Mini 839 -- Mafia Invasion! (Game Over)

[Tjoe Min Ja]

1. How many games have you played to completion on this site?
none....I join here a long time ago but I play in different site (earth2025 clan's forum)
2. Do you play Mafia on other sites? If so, what is different about those sites vs. here?
read section 1. it's nice to play with new "stranger"
3. Do you consider yourself an experienced player?
there are still better player
4. Which other players in this game have you played with in the last six months?
NOONE
5. Do you prefer to be Town, scum, or third party? Why?
Scum.it's sometimes annoying to find people lynch you when you are town
different story if you are scum:D
6. Who is your favorite fictional character, and why?
-
7. How many scum do you think are in this game?
3-4
8. Why are you filling this survey out?
just wanna see people's response
9. Do you think this survey will be useful in finding scum?
perhaps
10. Am I more likely to be Town or scum in creating this survey?
51%scum 49%town
11. Is English your first language?
NO.as you see I'm chinese
12. What scumtell have you found to be most effective?
honestly I don't know

@vi: Please fill out your own survey. If you seriously contend that this information helps the town, you shouldn't have a problem doing this yourself.

I've already said I would when everyone else has. I'll even lower the bar and go when everyone has had the chance to do it or not do it.

@vi: dumb head.....it is hard to get EVERYONE do the survey! so you better start fill out your own survey

vote : sigma

[Tjoe Min Ja]

perhaps because he is curious of your answer as well...

[Tjoe Min Ja]

waiting for vi

[Tjoe Min Ja]

yay...

unvote

vote Y.C.

[Tjoe Min Ja]

lol...there are still many to convinced

[Tjoe Min Ja]

@Col Cathart - 58 : nothing. just try to put some presure

since Y.C. is the only persone who refused to fill out the survey....I want to make him talk more

[Tjoe Min Ja]

Yes, since the survey has derailed this whole game into an obsessive discussion about it, shifting attention from anything else.
We cannot know about Vi's alignment, since evryone's attention is directed towards the aftermath of the survey.

In effect, this caused a general tormoil which is very harmful to the game in general, and the town in particular,by allowing the mafia and 3rd parties to stay relatively under the radar.

Since this effect is so extreme, I believe that such an action should be sanctioned by the most effective tool we have at our disposal: the lynch.
By lynching the survey initiator, we make a point about the validness of such actions in future games and are able to abandon this line in the present one.

The only other option I see is an appeal to the mod for the removal of Vi from the game. This will serve a similar purpose, but in my opinion he will not consent to this.

RedCoyote, if you consider this survey business enough grounds for removal from the game, please post a reply to the same effect.

I'm going to decline to take any action on the grounds that I've seen nothing that would warrant it.

P.S: Vi, if in the other game the survey was adele's, my point still stands. You did not invent this method simply to irritate others, you copied someone else's technique, a technique I find highly flawed and rude.

Also, Your alignment is no longer the issue. The only way to get out of the survey entanglement is to end it right here, either by a lynch or a stop to this line of discussion, which will not happen willingly, nor can it, under the circumstances.
Such a turn of events was predicted by Porkens in the passage I quoted.

lol.... I gotta start getting used to all this stuff.

when I answer Vi's survey I said that Vi is possibly 51% scum 49%town
but Y.C post ring alarm in my head when he try to take Vi down.

[Tjoe Min Ja]

lol afatchic....that was just a hunch...

it's impossible for everyone here to trust each other at this stage

but the way Y.C. "pissed" make me think that he is up to something

[Tjoe Min Ja]

Vi - 100 : YES. I wanna lynch him

but considering that he is replaced and we still have time, I'm willing to hear more

[Tjoe Min Ja]

jammer 107 : I think you can see from the sig...that I play 3 games atm.
the first 3 game here:P

I play mafia in other site. Y.C.'s like a scum commit that he is scum. if Y.C. play in where I used to play....I 'm sure that he will be lynched. here in the other hand used a thougher contemplation

I make some action in the other 2 games as well and end up being "suspected".

[Tjoe Min Ja]

this game is harder and I make a lot of missunderstanding earlier but all of you should know that Y.C. behaviour is a lot scummy especially his temper and now he claim to be doctor? looks like a scum'ruse to me

[Tjoe Min Ja]

I may be new here but it doesn't mean I don't have any "mafia" experience

I played many of game but under different environment

[Tjoe Min Ja]

@Porkens: I'm having a slow night, but as long as you're keeping track of it I'm fine with waiting.

@pops: Would you like to claim scum and get it over with?

I'm a mafia godfather with four roleblocks. Someone help me rolefish.

???I don't get it

[Tjoe Min Ja]

col. 203 is too good, have been thinking the same thing.

The players who don't have the balls to lynch me after i claimed PR are likely scums.

You are streching this idea far. I do not think unvoting you makes anyone more likely scum.

claiming role considered to be last resort. why?
because there are no way anyone can prove pops to be doctor
what pops did just merely "buy" more time till he get his replacement or he did trying
some scum may unvote but some town also may doing the same thing
there are no guarantee that people that unvote or vote after someone claimed is town/scum
if by lynching pops may bring me closer to day 2 and get more information..that's the price that I have to take

as a note :

As pops pointed out, please do not discuss ongoing games outside of their respective threads. I will also state that claiming a role is not against the rules and would advise you to look over the second post in the thread for any specific rules for this game specifically.

(I don't buy claimed role - I thought some mod also doing modkill if player doing roleclaim?)

(btw what is PR?)

[Tjoe Min Ja]

correction
"what pops did just merely "buy" more time till he get his replacement or he die trying "

[Tjoe Min Ja]

oh....I thought the next poster gonna hit me hard...

[Tjoe Min Ja]

oh...sorry, pops

[Tjoe Min Ja]

I once again find myself agreeing with Porkens post 286. But still I don't know who he finds the most suspicious. The vote on TMJ feels like a settle vote (a vote that is not for a claimed doc) and he didn't name a second suspect when asked. Why the secrecy?

porkens

[Tjoe Min Ja]

just realize I haven't post here...again

You are dead, so there is no longer any reason to post. You are welcome to follow the game, but please do not make any more posts.

*haunt the thread*

good luck to the remaining player...

[Tjoe Min Ja]

1st Law of Cathart - If Cathart has a Pro-Town Power Role - Town will lose. So far, it happened 3 times. The only games I won was as a Vanilla or Mafia

wkwkwkw....and it happen twice with me...yay

*hug CC*

good job, sigma and charter/jammer

I've been watching and see the progress as townie "stab" each other:P