Mini 1044: Lie to Me Mafia - Game Over

[Tazaro]

/Confirm

[Tazaro]

/confirm. Are we allowed to talk theory in this thread pre-game or not?

Even if you are unsure, take a chance.

[Tazaro]

I believe the only hold-out is GhostWriter, who has busyness or such things. Starting of adventures will be soon!

[Tazaro]

I believe the only hold-out is GhostWriter, who has busyness or such things. Starting of adventures will be soon!

Actually, GhostWriter's internet capability is limited right now.

[Tazaro]

The "without," does that word apply to "a series of questions" or just to "any content"? I.e., are you proposing a question stage?

[Tazaro]

I just feel a need to post in each of my threads today. The other threads I posted with content, this post is to get this thread toward the top of my Threads I've Posted In.

[Tazaro]

Yay, Stef returned!

[Tazaro]

o It's either GM -5 or GM -4. I live in Florida.
o I started mafia in July. Yep.
o I love being devious; I love being a mafia goon, and Godfather is even cooler.
o As town, I may vote hop unless my mind is oriented properly and am very paranoid at times, and as scum I tend to vote hop less and probably tunnel.
o Not really. But, Lie to Me is as good as any theme I'm not familiar with.
o I like to be scum because I don't have to worry about scumhunting, I just have to find a place to park my vote and try to seem reasonable.

[Tazaro]

VOTE: Tazaro

[Tazaro]

If you're going to cast a silly vote, I'm going to cast a silly vote, too.

Vote: CryMeARiver

I can't see behind you; that big head is in the way.

[Tazaro]

But you don't think that the role someone receives would influence the answer to that question?

My favorite role is not caused by the role I am in this game. Favorite role and role in this game are disjoint entities.

[Tazaro]

Why am I scum?

[Tazaro]

Why am I scum?

No reason. I just had to get the ball rolling with some tunneling.

Now, as to why Tasky seriously is scum.

Look at how Tasky answered the questions. The first five (minus the timezone) are all answered in the same style: "answer, some detail." The last question is simply answered in one word (and in all caps to make sure we're all convinced of it). The styles of answering the question changed from when he was probably telling the truth to the last question; he's lying.

Overanalyis much?

[Tazaro]

I'm not the most prolific poster in this thread
GUYS, TASKY is bandwagonned pretty often from what I've seen.
Crummy Tasky votes. There's lynch on his wagon. Guaran-damn-tee it.

[Tazaro]

ebwop: lynch, read that word as "scum." Either way you look at it, Tasky's bandwagon involves the right lynch candidate!

[Tazaro]

*Regaining my most prolific poster title.*

What do you mean by Vague neutrality? Also, why is SoW's vote so terrible? It seems like a "you're not doing what we want so i vote you" type vote, which could feasibly be used by a town player trying to push a specific strategy.

SOW's vote IS terrible. In fact, he's my scumpick. Either way you look at it, SOW either played a crummy vote on Tasky due to being scum or needs to be pressured to take it off of Tasky. I for one see scumminess as a very viable possibility.

Shepherd of Wolves

[Tazaro]

F***

Vote: Shepherd of Wolves

[Tazaro]

I guess I should say this if you want me to, Tasky: I'm town aligned.

[Tazaro]

The SoW wagon is tainted by Tazaro's prescence.

Why?

[Tazaro]

Too many claims could have a possible affect as to if the statement can be read by a "lie detector".

Why do you care so much about the lie detector, as long as you don't lie, right?

[Tazaro]

an add-on to the previous statement: ... as long as you don't lie, you don't die after a lie detection result, right?

[Tazaro]

an add-on to the previous statement: ... as long as you don't lie, you don't die after a lie detection result, right?

this statement is weird to me

I have never heard of anyone dying as a result of a lie detector

Yo, I was talking about the scenario in which a lie-detection result, from whoever is the lie-detector role, is revealed, and reveals that someone lied, and CONSEQUENTLY a person being lynched as a result of the reveal.

[Tazaro]

Tazaro, is Tasky town? Yes or no please.
Who are the scum who have voted for Tasky? Pick me two names.
Are you town-aligned?
Should I hold off on my shot, or should I take it based on responses to my questions?
Should I declare who I'm going to shoot before shooting them, to give them a chance to defend themselves? Why/Why not?

1. No
2. Zerofang, Shepherd of Wolves.
3. Yes.
4. Go for it. Shoot whomever is suspicious.
5. Declare who it'll be. More info from reactions is good.

[Tazaro]

Tazaro, Why have you ignored my case on you? Are my reasons implying the correct interpretation of your character?

I can state that I'm a bad player. That's my counterargument.

[Tazaro]

o As town, I may vote hop unless my mind is oriented properly and am very paranoid at times, and as scum I tend to vote hop less and probably tunnel.
o I like to be scum because I don't have to worry about scumhunting, I just have to find a place to park my vote and try to seem reasonable.

He really has not attempted to scum hunt. He has only tried to "seem reasonable". And, he has not vote hopped much (like he said would happen as town). He is more tunneling (like he said would happen as scum).

My way I'm playing as town this game may be different, but it's a matter of me being calmer this time around and not jumping on every scumtell I perceive.

[Tazaro]

Boy, is Shepherd making a career out of attacking or what

[Tazaro]

ebwop: attacking ME or what. <<Nightposting does not guarantee good sentences>>

[Tazaro]

antihero, about Narsis, the only thing I have to say about him is that he mentioned one thing while describing the other things as null.

