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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:27 pm

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vote: FishytheFish

Obvious aquatic mafia with Cobalt and Seacore.
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Post Post #7 (isolation #1) » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:33 pm

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SpyreX did a very good job of picking roles that would suck if scum got them.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #2) » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:53 pm

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Players needed to lynch: 12


SerialClergyman
- 1 - Seacore - (L-11)
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- 3 - Vi, BloodCovenent, Xylthixlm - (L-9)
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- 2 - Dramonic, budja - (L-10)
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- 1 - Pomegranate - (L-11)
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- 1 - devotress - (L-11)
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- 1 - StrangerCoug - (L-11)

Players not voting: Vaya, TonyMontana, SerialClergyman, Plum, FishytheFish, Farside22, Faraday, elvis_knits, drippinggoofball, Cruciare, Cobalt, chamber, Benmage


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Post Post #33 (isolation #3) » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:12 pm

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BC, I've honestly never noticed that before. It wouldnt surprise me though.
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Post Post #71 (isolation #4) » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:03 pm

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I am happy enough with the Seacore wagon for now. Framer should claim, but nobody else.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #5) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:14 am

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Vi wrote:The Seacore wagon isn't awesome though.
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Vi wrote:The Seacore wagon isn't awesome though.
Bah.

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Post Post #147 (isolation #6) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:04 am

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Cobalt wrote:sorry, tm, that was a typo. I meant to
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Post Post #159 (isolation #7) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:16 pm

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chamber wrote:
Cobalt wrote:It was DGB who leveled an incorrect accusation at TM, not the other way around.
DGB wrote:TonyMontana sounds like the mouthpiece for a large scum team.
We already know the scumteams are two groups of three plus an SK. There is no "large scumteam".
And you feel a member of said smaller scumteams would be more likely to forget that the scumteams in this game were small?
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Post Post #163 (isolation #8) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:19 pm

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Plum is obv scum btw
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Post Post #168 (isolation #9) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:55 pm

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Vi wrote:
Xylthixlm 163 wrote:Plum is obv scum btw
*buzz*
Vaya
is obvscum.

One person's voting habits are piquing my interest... and of course I'm not going to tell you whose~
They're both obvscum.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:06 pm

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- 3 - StrangerCoug, chamber, Cruciare - (L-9)
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- 4 - SerialClergyman, FishytheFish, Faraday, Seacore - (L-8)
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- 3 - Xylthixlm, Cobalt, budja - (L-9)
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- 1 - Vi - (L-11)
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- 1 - Dramonic - (L-11)
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- 5 - Pomegranate, elvis_knits, devotress, TonyMontana, Farside22 - (L-7)
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- 2 - drippinggoofball, BloodCovenent - (L-10)

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Post Post #178 (isolation #11) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:12 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Are you assuming that I'm assuming rightly, or wrongly, Xyl?
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Post Post #179 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:16 pm

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EBWOP: I'm assuming that you're
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Post Post #188 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:26 pm

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"Vig don't fire or we kill you" is actually a pretty good tactic in smalltown, where you already know who the vig is. Here? Not so much.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #14) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:28 pm

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elvis_knits wrote:I didn't see it in the rules either if scum can daytalk, but I have been in games before where DGB assumes the scum can daytalk whether she has reason to or not. She likes to tell people to go back to their QT, among other things. I'm thinking of the famed "lynch all lurkers" game, and perhaps others.
Wait. I was in that game. It's where I got all mad and threatened to never play with DGB again after she self-hammered, as I recall.

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Post Post #191 (isolation #15) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:33 pm

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Vi: How exactly do you distinguish between two people who haven't posted at all?
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Post Post #193 (isolation #16) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:35 pm

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farside22 wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
farside22 wrote:Advacating a policy lynch is scummy.
Wait, did I miss a policy lynch? Who are we policy lynching?
Look to Benmage for that. Not me.
Benmage wrote:screw the rvs,
vote chamber
this is a real vote. its called the policy lynch phase. chamber sucks. dgb aint worth a whole lot either..and the new guy seacore may warrant one as well.

feel free to list any more possible policy lynches... i recognized most, and dont see any others, but theres a few i don't know. so let me know....


