/in-vitational 2 - Chosen, Karaoke - Game over! before 830

[Scien]

[Reasoning provided]

And even though I am still processing the thought, and am not sure yet how much the assumptions are likely, that explanation seems like a very thought out answer.

Hmm. Something to think about. Thank you for your response.

Unvote: Qwints

Hohum's defense of me is quite strange. Cuddly hohum freaks me out.

Hah.

[...] anti-town may overlap scummy, but it does not equal scummy.

Meh, fair I suppose. But that does not change the fact that anti-town play can be scummy, and I should examine it. And if necessary believe its scummy in absence of a defense I can believe.

Did you ask the troll to explain the reasoning behind his questions at the beginning of the game. If not, why not?

No, you are right, I didn't. Why not? I made an assumption. My assumption being that he either wanted claimed views from people for the information it contained, or he wanted to look like he wanted the information.

Long story short, I believed it was just a way to start the game.

Besides that, even though I can not read his motives for asking questions, point blank asking him additional questions at that time would have been near useless at that point. He would have just tried to answer in a way that would have made sense and would have likely succeeded no matter what alignment he is. There was nothing overtly illogical that I noticed that I could have tried to examine, if there was I would have tried to examine it...

It would be hard for scum to stand their ground when the likes of PZ, Scien and Nikanor are all playing this game like children who have just been told to go to bed early.

Heh. Fail bait is fail.

[hohum]

The BloodCovenent wagon actually built without his presence

Not that I want to get in a long drawn out discussion about my meta, but there were only 7P in that game. You're right in that I hopped off his wagon to do some scum hunting but my approach nor my suspicions wavered once. As soon as he fakeclaimed my "sand paper" tactics got the lynch done.

[MiteyMouse]

There is a reason that I always list Papa Zigo as one of my top suspects. He scares the crap out of me when he is Scum!

[hohum]

who's the other townie on your list MM?

[MiteyMouse]

I have no idea who is Town and who is Scum Hohum...nice try though!

[MiteyMouse]

Oh...I see what you're asking now. I would prefer to keep that under my belt for now. If you read my posts it might become pretty clear though.

[hohum]

I have no idea who is Town and who is Scum Hohum...nice try though!

Really though, I'm more looking at this through who is more likely Town and right now

I have 2 people on that list

...one being me.

[Papa Zito]

I'm asking about the argument itself.

Arrite, here's my take.

Avoiding questions is, in my opinion, a scum-tell. There are cases where a player may avoid a question to produce pressure (voting without reasons) but this didn't seem to be one of them. Instead it seemed as if you were deliberately withholding information from the town. I felt the questioning was appropriate, and that if you didn't want to be questioned on the point then it shouldn't have been mentioned in the thread to begin with.

Side-note: I'm loving the current pace of the game.

[MiteyMouse]

See above please Hohum...

[hohum]

Oh...I see what you're asking now. I would prefer to keep that under my belt for now. If you read my posts it might become pretty clear though.

If it's as obvious as you say it is, why keep it to yourself?

[MiteyMouse]

Wasn't it you who said that it was ok to withhold an oponion?

[hohum]

yes, but if it's as obvious as you say it is there's no reason to continue to be secretive.

[MiteyMouse]

So...go find it!

[Papa Zito]

So...go find it!

???

[MiteyMouse]

Sorry Papa...that was to Hohum.

[Papa Zito]

Sorry Papa...that was to Hohum.

I know it was to Hohum.

I'm just not sure why you're sending him off on a treasure hunt.

[MiteyMouse]

Well...he did the same thing for you earlier Papa. I just think that if he is going to try to set the players in this game to a certain level of play than he needs to step up to the same level. He cannot expect us to divulge everything if he is not planning to do the same thing himself...

[Incognito]

Vote Count #7 of Day 1

hohum (2) <-~ MiteyMouse, Sajin
qwints (2) <-~ Nikanor, Papa Zito
Nikanor (1) <-~ hohum
Cojin (1) <-~ qwints

Not voting (3) <-~ Cojin, Zorblag, Scien

With 9 living, 5 will do it.

Friday, August 21st at 9 P.M. EDT.

[hohum]

Well...he did the same thing for you earlier Papa. I just think that if he is going to try to set the players in this game to a certain level of play than he needs to step up to the same level. He cannot expect us to divulge everything if he is not planning to do the same thing himself...

What have I not divulged? I never sent PZ off into a treasure hunt and the only person I've refused to answer so far is Zorblag.

You're just making shit up as you go along.

[MiteyMouse]

Really...you didn't say:

Papa Zito: go reread the last 5 pages. I've been spilling reasons.

[hohum]

Really...you didn't say:

Papa Zito: go reread the last 5 pages. I've been spilling reasons.

There's a difference between rehashing an entire case on someone and answering a simple question.

[hohum]

I want you to stop being dodgy and answer the question, because based on post 204 I don't believe you bother to actually think about what you post before you post it. Which is a scum tell. Trying to appear to be helpful and actually being helpful are two different things.

Your refusal to comply is negatively effecting my null read on you.

[MiteyMouse]

Interesting...I have already answered the question before it was posed. So, to you it's answering a simple question and me it's doing the exact same thing that you already did. I will conceed to answer the question if you agree to play by the same rules that you are asking us to play by.

[hohum]

Unvote, Vote MiteyMouse

[hohum]

why do you still have a random vote on me?