In the Court of the Gods (Game Over)
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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Furthermore, I have the utmost respect for the way you play the game.
So to see you give up so easily is rather disheartening.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Equinox 323 wrote:I'm about ready to put my hands up in the air and just admit scum, even if I'm lying out of my ass.
This is stupid.It's useless, isn't it? It's all useless!
No, seriously, keep your head in the game. I don't know if I agree with your conclusions or not but you're definitely my strongest town read and I don't want to see you flaking Petra-style.
Take a thread break if you need it, lord knows you've earned it."Don’t buy a dozen eggs if you just want a hardboiled egg. Don’t buy a head of lettuce if you just want a salad. Don’t buy eggs and lettuce if you want egg salad because those are not the right ingredients." -Julius Bloop-
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farside22 Mafia Mum
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Lots of arguments to read last page. I want to finish my read of all the players before I get in the middle of LL and Eq.
DRK wins the award for knowing Gary Larson. That was the best laugh I had today (sad to say).
I have tons o crap to do so I don't expect to finish my read of everyone before my LA tomorrow, I will try my best.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Pulling these out of my wall, since it's getting really big.
Jack: Why did you vote Lady Lambdadelta in post 25? "I forgot" isn't an answer, by the way. Oh, yeah, I don't understand your FoS on farside22, either; her post was reasonable.
SpyreX: What do you mean by post 214?-
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While I'm at it, post 217 from SpyreX in response to Nobody Special:
Jack claims Nobody Special claimed scum, an allegation Nobody Special denies. Nobody Special states that the only communication that went between him and Jack at this point was Nobody Special's request for a claim and Jack's 2-3 word response. Why did you think Nobody Special was lying?SpyreX wrote:Yes, I do.
I think you screwed up and this is going to pan out in a perfect storm of WOOOAH.
I'd rather not waste a lynch to get there.-
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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It would appear Battler has regained his swagger.
Good.
Equinox, with regards to TMH, what parts of my case do you disagree with, and what makes him town in your mind?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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Equinox is town, folks.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Almost done. I have 3 more players after this but I'm heading out to dinner.
Here's were I am at, and no I'm not going to worry about who is scum God at this time, my goal is to find the scum mortal.
Feysal - sarcastic
It was SpyreX who said you would flip town. Andrius simply followed up on that. Are you even paying attention?Jack #120 wrote:
You know I'm town thus you are scum.Andrius wrote:Ok guys, why would knowing who the scumgod is NOT be worth it?!?
What??? One has nothing to do with the other.
I really don't know about Feysal. I feel troubled when I see someone who hasn't voted someone and doesn't have real scum reads. I don't read anything that really comes across as scummy. I read his post as more trying to figure things out but I wish I could see more scum hunting from him and opinions or question of others to decide for sure.
Mina - 2 post seems thought out, too early to get a read.
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post 145
This is lazy and way too early for thinking like this.
There is a lot of talk about Jack's lie and I get the frustration and feeling from TMH from his views and opinion as a town prospective and not scummy.
TMH do me a big favor and tell me who else you find scummy in the game and why?
I think this may help clear you single mindness as well.
Benmage - four post, 1 promising to catch up. Nothing super great, nothing to report here.
DeathRowKitty - after not much said the first few post I get to a post full of oppinions. I do think it's odd that he votes for TMH, but says he has subtle town vibes for him. Doesn't quite make sense.
I really, really don't understand the vote for hito when you never said anything about him in your catch up post
well at least he is voting for LL for a reason. I expect more from DRK but maybe that's just a long ago memory when he did his own gambit as town once upon a game.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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CURRENT OFFERINGS AT THE ALTAR
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WINEGRAPES
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Lady Lambdadelta
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PRUNES
themanhimself
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OVER RIPE & MOLDY
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SpyreX
WORMY APPLES SERVED BY A TALKING SNAKE
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ZangParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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BP... Blood Pressure? British Petroleum? Brad Pitt? Black Power? Bipolar Disorder? Boston Pizza?
I'll grant what I want, when I want. Suggestions are NOT welcome.
Where's the fruit????? You know I demand fruit, and you come empty handed. Curses be upon you!Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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I brought you a Unicorn.
Does that count?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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I LIKE FRUIT
What am I going to do with a unicorn? Can they haul fruit out of the temples' back doors up Mount Olympus?
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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All right. I didn't think I'd be doing this while being an angry, hissing cat, but I have to do this now or I'll never get it done.