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Post Post #197 (isolation #17) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:50 pm

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Vi wrote:
Xylthixlm 191 wrote:Vi: How exactly do you distinguish between two people who haven't posted at all?
Player-specific meta and the fact that I know one of them *cough* has been onsite recently.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #18) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:10 pm

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Players needed to lynch: 12


BloodCovenent
- 3 - chamber, Cruciare, FishytheFish - (L-9)
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- 1 - Benmage - (L-11)
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- 3 - SerialClergyman, Faraday, Seacore - (L-9)
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- 2 - Cobalt, budja - (L-10)
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- 1 - Vi - (L-11)
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- 1 - Dramonic - (L-11)
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- 7 - Pomegranate, elvis_knits, devotress, TonyMontana, Farside22, Xylthixlm, StrangerCoug, - (L-5)
TonyMontana
- 2 - drippinggoofball, BloodCovenent - (L-10)

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Faraday wrote:Devotress, Pom and Farside looks scummy while elvis doesn't look town, which is unusual as she's usually a beaming signal of townieness.
elvis not being a beaming signal of townieness is a scumtell.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #19) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:12 pm

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Oh wow. She
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Post Post #205 (isolation #20) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:25 pm

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Cobalt wrote:xyl please try to be less goof
elvis is scum
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Post Post #221 (isolation #21) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:10 pm

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Devotress wrote:@ Dramonic and Blood Covenant: Why hop on a wagon you don't understand the reason for?
What do you think they should be doing instead?
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Post Post #249 (isolation #22) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:18 am

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elvis_knits wrote:cobalt is scum.
Explain.
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Post Post #251 (isolation #23) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:28 am

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Vi wrote:I suspect dramonic isn't scum.
I'm pretty sure Seacore isn't scum.
You must have some amazing meta on dramonic there.
Vi wrote:Cobalt might be scum, but not for the reasons being given out.
Who gave reasons?
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Post Post #256 (isolation #24) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:34 am

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Faraday is town
StrangerCoug is scum
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Post Post #258 (isolation #25) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:37 am

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Seacore is town now
FishytheFish is neutral leaning townish
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Post Post #259 (isolation #26) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:38 am

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Benmage wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Faraday is town
StrangerCoug is scum
Hmm i'm not caught up, but i thought SC was town.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #27) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:46 am

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Benmage wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
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StrangerCoug is scum
Hmm i'm not caught up, but i thought SC was town.
Nope
what makes you say so?
iso reading.
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Post Post #264 (isolation #28) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:48 am

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elvis_knits wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
elvis_knits wrote:cobalt is scum.
Explain.
Repeated attempts to convince us random vigging helps town.
It does, but that's not what he was suggesting.
elvis_knits wrote:While the numbers may suggest that vigging is more likely to hit scum than a scum kill (since they aren't aiming at themselves)...

Vigging still should not be done "randomly"

That is just setting up the vig so he can shoot at ANYONE and not have to have a good reason. ie... scum vig can shoot at people who look town and just say "lol random kills r good fur town lol."
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Post Post #269 (isolation #29) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:09 am

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More elvis votes please
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Post Post #284 (isolation #30) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:25 am

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Budja wrote:Cobalt isn't scum.

unvote

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Post Post #286 (isolation #31) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:31 am

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Budja wrote:Well, I have played with dramonic too and this behaviour isn't too far-fetched for him to do but I still think he deserves a vote.
More than elvis does?
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Post Post #309 (isolation #32) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:07 pm

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Meh.

