinks Chaos is the "Shadow man." I'll be thinking...

[elvis_knits]

If you didn't know what your kill method was, why did you say in your vig-claim post:

I figured I would thrust my trusty spork into his face and see what happens.

And yeah, I basically think you are SK at this point. I may put my vote on shortly.


P.S. Don't you think horses are beautiful? I do. I own the movie Seabiscuit so that I can watch horses any time I want!

[elvis_knits]

The only reason I want to think about it some more is because relying too heavily on the mod death scenes can be dangerous. I'll probably vote Chaos in the next few hours though...

LyingBrian=peer pressurer!

[elvis_knits]

Ok. I'm convinced. How did we have three kills N1 if he's a one-shot vig? He's SK.

vote chaos

[elvis_knits]

I can see ways that you might not die.

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Anything you can say?

This is what I propose. It involves me assuming that Don Gaetano is town. And for the rest of you all, you have to assume that I am town also. For me this is not a leap, but the rest of you may not want to do it. This leaves Stewie or LB as SK.

NIGHT ACTIONS, as I think we should do them:
Don protects me
Stewie, if you are doc as you say, protect Don.

Now if the SK is LyingBrian he can only kill Stewie -- the player that is looking like he'll be lynched tomorrow. So if we open tomorrow with Stewie dead, we know LB is SK.

If Stewie is the SK, he has to kill Don, as I am protected and LyingBrian is unnightkillable. So if Don dies we know Stewie is SK.

Now, if we do the night actions I have suggested, the SK has to go no-kill. Or the SK will have to convince me that Don is scum, or alternately, convince Don that I am scum. Personally, I would not be easily convinced that Don is scum, so I warn scum not to try this avenue!

[elvis_knits]

Ok. Well anyway, I can see no way for Stewie to get out of this. I just can't see him being a placebo doc named inHim who heals by the power of God, when incidentally there is a different killer that kills by the word of God. Makes no sense.

[elvis_knits]

How does your plan tell us who is scum?

[elvis_knits]

Fritzler night one, darquiel every night after that exept yesterday, when I protected
Chaos (didn't think darquiel would get attacked... my bad).

People that died by the word of God are N1:Ibaesha (Lacey, cop)
and N3: HaloFreak (Sara, investigator)

Hey, so if Stewie is a placebo doc whose power doesn't always work (and sometimes backfires), he should have said he protected Ibaesha N1 -- because she is the one that died from the word of God, not Fritzler.

If Stewie sticks by his claimed actions, it seems IMPOSSIBLE to me that we have one player who protects by the word of God and ANOTHER player who kills by the word of God.

[elvis_knits]

Check this out (it's the REAL Seabiscuit):

[elvis_knits]

Furthermore, this game is wacky enough to have someone frame me in that fashion (kill in the way I would kill if I would).

There is no way I can believe that. Just as there is no way I can stop myself from watching the movie "Elizabethtown" over and over and over again.

[elvis_knits]

Look at this loser (I mean, isn't he cute?):

[elvis_knits]

Also, Stewie, good job

not

voting for any of the scum we've lynched. Really assures me that you are indeed pro-town. [/sarcasm]

vote: Stewie

[elvis_knits]

LB, I mean, what is the "information" that we can gather by having someone die? I guess the death crosses one person off our list of potential scum. Other than that, how will a kill tell us who is scum?

[elvis_knits]

I think we should lynch Stewie. That's why I'm voting him.

But if we go no-lynch and I die, this is what I think:

Don Gaetano - I don't think he's scum. I just don't. He's been very helpful in lynching scum, and I really don't think he's made a wrong move all game. If he's scum, I've been completely fooled (wouldn't be the first time!). I guess anything is possible, but I think Don Gaetano being scum is not very probable at all.

LyingBrian - He has acted scummy at times. Remember we almost lynched him? I do believe his role is Erica, and it makes sense that he can't be killed at night because I know that it is true that Erica is in law school in Boston. The fact that he wants to no-lynch is suspicious to me, though. It is making he take a second look at him.

I have a question I will go research and see if I can find the answer to: What happens if there is only two players left and one is the SK? Is it a draw? OR do they no-lynch and go to night where the SK kills the townie? I have the feeling that no-lynch today only helps the SK get closer to winning.

Stewie - I think I've already said that I can't buy that he is inHim and prays for people to be saved, but there is another player that frames him by killing by the word of God.

[elvis_knits]

Why don't you want to lynch Stewie?

[elvis_knits]

I think no-lynch is suspicious because I think it gives the SK a free kill tonight. First you talk about no-lynch, then you talk about Don agreeing not to protect anyone. Do you WANT someone to die?

About the Boston thing -- I don't know. True, it doesn't make sense for you to be able to come to Kentucky and kill if people in Kentucky can't come to Boston and kill you. So, if that's true, you aren't scum. In that case, it's Stewie.

[elvis_knits]

The only reason I REALLY want us to lynch someone is because I REALLY think Stewie is guilty.

Can you explain how it is possible that Stewie is innocent? How is it possible that Stewie uses the word of God to protect and another player uses the word of God to kill?

[elvis_knits]

I don't think I have talked about tumors yet today. I should. Tumors are crazy.

TUMOR FACT OF THE DAY:
I have a friend that was researching the benefits of EGCG (the stuff in green tea) on tumors. If you take enough EGCG it inhibits the tumor from getting a good blood supply, which makes the tumor die! But you can't just drink a lot of tea because the amount of EGCG in green tea is too small to make a difference. You have to take the stuff straight.

[elvis_knits]

i can't really explain it, b/c i'm not Alex or Aaron... do you KNOW that Aaron is religious?

