Mini 1096 - Seinfeld Mafia (Game Over)

[Katsuki]

HAI TO YOU TOO MOI I KNOW YOU LOVE CAPS.
HOWEVER, YOU STOLE MY FIRST POST.

VOTE: MOI

Disclaimer: I have never watched Seinfeld before, so in essence, I do not know any of the characters

[Katsuki]

You do remember me claiming that too in Castlevania, where you modded, right?

Because, like castlevania, I have no knowledge of this show (at least this time I've heard of it).

and come now, if I were to do that EVERY time I were scum, my scum record would be absolutely atrocious.

[Katsuki]

Oh shit, you've nailed me!

LOTR was quite the failure in terms of play. I think that was my 6th scum game in a row or something like that at the time and well... You and LMP saw what that resulted in... (SUPER SCUMMY KAT)

[Katsuki]

LMP is bussing.

[Katsuki]

Look at UT trying to divert all the attention away from MOI/LMP interaction at Charter.

Scum are making this easy.

[Katsuki]

@freak: How is signing up for THE MOD rather than the flavor jerkish?

Comments after I read through this game later today. My wish would be for MOI posts to turn into one-liners, but I don't think that is likely to happen anytime soon.

[Katsuki]

Comments:

- UT hop off MOI wagon feels odd. I do not get the charter vote. Noting this for future reference.
- I do not get all the shenanigans going about with UT's list. It basically consisted of the first four names that appeared in this game (MOI, myself, charter via MOI vote, and LMP via discussion).

Players who have attack said list and hung on: LMP

- Ooo look at rajr hop onto MOI wagon in #51. Bus more.
- Rajr #60 is weak.
- #69: Cute, both MOI and LMP are calling UT each other's scumbuddy.
Continuation on this point, both are throwing a shitload of smokescreens at each other as of the most recent page.
- LMP is being unusually evasive thus far.
- LMP #81 shows how he is further analyzing what was a random list from UT. Both he and MOI are paying FAR too much attention to it.
- Talitha's entrance is VERY underwhelming. Takes rather weak stances, and ends with soft vote on rajr. HMM.
- PEANUTMAN IS TOWN BY VIRTUE OF #85

Oh, and KMD is probably town as well.

SUMMARY: MOI LYNCH IS NEEDED ASAP. THEN LMP. THOSE TWO ARE SCUMBUDDYZ4LYFE.


p.s. Let me know if the bulletpoints are easy or hard to read, thanks.

[Katsuki]

Overall comments.

[Katsuki]

And here I thought was the point of distancing.

I had not noticed that this game has no deadlines. This shall be interesting.

As for why MOI over LMP, I feel more sure about MOI.

[Katsuki]

Katsuki trying to downplay UT's list is fascinating.

You know what else is fascinating? Both your votes being on UT, and both claiming that UT lynch will reveal info about the other.

[Katsuki]

You know who I'd love to hear from?

UT.

[Katsuki]

...
I want my MOI lynch, but LMP JUST WON'T GIVE UP.

MUST.
RESIST.
TEMPTATIONS!

[Katsuki]

Whaddya know, I saw bv post earlier today, yet he is avoiding this game like the plague.

Tally I miss you.

Comments later.

[Katsuki]

It's nice to see you paying attention...

*cough*

[Katsuki]

/prod received

On my way onto plane, will comment soon hopefully.

[Katsuki]

Aha I forgot about this game...

Not sure what to think anymore. Fine with either MOI, LMP or rajr lynch.

If anything I think LMP is just dancing around doing nothing.

Unvote, Vote: LMP

[Katsuki]

Oh he is L1.

I'll drop the hammer later today. Want to fit a few more comments in before if possible.

[Katsuki]

K I'm sleeping and never got around to posting, BLEH.

and MOI, yes, I was most definately scum-avoiding this thread.
Did you honestly expect to get a meaningful answer out of that useless question (and fake pressuring)?

Unvote, Vote: RAJR

[Katsuki]

No I do not bookmark games I'm in.
What is bookmarking anyways?

I'm also highly regretting my rajr hammer right here, MOI was the correct lynch for today.

[Katsuki]

Vote: MOI

[Katsuki]

and MOI, yes, I was most definately scum-avoiding this thread.
Did you honestly expect to get a meaningful answer out of that useless question (and fake pressuring)?