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Post Post #314 (isolation #33) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:17 pm

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BloodCovenent wrote:I'll answer why I was vote hoping around in a minute, but first is spreading pressure around really a scumtell?
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Post Post #318 (isolation #34) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:22 pm

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Budja wrote:Yeah, I can't see anything vote-worthy with Elvis TBH.

FoS Dram, BC
, seriously guys, that's ok in the RVS but not now.
Budja wrote:Cobalt isn't scum.

unvote

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Post Post #322 (isolation #35) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:27 pm

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BloodCovenent wrote:And no, I didn't realize that vote-hoping was actually a scum tell, from what I viewed it as, was nothing more than trying to start discussion, of course I had somewhat expected to be pressured before there was a wagon + claim of someone else.
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Post Post #324 (isolation #36) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:29 pm

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I'm going to be very sad if elvis and DGB are both scum this game and I'm not scum with them.
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Post Post #367 (isolation #37) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:28 pm

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Seacore is town. Bad wagon is bad.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #38) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:17 pm

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- 5 - TonyMontana, Farside22, elvis_knits, Cobalt, FishytheFish - (L-7)

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Seacore wrote:I don't like Dramonic, Cobalt, EK or Budja, but I also don't like BC... so many options, I think I'll keep mine where its at until next week.
Why Cobalt?
Budja wrote:The case on EK mostly sucks but her reaction didn't feel very townie and I disliked the Cobalt attack. I'm believing the claim now.
Nice waffling. Which is it? Scumpoint for Budja.
Seacore wrote:So either you [Budja] voted for me because of my bad idea, which means you lied in your voting post, or you voted for me because of earlier cases, in which case you just lied in the above post.
Maybe he did both? Maybe he forgot why?
dramonic wrote:How am I suppose to get a reread done when every time I turn aside 5 pages pop up?
Read faster.
benmage wrote:Amongst those 4 fast unvoters is definitely scum.
Yay for content-free predictions. Scumpoint for benmage.
TonyMontana wrote:Dgb is town.
I really have trouble reading DGB. She's so... goofy.
TonyMontana wrote:Someone, i forget who, articulated perfectly why lynching a claimed cop on day 1 in this game is bad.
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Cruciare wrote:IGMEOY: Seacore, Blood, Cobalt, Pom, Xyl. Plus Coug and Farside for nonsense on the Seacore wagon back then.
Why? For all of them.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #39) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:47 pm

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Cruciare wrote:Why did you wagon Elvis in the first place if you were going to hop off like that once she claimed? What else did you think she would claim?
Because she's scum, and because it's good play to get a couple of results from a claimed info role before we lynch her. She can still help us find the second scum faction even if she's scum cop.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #40) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:03 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Vi wrote:
DrippingGoofball 418 wrote:Are you guys aware that Cobalt is first in the draft order?
Yes. Are you suggesting that we should not
*wagon
*suspect
*otherwise pressure
people who are high on the draft order?
Not at all - but I don't people to say "oh shucks I didn't notice!" That's why I am asking whether they are AWARE.

After we have gone after #2 to the claim, now some people are pushing for #1. Just making sure it's all clear.
Hmmm....
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Vi wrote:...there's nothing that says the Cop must be Town, the outburst seemed Townish enough for me to not call fake.
That is true.

However.

There are strategic reasons for the scum to pressure the players at the top of the order, first.

Furthermore if I was buddies with elvis, I sure wouldn't bus her, because that would bring our wild pyjama party in the QT to a sad and premature close. Some of you may interpret this as WIFOM, and that I might have been in fact bus'ing elvis, so be it.

The reality is that elvis would not be a top choice of her buddies to bus. ESPECIALLY if scum, at the top of the order. She'd be way too useful. Yeah, WIFOM. But I doubt it in this instance.

However a townie at the top of the order is an excellent wagon to pursue and get a free claim from.

Thus I think this wagon had lots of scum on it. They had to figure that a player at the top of the order would have a claim they could extract, escape a lynch, without getting their hands dirty in an actual lynch.
So... you're not against voting/wagoning/pressuring people high in the order... but you do think that people who do so are more likely to be scum? Have I got that right?

