Mini 727 - Mafia in Standardville - Game Over

[tubby216]

well hello there some familar faces in this game, panzer, charter lowell, hiya to the rest of you nice to meet you all,

unvote

now here is what i got so far (please correct me if i am wrong)

artem -claimed townie, so far i see no reason not to believe it, I also like where he attacks panzer in the post above i believe panzer should have been call on that, however let me explain my position on pressure votes.

pressure votes should not be used to run some pone up to a claim then emidately backed off of, the should be use to see how someone will react to real stress, will they sit quietly and wait till l-1 then claim, or will they squirm and use wifom arguments or make omgus cases to start other wagons, all of these these thing i feel are valuable when hunting scum.

darox- claimed pgo, wich was his first real post of the game, if he is a PGO then he has played it correctly. I believe a PGO should claim immediately after confirming to avoid any pro town role getting nk’d accidentily,


lynx,- I really don’t like your posts at all nor do I like your reaction to Darox’s claim, I also don’t like your disagreement with xdaamo, pressure votes are good anytime of the game not solely at the beginning.

So I am going to conclude this with

vote lynx

Will continue reading and give analysis on the rest of you later

[tubby216]

@charter- fair enough, i see your point

[tubby216]

lynx,- I really don’t like your posts at all nor do I like your reaction to Darox’s claim, I also don’t like your disagreement with xdaamo, pressure votes are good anytime of the game not solely at the beginning.

So I am going to conclude this with

vote lynx

So you don't like the fact that I'm naturally skeptical to a claim that makes you a weapon to any night actions? Especially when it spawns from the player's first post in the game? I believe others shared a similar reaction.

You don't like my disagreement with a scummy Xdaamno who hasn't defended himself too well to the reason he placed any of his votes. If you're referring specifically to the pressure vote aspect, then that has no correlation on my town alignment. My views about how to utilize a pressure vote are mafia and simply a null tell.

Waiting to hear Xdaamno's response tomorrow. But I've already stated my feelings on him. Nothing's changed even with his reponses to my questions so far. We'll see what he has to say tommorow.

Ruck, weall have those moments where we feel we're not playing great, but you're really doing fine. You've been trying to play to your best and that's all everybody can ask for(Incredibly cliche) Anyway you're new don't worry about it keep playing and you'll improve. We need all the active posters we can get.

no quite simply put i diddn't like your reaction to anything and it all seem scum motivated to me. quite actually it was the first time while reading a game thread that i had anything jump out at me like that

[tubby216]

ok lynx i re-read the thread agian this time a lil more objectively and figure i was wrong.

so

unvote

the more i read xdaamo the more i see what you guys are talkin about.

@xdaamo it seems as if you are talkin in circles and your logic is hard for me to follow.

[tubby216]

please note my signature,

and with that i am going to

vote xdaamo

[tubby216]

i am still kinda here but i am not sure how quickly i will be able to respond,

i just don't like what he has to say, and i find his responses anti-town

[tubby216]

Xdaamno, are you gonna just not do your promised player analysis now that a convenient new wagon has formed that could save you today?

I see Charter's point that Panzer has latched on to many of the arguments of the day. I still think Xdaamno's the better lynch at the moment. He's jumped on another wagon(Panzer's now). Seems all his play is driven by a strong desire for self preservation. Not townie behavior to me.

agreed i like this post

[tubby216]

@charter
no i diddn't see the need to vote you or fos you at the time because i have seen you do more scummy stuff in a game as town so i am willing to let it slide


panzer doesn't bother me that much but i am getting annoyed at xdaamo and feel that he is the correct lynch for today

[tubby216]

t;]@charter
no i diddn't see the need to vote you or fos you at the time because i have seen you do more scummy stuff in a game as town so i am willing to let it slide


panzer doesn't bother me that much but i am getting annoyed at xdaamo and feel that he is the correct lynch for today

You're being uncooperative town. I have asked you many times over to justify your bizzare attacks, and you seem to think it is fine to ignore me and repeat yourself. If you want to be playing the best you can, it is vital you review your own case and make sure you have not been fooled or self-deceptive, which means throwing away "vibes" unless you can back them up.