[Tazaro]

antihero, about Narsis, the only thing I have to say about him is that he mentioned one thing while describing the other things as null.

So I don't particularly see that as scummy

[Tazaro]

Tunneling me HARDCORE is a pretty good reason for me to keep my vote on you.

[Tazaro]

Tunneling me HARDCORE is a pretty good reason for me to keep my vote on you.

LOL are you kidding me? Maybe recently, but he's made a lot of different cases. You just happen to be his latest.

Why are you speaking for him, and who did he make a case on besides Tasky and me.

[Tazaro]

Tazaro

(1) Why do you not address any of my points?
(2) Why were you so intent on me UNVOTING?
(3) Why was pressure to get me to UNVOTE the alternative to me being scum? As you said, He is scum OR we need to pressure him to UNVOTE.
(4) Why are you absolutely not scum hunting? You have not asked any questions. You have not laid down a case on me, were you have your vote.
(5) When can we expect that you will scum hunt?
(6) What bothers you most about my case against you?
(7) Who do you think is the highest lynch candidate for Day 1? And, specify why they should be lynched.

1) I want to do other things besides commentary on a case, but hey, these are concise questions, so here we go...
2) I believe that Tasky's actions are null, so I'm NOT suspicious for pointing out that the votes on him were cruddy and that the votes need to be put to better use. I will also make a point of saying this: it is useless to vote either one of us on the basis of the "buddying-with-each-other-while-being-scumbags" notion since I merely entangled Tasky and me via my comment on Tasky's game play, which is just a matter of him being himself as far as I know.
3) Going with Tasky's actions as meta-consistent, I presented you as either a townie who was wrong, and needed to unvote as a consequence of that, or as a scum who is wrong and lying.
4) Asking questions is not my main thing. I vote when I get suspicious of what I read; I have no intention of making a career of getting other people to agree with me when they are obviously thinking differently than I and are not getting my same reads.
5) From time to time, I play games by winging it. Scumhunting will have to work its way out in my winging.
6) The notion of Tasky and me as buddies. I've played with Tasky before (and made a comment based on that), so it's a shame that that is really what has made the notion start in the first place.
7) highest lynch candidate in terms of lynchability is unknown to me.

[Tazaro]

A better use for votes is to vote for SoW

[Tazaro]

Isn't the highest lynch candidate the person who's most lynchable? But who actually is the most lynchable?

[Tazaro]

DAMN, SHEPHERD IS SO SCUM!!

[Tazaro]

Step back some, SoW, and consider that we (Tasky and I) have played together before, and the knowledge we have of each other by playing with each other in past games is reflected in this game. Why is this less believable than us being a scumpair?

[Tazaro]

Tazaro, is Tasky town? Yes or no please.
Who are the scum who have voted for Tasky? Pick me two names.
Are you town-aligned?
Should I hold off on my shot, or should I take it based on responses to my questions?
Should I declare who I'm going to shoot before shooting them, to give them a chance to defend themselves? Why/Why not?

1. No
2. Zerofang, Shepherd of Wolves.
3. Yes.
4. Go for it. Shoot whomever is suspicious.
5. Declare who it'll be. More info from reactions is good.

That No should be I don't know, but it was Y/N

[Tazaro]

I.e., my Tasky-read is NOT town... But also is NOT mafia.

[Tazaro]

Tasky, here's the clear truth: I am town aligned.

[Tazaro]

What case is there to make? Shepherd's tunneling on me is a heavily-spotlighted brain tumor that is paralyzing others' from acting in an organic way.

[Tazaro]

What case is there to make? Shepherd's tunneling on me is a heavily-spotlighted brain tumor that is paralyzing others' from acting in an organic way.

you seem to have totally missed (or ignored) my entire case on you

That's right .

[Tazaro]

Maybe SoW is just really aggressive??

Unvote

Let's end the brain tumor perhaps??

[Tazaro]

Unvote

Wow, brain tumor's a great analogy.

[Tazaro]

My vote needs a jimfinn to keep it warm

Vote: jimfinn

[Tazaro]

Seriously, my jimmfin vote was a joke post.
Seriously, ZeroFang was one of my scum picks; I agree with CryMeARicer and second this motion:

Unvote

Vote: ZeroFang

[Tazaro]

Seriously, my jimmfin vote was a joke post.
Seriously, ZeroFang was one of my scum picks; I agree with CryMeARicer and second this motion:

Unvote

Vote: ZeroFang

Taz, my opinion of you is changing quickly.

Why Zero?

Zero seemed to being trying to use the momentum of SoW's attack on me.

[Tazaro]

I'm fine with dying. Don't do it though.

[Tazaro]

So, now everyone has claimed town alignment. I have a few questions.

1) are you lying when you claim town? We know at least two of you are, and maybe even Three.
2) Do you know who is lying? We know that you scum know your partners.
3) Do you know who is telling the truth?
4) Why did you claim town alignment?
5) Are you just following suite to claim as "town" because tasky told you to claim as town, and you did for the sole purpose of fulfilling his request?
6) Who are your confirmed townies, and WHY?

1) NO
2) ?? You can be mafia and criticize people's play without lying
3) Everyone tells some truth.
4) Tasky made me do it.
5) Tasky made me do it.
6) No person is a confirmed town.

[Tazaro]

Are we actually in danger of a no lynch?

[Tazaro]

This pushiness of SoW is going to be incriminating I hope. I mean, for pete's sake chill out with your desire to lynch a townie.

Unvote

Vote: Tazaro