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Ok, you guys are all crazy.
Jack-I doubt you are the cop, and claiming that you are, so early in the game is scummy
quintastic one-Although cops investigating townies to prove the inocent can be helpful, investigating mafia is better.
Jack (again)-I do not see why you think that is the setup for this game.
Quintastic one (again)- I don't see why are voting fo sir cyanide, you don't have any real reasons, the only reason you vote for someone is if you think they are scum, not if they do/don't want to play the game.
Sir cyanide-although I disagree with quintastic for voting for you, I do
agree with him that you have no interest in scum hunting. And just saying "nonsence" isn't disproving us it is just arguing.
I willFoS: quintastic one and sir cyanide
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If your talking to me, well you did help ease my suscpicons when you previously posted 76, I am still suspicous of you but my main suspects are Jack and cyanide. But you could tell me what you think of jack vs cyanide.( Jack supposedly hissing behind cyanide and paltry accusing him of it) and whateverthoughts you have on the situation.-
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Ok, You brought up some interesting points, although I believe Jack is scum, I do not want to risk lynching the cop on day 1, and cyanide is also scummy but if he is not mafia then it would be more of an affordable loss because as you put it he is "more of a detriment to the town than Jack"
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Paltryexcuse-I was going to unvote cyanide anyway, I originally voted for him because he was no use to the town whether he is or isn't mafia but he has disproven me of that so I was going to unvote him.
Tqo-I did believe your points and I don't know that Jack is scum, the only people that know who is scum is scum. And can you elaborate more on how I am being manipulated?-
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TQO-what Is the point of hinting at your role if it is "not so powerful", the town will either:
1.not believe you (goes with any power role)
2.not care, if it isn't so powerful then I doubt it will have any effect on the town unless it helps them in some way and based on the description you gave it doesn't.
But you could have a power that you haven't hinted about yet.
And sir cyanide-was that post pointed at me or TQO? And try to calm down-
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sorry about that, Like I said this is my first non newbie game. I realized this soon after posting it and I would of said something about it if I knew that it would be big deal later in the game.I'm not voting because I have 3 suspects, I want to narrow it down farther before I vote, only 2 of my 3 suspects can be scum if that. I want to have more solid information before I vote.
What is the answer to the first question? As in, is it just the perceived cop claim that makes Jack scummy for you?
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I already explained this to TQO, but TQO said that Jack would be very scummy if he was still alive tommorow and someone else died but I was explainig to him that if the mafia targets Jack who the doctor protects and if someone else had a killing role then they might target someone besides Jack. This would leave Jack still alive and someone else dead but he wouldn't be scum.Well, it is possible that we have another killing role
yes I can and I was asking Jack specificallycan you read the thread?-
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sorry, didn't see that part of the post but here is my explaination-
1. It was a fos not a vote
2. it wasn't me believing him, it was Me agreeing with him
3. I disagreed with him on one thing but I agreed with him on something else.
4. If you are refering to my post 213, I said that his logic makes sence (to me anyway) but I didn't believe him, I even said that it might be a scum trick.-
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I don't see why you think that post was scummy, I was not the only one who believed TQO, Jack wrote this-I must say Zang does not look good (for reasons others have stated, but namely his ISO21 stands out as extremely scummy to me), but TQO is really something else. Have nobody of you noticed yet that he has been ignoring me blatantly (my guess is because he is a crybaby)? I would not be surprised if he started ignoring cruelty now after he stated that TQO is 'obvnewb'.
I am unsure of his alignment, but he's definitely the best lynch -for now- (that may change during the day). If we somehow conclude he's town, I would like to suggest that we just keep him in the game as a +1 for the townie side but completely ignore everything he posts.
zhero-can you read? I just said that I don't have much reasoning but basically he gas an agressive play-style, he was the first one for a TQO lynch (which is the easiest lynch)you know, I think I believe TQO.