Here's a good question for you to answer: "what makes someone more likely to annoy you if they are scum?"

hush,
i play the way i play
i see you attacks as argumentative and annoying. I dislike your holier than thou appraoch to tone in your posts and i feel you need to be lynched, and as far as attacks i really haven't made any other that agreeing with what lynx has said. So in closing look eslwhere to engage in a thread dominating argument for i won't be your huckleberry on that one.

[tubby216]

exactly and i am playing this game the way i see fit to play it. Obv I feel that your "logical questions" do not require a response for me. So in short yes I am intentionally blowing you off.

[tubby216]

sorry not lurking i have limited access due to my frickin job ( i hates the government!!!) but anywho i like my vote where it is

[tubby216]

wow ok then re-reading but lookin a charter in isolation

[tubby216]

Still here still reading might be able to post thoughts either tonite or tomorrow

[tubby216]

i'm still workin on it the whole work thing blows ass, they extend my stay down here another i week i was supposed to be home by now,,

i charter in isolation and nothing popped out at me

i re-read lynx appears to be goin back and forth with scummy posts/towns posts

[tubby216]

i'm sorry i will try to do better to devote more time to this game

[tubby216]

i believe charters claim, but i don't see his case on panzer. I don't believe panzer needs to be the lynch today.

i read lynx agian, and i see panzer's case so

vote: lynx

[tubby216]

@artem,
so do you feel lowell is far scummier than lynx??

[tubby216]

see i don't get it charter is lynx is scummy and panzer is scummy why not focus on lynx and then go after panzer tomorrow as his partner? I mean what your doing now looks awfully suspicious. It appears to be alot of misdirection and running a smoke screen to save lynx.

so either both panzer and lynx are scum,
or
lynx is scum panzer is innocent and you are tryin to save your buddy.


either way my vote will stay on lynx

[tubby216]

if you flipp town probably charter.

the more i think about it the less charter's hider claim holds water.

the answers he gave me seem to be a lil like givin himself an out incase you do flip town.

[tubby216]

those are some good points lynx

i have seen panzer react with this much emotion wether he was town or scum so at this point its a null tell for me,

however the constant back and forth is a distraction

[tubby216]

Personally I don't see why Lowell, Lynx and I are the only cases that can be made. I can see a case being made for Master Ruck or Tubby. It is scummy for limiting the town's options to just 3 lynchs and

FoS:on anyone who has done so

The only other possible lynch right now beside Lynx is you, how am I throwing my vote around? Between you and Lynx?

So by your very own logic, panzer, you should FoS yourself for your scummy actions of limiting a lynch to even less than what you originally contested against.

waiting on a response from panzer on that

[tubby216]

well i thought i ha a pretty good grasp on this game apparantly not

[tubby216]

ok i heard enough

untvote: vote: panzer

[tubby216]

what would you have me do lynx? everyone had already said all that needed to be said. so rather than parraot what everyone else had already siad i agreed and joined them.

[tubby216]

i killed lynx,, i felt he was scum

i am a one shot vig now i am done so i can kill no more

[tubby216]

pretty much, i figured i should claim now so that way we don't spend half the day in wondering about who killed lynx, now we can get back to business

oh and before i forget and he gets offended,, HI freeko welcome to the game

[tubby216]

well to me i thought lynx had more scummy moments, like he was flying just a shade to far under the radar for my liking. like he was trying to hard to do just enough to be town


i diddn't want to kill lowell or art due to panzer's post i wanted to see how they reacted,


although now in hindsight i should have shot lowel he was on my list it was either him or lynx i chose lynx.

although now in hindsight i may have just single handly won the game for the scum, i'd glady go to the gallows for my actions but i am not sure how close to lylo we are,

will re-read and post thoughts on dan,lowell and art

[tubby216]

i only have one shot, i diddn't want to burn it with nothing to go on

[tubby216]

dan did you already claim?

