more like 2 dead cops and a vig? or FBI means undercover, so he knew who the mafia were?VisMaior wrote:WTF 3 dead cops or something?
anyway.
Macros wrote:hold the phone batman!
How are people buying CA's blatant crap logic? I'm sticking with my vote, his initial, "well if he wasn't dead he could clear me" BS was enough for me, but now going as far as to put words in our mouths
"oh when i claim you'll all be like d'oh and kick yourself in the face and stuff because my falsified claim is super fucking awesome and definately worthy of a self facekick"
geuss what CA? until i see this claim, i won't be saying anything of the kind, and if it is a plausable good role, i still won't kick myself in the face, i'll kick you for playing so badly and scummy as town.
Good-god people, he went as far to say "i'm first on is investigation list thats living, and hes dead, so clearly i'm innocent, ya know, I knew he was going to investigate me and now hes dead, so the clear logic is that i'm innocent" oh please why not give us a note saying "thats right, I nailed him because I knew he was going to investigate me, and find me as dirty as a white horse rolling in the mud".
tuh, vote stays
Why not vote? Because I have many suspicions and no need to vote... why are you questioning me not voting when you vote for me for not voting, just say your voting for me for not voting then I'll tell you why I'm not voting. Is it really so hard?Sotty7 wrote:Unvote: Dranko20
W!nt3r wrote:no the reason is: elvis_knits' post #98 in which she pointed out the face that Jecht was inconsistant in his support of bandwagon's, CA's point in saying Jecht was shady is basicaly saying "Yeah he did look kinda scummy"
FOS: Cropfor defending stupidness.
FOS: Jechtfor being scummy internet thing.Vote W!nt3rWhy are you FOS'ing and not voting in a game this size?
In other news I'll be out of town until after the weekend.
I eagerly await these notes, should be helpful to all of us.JechtMurray wrote:Yeah, this is fair enough. I was too enthusiastic about what I though was a scum mistake, and it was stupid. I'm in the process of making a monster post detailing interesting posts from the start of the game.Lostprophet wrote:Unvote, Vote: JechtMurray.
Might take a while to sort it out, but hopefully within an hour, I'll have all my notes spread in front of the town to see.
no we should vote to get a claim, we should vote to lynch. this is day one.Lostprophet wrote:Unvote, Vote: W!nter.
A). Iammars is dead.
B). Your attitude is arbitrary and poor.
C). So, we shouldn't vote for CA because he might end up being a doc? Or that he might fake roleclaim and where would that get us?What???.
Lostprophet wrote:Unvote, Vote: W!nter.
A). Iammars is dead.
B). Your attitude is arbitrary and poor.
C). So, we shouldn't vote for CA because he might end up being a doc? Or that he might fake roleclaim and where would that get us?What???.
Lostprophet wrote:Ah, it's the "super-long analysis/OMGWTFYOUVOTEDFORME" guy. That's usually me, but so it goes.
Your ad hom diatribe there only fuels the fire, though. If you're a townie I would strongly reconsider your tactics. If not, feel free to continue shoveling your own grave.
I realized my flaw only after I had posted that first CA-defence message in my first brash post.Jechtmurray wrote:but this is slightly double standards. What if I claimed doc? That's exactly the same situation there. (that's just an example, just so you all know)
(Emphasis mine)jechtmurray wrote:I'm still deciding how best to use my Vote for the moment, so I'll give you an obligatory FOS:W!nt3r for using suspect reasoning for not making CA claim,a reason that could be applied to pretty much everyone, you know?
Yes and no.Commodore Amazing wrote:Is that a claim? Like, a full claim?
The FBI is the SK finder, he searches each night for the SK role and once found, kills it. At least that is if I understood correctly, the first day.JechtMurray wrote:C'mon, get a grip. The town's already taken a really bad hit night one. As townies, people really cannot just let themselves die without a damn good reason. With 2 dead cops and a dead FBI (which I don't actually know what it would do) we need to make the correct lynches more often than usual because I would imagine we're going to get less leads.
when a dead innosent clears 4 others and points towards a possible scum it does help. But I'm not going to be lynched because LP is too scared to have multiple confirmed innos'Aureal wrote:Er, whose? Besides yours, a dead innocent isn't of much use.W!nt3r wrote:Well to be honest my Death will prove at least one persons innosence. if not more.
Thanks.Lostprophet wrote:But if I was scared of having confirmed townies, then that would mean... that I'm... oh that's clever. Nice reversal there.W!nt3r wrote:when a dead innosent clears 4 others and points towards a possible scum it does help. But I'm not going to be lynched because LP is too scared to have multiple confirmed innos'
What exactly do you mean by the emphasized text? That just kinda confused me.Lostprophet wrote: I'm not sure how comfortable I am with lynching Jecht here, but the CA wagon looks unnattractiveand this W!nt3r wagon didn't really get me anywhere either.So for now I'll simplyUnvote.
Smilax765 wrote:<SNIP>.
