In the Court of the Gods (Game Over)

[CryMeARiver]

Ooo I look forward into diving into this tajo/DGB fight
I must admit, I had the same exact thoughts as tajo when DGB asked the question as DGB can confirm.
Also, HAI ANDRIUS ♥

[hitogoroshi]

Pages and pages of back and forth battleposts...yuck.

Andrius gets a few points for such a motivated but slapdash catchup. While it was nothing too game-relevant, I envision scum being hesitant to say so much with so little attention paid to any one part. It's a risky signal for scum, too easy to make a slip.

I think DGB is almost certainly one of the town god(desse)s. Her contributions in thread are awesome enough on their own, but shes also been very active in QT, thinking of the implications of the masonry and trying to suss out scum. Multiply that effort by five, and I have a

really

hard time believing it's all scum putting on a show.

To that end, I like her points on Tajo. As soon as I started the game, I thought, "I want to start talking in QT, and talk a lot. Best way to figure out of DGB is a scum god or town god." She obviously thinks the same way about her followers, and Tajo apparently doesn't think the same about her. Personally, even if I suspected I had drawn the scum god, I'd still put a smile on and keep chatting, trying to confirm or deny my suspicions.

As well, Jack is correct that the wagon times really need to begin. So;

Unvote, Vote: populartajo

Also, since everyone loves lists:

Alpha Town Madness:

hitogoroshi, Equinox

Town

: Jack, LadyLambdadelta

Town-flavored-null:

Spyrex, Andrius, farside22, Feysal

Scum-flavored-null

: Zang, DRK,

Scum:

populartajo, themanhimself

Insufficient Data:

Mina, CMAR, Benmage

[populartajo]

let me summarize these last pages of how things went so people with zero reading comprehension dont get the wrong idea:

1. DGB asked in the QTs : "would you sacrifice yourself as a VT for a PR?" According to her this was a test and the right answer would be : ""I wont claim but if I were vanilla I'd be delighted to sacrifice myself to preserve a power role."

2. Tajo realized this could be a potential attempt to rolefish for VTs as some idiotic people could go on and claim VT that could sacrifice for PRs. He attacks DGB for this.

3. DGB: "There are no idiotic people that could make a mistake like that so your argument FAILS. Also you refused to sacrifice yourself as a VT for a PR. DIESCUMDIE"

4. Tajo: =S

5. People with zero reading comprehension or scumbags : OMG, TAJO IS SO SCUM!!

DGB, please correct this summary if its wrong. I really dont think s.

[DrippingGoofball]

I must admit, I had the same exact thoughts as tajo when DGB asked the question as DGB can confirm.

Confirmed.

[populartajo]

someone explain to me (specially these new voters) what is my scum motivation to get in a dog fight with someone who a)is influential as hell and b)cant even get lynched.

[populartajo]

Alpha Town Madness: hitogoroshi, Equinox

do you usually put yourself on your town lists?

DGB: Wait, so CMAR also thought you were rolefishing? I dont get what you are confirming.

[DrippingGoofball]

someone explain to me (specially these new voters) what is my scum motivation to get in a dog fight with someone who a)is influential as hell and b)cant even get lynched.

Cuz you want to spread suspicion... and reduce cooperation and communication in the masonry.

[populartajo]

this isnt a freaking masonry are you blind? we dont have confirmations, we havent even lynched someone, we dont even have a decent wagon

god

[DrippingGoofball]

Alpha Town Madness: hitogoroshi, Equinox

do you usually put yourself on your town lists?

DGB: Wait, so CMAR also thought you were rolefishing? I dont get what you are confirming.

We had a friendly exchange where CMAR eventually expressed his willingness to sacrifice himself for a power role,

should he be vanilla

. Which is all I wanted. He wouldn't say that as scum, because there might be a need for him sacrifice himself later,

and if he refused, he'd be a marked man

if you get my drift.

If CMAR were scum, he'd have to be stubbornly UNWILLING to express a even CONDITIONAL willing to self-sacrifice. LIKE YOU HAVE DONE.

Your reactions have been curt, short and hostile, by contrast.

Currently, you are not in the QT trying to patch things up or clarify anything, either. THAT ALSO IS TELLING ME THAT YOU ARE SCUM.

So with 4/5 of my masons giving off the fresh scent of townie, and you being the one stinking to high heaven, I want you dead.

[DrippingGoofball]

this isnt a freaking masonry are you blind? we dont have confirmations, we havent even lynched someone, we dont even have a decent wagon

god

OK It's a neighborhood and you're the scum neighbor.

And we will have a wagon, and a scum flip after we hang you.

[hitogoroshi]

someone explain to me (specially these new voters) what is my scum motivation to get in a dog fight with someone who a)is influential as hell and b)cant even get lynched.

It makes plenty of sense if your god is Fishy. You get to defend scummy-as-all-hell NS for some brownies with him (and lets not forget which god he is), conveniently brush off Fishy as null, and go in guns blazing for DGB. Then, because she's so obvtown, when pressed you can give us all the WIFOM gambit of, "what is my scum motivation to get in a dog fight with someone who a)is influential as hell and b)cant even get lynched."

do you usually put yourself on your town lists?

