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Zorblag wrote:
MafiaSSK: Troll no hasany reason to think that his vote be anything otherthan a convenient bandwagon. Him claims that him has areason (in a waywhich beliterallytransparent but not helpful or nearly aseasyto figure outas an answerto a question of thatsort should be.)
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Oh, but I can.Xtoxm wrote:Well, Zwet hasn't posted since half 9 last night anywhere, so that much seems legitimate. But if he was town i'd have expected him to claim by now. He spent quite a while around L-2/L-3, it was clear he was the choice. Which tempts me to hammer but still, his lynch doesn't fill me with confidence.
I think SSK for the other lynch. He's clearly trying to lurk within the deadlines, and I seriously doubt he can go this game without a 72h strecth of lurking.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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It's only when someone does a "@MafiaSSK/@SSK"Zorblag wrote: Just in case MafiaSSK needs more rope though Troll will provide the ideal vehicle for him to post through his restriction (him has shown that him can selectively quote from a larger post so him can simply use this one whenever him wants to say something; hopefully starting with a better explanation.)
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-Zorblag R`LyehCall me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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Zorblag wrote:Ah, Troll could have waited another minute and had Xtoxm hammer it seems. So be it. The lynch be done in any case.
Second things second:
You mean exactly like Troll didn't for this one?MafiaSSK wrote:It's only when someone does a "@MafiaSSK/@SSK"
That one wasn't even a question to MafiaSSK or particularly something addressed to him but rather Troll's thoughts about him as someone voting for zwetschenwasser. On the other hand, the last post him replied to by Troll was addressed to him and him no felt compelled to use his post restriction. Troll no be buying it at all and even if Troll was there apparently be no reason for MafiaSSK not to contribute in normal ways the rest of the time.MafiaSSK wrote:Zorblag wrote:
MafiaSSK: Troll no hasany reason to think that his vote be anything otherthan a convenient bandwagon. Him claims that him has areason (in a waywhich beliterallytransparent but not helpful or nearly aseasyto figure outas an answerto a question of thatsort should be.)
I didn't mean just for the @MafiaSSK but stuff like MafiaSSK:blahblahblah as you did in the quoted post.
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Why do you think it's fake?Xtoxm wrote:Because he wants to? Fun? I've seen town do it before. I don't have a problem with townies faking a PR. I do with SSK's chronic lurking.
Although the specific PR is most unhelpful, and potentially lynchworty in itself, if it was kept up.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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Oh yes because I have ever done that in any of my games where I've been scum.Zorblag wrote:Now that we know zwetschenwasser was scum Troll's initial reaction be that MafiaSSK was doing it to draw attention away from zwetschenwasser and try to derail the bandwagon.Vote: MafiaSSK.
If him be a townie doing it for fun than that be terrible play.
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Which game was that orto?ortolan wrote:Vote: MafiaSSK
where did he explicitly claim a PR though?
Either way, he's going to be absolutely no use with a PR like that as town and I'm assuming he hopes to use it to fly under the radar as scum (cause someone with such a strong PR would "forget" to post because they can't say much).
I was surprised he signed up for this of all games to be honest. My only experience with him previously was when he was scum and...spent most of his time lurking. But I believe he lurks as both town and scum. Still his lynch is very, very desirable.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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Why do you think it's so restrictive? pr's like this don't encourage lurking.Xtoxm wrote:I don't think Yos would put such a restrictive PR in a game like this, where lurking is heavily discouraged. Or a PR at all at that. And you're a person I can see faking a PR.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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And you vote me because of it?Empking wrote:
If there's nothing to say why does the fact that I didn't say anything matter.Antihero wrote:
What's this supposed to mean?Empking wrote:If the first is true why does the second matter?
Vote: Mafiassk
I don't buy it.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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Oh.ortolan wrote:
Serum & Steel. I was actually one of the last to get on your wagon (/slaps myself ) but it was obvious you were scum when instead of answering people's questions you chose to lurk until the point you were lynched.MafiaSSK (273) wrote:Which game was that orto?
Except have I even really lurked at all this game?I would be perfectly happy policy-lynching MafiaSSK in a game like this- you just know he's going to lurk and you're not going to know whether it's from a scum or just him-being-him agenda. The fact he's been blatantly scummy with a dodgy PR claim (and thus can't really be of any use anyway) is just the icing on the cake.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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Xylthixlm wrote:
I can't make heads nor tails of this post. There aren't even matching [color] tags.MafiaSSK wrote:DrippingGoofball wrote:@ MafiaSSK
Do you know why a scumbag would fake a PR?
Toavoid saying anythingthatmight get himself caught.
Himself or his buddies.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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It should say No in the first line. Followed by That is s(tupid).Antihero wrote:
I got rid of the messed up tag.MafiaSSK wrote:DrippingGoofball wrote:@ MafiaSSK
Do you know why a scumbag would fake a PR?
To avoid saying anythingthatmight get himself caught.
Himself or his buddies.