jacks cop claim@everyone: What do you think is the single most important event/debate/altercation to have taken place so far in the game?-
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First of all I would like to welcome fat_tony, nothing much else happened. But now I will do a case on tbm. This is tbm in ISO-
-argues with Jack about cop investigating town
-votes tqo with no reasoning
-questions jacks setup
-accuses tqo of sounding scummy everytime he posts
-calls tqo "super new"
-Says that tqo has flawed logic
-tells Jack to vote tqo
-accuses tqo of exajerrating
-criticizes tqo for claiming a power role
-says that everytime tqo is questioned he says how obvtown he Is
-Says that tqo had bad logic (again)
-questions tqo
-says that I am scum with logic that I do not understand
-Calls tqo a liar
-accuses tqo of changing his story
-explains his logic for why he said I was scummy
-admits that he was going for the easy lynch (tqo)
-once again he sais that tqo has changed his story and lied multiple times
-criticizes Jack
-once again calls tqo a liar
-misspells my name
-questions paltry
-defends himself against paltry
-sais that cruelty hates day one
he is obssesed with lynching tqo and is desserving of my vote so
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I never said it was a list of scumtells or an analysis I just said that it was tbm in ISO.it was like what tqo did a few pages ago with the whole thread but I just did tbm.TheButtonmen wrote:
So glad to see I was right that Zang's scum.Zang Bold added by TBM wrote: -argues with Jack about cop investigating townFalse, in fact I was the one who said confirmed town is goodok, sorry it's hard telling arguments when I only know what one person said.
-votes tqo with no reasoningFalse, I voted him because of his reaction to pressureyes, but you did not explain that when you wrote it
-questions jacks setupNo crap I questioned his setup, he pulled a setup out of thin air in a closed match.I never said that was a bad thing
-accuses tqo of sounding scummy everytime he postsThats cause he doesI never said he doesn't
-calls tqo "super new"He is super newonce again I never said he wasn't
-Says that tqo has flawed logicHis logic is flawedI never said it wasn't
-tells Jack to vote tqoI'm noticing a trend here, thses aren't scum tellsI never said they were
-accuses tqo of exajerratingIt's not an exageration, he flat out liedok , EDIT-accuses tqo of lieng
-criticizes tqo for claiming a power roleWhy do you think TQO claimed when he did?because that was how he reacted to pressure
-says that everytime tqo is questioned he says how obvtown he Is...Go read TQO's posts He does say that everytime.I never said he didnt
-Says that tqo had bad logic (again)This is a scum tell?I never said they were scum tells
-questions tqoOH NOES!?!!look above
-says that I am scum with logic that I do not understandOMGUS?
-Calls tqo a liarHe did lieI never said he didn't
-accuses tqo of changing his storyHence me calling him a liarI never said you didn't
-explains his logic for why he said I was scummyGo OMGUS!you did do it
-admits that he was going for the easy lynch (tqo)FalseMy mistake
-once again he sais that tqo has changed his story and lied multiple timesBecause he did.I never said he didn't
-criticizes JackWhy so defensive of Jack?I'm not
-once again calls tqo a liarThats what I tend to call people who lieI never dais he wasn't
-misspells my name...Now thats just rediculousISO 29 zhang
-questions paltryGod forbid we question people!you did it
-defends himself against paltry Your scum tells need workI never said it was a scum tell
-sais that cruelty hates day oneAnd here we have proof Zang didn't read the thread?
he is obssesed with lynching tqo and is desserving of my vote so
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Ok, it wasn't really reasoning but me pointing stuff out that you don't know-
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neither, I was pointing out that both tqo and cruelty believed that tbm should be lynched, and I will take 100% blame for my actions. Personaly, I believe that tqo is probably town but I'm not so sure about cruelty.1. either this means you believe 100% in them or you're trying to shift blame off yourself
as I just said I wasn't really giving you reasoning for my vote, just pointing stuff out.You don't hammer people to make other people happy. Best case scenario, you're appeasing misguided townies. What I see more likely is that you're scum trying to get these two people on your good side.
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look above2. so why does this make you want to lynch tbm?
I do not understand what you are sayingSoTHAT'Swhy hardly anybody liked your "case" on him.
3.3. he believed tqo was scum and was hunting him.
yes, he did believe tqo was scum but he was not hunting him, he just kept saying how much a liar tqo was and did not listen to anything else.
look aboveThis is self-contradictory. TheButtonmen either was not scumhunting or accused The Quintastic One of being a liar changing his story. Both cannot be true.
I realized that I changed my vote a lot and I am willing to take full responsibility for my actionsZang changed his votes a ton on day1 and then changed his vote to get the lynch in the end. Nothing has changed to convince me that zang is anything other than scum.-
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bad and scummy? How do I have bad and scummy reasoning?@Zang: Why are you trying to justify your actions with bad, scummy reasoning?
Zang: who is scum?
my top suspects are sir cyanide and Jack. And the tbm misltnch does make tqo look a lot scumier but I think that he might be town, scum would never risk seeming so stupid.To Zang: Since TBM turned up town, who do you believe to be suspicious going into Day 2? I ask you specifically because everyone else seems convinced your lynch worthy, so your perspective is key right now.
it means that I am not dening it and I moved around my vote a lot because they all seemed like they could be scum.@Zang: what does "taking full responsibility for your actions" mean in context? That you admit you moved your vote around a lot, but you don't want to give an explanation for it so we can all suck it?-
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bad and scummy? How do I have bad and scummy reasoning?@Zang: Why are you trying to justify your actions with bad, scummy reasoning?