Yes. Notice how his sn is "inHimshallibe" and "Him" is the only capitalized part.

[elvis_knits]

Maybe I'm wrong. I thought he was though.

[elvis_knits]

she might not kill by the word of god, but surely he can make it seem as if he killed by the word of god, as a framer.

I have not yet encountered any such "framer" role. Has anyone else?

[elvis_knits]

@LyingBrian

A no lynch is meaningless now, unless we run out of time today. Right now the fact is that either:

1. Elvis dies = we lynch Stewie.

2. Stewie dies = we lynch Elvis.

3. I die by the word of god. No information is gained and you would be alone to figure out who the remaining scum is.

Unless you think there's a possibility that I'm scum ofcourse, then it could help, but if you do, I can't understand why the remaining scum would kill anyone at all.

How come if Stewie dies I have to be scum? Why can't it be LB, or you, for that matter? I don't think either of you are scum, but why would it be impossible that anyone other than me would kill Stewie?

Also, I take it that nobody else has ever seen a game with a "framer" role, as none of you said you have. Doesn't that sort of prove Stewie is BSing us? I am not even convinced that a "framer" role even exists.

[elvis_knits]

Given that LB is not scum, I don't think Don is scum, and I am fairly sure that elvis is scum (97%, the other three are 2.5% for Don, and 0.5% in case LB is being mean and just toying with us)

Where do you get these percentages?

[elvis_knits]

Not sure. ( I don't know these people in real life. I just talk to raj on aim).

[elvis_knits]

yes

[elvis_knits]

Oh yeah. We're getting married at MeMe Meet.

[elvis_knits]

Yeah, I would think so. I see where you're going with this. Where is MOS?

[elvis_knits]

Here are the alive people's claimed names:

elvis=Jaide
LB=Erika
Don=Jed Psycho-Man Estes, AKA the Sexy Movie Man
Stewie=inHim/Aaron

So, where is MOS, I don't know. Maybe his real name is Steven and he was Chaos, and is already dead.

[elvis_knits]

my guess it would be Chaos, aka Steven... which makes this an interesting quote...

RotN - only because his role is Roland. We already know that inHim is most likely a scum role (from the death by bible stuff last night). I'm thinking that the foursome of friends from raj's hometown that are also scummers (MOS, raj, Roland, inHim) could be our scum. But maybe that's too breakable. I'll just put it as a possibility.

I can say that at least one of the four is not scum.

which would mean that Stewie is cleared... hmm, what do you think...

If Iammars knew what he was talking about, yes. But how did Iammars know that one of them was not scum? I don't think his role was able to investigate, was it?

[elvis_knits]

Wait, JHawk, is MOS's aim screenname, right?

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LB, I can BELIEVE Iammars was telling the truth, but not know if his info was correct or not.

ANYWAY...I'll be looking for that info about MOS then.

[elvis_knits]

Hey, I think raj just confirmed that MOS is scum, by saying he gave them his screenname and everything.

[elvis_knits]

Iammars' winning condition was that he had to find Alex/Raj.

I would assume he figured Alex was innocent.

Good thinking.

Remember that Darquiel turned out innocent, and he had a role that told him there were four scum.

Darquiel being insane with a role like that is too far fetched, so there can't be two scum left now, I'm sure there's only one.

Also, since we have three dead scum, I can't believe we have two left, giving us a total of 5 scum in this game. Isn't it normal to have 1/3 be scum in a game? That would be 4 scum. Meaning one left.

[elvis_knits]

I think everyone should post their role's aim screename. I know I already posted mine with my claim -- "Jaide225"

[elvis_knits]

Also, please note that LB put his SN in his original claim too:

well, i doubt you'll be able to confirm me, but here goes...

i am Erika, also known as wysiwyg...

i am currently studying Law @ BostonU, so there is not enough time for anybody to travel to Boston from Kentucky during the night, therefore i cannot be night-killed...

i hinted at this in post # 147...

the only response i have is if you truly believe me to be scum, have a vigilante (or even an SK or Mafia, for that matter) target me tonight... you'll see i come up a townie, just like you...

not sure i understand the importance of "wysiwyg" (what you see is what you get), but maybe somebody who knows rajrchpfreak can enlighten me?!...

[elvis_knits]

So, Don, you didn't say what your role's AIM screenname is. Neither did Stewie, but I guess he'll have that for us later. (BTW, I know what Aaron's AIM sn is, so if Stewie can't get it right, he's toast).

Also, I think that the way you guys are "confirming" yourselves by putting Stewie at lynch-minus-one and waiting to see if the other puts the lyncher on, is not totally fool proof. In my last newbie game (164) somebody used that reasoning to confirm me as town, and I was really scum. Just because somebody doesn't put on the lynching vote at a certain time doesn't mean they can't be scum. Just so you know. BUT, I still think Stewie is scum.

[elvis_knits]

patrick/roland pic is up.

That's hot.

p.s. sorry for that double post up there guys!

[elvis_knits]

BTW, I know what Aaron's AIM sn is, so if Stewie can't get it right, he's toast).

Just to clarify...I think there's a flaw in my reasoning here. I believe Aaron

should

be in the game, so I believe Stewie is Aaron. So, even if he doesn't know Aaron's screenname, I guess it doesn't really matter.

@Don. That's weird that you weren't given an AIM screenname, but maybe your character just doesn't have one.

[elvis_knits]

Anyways, I am fairly sure elvis is scum

X

(I've always wanted to try the big red "x")

[elvis_knits]

Good game to all!

Thanks, Alex!

[elvis_knits]

Yeah, bitching would have been awesome.

[elvis_knits]

P.S. I think it is awesome that Freaktown ended on Friday the 13th!

[elvis_knits]

Good job!