I'm not done tunneling you from Mini 773 yet, scum.
More qwints lynching please!
*facepalm* read the town role PM, scum.Sajin wrote:Where is this in the rules?hohum wrote:Sajin: You're obviously not aware that the chosen do not know they are chosen as such, which means you didn't get a town PM.
Unvote, Vote Sajin
I like where troll is going with this.
I sent a question to the mod.
This is going to be a short game. More sajin lynching please.Townie Role PM wrote: You're a karaoke singer (town). Like most other karaoke singers, you think you rock at it but largely just do it to have a good time, obv. You get this weird feeling that maybe, just maybe there are a couple people out there who might be taking this karaoke thing a bit too seriously but hey, things seem to be going all right so far, right? Maybe not. You need to kill those jealous people before they start killing you or the two best singers in your group (heh, let's face it. Maybe it's you who's one of the two best singers, but maybe not).
You win when either all of the mafia are dead, or when the only living town-aligned players are the Chosen Ones.
Pooh doesn't see the point.Zorblag wrote: Troll would also like it if you would answer Troll's questions if you be willing.
I'm an abrasive person in-game. It helps me scum hunt. You'll get used it it eventually.Zorblag wrote: there be no need to insult.
I'd rather conduct productive lynches rather than try and play "a perfect game" because it gives the scum less opportunity to introduce WIOFM into the town's thought processes.Scien wrote: We could have allowed the other scum to walk right into the same mistake.
Fine, discussion is good. Lynching scum should trump that though. Until someone convinces me that Sajin isn't obvscum, the questions are pointless to the task of lynching sajin. If you want the answers, you'll have to wait.Zorblag wrote:The first be similar to Scien's question but be approaching it from another angle. The second and third be useful for determining what sort of points of view players have on this dynamic which might give access to their probable roles. Unless you have have a specific reason not to answer the questions Troll would appreciate if you do. It be up to you but more information about this sort of thing should help the town in the long run.hohum wrote:Pooh doesn't see the point.Zorblag wrote:Troll would also like it if you would answer Troll's questions if you be willing.
-Zorblag R`Lyeh
If you read your PMs as carefully as you say then you didn't get a town role PM. It quite clearly states (all be it in karaoke-speak) that the chosen one is not know to the town.Sajin wrote:OMGUS would be me voting troll, he was the first voter. I was confused I agree.
I assumed I was NOT told when I got my PM and that I was told in the duration of the mods 5th post when he stated chosen have now been selected.
I read my PMs carefully. I understood I could be chosen and did not know at the time I was sent the PM. I did not understand that I would never know.
That's a lame-ass reason for a vote. Of course I'm going to take advantage of your scumslip. Who wouldn't?Sajin wrote:Define what you think is OMGUS then.
To me thats voting with no other reason other than you voted me.
I have reason. My accusation is that you were taking advantage of my confusion.
The fact that you voted me, called me scummy a couple pages ago proves thatPZscum wrote:1. Prove I attempted to tear down his wagon.
Because it merits discussion. Why are you against discussing the merits of a sajin lynch wagon?PZscum wrote:2. If I tore it down why are you still pursuing it?
See my answer above.PZ wrote:3. Why are you pursuing a wagon on a player that's very very likely town?
Sajin wrote: I have yet to see your case. Way to change the subject.
How would you suggest we go about scum hunting then? By not voting you're effectively mooting the only pressure tactic that we have as a town.Scien wrote: This is exactly why I don't like leading with a vote to the rest of you.
You're screaming at people anyways (namely me)Scien wrote: and scream at them to answer which will also likely be ignored.
You clearly know my meta (though we've only played one game together). You should know I scum hunt the same way, all the time. Whether I have a power role, a vanilla role or I'm scum. Saying that I should pay less attention to scum tells because of game mechanics is the wrong approach, because it gives scum the opportunity to introduce WIOFM into the mix by not behaving in their own best interests. I will continue to peruse scum tells as I see them and adjust my notes accordingly.qwints wrote:Hohum, you should re-think the significance of defending in this game given the chosen mechanic. Being defended may actually be a town tell.
I'm not sure whether to be offended or to take that as a compliment, but it made me chuckle. Did you have to struggle to come up with something nice to say about me or is this really how you feel?qwints wrote:To others, my experience shows hohum to be somewhat of an idiot savant. You have to deal with the idiot to get the good scum hunting.
you're right.Scien wrote: I think as always that your flaming merely intentional to get reactions out of people.
You're wrong.Scien wrote: I also think as always that this would be more of a scum tool than a town tool.
I'm going to try this one more time. After this, the subject NEEDS to be dropped. Arguments get us nowhere.Scien wrote:However I still hold that your intentional flaming is designed for one reason. To provoke misplays from people.
Provoking is not a good tactic. Yes scum can be provoked into misplays. However townies can also be provoked into misplays that you can capitalize on as well.
I look forward to hearing a hell of a lot more from you before the day is out. I still don't have ANY read whatsoever on you and cojin. Cojin is doing a bad job of being stealthy but you've obviously had practice.MiteyMouse wrote:Wow...I see the trick to keeping people active here is Hohum...AKA Blabbermouth...hehehe!
I reread the whole Sajin thing and really thinks he comes out looking Town in it. I feel his pain, as I'm not one to read and analyze my own PM. I look for the role and then move on.
I'm finding this game easier to pick out who is more likely Town than Scum.
Hohum is far louder than I've seen him play in a game with me and Papa is far quieter.
More to come...just want to look over things a bit more.
The whole point is the only way to properly judge a wagon is in hindsight. Pulling down wagons as they're forming is always a bad thing. It's never productive because it starts arguments and always leads to WIFOM.MiteyMouse wrote:I don't really agree that being defended makes you look Town here. Both Town and Scum cuddle...I cuddle everyone, when I'm Town or when I'm Scum. And being defended, shows nothing. I would more be looking at the people defending...perhaps someone might leak some PIS somewhere.
I'm giving you some leeway out of respect and because you're standing your ground in the face of stupidity. It would be hard for scum to stand their ground when the likes of PZ, Scien and Nikanor are all playing this game like children who have just been told to go to bed early.qwints wrote: Hohum's defense of me is quite strange. Cuddly hohum freaks me out.
Not that I want to get in a long drawn out discussion about my meta, but there were only 7P in that game. You're right in that I hopped off his wagon to do some scum hunting but my approach nor my suspicions wavered once. As soon as he fakeclaimed my "sand paper" tactics got the lynch done.PZ wrote: The BloodCovenent wagon actually built without his presence
What have I not divulged? I never sent PZ off into a treasure hunt and the only person I've refused to answer so far is Zorblag.MiteyMouse wrote:Well...he did the same thing for you earlier Papa. I just think that if he is going to try to set the players in this game to a certain level of play than he needs to step up to the same level. He cannot expect us to divulge everything if he is not planning to do the same thing himself...