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Post Post #434 (isolation #41) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:07 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:So... you're not against voting/wagoning/pressuring people high in the order... but you do think that people who do so are more likely to be scum? Have I got that right?
Absolutely. There is no contradiction.
Even your eggnog-filled brain should be able to predict the result of arguing that voting people high in the order is a scumtell.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #42) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:09 pm

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And remember: DrippingGoofball is a piñata. When you break her open she's full of yummy candy.
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Post Post #451 (isolation #43) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:34 am

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Budja wrote:
Xyl wrote:Which is it?
I think EK's cop outburst was townish. (I will admit my opinions are flipflopping a bit ATM)
Your opinions are flipflopping in the middle of a sentence?
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Post Post #452 (isolation #44) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:37 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Vi wrote:Okay, derail over, commence lynching Budja/Coug/Xylthixlm/Devotress/Vaya/maybe SerialClergyman and BloodCovenant/etc.

That is a most excellent list. I'm not seeing Vaya-scum here, but I am not getting townie vibes from anyone else in that accursed group.
Really. Vaya had
zero posts
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Post Post #454 (isolation #45) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:49 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:I am not getting townie vibes from anyone
else
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Oh, so your fingers slipped and you accidentally typed "else" when you really meant that you weren't getting townie vibes from anyone in that group.
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Post Post #457 (isolation #46) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:54 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:No, I meant that for
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Post Post #462 (isolation #47) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:09 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:I'm not seeing Vaya-scum here,
but
I am not getting townie vibes from anyone else in that accursed group.
DrippingGoofball wrote:I got nothing from Vaya,
and
from the rest, I am not getting townie vibes.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #48) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:24 am

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This is the point where I give up trying to tell the difference between DGB-scum and DGB-crazy, and just lynch her.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:14 am

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Hey elvis, do you remember in /in-vitational 4 where everyone I accused of being scum all jumped onto my wagon?
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Post Post #474 (isolation #50) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:17 am

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Budja needs to vote me too, then I'll have the complete set.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #51) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:21 am

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chamber wrote:I still like elvis as scum but maybe she'll be cross-killed

Unvote Vote BloodCovenent


He still smells like scum.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:31 am

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elvis_knits wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Hey elvis, do you remember in /in-vitational 4 where everyone I accused of being scum all jumped onto my wagon?
Hey Xyl why you so freaked about dgb voting you?
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Post Post #492 (isolation #53) » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:50 am

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Budja wrote:I agree with DGB 421/422. I disagree with Xyl.
Hmm, is my grasp of conversational implicature broken?

Oh wait that's Budja. Carry on.
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Post Post #513 (isolation #54) » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:32 pm

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Seacore wrote:It's also interesting that Cruc left Vi and Elvis off the star list, (and added StrangerCoug, but that bit's not that interesting)
StrangerCoug is scum. But elvis is also scum, so ... yeah.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #55) » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:34 pm

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Seacore wrote:
Plum wrote: All the wagons on players I find scummy are populated by scummish or shady players and all the players I feel are town are on wagons I wouldn't want to vote ('cept BC, but he's not a top-tier scumpick).
I don't think wagons with probable scum on them are necessarily bad, remembering that they are also scum hunting (and scum hunting significantly more info than us)
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Post Post #522 (isolation #56) » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:11 pm

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DeathNote wrote:
Vote: Cobolt


Notice I said Cobolt and not Cobalt. Meant to be a "I don't care what you think of me," vote.
You're not actually supposed to put that part in your post.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #57) » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:32 pm

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Vi, what's your current take on dramonic?
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Post Post #536 (isolation #58) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:21 am

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unvote, vote StrangerCoug
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Post Post #552 (isolation #59) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:45 am

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StrangerCoug - 2 - Xylthixlm, Vi - (L-10)

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Post Post #554 (isolation #60) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:48 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
DeathNote wrote:Was it ever explained why Xyl thought Plum was scum?
Xyl is scum, he's pretending he can't "read" me. And voting me because he allegedly can't read me. And making twee wording cases like he's on to something.
I can read you perfectly. You're always scum.
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Post Post #558 (isolation #61) » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:09 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:Faraday is town
StrangerCoug is scum
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StrangerCoug wrote:I don't get it. You think elvis_knits getting bandwagonned will make her change her avatar? That's not a very logical way of doing things.

