Newbie 830: Game Over

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I have to say that I get suspicious of My Milked Eek due to his "interesting" vote..

Vote: My Milked Eek

Get the discussion going, and my vote is open for change.

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I have to say that I get suspicious of My Milked Eek due to his "interesting" vote..

Vote: My Milked Eek

Get the discussion going, and

my vote is open for change

.

Sounds scum-aware to me.

Vote Dark

My idea was that My Milked Eek voted for a pointless reason (the avatar). Now, you are the only one supporting him.. Now,

that

seems scum-like to me.

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People! Be sensible!

Notice how My Milked Eek commented on my vote, and then Jed Cooper comes in and agrees with Eek, and asked me to explain my vote, which I already had done in my post.

Now Eek asks for avatars, and moose comments on this. Then guess who comes in to support Eek?

@AfroLaX, please read Eek's vote:

Vote: almaster

There's only one who can have a Pokémon-related avatar.

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Unvote: My Milked Eek
Vote: Jed Cooper

Just seems logical to me to counter-vote Jed.

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Unvote: My Milked Eek
Vote: Jed Cooper

Just seems logical to me to counter-vote Jed.

Simple and plain OMGUS, and one without reason, care to explain?

I have been suspicious of both Eek and Jed, and now I'm counter-voting Jed because he voted for me

This should be pretty clear if you were to read my previous posts.

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Btw, what does OMGUS mean? I've only ever played real-life mafia.

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1) You didn't really explain why I'm suspicious. And before you're going to reference that one post you made, let me tell you that that is not a good enough reason.

2) Are you suspicious of Jed only because he is suspicious of you?

3) Why are you ignoring my questions?

1) It started when you posted that awkward "I'm the only one who can have a Pokemon avatar" post.

2) No, because he backs up everything you say.

3) I answer them if I want to answer them.

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1) What was so suspicious of my vote that made you vote for me?
2) Would you say that Jed agreeing with me is a sign that he is a scum trying to buddy up to me or is it a sign of him trying to scumhunt?
3) What do you think about moose's comment?
4) Same as #2, does jed appear to be buddying or hunting scum to you?

1) I think that's answered.
2&4) Already answered.
3) Awkward, but not really that suspicious (how would it make him scum to not want avatars??).

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1) It started when you posted that awkward "I'm the only one who can have a Pokemon avatar" post.

2) No, because he backs up everything you say.

3) I answer them if I want to answer them.


1) You do realize that games usually start with a "random voting stage" (abbr. rvs), in which players "random vote" other players to get some discussion started. This isn't always necessary and some games start without them. Some players even refuse to random vote.

You see, there was no actual reason behind my vote, other than having a vote placed somewhere. The reason I picked almaster was randomly picked.

Now, if someone were to say "I find player x suspicious" in their first post, people usually expect some explanation.


2) Does that make him suspicious? Me? Or you, the subject of our shared suspicion?


3) Sure, but you do realize that not answering questions makes you look evasive, which in turn does not aid your case.

Ok, I get it..

UNVOTE

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Ok, I apologize to all for being aggressive

I'm used to real-life mafia, where you vote because of "I heard X move" etc.

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Unvote: My Milked Eeek. Vote: Belili.

He isn't saying anything. This needs to change.

Why would Almaster want to vote for someone inactive? They'd hardly be scum..

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Why would Almaster want to vote for someone inactive?

They'd hardly be scum

..

Bold added for emphasis. How would you know belili isn't scum?

FoS: DarkLight

How I would know? Because I'm assuming that the scum would be active in the thread... Fair reason?

I'm still holding my vote.

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UNVOTE: VOTEStumpyTheElephantMan

What do you mean by this?

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I agree. Moose, stop complaining and get yourself an avatar!

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FoS: moose

He seems to believe that he has authority, is this a scum move?

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I disagree with what everyone says about me.

A) I am scum hunting, if i have to be a douche I will.

B) I am here for one thing, that's to win.

And as mafia I promised my partners I'd do everything in my power to help them win.

Please explain the italics.

HoS: Moose

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@Dark:

What do you think of Moose's play so far? How about the other players?

I think that moose is showing a real supremacy here, thinking that he is the ruler of the world. Now, would you think you were the ruler if you were a vanilla? I'm no longer suspicious of Eek and Joe.. I just started off on the wrong foot, as it's my first game

Vote: moose200x

Anyone got a hammer?

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I am (---) this close to asking for a replacement.

Where is our IC telling these scrubby newbies how damn scummy it is to even come close to lynching someone on page SIX

Damn stupid asshats are gonna get steamrolled by the mafia.

Umm.. How exactly is that pro-town??

By the way this guy is reacting, I think we might have caught one of them.

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Now, one can

assume that if I am town

that both mafia jumped on me already. Please keep that in mind.