[tubby216]

sure we can claim

[tubby216]

ahh that sounds like a sound play freeko, i support his with holding

[tubby216]

oh btw offtopic happy birthday charter

[tubby216]

ok so now that all is said and done is dan the best lynch??

[tubby216]

wow well that all seems plausible but i asure you freeko i am a one shot vig,

[tubby216]

dan in the case you presented yo mentioned looking at lowell and panzer relationships did you find anything?

[tubby216]

i appologize fore my absence, i had system errors and other crap to attent to,

but anyway i agree dan needs lynched,


although i do not like charters choice of who he should hide behind, it seem like a risky gambit to me.

[tubby216]

i say charter is town

[tubby216]

i'm game

[tubby216]

no you are talking yourself out of it,, we lynch lowell first,

it makes sense, no granted panzer did out him as scum but to me it would makes sense that panzer would out just one of his partners and point a finger at a townie hoping we would lynch the townie first there by proving lowell's innocence, so i say yah lynch lowell

vote: lowell

[tubby216]

Hell why not. I have more reason to think your vanilla claim is a fake. If you had anything to counter my claim on the other hand, then I wouldnt mind being lynched to guarantee a win. The problem I see is that a policy lynch on me doesnt guarantee a win, especially if someone flips town at this point. If there are 2 scum then the game is over. It could in fact guarantee a loss.

The only other scenario is that someone is blocking the possoible SK in tubby and the roles are 3-1-1. Even that doesnt bode well for the town if you remove a town player on the lynch. My plan would be to lynch tubby and remove the possible SK. If you are going to lynch anyone today just on suspicion, shouldnt you be lynching someone who at least has a chance to flip scum? I think lynching me is as absurd as lynching MR at this point.

so hammer lowell , why cause if its not you and its not mr then guess what it ain't me or charter so it must be lowell, can we lynch him now

[tubby216]

[tubby216]

just mr and freeko its just to easy i guess

[tubby216]

here is how i see either we tie our wagons to charter here and we lynch lowell, or we say screw it charter is full of crap and we lynch charter,, i mean charter has gotten us this far and is the only reason the game has progressed this far.

[tubby216]

^exactly

[tubby216]

vote: freeko

[tubby216]

if you are town and you laid out the plan i was following it

[tubby216]

either way if i was scum i would wait its the scummy thing to do,

[tubby216]

look charter how long does this take for you to figure out,

freeko is going to come in call me all kinds of scum for voting him so quickly then vote me back leaving you in the same situation u are in now,

you are the one who said if its not lowell then its freeko, so whats is the issue here?

[tubby216]

i just told you what he is going to say





fine

unvote

we will dragg this out for like ever and come to the same conclusion

[tubby216]

are you sure thats the play you wanna make right now??

seriously

[tubby216]

vote freeko

[tubby216]

woo hoo charter i am so noming you for a scummy , best town play,,,

[tubby216]

i loved this game really well done llama,

and to llama or charter if you are ever stuck and need a replacement let me know i'll be happy to

infact everyone in this game was really good to play with


dorax to claim pgo was a stroke of genius!!

[tubby216]

Darox- Nice fake town claim though it threw me off a little with my suspects.

Tubby- Why did you kill me?! Was it something I did or said that offended you?! Seriously, though I don't think I was the best kill and I thought I was pretty clearly town with my being on top of Panzerscum. Whatever though no big deal except that I'll hold and intense grudge against you(Just kidding).

Charter- Simply brilliant play man. Honestly this is why I like mafia when you can control the game like this. You took the reins as town leader and you dominated it.

Llama- I thought you did a great modding job. Better than alot of mods I've seen.

lynx agian it was a mistake,, you were posting like just enough to be town in my eyes but some of your posts made me think you were kind of scummy too, then when panzer had outed his partners as it were in his death / pre bah post i thought well it must be lynx then, it was really bad form on my part, i should have shot nite one or saved it till near endgame something but yah i screwed you over i am sorry
you will more than likely get a free pass from me next game i happen to be in with you lol