You're right that the probability goes up with each vote. But how do you distinguish which come from scum, if any, when all three are random/joke votes?Magus_Stragus wrote: @Kmd: Your three votes might seem random, but there's also a probability that mafia (not all of them, though), it's behind of one of those votes. Just saying that, though. After my first game, I've learnt that being/putting someone half-way from the total votes needed to lynch is a bad thing.
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I'm gonna try to say this as clearly as possible, so there is no misunderstanding. I have no problems with random votes evenly disbursed amongst players over all. Once an actual bandwagon forms, I would like there to be *some* reason given for voting. I get antsy for reasons around the halfway-to-lynch mark. Mainly because at that point, I no longer feel the votes are random unless people are using a dice roller and the natural laws of probability are being bent over.ShowHouse of Mirrors- Dead
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Eh... the only reason they wouldn't be random anymore is because it's a BANDWAGON. Halfway to lynch point is not really a milestone. Personally I like joining early game bandwagons to get things going. Mainly because it gets things going.Shadow wrote: I'm gonna try to say this as clearly as possible, so there is no misunderstanding. I have no problems with random votes evenly disbursed amongst players over all. Once an actual bandwagon forms, I would like there to be *some* reason given for voting. I get antsy for reasons around the halfway-to-lynch mark. Mainly because at that point, I no longer feel the votes are random unless people are using a dice roller and the natural laws of probability are being bent over.Untrod Tripod (7:27:18 PM): you enjoy whoring
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Eh? Could you please, at least post your reasons for your vote? Because I can clearly not see them.IH wrote:
DONEMagus wrote:So, Shadow Knight, what do you suggest then? You think that we should then just keep random voting until somebody screams "I'm mafia!"?
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@IH- yes, the bandwagon is the turning point from random votes to real. That's what I'm saying. Once it becomes a bandwagon, I'd like to hear why peoplea re voting that person. From what you've said I could see you saying "because everyone else is doing it". I personally don't think that's a good enough reason to vote, but it gives me something to work with as far as getting a feel for your motives. I find that bandwagons tend to give me more information about the people voting than the person being voted.ShowHouse of Mirrors- Dead
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Sorry, totally forgot this game existed.
Already read up, and I have to say a lot of people are taking the random voting stage way too seriously. I'll have to think for a bit, but my vote is probably going to land on one of these people.Game Record (W-L-T)
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How is being serious in what some may still consider the RVS scummy?BlakAdder wrote:Sorry, totally forgot this game existed.
Already read up, and I have to say a lot of people are taking the random voting stage way too seriously. I'll have to think for a bit, but my vote is probably going to land on one of these people.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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It's not terribly scummy, it's just that it seems like they're trying to make things that aren't scummy seem scummy. Also, they're the only big-time scummy players so far. If someone else does something worthy of my vote, I'll gladly switch my vote.Game Record (W-L-T)
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How else will the game get started?BlakAdder wrote:It's not terribly scummy, it's just that it seems like they're trying to make things that aren't scummy seem scummy.
You aren't voting.Blak wrote:If someone else does something worthy of my vote, I'll gladly switch my vote.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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If no one ever takes it serious, then how do you get out of the RVS?BlakAdder wrote:Sorry, totally forgot this game existed.
Already read up, and I have to say a lot of people are taking the random voting stage way too seriously. I'll have to think for a bit, but my vote is probably going to land on one of these people.
Which is normally the best way to get things moving along and out of the RVS, so whats the problem?BlakAdder wrote:It's not terribly scummy, it's just that it seems like they're trying to make things that aren't scummy seem scummy. Also, they're the only big-time scummy players so far. If someone else does something worthy of my vote, I'll gladly switch my vote.
I'm not liking him being against being serious in the RVS, as thats how you get out of it. And how he is reluctant to vote. its not like he has to go and reread again before voting, since we are only on page three.
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I'm not voting anyone.Magus_Stragus wrote:I still want to know why SK voted for me...ShowHouse of Mirrors- Dead
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Let me get this straight; you mean that Empking was trying to rush the rvs by asking Kmd if his FoS was serious?Magus_Stragus wrote:
Well, first, I agree with you regarding that townies want the RVS to end as soon as possible to have more time for serious discussion. However, the RVS is important, as it lets us start with the game properly, and rushing it when we have not yet something to start with is not good, imo.Kmd4390 wrote: What are your thoughts on recent posts by ac and myself?
What exactly made you learn that? Do you seriously see the L-3 on Kmd as a threat?Magus_Stragus wrote:@Kmd: Your three votes might seem random, but there's also a probability that mafia (not all of them, though), it's behind of one of those votes. Just saying that, though.After my first game, I've learnt that being/putting someone half-way from the total votes needed to lynch is a bad thing.-
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To put it simple, yes.Tuberkulos wrote:
Let me get this straight; you mean that Empking was trying to rush the rvs by asking Kmd if his FoS was serious?Magus_Stragus wrote:
Well, first, I agree with you regarding that townies want the RVS to end as soon as possible to have more time for serious discussion. However, the RVS is important, as it lets us start with the game properly, and rushing it when we have not yet something to start with is not good, imo.Kmd4390 wrote: What are your thoughts on recent posts by ac and myself?
More like a treat, I see it as a possible scumtell. As I said, there's a chance that the votes are just random, but there's also a chance that it's an early bandgwagon pushed by the mafia (probably just one of them).Tuberkulos wrote:
What exactly made you learn that? Do you seriously see the L-3 on Kmd as a threat?Magus_Stragus wrote:@Kmd: Your three votes might seem random, but there's also a probability that mafia (not all of them, though), it's behind of one of those votes. Just saying that, though.After my first game, I've learnt that being/putting someone half-way from the total votes needed to lynch is a bad thing.If God wanted us to see the beauty of sunrises, He would surely have put them after 10:00 am.
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