Vote: dramonic
StrangerCoug wrote: I'd FoS you, but you've claimed cop and I'm not going to question it right now.
StrangerCoug wrote:Scum reads on dramonic, Cruciare, and to some extent Cobalt right now. I'll go ahead and accept elvis_knits as town for now. Neutral or no read on everybody else. Seriously, you guys post like mad.
StrangerCoug wrote:It comes off as if dramonic thinks EK is scum because of the avatar
StrangerCoug wrote:Now I'm leaning DGB-scum from the OMGUS in #470. I don't see the case on dramonic at all.
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Post Post #597 (isolation #63) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:05 am

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Benmage is right.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #64) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:12 am

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 12


Benmage
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- 5 - Pomegranate, Seacore, chamber, FishytheFish, budja - (L-7)
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- 2 - SerialClergyman, Haylen - (L-10)
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- 2 - TonyMontana, Farside22 - (L-10)
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- 6 - Xylthixlm, Vi, elvis_knits, devotress, drippinggoofball, BloodCovenent - (L-6)
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Players not voting: Benmage

Cobalt wrote:you require that elvis target scum (a 35% chance if town, 18% if scum) or be lynched, then also require that the doc NOT protect her? The odds of doc being scum with her are quite low. But the odds of either of them being town are 68%. You are setting up lynches on POWER ROLES based on nightactions and not posting. Awful, just awful.
Check your math, the odds of elvis_knits being town is closer to 0%.
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Post Post #605 (isolation #65) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:30 am

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Benmage wrote:Wooot. I'm caught up. I did it pretty quickly...i might have to relook up certain issues if i dont know what people are talking about.

Anywhose, any questions for me?
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Benmage wrote:Hes town.
Why?
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StrangerCoug wrote:You're also telling the scum not to kill elvis_knits because they will have a free lynch tomorrow that way. Do you know how damaging to the town that is?
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Also,
StrangerCoug wrote:You're also telling the scum not to kill
the cop
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StrangerCoug wrote:She has to guess scum right. Even if she's town
That's your problem right there. elvis isn't town.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #70) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:44 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:Does the wording matter? Nobody's countering her.
He's telling scum
not to kill the cop
and you think this is a
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Post Post #634 (isolation #71) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:41 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:Does the wording matter? Nobody's countering her.
He's telling scum
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and you think this is a
bad idea
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You took this out of context. Benmage is not allowing for the possibility that she is town.
Darn tootin'. She would have been lynched already if she hadn't claimed cop. We are not leaving her alive because we think she might be town, we are leaving her alive because
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Post Post #638 (isolation #72) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:55 pm

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I was going to compare SC's response now against his position on the elvis_wagon earlier but it turns out he never even mentioned elvis_knits until after her claim.

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Post Post #665 (isolation #73) » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:57 am

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Vi wrote:elvis_knits (291) -
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Post Post #667 (isolation #74) » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:59 am

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You're missing Faraday's vote on StrangerCoug, and at least one vote at the height of the elvis_wagon...
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Post Post #691 (isolation #75) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:46 am

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OK.

Elvis is still alive.

I'm alive.

I was right about Plum.

elvis is still scum.

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Post Post #703 (isolation #76) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:17 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Looks like distancing to me.
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Post Post #704 (isolation #77) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:21 am

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Devotress wrote:
Cobalt wrote:tried to vig devotress.
Gee it's nice to know you care.