Unvote, Vote: RAJR

I thought you might try to provide an explanation as to how you 'mystically' forgot this game. You know, since you are uber-active all over the site.

Do you not bookmark the games you are in?

But instead of responding with reasons you play the sarcastic, useless fool.

Congrats.

This post told me all I needed to know about MOI alignment, and it also did not give me good vibes about my hammer.

Essentially, this is a post town-MOI would NEVER make. If my gut is 100% in finding non-town fate, I'm sure it's just as accurate with you.

[Katsuki]

No time to comment today sorry guys.

[Katsuki]

LMP and MOI are obvbuddies.

I love how all the MOI vs LMP hate completely dissipated.

Larger wagon is go, and no one seems to like MOI like I do.

Unvote, Vote: LMP

[Katsuki]

what do you think of moi and lmp charter?

[Katsuki]

Oh shit wrong game, lemme retype that.

What do you think of MOI and LMP, Charter?

[Katsuki]

/prodded

Black Swan has my nerves in tatters at the moment. Too tired now, stuff probably tomorrow.

[Katsuki]

Reading through thread later today, lots to catch up on.

[Katsuki]

I'm saying I'm here, and will look through the thread. Just not in the immediate present (ala, will do so a few hours from now).

[Katsuki]

On pg13 right now.

Just saying that LMP and MOI are obvbuddies.

And MOI's case on me thus far has been virtually

"Kat is playing like how Kat always plays hence Kat scum"

.

[Katsuki]

LMP and MOI are obvbuddies.

I love how all the MOI vs LMP hate completely dissipated.

This is the best you can do as to content?

Why are we obv-buddies?

Explain for once in your Mafia career!

What "MoI vs LMP hate" are you talking about?

It must be tough being scum in a game, being identified as such, and not having any of your ‘crew’ around to support you.

MORE KATS VOTES PLEASE!

The above bolded statement is a gem. He's called me scum this game for not explaining certain stuff, yet comes out with this statement?
MOI knows that I've been playing like how I always play, yet he keeps going on about how what I've been doing this game is an unique occurance.
Pushing the easy lynch is MOI.

[Katsuki]

Presumably you did think it would go at least some way toward making you look town, or why do it? I think it's a mildly protown sign, because it is

possible

the scum don't have safeclaims, or have fewer safeclaims than members. It just isn't close to being conclusive, and I don't think it balances out ridiculously scummy play and a VT claim.

Preview edit: Yeah, maybe it would have been clearer had I said 'acknowledge' rather than 'accept.'

Just saying, scum probably have fakeclaims. Kdub gave them in his last game.

[Katsuki]

@Katsuki: Where in 92 do you explain why MoI is scummier than LMP? There are points specific to LMP, and points again both MoI and LMP, but where are the points about just Moi?

I may have been jumping the gun a bit, but looking at that exchange, I was fairly certain about LMP scum, which further supported my MOI read. Basically in my eyes, LMP scum meant for sure MOI scum.

@Katsuki again: Can you explain your super secret awesome scumtell in 258?? You didn't say anything specific when you regretted your hammer, when you voted MoI the next day, or when you made that post. So how would a town MoI write that post differently, or what about that post is scum MoI talking?

Looking back, I don't remember exactly what it was about that post that had my mind screaming MOI-scum. I will let you know if I can remember why.

[Katsuki]

Will keep reading this game some other time. Almost done pg14.

Tally is giving me funny feelings. Will look into that as well.

[Katsuki]

So you expect someone to have a specific meta on you? That's not really how it works, especially if the person doesn't like metas as a tell, but that's something Mags can answer definitively here.

It's not so much meta as it is my playstyle; basically how I've played every game on site. MOI has played/modded with me a lot before, and his entire case is pretty much BS for reasons I stated a few posts ago.

As for D1, I still think MOI. Though in my mind, MOI and LMP were both pretty much even.

[Katsuki]

I think the most important thing here is that the chances of both wagons being town is almost 0%.

I am in class now, though I probably will not have time to answer stuff today.

[Katsuki]

I did not see a hammer claim just saying.

[Katsuki]

Wow... that UT hammer.
Oh hi there nice of you to pop up MOI.

Vote: MOI

Fine with either a MOI or UT lynch.