Ideas?

I still have a strong feeling that this is a scum. But why on Earth threaten with a replacement to remove votes from him? That just seems plain stupid.


It seems like moose200x has a temper though. Referring to Newbie 822 where he was modkilled.


What do you guys think?

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Moose, now you're just trying to put the blame on other people. Stop. Explain

yourself

instead.

I agree that CSL is acting a bit wierd, especially with his copy of Jed's questions, but explain yourself and your actions instead.

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Now, one can

assume that if I am town

that both mafia jumped on me already. Please keep that in mind.

Ideas?

I still have a strong feeling that this is a scum. But why on Earth threaten with a replacement to remove votes from him? That just seems plain stupid.


It seems like moose200x has a temper though. Referring to Newbie 822 where he was modkilled.


What do you guys think?

wow, i missed this...

I am now confused he is mafia. He is laying out the case that "hey, even tho i did vote for moose the town I was about to switch but someone hammerd" so that in the future he can seem less scummy.

Chill.. It's called discussion. I'm keeping my vote on you, as I think we have the right one.

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Moose, now you're just trying to put the blame on other people. Stop. Explain

yourself

instead.

Are you reading the thread?

Both Jed and I asked moose to give us his suspects a few posts ago.

>> Moose
It's not that you called me IC that made me post that, it's the "If he is mafia we all lose anyways." that did.

Yes, Eek, I know, but throughout the thread he's only been going on about others being mafia, and now I want him to explain himself for once.

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@jed: Probably not Almaster or CSL, as these were the people he thought were mafia the most..

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But I am especially waiting to hear from those 3 as they aren't yet voting him.

Neither are you. What do you think of moose's play?

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It seems that moose thinks that everyone except Eek is scum..

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Votecount please

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B) I am here for one thing, that's to win. And as mafia I promised my partners I'd do everything in my power to help them win.

Then what is that all about? He explains it as a JOKE.. Does it look like it, or is it something that a scum mistake he's just trying to shuffle away?

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I am (---) this close to asking for a replacement.

Where is our IC telling these scrubby newbies how damn scummy it is to even come close to lynching someone on page SIX

Damn stupid asshats are gonna get steamrolled by the mafia.

and this one? Why would moose want a replacement just because he's being voted out? Is that fair?

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And how does it help you and everyone else by threatening to be replaced? Or is it just pure harshness?

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Interesting...

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I'm just thinking about moose's wierd scum hunting...

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I'm assuming that if you're town, then the mafia are already on you.

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Now, one can assume that if I am town that both mafia jumped on me already. Please keep that in mind.

What happened to that? Is this a scum mistake?

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ones that do not accuse me of being scum

Then I can't comment

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@People who aren't voting for moose: Is there something that I've overlooked?

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A reread was necessary to gather all my thoughts, because we have passed the 200 post mark in less than 3 days, which is insanely fast. Guess we all have no lives and too

many

time to spend on the Internet. Especially when we start to consider sleeping to be lurking.

Is that spelling mistake an encrypted message? Jk

Back on track: I agree to this.. Check out Newie 829 (we're 830). They're still on page 2.

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And by "overlooked" you mean?

Would you not agree that it's better for your sake that you go look for yourself if you miss something and form your opinion about new things yourself?

As far as I see, I haven't overlooked anything that would make me hesitate about voting for him.

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Why not just retract your vote and say that it's a bit early for L-1

Scum buddies??

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..and isn't his post a bit awkward considering that this game is o page 13 and day 3?

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Oh, and by the way people, what time zones are you in? I'm in GMT+1.

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Well.. I find it relevant, and I think you will too, after thinking a bit.

You see, it's a bit harsh to say someone's lurking because "It's 6 pm over here", while in fact it's 4 am in their time zone. Get it?

Oh, and I had sandwiches for breakfast, it's raining a lot and I had lamb for Christmas..

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^^^ that's my feelings and thoughts

They happen to be 29 hours, 6 pages old thoughts.

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I've been suspicious of CSL for a while, and I looked at this post:

[quote=csl]Yes, Eek, I'm a hypocite, but that doesn't mean I'm scum, does it?

Anyways, now that you say it, Eek. I feel as if this day should be done with...

UnHoS
Vote: moose

This is the way we'll get information. If he is scum, we have one left.
Assuming there is a doc, and he/she picks the right one, it would be 7 against one.
Assuming there is a cop, and he/she picks the right one, and not NK'd, there will be a quick D2...

If he is town, we will need serious scumhunting skills, as we will be in potential lylo... [/quote]

To me this looks like an obvious scum trying to save his own skin... I don't know about you guys though.. All of the "results" look scummy to me.

@CSL, how can you assume that the doc/cop choose the right one??