Spoiler: The Wall of Doomtl;dr
UNVOTE:
Scum: Feysal, Zang
Pending: Andrius*, Benmage, DeathRowKitty, hitogoroshi*, Lady Lambdadelta*, SpyreX, themanhimself*
I'd also take this moment to say that if themanhimself is scum, Lady Lambdadelta is not scum; their interactions don't read like bussing.Spoiler: Summary from above wall of the not-really-case on themanhimself
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I actually am kinda useless until I get this stuff done. Be back in a few hours.
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I just realized I have more stuff to pull out of that wall.
But before I do that:
Answer would be great, thank you muchly.Equinox wrote:Jack: Why did you vote Lady Lambdadelta in post 25? "I forgot" isn't an answer, by the way. Oh, yeah, I don't understand your FoS on farside22, either; her post was reasonable.
Why did you think Andrius was town at this point?In post 229, DeathRowKitty wrote:Vote: AndriusUnfortunately I think he's town :/
Italicized content is my addition:
Explain, please.In post 241, DeathRowKitty wrote:I figured I'd leave my vote on[themanhimself]earlier to at least let it do something before I changed it in the same post I made it.
What?DrippingGoofball wrote:Andrius is town. I will vouch for thisuntil he makes a mistkae.
Also, Benmage is town.
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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DrippingGoofball wrote:I LIKE FRUIT
What am I going to do with a unicorn? Can they haul fruit out of the temples' back doors up Mount Olympus?
The unicorn was for sacrifice.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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Also, @Equinox: Your case on TMH is perfecto.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,click here.
If you wish tospeak to one of us, we are Niamh, Rhiannon, Rhea, Aisling, Saoirse, Selene, Aoife, Fírinne, Aurélie, Lyra, Airna, Fiadh and Laoise.
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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EBWOP:
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,click here.
If you wish tospeak to one of us, we are Niamh, Rhiannon, Rhea, Aisling, Saoirse, Selene, Aoife, Fírinne, Aurélie, Lyra, Airna, Fiadh and Laoise.
Soar on wings of retribution and set the world ablaze-
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Thanks for spoiling the Doom Wall.
Spoiler: Herd you liek walls so I wrote a wall bout your wall
While I like the DOOMWALL, I'm missing some of the links from there to your scum reads. You say "We all know why Zang is scum" but I'm not one of them. (There is a theory DGB and I are kicking around in QT, but it was mostly her idea so I'll leave it to her.) And while Feysal's 280 is iffy (Aww fuck, I suspected hito and Equi! I don't want to get tangled up with either of them!) it's the walking-on-eggshells hesitance that I see when I look at my own personal early town play. He has a terrible signal:noise ratio with his too-long posts, but I'm leery to rank him any scummier than our bumper crop of lurkers without seeing more. Of course, I'm biased after getting a lot of flak starting out for, essentially, being Feysal.
Speaking of bumper crop of lurkers...perhaps we should slow down a bit and let the other kids catch up. I've been in multiples games where a fast-paced town absolutelykilledsome of the townies."Don’t buy a dozen eggs if you just want a hardboiled egg. Don’t buy a head of lettuce if you just want a salad. Don’t buy eggs and lettuce if you want egg salad because those are not the right ingredients." -Julius Bloop-
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@equinox: I found several of LL's posts about NS to be scummy. First, not commenting, then the weird post where she just refers to him as "my god" and brings up the "he asked for my role" thing, and the last line of 22; overall it sounded to me like someone who had inside info on whether NS was the scum god or not.
Have no idea why I fos'd farside though.-
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Nobody Special wrote:@Fishy: Does LLL = Lady Lambdadelta? (Post 299)[/b][/color]Yeah, I just got carried away with the Ls.
To reiterate what I said there: LLD going after Jack and tmh at the same time feels wrong to me - if you think Jack is scummy, I don't see how you could fail to understand tmh's position. As Equinox notes, this just seems like a lie:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I stayed on Jack because I was convinced he was scum, until I started to see what people (namely you) were talking about with reference to the gambit. Since the Gambit was outed, Jack has started to play more like a townie, so I dropped him.
If you recall, I had been suspicious of the way TMH handled his case on Jack, even going as far as to FoS him for tunnelling (I was still voting Jack, because I was still under the impression that his motives were scummy.)
The scum motivation for TMH tunneling Jack was that Jack seemed to be a rather easy lynch at the time. Just use a LAL policy and go under the claim of "this will provide the most info" and you have your case on Jack. What makes him scummy is that now that the Jack case has died, and it is no longer a easy lynch, TMH seems to be slinking off it. He is slowly backing off.LLD really didn't just drop Jack like that. She continued to FoS him while going after TMH - which feels like an attempt to withdraw slowly from her read. This post attempts to brush that under the carpet.