If you were roleblocked that means the roleblocker didn't go for the cop though, which is worrysome because why wouldn't roleblocker want to stop the cop. I'm hoping you were jailed and not roleblocked.
Unless of course someone pro town nabbed the roleblock power.

I'm waiting on the results of EK's investigation before I vote for her.
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Post Post #705 (isolation #78) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:22 am

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Cobalt wrote:tried to vig devotress. I was either blocked or devo was bussed.
Don't forget bulletproof.
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Post Post #707 (isolation #79) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:23 am

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Cobalt wrote:Well, that is why I tried to vig her. You know, the whole being mafia thing.
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Post Post #712 (isolation #80) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:52 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
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Cobalt wrote:tried to vig devotress. I was either blocked or devo was bussed.
Don't forget bulletproof.
Devotress, being 22nd in the draft order, Bulletproof.

Hahahahahhahahahh hahahhah aha hahahhah

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Post Post #715 (isolation #81) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:56 am

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Cobalt wrote:town wouldn't pick empowerer, imo, they'd be too scared of boosting a scum kill.
but bulletproof is a cool role, I almost grabbed it.
I would've taken driver over bulletproof.
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Post Post #718 (isolation #82) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:07 pm

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Cobalt and Faraday are town.
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Post Post #719 (isolation #83) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:10 pm

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I have a theory that whoever was on the SC wagon, but not the elvis wagon, is scum with elvis. Let's see.
Vi wrote:Let's try that again.

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Post Post #761 (isolation #84) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:52 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
Cobalt wrote:town wouldn't pick empowerer, imo, they'd be too scared of boosting a scum kill.
but bulletproof is a cool role, I almost grabbed it.
I would've taken driver over bulletproof.
And since I get myself NK'd all the time, I would really like bulletproof - or something similar.

So.

Devotress isn't bulletproof.
Okay... so devotress isn't bulletproof, but DGB
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Post Post #763 (isolation #85) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:01 pm

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Not feeling scum from serialclergyman. I'd much rather lynch elvis.
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Post Post #765 (isolation #86) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:00 pm

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Cobalt wrote:Without results?
Getting results first would be nice, but if she refuses that's hardly going to stop me from lynching her.
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Post Post #804 (isolation #87) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:32 pm

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BloodCovenent wrote:^ this. Didn't randomization tests suggest that low draft picks could indeed receive power roles? Was it you Xyl that suggested that in the sign up thread?
No, but a quick calculation says that with random picks people near the bottom of the order still have about a 20% chance of getting a power role. If you can guess what's likely to be picked high it's probably even better.
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Post Post #809 (isolation #88) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:49 pm

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Fishythefish wrote:If I was 100% certain elvis was scum, it would be a tough decision.
elvis is scum,
or
she has completely changed her town playstyle to be nothing like her normal town playstyle but exactly like her scum playstyle. One or the other.
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Post Post #823 (isolation #89) » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:03 am

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Cruciare wrote:Xyl is still scummy, moreso with his obsession of lynching the
scummiest player
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Post Post #824 (isolation #90) » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:07 am

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farside22 wrote:
Cobalt wrote:
cobalt post 252: What do you think of those who use meta to form a case on a player?
meta can't be a case, it can only support a case.
Post 585 colbat: Where did devotess say such a thing?
I was joshin'.
I don't believe meta is the end all and be all. That is why I find the EK votes rediculous. I always say if I play with someone I know and they know my town meta then as scum it's easy to act that way so people think I'm town. I don't see why meta is used as a primary case and so far I haven't seen anything to suggest EK as scum that was relavant to her actions in the game.
Let's just say that I have a very good read on EK, because she is
very bad
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Post Post #826 (isolation #91) » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:20 am

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farside wrote:Xyl: post 597 WHAT!!!! WHY AND HOW IS THIS LOGICAL?
Because EK is scum, and it would be really nice if the other scumteam kills her, and really bad if the doc stops the other scumteam from killing her.
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Post Post #827 (isolation #92) » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:33 am