Depends. When I'm listing each name on it's own line, I usually skip myself. With the categories, I prefer to be able to confirm I haven't missed everyone by counting and making sure I get the right number of players. (Though truth be told, that's mostly just the reason I did it this time; I can't even remember the last time I did a categories town-list.)

[populartajo]

i dont want to go to qt, why do we have to keep things secret? i can evaluate your alignment in this place as well.

lets try this exercise:

lets assume you are the town god:

DGB asks to all her followers: hey would you do this for me?

Follower 1 says: yeah DGB, I love you!!
Follower 2 says: mmmkay.
Follower 3 says: hey why are you asking this? you can also be scum.

Be as honest as possible, who is the most likely scum in this scenario?

[populartajo]

someone explain to me (specially these new voters) what is my scum motivation to get in a dog fight with someone who a)is influential as hell and b)cant even get lynched.

It makes plenty of sense if your god is Fishy. You get to defend scummy-as-all-hell NS for some brownies with him (and lets not forget which god he is), conveniently brush off Fishy as null, and go in guns blazing for DGB. Then, because she's so obvtown, when pressed you can give us all the WIFOM gambit of, "what is my scum motivation to get in a dog fight with someone who a)is influential as hell and b)cant even get lynched."

serious question now, what are the odds of this happening (and probably getting lynched in the process) and what are the odds of me being town fighting for what I truly believe?

[DrippingGoofball]

Follower 1 says: yeah DGB, I love you!!
Follower 2 says: mmmkay.
Follower 3 says: hey why are you asking this? you can also be scum.

Be as honest as possible, who is the most likely scum in this scenario?

No. That's not what it was.

Follower 1 says: "Yes, if I were vanilla, I would sacrifice myself, of course!"
Follower 2 says: "Yes, if I were vanilla, I would sacrifice myself, of course!"
Follower 3 says: "Yes, if I were vanilla, I would sacrifice myself, of course!"
Follower 4 says: "Yes, if I were vanilla, I would sacrifice myself, of course!"
Follower 5 says: "FfffFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF uUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU scum"

[populartajo]

answer the question

[DrippingGoofball]

answer the question

The most likely scum is you - by a landslide.

[populartajo]

you are refusing to see my point

town
Andrius
CryMeARiver
Equinox
Mina
themanhimself
Jack
Lady Lambdadelta


neutral (lynch when scum list is done)
Zang
farside22
Feysal
Benmage

scum
hitogoroshi
SpyreX
DeathRowKitty

Vote: DRK.

lynch me if you want, im done with this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Populartajo, can I ask why you are attempting to set traps for DGB to fall into?

For example, that last question was a loaded one, because the answer would make DGB look bad in her argument.

When in reality the facts of the matter are that your proposed situation isn't anywhere near the truth. It's been twisted to your own needs.

[Feysal]

Looks like I have six pages worth to catch up on. I replaced into another game during the weekend and gave priority to getting up to speed there... at the cost of falling behind in other games.

I'll be reading what I missed tomorrow, now I need to sleep.

[Andrius]

these things should NOT be secret specially when you suspect your god can be the scum god.
BUTTTT i like how youve cleared dgb from the go, it speaks well of your scum status or more likely your stupidity.

You're missing the picture, aren't you.
You clearly are missing the train, or are just missing the wagon. No big.
DGB is my #1 pick for town-God of all three. Ns is #1 scum.

when did I say that if I were a VT I wouldnt sacrifice myself for a PR?

DGB/you QT yeS?
DGB anyway.

It wasn't rolefishing. It was an innocent Q.

I can, actually, read.

You know, this combined with the "Anonscum" slip, is kind of adding up against you Tajo.

+1 misrep

OH GOD I WANT TO VOTE YOU SO BAD.

You aren't doing so... why?

Andrius gets a few points for such a motivated but slapdash catchup. While it was nothing too game-relevant, I envision scum being hesitant to say so much with so little attention paid to any one part. It's a risky signal for scum, too easy to make a slip.

Since you seem a bit let-down by my catchup, anything you want to ask me? Anything I can do to help?

HAI CMAR.

ON that note, anyone have anything in specific for me? I think I've been fairly open in my catchup.

[Nobody Special]

I've just had two entirely separate things come up today, which are going to require a huge chunk of time. I most likely won't be able to post to my games until Wednesday morning.

Sorry about this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Because TMH is scum and needs to <die the death> Andrius.

[Andrius]

Except tajo is ALSO scum AND a better player. So yeah.

MOVE OVER HERE OR ILL USE YOU AS A SACRIFICE FOR THE FIRST TWILIGHT.

[DrippingGoofball]

Mod note: duplicate post (sans coloring) deleted

[DrippingGoofball]

Because TMH is scum and needs to <die the death> Andrius.

Don't worry, there is a lot of clamoring for the death of TMH in the Fruit God's temple. He will get his comeuppance.

Look at tajo's list:

town

Andrius
CryMeARiver
Equinox
Mina
themanhimself >>>>>>>>>>>SCUM
Jack
Lady Lambdadelta

All his townies are townies, except TMH. How 'bout that. We have to kill TMH, after tajo flips scum.