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nothing that is s?????
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Yes.DrippingGoofball wrote:MafiaSSK wrote:Sigh. Fucking Steth. Yeah, I'm DayMasons with him. We are indeed unconfirmed to each other. No, we have not really said much in the mason lounge.confirmed?Un
Isn't that the exact opposite of what Steph has been saying, or are there gas leaks in my house affecting my thinking?Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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Nuwen wrote:
MafiaSSK- This is our lynch. Noncommittal, unconfirmed, and unwilling to usehis mason partner to contribute to the gamevia QT. Daytalking ishands downoneof the most powerful abilities availablein Mafia. Not using this ability to his advantage (or at least maneuver around his PRor indicate that he) tuse the QT to dodge the PRcouldn'tells me that he doesnot share a win condition with his partner Steph, whose genuine mistakes indicate that he's town.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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[/quote]MafiaSSK wrote:akes indicate that he's town.
@MafiaSSK: You're entirely unable tochannel your reads/opinions on players via your QT? Can we provideyou with an a-z spectrum timesa hundred to get a post containing real content? Troll tried this and it wasn't taken advantage of.
I understand your PR to limit 1) How you respond to questions directed at you (white text additions to pre-written script) and 2) Imperative to respond to all questions.
Narrowing down the specifications of post restrictions is the best way to test them. MafiaSSK has responded posts that neither address him nor contain a mention of his name:
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MafiaSSK wrote:MafiaSSK wrote:akes indicate that he's town.xyl wrote: @MafiaSSK: You're entirely unable tochannel your reads/opinions on players via your QT? Can we provideyou with an a-z spectrum timesa hundred to get a post containing real content? Troll tried this and it wasn't taken advantage of.
I understand your PR to limit 1) How you respond to questions directed at you (white text additions to pre-written script) and 2) Imperative to respond to all questions.
Narrowing down the specifications of post restrictions is the best way to test them. MafiaSSK has responded posts that neither address him nor contain a mention of his name:
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EBWOp EBWOpMafiaSSK wrote:xyl wrote: @MafiaSSK: You're entirely unable tochannel your reads/opinions on players via your QT? Can we provideyou with an a-z spectrum timesa hundred to get a post containing real content? Troll tried this and it wasn't taken advantage of.
I understand your PR to limit 1) How you respond to questions directed at you (white text additions to pre-written script) and 2) Imperative to respond to all questions.
Narrowing down the specifications of post restrictions is the best way to test them. MafiaSSK has responded posts that neither address him nor contain a mention of his name:
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<3 this postroflcopter wrote:in the last three pages this thread has seen so much stupid, i can't wait to get back to a computer and metaphorically rip several people a new one.
nuwen putting so much effort into keeping everyone as unconfirmed as possible is epic mega scummy.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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I believe I am town, sir. I just don't feel like posting a huge ass post detailing why you are scum.Xylthixlm wrote:WHY IS MAFIASSK NOT DEAD YET?
roflcopter, Stephoscope, Nuwen, elvis_knits, image, MafiaSSK, Mastin, Kinetic: Explain why you are not voting MafiaSSK.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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No. Because it would mostly be filled with posts for you begging everyone to get me lynched as if you would die for another mislynch.Xylthixlm wrote:
Do it.MafiaSSK wrote:
I believe I am town, sir. I just don't feel like posting a huge ass post detailing why you are scum.Xylthixlm wrote:WHY IS MAFIASSK NOT DEAD YET?
roflcopter, Stephoscope, Nuwen, elvis_knits, image, MafiaSSK, Mastin, Kinetic: Explain why you are not voting MafiaSSK.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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Yes, fine I wasn't doing it a while ago. Now I am but Steph isn't.elvis_knits wrote:Yeah, it's pretty convoluted.
But God, I hate the notions of masons being unconfirmed. I think the point of being masons is you know the other one is town and you work together. If you don't know the other is town it's just the same as not being masons, except you can talk out of thread, which it sounds like SSK is not doing. The whole thing is massively annoying to me.
Or perhaps I am cranky.
I think I expected steph to be more helpful sorting this out, too.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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Sigh.Xylthixlm wrote:
So, what happened to your post restriction?MafiaSSK wrote:
No. Because it would mostly be filled with posts for you begging everyone to get me lynched as if you would die for another mislynch.Xylthixlm wrote:
Do it.MafiaSSK wrote:
I believe I am town, sir. I just don't feel like posting a huge ass post detailing why you are scum.Xylthixlm wrote:WHY IS MAFIASSK NOT DEAD YET?
roflcopter, Stephoscope, Nuwen, elvis_knits, image, MafiaSSK, Mastin, Kinetic: Explain why you are not voting MafiaSSK.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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Another good post by roflcopter.roflcopter wrote:i haven't read from where i last really posted yet, but lynching mafiassk is mad stupid, a utility lynch is not a good idea right now, and the fact that xyl is OMFG ANGRY that we aren't doing so is not sitting well with me. he's keeping the limelight off of someone, and its either image or nuwen.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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I DIDN'T ASK FOR US TO BE OUTED. You outed us yourself.Stephoscope wrote:
You tell me what exactly you think I should have done.elvis_knits wrote:Yeah, it's pretty convoluted.
