Seregil 230 wrote:hitogoroshi wrote:Why are we not voting 5cvm. To everyone not voting 5cvm: What are you waiting for, exactly?
Because I don't think he is scum at the moment.
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215 again. Doesn't matter if he's scum or not. He's not going to post content, so he has to die. No argument, no exceptions. This is a play style anybody, scum or town, could do without ever revealing anything, so if someone does it you murder them.
Now that (I hope) the point of the cat posts has been made let me address this point:
A_Squirrel 217 wrote:
@Hitogoroshi
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Was post Seregil's response satisfactory? You gave him an ultimatum and then ignored him.
More or less. I don't honestly think he was creating a dichotomy, but when he denied that it was scummy rather than denying he had done so it set me off. Dichotomies are scummy and I wanted to make sure that point got through.
ChiboSempai 239 wrote:
How is he detrimental to the game? Just ignore his posts. How will his flip give us info? I can't see one possible way some crazy person like this would give us an informative flip. Lets say what if he does flip scum, what would be your next move? He's practically pointed the finger at all of us, its not like we can say, oh crap that means he does know who scum is and we can target one of them, cause hes targeted like 11 ppl lolz.
It is seeming like your using his annoyance to push for a lynch on someone that rly shouldnt be lynched right now.
Firstly, please use all the letters in words like 'really' and 'people', and not just most of them. That may be okay in #scumchat but you can take the time on a forum to write something without that sort of thing.
And secondly, this is completely wrong. 'How is he detrimental? Just ignore his posts'. Think about this for two seconds. Are you saying that if someone ISN'T interacting with others, we leave them alone? Because scum could just make sure to never post anything useful and, by this twisted, backwards logic, never be lynched - which is EXACTLY what you are proposing with 5cvm. That's just asinine.
ChiboSempai 241 wrote:
So let me ask you, why wouldn't you vote no lynch since your practically asking someone from the town to be killed.
Lets work out the numbers for this one. Assuming we always mislynch if we lynch and there is always a nk:
- CASE 1. 2 scum, no lynch d1. 11/12. 9/12. 7/12. 5/12, LYLO on d5.
- CASE 2. 2 scum, misylnch d1. 10/12. 8/12. 6/12, LYLO d4 (or maybe d5, but I think under Boxman's majority lynch rules if the scum quick-paired on someone they'd win.)
- CASE 3. 3 scum, no lynch d1. 11/12. 9/12. 7/12, LYLO on d4.
- CASE 4. 3 scum, mislynch d1. 10/12, 8/12, LYLO d3 (again, could be d4 depending on the specifics of the majority lynch rules.)
So with 2 scum we get four mislynches either way. We only get two (!) mislynches either way with three scum. No-lynch is an option but I'd prefer to have that one sitting in our pockets in case we don't get our act together before a deadline on a later day.
I can't believe I have to re-make this point, but the fact that it's passed most of you by worries me. 5cvm is being completely anti-town. I don't care what you think about what he 'really' is. Either defend his actions as helpful to the town, or lynch him. Suggesting that we ignore him the whole game is completely out of the question.
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