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I'll also take a DGB, Devotress, or FishytheFish lynch if everyone is too blinded by the OMG COP CLAIM! to lynch the obvscum.
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Post Post #840 (isolation #93) » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:11 pm

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Budja! I knew I was forgetting a scummy player.
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Post Post #841 (isolation #94) » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:14 pm

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farside wrote:I mean really are you so hungry to lynch a
mafia cop
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Post Post #845 (isolation #95) » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:39 pm

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farside22 wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
farside wrote:I mean really are you so hungry to lynch a
mafia cop
?
Fixed.
I'm just saying focasing on lynching a
scum
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Absurded.

Are you really saying that we should never lynch anyone who was high enough in the draft to get a useful power role?
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Post Post #850 (isolation #96) » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:47 pm

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 10


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- 4 - Xylthixlm, Benmage, Seacore, drippinggoofball - (L-6)
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- 1 - devotress - (L-9)

Players not voting: Benmage, chamber, Cruciare, Dramonic, elvis_knits, FishytheFish, TonyMontana, Vaya
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Are you really saying that we should never lynch anyone who was high enough in the draft to get a useful power role?
No I'm saying I'm not voting a claim cop based on meta talk.
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Post Post #851 (isolation #97) » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:53 pm

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Faraday wrote:And scum don't have any sort of set pattern, they can all be on a wagon (One of the latest in-vitationals comes to mind here)
That would be the one where all the mafia joined a horrible, horrible wagon on me and managed to get me lynched. I even pointed out most of the scum on my wagon and people said that I was OMGUSing (by precognition apparently, since I started before the wagon formed). Town won that.

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Faraday, if you ignore DGB she doesn't go away, but at least you're ignoring her.
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budja
- 1 - BloodCovenent - (L-9)
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- 5 - SerialClergyman, DeathNote, Farside22, Cobalt, TonyMontana - (L-5)
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- 1 - drippinggoofball - (L-9)
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Post Post #901 (isolation #100) » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:52 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Though I haven't claimed, a player suspected of being Bulletproof is going to be top priority for both scumgroups to eliminate during the Day cycle.
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Post Post #903 (isolation #101) » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:56 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:On the Xyl kerfuffle, all I'm going to say is that he tried to put words in my mouth that I never said.
Words that you never said
or implied
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Post Post #906 (isolation #102) » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:22 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Elvis is totally different from her town self here, and even after being called out on it, she's still not making an effort. This is the a symptom of the CAUGHT SCUM SYNDROME.
DrippingGoofball wrote:Why are you so insistent on an elvis lynch?
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Post Post #909 (isolation #103) » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:50 am

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DGB, do you want to lynch elvis or not?
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Post Post #918 (isolation #104) » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:33 am

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farside, it's pretty clear elvis means TM's vote on the StrangerCoug (not "SC" please) lynch.
TonyMontana wrote:
Unvote
Vote StrangerCoug (L-1)


Claim time.
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farside:
elvis_knits wrote:I investigated TM because I thought he might have been part of a scum-engineered simulpost quicklynch.
TM was one of the people who L-1/hammered StrangerCoug before he claimed.
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Post Post #926 (isolation #106) » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:41 am

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farside22 wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:farside:
elvis_knits wrote:I investigated TM because I thought he might have been part of a scum-engineered simulpost quicklynch.
TM was one of the people who L-1/hammered StrangerCoug before he claimed.
This assume's that mafia day talks???
Yes. I dinged DGB for that earlier, now elvis is doing it too.
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Post Post #927 (isolation #107) » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:43 am