But God, I hate the notions of masons being unconfirmed. I think the point of being masons is you know the other one is town and you work together. If you don't know the other is town it's just the same as not being masons, except you can talk out of thread, which it sounds like SSK is not doing. The whole thing is massively annoying to me.
Or perhaps I am cranky.
I think I expected steph to be more helpful sorting this out, too.
What exactly would I want to say to SSK in private that I wouldn't want to post here?
I have already asked exactly how I could have been more helpful as a mason, with a partner who is unconfirmed and was acting strangely and beligerent. I've also asked about why he might have wanted the masons outed, if that was his goal with all this behavior.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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If I have to post often, then I post with little content and not that great ideas of who's scum. Seeing as you guys would policy llynch me if I didn't post for 48 hours I can't get a good view. I've been trying to make my mason work as a team, but he isn't really coooperating well.Xylthixlm wrote:MafiaSSK: While you're here, if you're town, I want a complete explanation of why you're behaving the way you are. All of it.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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STOP ASSUMING I HAVENT BEEN USING THE QT. I have been. It's been Steth who hasn't. I've posted the last three messages all asking for people to post. My unexplained Fos on Elvis was from gut. My unexplained Fos at Xyl was from constant pushing of a me lynch which would not be good for a Day 3 lynch.Nuwen wrote:Why do people keep calling the wagon on MafiaSSK a utility lynch? The case against him isn't policy based: his L-5 vote on Zwet came without explanation and stayed on until lynch, he's proved that hecancomment on game events but refuses to, his PR is either fake or less restrictive than he originally portrayed, his mason role is unconfirmed (and he isn't using the QT for any pro-town ends), and the only other scumhunting he's done all game are unexplained FoSes at Xyl and Elvis. When asked to present a case, he responded with "I don't feel like it."
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No comment.Xylthixlm wrote:
:!::!::!::!::!:MafiaSSK wrote: STOP ASSUMING I HAVENT BEEN USING THE QT. I have been. It's been Steth who hasn't. I've posted the last three messages all asking for people to post.
"People"? So your QT has more than just you and Stephoscope.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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Tell me what you'll find from a me lynch?Nuwen wrote:Quick, someone claim daycop-vigilante-recruiting mason.
I disagree, especially after I make it clear that MafiaSSK's lynch is not policy related. No one gets to jump on this wagon screaming "LURKER LYNCH" or any neutral/null utility reasoning.MafiaSSK wrote: @Nuwen a me Day 3 lynch would be bad because it has so little info for a Day 3 lynch.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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And if I flipped town?(which I will)Nuwen wrote:When you flip scum, I'll be pretty sure that the half of Zwet's wagon prior to your vote contains at least one busser: {roflcopter, ortolan, antihero, elvis_knits}
We can also decide what to do with Steph at that point, as masons is a common gambit claim to make (trying to figure out what Steph's interpretation of you singular versus you plural means in his role PM means in this imbroglio). I'm not sure whether to suspect a town-mason pair or two scum flat-out pretending to be masons. If both of you are in fact scum (with no ability to daytalk), the lack of QT interaction makes quite a bit of sense.
We also get your pretty wagon to analyze. I'm not going to continue speculating where scum votes on MafiaSSK might lie, lest I create a nasty WIFOM situation that'll be useless for real scumhunting later on.Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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I have scumhunted. I am incapable of making a case. I have never ever in my year of playing here been able to do so. I've also explained myself.Nuwen wrote:I will find you IRL and beat you senseless. Seriously, why would you join a game and play this way as town? I hate shifting the burden of proof in your direction, but I'm hardpressed to see any of your actions coming from a pro-town perspective. You've even been given an opportunity to explain yourself, make cases, and scumhunt (which would presumably work towards your win condition - you are playing to win, right).Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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MafiaSSK Jack of All Trades
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MafiaSSK Jack of All Trades
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Wait when was I being a bad sport?roflcopter wrote:we are not lynching mafiassk because being a piss poor player and a piss poor sport does not make him scum, and none of the arguments for why he is scum are anything more than "lol look at how badly he's playing his role"Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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MafiaSSK Jack of All Trades
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I do not deny this.Xylthixlm wrote:
So you don't deny being a piss poor player?MafiaSSK wrote:
Wait when was I being a bad sport?roflcopter wrote:we are not lynching mafiassk because being a piss poor player and a piss poor sport does not make him scum, and none of the arguments for why he is scum are anything more than "lol look at how badly he's playing his role"Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.-
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MafiaSSK Jack of All Trades
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MafiaSSK Jack of All Trades
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MafiaSSK Jack of All Trades
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- Posts: 5338
- Joined: November 25, 2007
- Location: Washington, D.C.