As of now:

UNVOTE: Moose200x
VOTE: CSL

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@mod: votecount please

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Now you've double-unvoted and double-voted. Is it neccessary to bother the mod like that?

OT: You have three votes, and are saying goodbye already?

you're going to have to deal with suspicions all around once I'm gone.

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Hmm.. Eek seems more eager to lynch this time.

FoS: Eek

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Just so you two know: I'm pretty sure exactly one of you is scum. Y'all voted for each other pretty early, moose has been pretty dang scummy and CSL has been uncomfortably buddy-buddy with me this whole time.

If the person who gets lynched flips town I'm going for the other one next.

I don't know about you guys, but that sounds like a scum move to me.. Making sure that noone else will get voted out in D1&2 but moose and csl..

Also, his post:

Choose well, Mae.
By the way, I would not be surprised if I got nightkilled. As such, I just want to reiterate:
If moose flips town, go after CSL
If moose flips scum, go after Eek
If CSL flips town, go after moose
If CSL flips scum, go after not moose

Here he's TELLING US who to go after.

I think both of these are scum slip-ups where he pretty much tells us "I'm scum, and I want you to vote for these so that we can remove townies"..

But the confusing part is this:

Assuming that SBSS is scum, these are the 4 possibilities that he himself has mentioned.

But, consider that one of these is scum: CSL or moose, in addition to SBSS.

1. Moose is scum, and is voted out. You have to go for Eek. (wtf?)
2. Moose is town, then go for CSL.
3. CSL is town, then go for MOOSE.
4. CSL is scum, then go for NOT MOOSE.

Now, he tells us to go after someone else if they flip scum, but go to the other one if they flip town. This pretty much proves that SBSS is not on a team with either one, because, as both are at L-1, and it would seem stupid to make people go for his buddy.


I just don't like these two posts by SBSS. They just seem to be, as explained above, an "innocent killing" mission.


I'm going to say:

UNVOTE: CSL
VOTE: SpongeBobShortShorts

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@Eek: Sorry bout that. Responding to your points towards me.
I'm saying it could have come up that you were a girl in the discussion outside the thread.
The logic is pretty clear. You and Eek seem to have an agreement that you will argue and bicker and make weak accusations but not actually vote for each other. This would allow you to seem like you were having healthy, productive discussion without risking seeming scummy. Interestingly, you both voted for CSL. You seem to be acting as a scum team, and if moose flips town then CSL is probably scum. The reason I think CSL and moose are on opposite teams is that they have an ongoing, mega-angry feud, complete with votes.

You are talking to Eek about "you and Eek"??

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What are Eek and I both doing? Arguing with you? I am arguing with you because I'm convinced you're scum and I have my vote on you because I want to lynch you. Quite frankly, I'm not super-worried about appearing scummy because I'm vanilla town.

THIS IS A ROLECLAIM OF VANILLA TOWN IN CASE ANY OF YOU MISS IT

I'm relying on my hyper-advanced brain and arguing against you. So far we have three claimed vanilla townies in this game. Odds are at least one of them is lying. I know I'm telling the truth, so let's see what happens if you or CSL gets lynched, hmm?

Role claiming at L-4??? WTF??

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I still think SBSS is suspicious

@Eek, moose and CSL: What do you think of his role claim at L-4?

@mod: votecount please

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And he claims townie... There is something going on here. I think SBSS and CSL are scum.

Is CSL at L-4?

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@SBSS, please get an avatar. It's hard with 2+ people without avatars, and since moose doesn't cooperate, then you're the only one who can do it..

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WOOHOO!! Moose got an avatar! I never thought that this day would come!

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Wow.. I'm that influential to you guys! Good to know xD

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Moose got uber-ninja'd!

He posted roughly 0.5 secs after me, it was there when my window was refreshed after posting =)

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Back to the game.

I am very worried that

sponge, csl or

myself are not scum

day 1 has pretty much focused on those 3 people. What if scum has slipped through and is playing us all for fools?

Yes, my opinion has changed. My ranking is from scum to "more townie" is:
1. Sponge -> telling us what to do, who to vote if moose/CSL isn't scum etc..
2. CSL
3. Moose

I think you all know the reasons for 2&3.

But moose, what's up with the bold in the quote? You're worried that

you

aren't scum? Is that a slip-up?

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Good morning CSL.


@CSL: May I ask for your opinion on SBSS' play?

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Aha.. Now we know that he's not the mafia.

I'm sticking to my previous vote:

VOTE: SpongeBob

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Sorry to see you leave btw, you made a great IC.

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"If CSL flips town, go after moose" That's SBSS' advice.

Also, at reread:

By the way, I would not be surprised if I got nightkilled.

He sais that after voting, unvoting and voting moose again. Why would he think so???

Also, does anyone have a list on Eek's votes? I have to eat now, might make it later if noone else does.

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Crap, Milk's not scum.