LLD says TMH attacked Jack, and slunk off when he stopped being a difficult lynch. Sounds good, but that's just not true. TMH attacked Jack for a long time after Jack stopped looking like a likely lynch, with no obvious scum benefit.
VOTE: LLD-
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before I forget to ask and go to bed and have absolutely very little time to think about mafia tomorrow.
Fishy: Why did you ask me in the QT what I found scummy about you and you didn't ask that in public?
What is your view of equinox in the QT? and are you chatting with all your follows to some extent?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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@farside:
1. You said you always found me scummy. That made me think that it wasn't massively game relevant, and so I asked in the QT (your answers were actually more specific to this game than I expected from your post in the thread). Also, I wanted to get a conversation going in there.
2. I am chatting to all my followers to varying extents. I don't intend to make any reads from my QTs public until it becomes a good idea (ie. they are being wagonned, or I have a decently strong scumread on them). I think there is more to be gained by waiting.-
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1) Well the last game we were in was a zoraster game and I thought you came off scummy there for different reason, hence my I always find fishy scummy comment. I'm sure we were in another game but that was the one I was thinking of when I made that statement. I answered what in this game made you scummy to see what you would say. (hey your 3rd on my list as far as scum God, but not for a good reason).Fishythefish wrote:@farside:
1. You said you always found me scummy. That made me think that it wasn't massively game relevant, and so I asked in the QT (your answers were actually more specific to this game than I expected from your post in the thread). Also, I wanted to get a conversation going in there.
2. I am chatting to all my followers to varying extents. I don't intend to make any reads from my QTs public until it becomes a good idea (ie. they are being wagonned, or I have a decently strong scumread on them). I think there is more to be gained by waiting.
3) fair enough. But I think a few days (game days) all the God's should have some feed back about their follows from the QT.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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What do you mean I fell for it? I believe I was the first to mention Jack's reputation for town gambits, some posts after themanhimself had speculated on it being a scum gambit. Having seen a scum gambit from Jack, I was left wondering which one it was here, since I could not see his purpose.Equinox #338 wrote:I'm surprised how many people fell for Jack's gambit. Seriously, guys. And by "guys," I mean Feysal.
You already wrote in #283 that I tend to use too many words to get my point across (it was Jack who first mentioned that by the way). I admit that I am verbose. Does this matter?Equinox #338 wrote:Feysal has a tendency to go stream-of-consciousness, and this post borders on TMI... which makes no sense in a day-talk game, really.
Tying these things together really was not the point I was trying to make. I find it interesting that Jack's gambit was supposed to get reads by provoking reactions, and the focus has been almost solely on themanhimself. I find that SpyreX's reaction of calling him town very early was at least as noteworthy, if not more so. His explanation in #266 was that Jack's gambit was suicidal, and combined with Nobody Special's play it made him think Jack town. But... at the time SpyreX first called Jack town, I really don't know how he could've had such a strong read on Nobody Special's play, and he admitted that Jack had made suicidal gambits before as scum. Also, SpyreX was not really answering the question he was asked. He explained why he thought Jack was town, when the question was why he thought Jack was telling the straight truth. Many others seem to think Jack is town, but that he still lied.Equinox #338 wrote:
Wow, talk about... talking about 2 different things and tying them together.Feysal #262 wrote:SpyreX is the exception to this, due to him taking the stance that Jack is town. It is also odd that Jack missed this. He called Andrius scum for knowing he was town, but he has not mentioned SpyreX at all.
I see hitogoroshi already asked this, but I'd like you to clarify this too. What slip are you talking about?Equinox #338 wrote:
This still reads to me as trying to cover up a potential slip.Feysal #279 wrote:Of course, the scum god and priests knowing it was a gambit would've enabled them to give calculated responses. Spotting those might even have been easier than trying to separate townies wanting to lynch Jack for his lie from scum who see easy prey.
It was a mistake on my part. I wrote in #279 that we might have a better chance of finding scum among those who jumped off Jack, and posted before checking who those people were. Then I realized it was just you and hitogoroshi, and posted that as a correction, since you are one of my better town reads.Equinox #338 wrote:Post 280 is still disgusting.
So much about that, for now. My top suspects are SpyreX and Andrius. I've played with them both before with them as scum, and I am getting the same kind of feel from them now. For SpyreX, the read is mainly due to his early stance on Jack, and for them both it is about them being in the background without really doing much. I have a question for them both:
@SpyreX: Why would you think Jack is telling the straight truth? You say you think Jack is town, but many others believe Jack could be town and still lie.
@Andrius: Can you explain your reads in #270?
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