Zang: who is scum?
my top suspects are sir cyanide and Jack. And the tbm misltnch does make tqo look a lot scumier but I think that he might be town, scum would never risk seeming so stupid.To Zang: Since TBM turned up town, who do you believe to be suspicious going into Day 2? I ask you specifically because everyone else seems convinced your lynch worthy, so your perspective is key right now.
it means that I am not dening it and I moved around my vote a lot because they all seemed like they could be scum.@Zang: what does "taking full responsibility for your actions" mean in context? That you admit you moved your vote around a lot, but you don't want to give an explanation for it so we can all suck it?-
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I know, what I was asking was how my logic seems bad/flawed/scummy.Because scum are bad. QED. Scum also often use bad/flawed logic in their arguments to try and pass off their own agenda as fact, or reasonable.
i will tommorow when I have more timeI think we were looking for reasons as well as names. We're going to need more than we're getting from you right now.
I explained this in post 246AND you said max 2 out of your 3 suspects could be scum (using reasoning I don't quite follow and I don't believe was ever explained)? Dude, weak.-
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sir cyanide-like tqo said he is a douchebag but I think that this makes him scum unlike tqo. If acting like scum is to scummy to be scum than both me and tqo wouldn't be top suspects.
Jack-basically, his biggest mistake was his cop claim, he had no reason for it and I don't think he ever did explain why he did do it.-
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I realized that it was a joke but it was still a big mistakeJack wrote:
Since it's moved beyond the useful now, I'll state the obvious: it was a bit of a joke to get some discussion started. I often do this. The random vote stage annoys me. I very carefullyZang wrote: Jack-basically, his biggest mistake was his cop claim, he had no reason for it and I don't think he ever did explain why he did do it.didn'tclaim cop btw. You can call it a soft claim, but what cop in their right mind soft claims page one? That isn't even wifom.-
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well it is not bad to get discussion started but what was bad was how he did it.Vivi57 wrote:
explain how it was a mistake. He just wanted to get discussion going and he succeeded. Are you trying to say that jack generating discussion is a bad thing?Zang wrote:
I realized that it was a joke but it was still a big mistakeJack wrote:
Since it's moved beyond the useful now, I'll state the obvious: it was a bit of a joke to get some discussion started. I often do this. The random vote stage annoys me. I very carefullyZang wrote: Jack-basically, his biggest mistake was his cop claim, he had no reason for it and I don't think he ever did explain why he did do it.didn'tclaim cop btw. You can call it a soft claim, but what cop in their right mind soft claims page one? That isn't even wifom.(\_/)
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well you have to convince people that you are town, it does not matter if you are or not, that is how the game goes. And if you do not like it then do not play the game.Or at least that's how it should be. Instead as town, you have to constantly fake being a "mafiascum.net townie". Which is precisely what the mafia are trying to fake. So you have to fill the game with power roles to let the town catch the mafia. Because we handicap the town to a huge degree by demanding that the fake it.(\_/)
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mislynches are bad, why do you keep offering yourself for one?do you really think it will help the town?The Quintastic One wrote:To Zang: Beyond Jack I have gut scum read on Strangercoug. Fat Tony is also really suspicious to me. Otherwise I don't know where I should look. Cruelty is just doing what everyone else is doing and shrugging off the claims against him and saying he doesn't know what to think about it. So I guess the main thing that's annoying me right now is that guys like Jack, Cruelty & Yourself can just coast through the arguments presented against you and shrug your shoulders as if you don't know what to think about it and they are getting away with it. In any other mafia game on here any one of you would of been lynched by now for your behavior. Whether I feel it's scummy or not in any circumstance, I feel like the town has given up this game after we lynched TBM and he wasn't scum. We were all so convinced he was guilty yet he wasn't, so I think the town has lost their will to push for anymore lynches. So at this point I'd rather the town lynch me and get the game moving already rather than sit here and act like we're all clueless pretending like we've really went through 21 pages and nobody can think of a target worthy of a majority vote.(\_/)
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why?just because he offered himself for lynch?SIR CYANIDE wrote:
His 'point' proves nothing. He should replace out.Zang wrote:
WowYou might not be scum this game, but you're scum in real life.
and sir c- I doubt he actually wanted to kill himself he probably just said it to prove a point(\_/)
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