Will re-analyze game sometime.

Interesting to note that the scum most likely have no NK (unless they got prevented consecutive nights).

[Katsuki]

Yes, your point?

I'm criticizing the timing of your hammer. Town-flip supports my thought.

Actually,

Unvote, Vote: UT

MOI can come later.

[Katsuki]

2. How is his opinion that I’m ignoring meta-evidence valid at all when the meta we share shows him being tagged as scum by me?

I'd like a clarification from Kat on this. As far as I can make out, Kat is alleging that you are attacking him for types of behaviour you know full well are typical of him as town. I see later on that you are basically claiming that most of your meta on him is a scum game.

I was town in Magicians Mafia, although MOI died N0, he followed the game.

I normally hate to play the meta card, but skim my completed games if you guys want.
I don't get why MOI keeps pushing LOTR mafia, as I practically claimed scum in that game (and there was a whole discussion in dead QT about my terribad play). If he has reasons to connect my play here with there, I would love to hear it.

[Katsuki]

@MOD: Fix quotetags?

Done.

[Katsuki]

So your point with LOTR mafia is that you read me as scum (which everyone and their granny did) there, and hence believe you have read me properly here?

As I say again, please explain how it connects to this game. If your only reasoning is

"I, along with everyone else, indentified you as scum in that game hence I can read you here"

, then it really isn't evidence at all.

I was town in Magicians Mafia, although MOI died N0, he followed the game.

No, I didn’t ‘follow the game’. I read the Dead QT and occasionally looked at the thread to see who died or to reference specific posts that cropped up in the Dead QT.

Please don’t try to say I carefully read through a Large Themed Game to scum-hunt when I died N0.

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/UHZfLdKE9Hu proves otherwise.

MOI QT #40, #46, #51, #53, #56, #63 all show that you are actively reading and keeping up with the game. If this isn't "following the game", I don't know what is.
Oh hey, you know what else is a gem? You calling me scum in this game as well (from the dead QT).

[Katsuki]

No, those were specific posts by you based on game-related content.
And they were not responses to any dead QT posts.

[Katsuki]

For the record, the mod-abandoned game MOI is referring to was my first ever game of online mafia.

I've already learned that running around like a headless chicken is not particularly effective. (Although, I tunneled scum all game).

[Katsuki]

No, those were specific posts by you based on game-related content.
And they were not responses to any dead QT posts.

No, they were. Repeating things over and over don't make them true.

I love how one of the posts highlighted as evidence wasn't even made by me but you ignore that fact.

I like how you are straight up lying.

[Katsuki]

There's also the information we'll get,

plus not having to deal with Kats at a potential lylo sitation would be nice.

This is a terrible reason to lynch considering there have not been any scum flips thus far.

VT, Babu Bhatt

[Katsuki]

This game.

Lynch MOI for me tomorrow guys. He is scum.

Not sure about any of my other reads. Fonz is most likely town.

[Katsuki]

But you are scum and that's an excellent reason to lynch.

Vote: Katsuki

But that is a very poor reason to quicklynch.

[Katsuki]

BUT SERIOUSLY, I KNOW MY WORDS PROBABLY WON'T STICK, BUT TRUST ME ON MY MOI READ, TOWN!

GOOD LUCK.

[Katsuki]

BUT SERIOUSLY, I KNOW MY WORDS PROBABLY WON'T STICK, BUT TRUST ME ON MY MOI READ, TOWN!

GOOD LUCK.

[Katsuki]

This game.

Lynch MOI for me tomorrow guys. He is scum.

That's a great idea, lynching the guy who's been making the most sense this entire game.

I'll get right on that*.

I'm also not regretting my Katsuki hammer right here, you were the correct lynch for today.

*I will not actually get on that.

When does MOI NOT make sense on the surface?

I'd love to call Haschel scum, but that'd be too OMGUS'y

[Katsuki]

Wow fuck my reads were totally off...

gg scum.

Sorry MOI.

Looking back, Charter's push on MOI was pretty bad. I thought it was bussing at worst though, and never gave it a thought again.

[Katsuki]

Fonz analyzing my play perfectly had me thinking him as town... OFC this was helped by MOI-scumread as well.

Bah.

[Katsuki]

/pre-in if you run that game.