He sais "Crap, milk's not scum".. If he thought that Eek was mafia, then why doesn't he yell "Hooray!" about not wasting a leech on it?

thought Milk being scum was dependent on you being scum, not the other way around.

Ok, so connecting this to the other statement by you that I quoted, this would be your opinion:

Sponge's opinion, as seen by me:

"I thought that Moose was scum, but then I changed my vote to CSL, and leeched a townie. Now, since Moose

obviously

is a mafia, because my instincts tell me so, it's unfortunate that Eek was a townie, because if Moose really is a mafia then Eek can't be his scum partner.


See how it doesn't make sense?

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I think there's something off with your "joke" SBSS.. My vote against you stands.

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FoS: moose, almaster
HoS: mae

@Moose: Please don't forget that you have been in L-1, don't claim authority.

@ALL TOWNIES: Remember, if you vote another townie, mafia will just jump on and the game will be over. Please keep this in mind while studying any votes at all.

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@Mae and almaster: Top suspects please.

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The Lurkathon needs to end.

I think we've answered this many times, Mae.

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UNHOS: Mae
UNFOS: Almaster

HoS

: Almaster

@Almaster: Please explain yourself.

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Almaster isn't exactly active..

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I'm town.

Don't be rash.

Do not vote.

Thanks.

I said clearly "Almaster and Mae: Top suspects please". Now this is what we get in response. A role claim, and a Do not vote. Doesn't this seem scummy?

I mean: "I'm town, don't vote me". To me that seems obv-scum, I don't know about you guys.

@Mae: I might have missed it, but please specify your top suspects in order.

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Addition to prev post:

After re-reading my post, I realize this:

He sais he is town, but then sais

DON'T VOTE

. Wouldn't it be enough, if he were town, to just leave it at he was town?

Also, guys, please don't vote yet. WHAT-SO-EVER. Even if a band wagon is starting with 1-2 people, remember that these might be the two mafia.

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Also, maybe he [Almaster] wanted to get his point across better....I dunno why though.

Why are you defending him?

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"Do not vote" still jumps at me though..

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I'm not sure that I believe that moose..

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May I ask everyone to take into consideration that the above post may just as well be posted by a scum, trying to put blame on me?

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SCUM

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moose200x

Maemuki

AfroLaX
AlmasterGM

TOWN

See how you two group together nicely?

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I must say that the way I see it, I'm not teaming with moose, he's teaming with me. I do not say that he's not scum, I just say that you two seem to be on a team of some sort, scum or town.

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PBPA of Almaster (not too much here, been lots of lurking):

1) OMGUS vote for Eek, townie

2) Vote Belili for inactivity, townie

3)

2) Mafia like to not draw attention to themselves. Not posting early is a good way to get away with this because posts are heavily scrutinized during the RVS because there is nothing to go on anyway.

Isn't that what you've been doing?

4) Votes moose because of the wierd

And as mafia I promised my partners I'd do everything in my power to help them win.

With a side note:

I'm pretty sure somebody just got owned.

5)

Why not just retract your vote and say that it's a bit early for L-1 and that we should stop being hasty and talk things over for the full amount of allotted time? Seems like a decent reason to me, I was going to do it myself. The day is still quite young.

Trying to extend the day. Hmm..

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9)

College move-in day was yesterday. Give me a break. The amount of activity this game had last round was insanely abnormal and I will need time to fully analyze it. The round also ended much quicker than it should have.

I'm town. Don't be rash. Do not vote. Thanks.

That line is what really spiked my suspicions about him.

10) [quote="almaster]SCUM

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Maemuki
AfroLaX
AlmasterGM

TOWN [/quote]
and PBPA of me

11)

Why don't you respond instead of just saying "AGM is scum."

I just warned everyone that this might be posted by a scum, just as easily as by a townie.

12) Threatening of casting votes

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@townie, remember, even if almaster does cast his vote, be cautious of casting yours too. This applies to votes by me to, for that sake. Don't trust anyone.

A band wagon with 2 people can easily be both of the scum.

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Oh and @ almasters "Playing the n00b card", I AM THAT NOOB! I haven't acted like it!

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@Almaster: I just went through your case, I didn't say that I thought you were scum.

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EBWOP: Please distinguish between doing a PBPA in an attempt to implicate someone you think is scum [e.g. building a case against them] & doing a PBPA to try incriminate them and when it doesn't work, you back off claiming you were giving a [completely pointless] PBPA on someone you think is town.

It was more personal, for myself, to check who's scum.

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If you aren't scum, you just ruined the game for the townies..

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@townies: Please remember, Almaster could be scum (in fact it seems like it to me, how he jumps to a conclusion after his 24-hour-challenge), and so, don't follow the band wagon without considering.

Vote: Almaster

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Almaster teams up with the mafia xD