Smilax765 wrote:Alright here is my post.
After thinking, I have arrived at the following conclusion regarding CA. My theory revolves around the idea that we don't know if there is a type of character that can revive people in this game. If that isn't true please let me know immediatly. CA said that he wanted a player to revive Iammars so Immars could confirm his innocence. CA has demonstrated that it is likely that Immars would have investigated him the first night.
Now if CA was scum he honestly wouldn't want any player to revive Iammars because Iammars would inform us all of CA's scumminess.
Also, after reading the Davis Wiki I have found that there isn't any role mentioned that would allow for a revival. Unless the mods in this game are known for including such a unique role then the odds of someone being able to revive are incredibly low. From a scummy CAs perspective requesting that Iammars be revived was "safe" since the odds were low that Iammars would actually be revived. By making the request CA could safely claim his innocence. He did this early, knowing it would probably get him a few vote but knowing that it would be worth it overall.
His first post regading the revival issue was solely the revival request. After gaining a bit of a bandwagon he then informed us why he believed Iammars would investigate him. This really provides us with no good information. We all knew that he thought Iammars would investigate him. Knowing why he thought this, while important, doesn't help to prove his innocence at all. However since he posted this after his initial bandwagon formed, he made it SEEM like a defense. It isn't a defense.
Then he proceded to accuse other people. Now people have begun to unvote CA and move onto his accusation. Many of these people have become convinced that he is innocent . Some might be basing that on the fact that Iammars most likely investigated him.
It all seems wrong to me. Many people were initially suspicous regarding the revival request including me. It just seems fishy. I havn't seen anything posted yet that has relieved me of my suspicion. I am still suspicious and my vote remains.
The above does not give you a free pass to vote for Me or Jecht without explaining your actions, Vismaior.inHimshallibe wrote:I am growing suspicious of those detracting from the runups of W!nt3r and/or JechtMurray. Lynching provides good information. Those going off in 500 different ways just don't help in the first couple of Days.
What is the difference betweeninHimshallibe wrote:Here are the people under my suspicion at the moment. I'll go through later and back these up. I won't now because I'm tired.
inHim's mafia picks: JechtMurray, lostprophet, StrykkerVerde
I'm pretty good with bandwagoning: the above 3, W!nt3r, cropcircles
Won't be getting a vote from me Today: Macros
Unvote
Vote: JechtMurray
Jecht is not voting for himself, I believe his final vote lies with Inhim.Crola wrote:Vote Count:
1 TSAGod(Coron)
7 Commodore Amazing(Pooky, Strykker, Macros, PeaceBringer, Smilax, Bigbenwd, spamwise)
1 elvis_knits(Aureal)
1 Cropcircles(diggy)
1 Lostprophet(MoS)
7 Jecht(Nightfall, Cropcircles, Tyfo, HeZLucky, Bamboomancer, Jecht, inhim, CA)
5 w!nt3r(Sotty, ibaesha, TSAGOD, armlx, VisMajor)
2 inhim(elvis_knits, Jecht)
0 No Lynch
7 Not Voting(bethelmark, dranko, roland, sinister_bunny, nonny, W!nt3r, Lostprophet)
17 to lynch. Sorry about the delay guys, I was a little busy.
Town, poor play, alterior motive, generate discussion of possible roles.Smilax765 wrote:Aureal:
All I know is that after CA explained why Iammars would vote for him people began to unvote CA.
To address your first point. Do you argue that CA didn't make the revival request to gain the trust of the town? If this is your argument then I have a question for you: Why would any player, townie or scum, make such a post so early in the game?
Seems the "analysis'" got weaker and weaker each time you posted them until they hit nonexistance... uh...huh...inHimshallibe wrote:Ah, the ones I didn't mind bandwagoning. Well, there's not as much analysis going on here as there is patterns, tendencies, and intuition. I feel that cropcircles would be worthy of a lynch, but I'm not as sure as the others. As for you, W!nt3r, I made the comment about running you up because you were a current wagon, and I could see it as a wagon that scum might jump on, regardless of your alignment.W!nt3r wrote:I believe you still have not finished your analysis... so please get back to that... or point me to where it is.inHimshallibe wrote:Unvote- I think it can be used for the most information.
Vote: Jecht
There, I'm done. Dog me or whatever for what I have posted; it's Day 1, and this is how I feel.
He is still on my suspect list but this altercation has nothing to do with it.ibaesha wrote:Now that I'm done being completely baffled by this recent exchange...
InHim promised analysis.
W!nt3r was very interested in this analysis. Seemingly with an expectation of great revelation coming from said analysis. He's now disappointed.
Just a thought: Not everyone has the best game, day, week... knocking someone because you 'expected more' isn't really going to get you anywhere.
Now then, W!nt3r - Do you think InHim is scum or are you just irritated?
Elvis: Of course... I really need to post more. Elvis is forgetting our shared love of cliff notes. Too bad there isn't any.