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DGB's response to my ding was a masterpiece of eggnogthink btw:
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Xylthixlm wrote:What do you think about DGB's assumption that the scum are talking?
Well, were they talking? If I'm assuming that they are, WRONGLY, what does it mean? If I'm correct, maybe I read the rules? OK unlikely, I never read rules and I didn't this time either). If I'm CORRECT (without having read the rules, admittedly!), maybe TonyMontana gave himself away
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Are you assuming that I'm assuming rightly, or wrongly, Xyl? Because regardless of the answer, it means that YOU know something I don't. Get it? Disingenuous.
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Post Post #930 (isolation #108) » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:53 am

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elvis_knits wrote:I already told you how I thought daytalking was likely because I was almost "accidentally" lynched and then StrangerCoug was also. That's a bit too much for everything to be truly accidental.
You're putting a lot of credit in something that almost never actually happens. Coordinating a quicklynch as scum is painful in the best of circumstances.
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Post Post #960 (isolation #109) » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:07 am

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unvote vote devotress
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Post Post #970 (isolation #110) » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:45 am

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Cobalt wrote:
Faraday wrote:why is she town? I genuinely don't see it, what am I missing?

also i'm pretty fucking sick atm so activity might be less than usual idk, depends on what the doctor suggests.
cuz xyl is scum.
Wrong
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that wouldn't make DGB town even if it was true. Two scumteams, remember?
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Post Post #993 (isolation #111) » Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:02 pm

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Two scum, I helped start the wagons on both elvis and StrangerCoug day 1.

I suppose I could still be mafia A.
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Post Post #994 (isolation #112) » Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:05 pm

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I suppose now that elvis is dead I'll have to find another scum. Hmm.
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Post Post #995 (isolation #113) » Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:09 pm

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Xylthixlm wrote:I have a theory that whoever was on the SC wagon, but not the elvis wagon, is scum with elvis. Let's see.
Vi wrote:Let's try that again.

elvis_knits (291) - Vi, Xylthixlm, Pomegranate, Faraday, BloodCovenant, dramonic, Cobalt, chamber, Cruciare, Benmage, Seacore

StrangerCoug (653) - Xylthixlm, Vi,
elvis_knits
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Devotress
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DrippingGoofball
, BloodCovenant, Cobalt, Benmage, Seacore, Faraday,
TonyMontana
, dramonic
That's more than I thought. But elvis and devotress are scum and I think DGB is scum as well. Not sure about TonyMontana.
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Post Post #998 (isolation #114) » Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:45 pm

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Cobalt, you're crazy.

Just making sure you know that.
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Post Post #1000 (isolation #115) » Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:19 pm

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 9


drippinggoofball
- 1 - Xylthixlm - (L-8)
Xylthixlm
- 1 - Cobalt - (L-8)

Players not voting: Benmage, BloodCovenent, budja, chamber, Cruciare, DeathNote, Dramonic, drippinggoofball, Faraday, Farside22, FishytheFish, Seacore, SerialClergyman, TonyMontana, Vaya

SerialClergyman wrote:elvis and devotress weren't scum together, of course. Do you think Tony is likely to be scum?
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #116) » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:58 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Xyl knows I am thoroughly and perfectly town.
Funny. I would have expected you to argue that I can't read you, considering that I've pegged you as scum in 100% of the games we've ever played together. But for some reason you think I
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Post Post #1010 (isolation #117) » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:21 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:Xyl knows I am thoroughly and perfectly town.
Funny. I would have expected you to argue that I can't read you, considering that I've pegged you as scum in 100% of the games we've ever played together. But for some reason you think I
can
read you... hmmm.
Hahaha.

Didn't you think I was town in Medieval Mafia??? Ahhhhh... oh yeah. So it's NOT 100% you little faker you.
Oh yeah. You weren't thinking with eggnog in that one.

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Post Post #1463 (isolation #118) » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:19 pm

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That would have been a great game if I was town.
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #119) » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:32 pm

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Both the people I started wagons on day 1 were scum. It was frustrating that the town was (rightly) refusing to lynch elvis, and the watcher made it impossible to night-kill her. If Devotress had managed to avoid the lynch for just one day she could have done the kill... but no. Frustrating.
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