This.Xtoxm wrote:!xmafia help terrorist mastermind
!vote: Empking's Alt
!xmafia votesXylthixlm wrote:If you want testsetups, go on IRC and get them yourself, you lazy slackers.
I'll try to remember to put the xmafia help for any dead roles in the thread.
You people, specially you Tar, are understanding this wrong. The only thing I wanted to do was to prevent a quicklynch. The pressure was already there, so there would not be more retarded votes using that as an excuse.Tarhalindur wrote:This post is fucking bullshit. A lot of summary, not much interpretation, and what interpretation there is looks crappy (Why should we stop a wagon just because the wagonee is already pressured? Do you think UROE is scum, and if so for what reasons?) with the possible exception of anti-town=/=scum (I've been waffling over whether this is valid of late). This post looks like summary-IIoA to me (dodging commentary by giving summaries).populartajo wrote:I see the current situation as this:
Tar attacked zwet and Kev for weak reasons, IMO. He excused himself with he does silly thing at the beginning of the game.
The rabbit called rolfcopter went crazy against him for reasons I find good enough for post randomstage. I know the rabbit and I can understand his point of view.
The interesting part comes from two sources. Kevy's reaction and Tar's reactions.
Kevy is obviously a IRCer, right? I rally dont like how every post of him there is something like "Im not sure you are scum, you are antitown as shit, so I vote you". I dont know if this is something from IRC but if you are not sure someone is scum then you simply dont vote it just because he is antitown and attacking you.
Now Tar, well its strange. I really thought he was the good player that avoided weak attacks like his at the beginning at the game (Really, attacking zwet?) I really dont know what to think of him other than he is either scum trapped in a series of not so well calculated lies or town trying desesperately to get off the hook without looking worse every time he posts. (something difficult with the rabbit going crazy against him).
Of course I would suggest stopping the wagon on him. Either town or scum Tar is obviously already pressured.
In a second plane, Im really interested in UROE. I have the feeling that he is defending Tar but at the same time supporting Kevi. Can you explain clearly whats your stance in all this mess?
Also, where the fuck is your usual "you don't give away information as town that might help scum this early in the game" mindset?
!vote populartajo
No he didnt modify it.UnofficialRulerOfEveryone wrote:Actually, we (had) the same number of votes, so that's bullshit there...
@tajo
Technically, yes, but only if the bot even has this setup in it, remember that Xyl "modified" the setup used in this game so it would be balanced, there is no guarantee that that plan would work.
Falco needs to die.UnofficialRulerOfEveryone wrote:Fixed.roflcopter wrote:tanarin has a higher than average chance of beinga uroe scumbuddyboth sane (personally, not in-game) and a very talented and experienced IRC player.
incidentally, uroe still needs more votes to get lynched.hop to it guys.
This is D1, I think that we should at least try and listen to what the more experienced IRC players say. I expect them to be killed because they will be the ones to really spot fakeclaims and such. Also, knowledge of the bot spitting out killing roles is helpful, so I see where Phate is going, but it's stupid.
I dont think is a bad wagon. Can you reread UROE and his opinions of Tar/Kevy and come back with an opinion?Tanarin wrote:rofl, maybe I do need to re-read uroe again, but when I first read, it seemed most people were jumping him over "Stalling" a MC.
Let's look at the votes shal we?
KScope: Voted URoE after he tried to answer Xtoxm's question about what roles could possibly want to be lynched. I would still like to know how why he felt UROE was "Jumping out of windows."
zwet: His vote never actually counted, but he tied to vote URoE for "stalling" the MC, saying only scum would stall. As an aside he so far is the only one to actually claim his role and did so without even being asked.
DGB: Voted because he refused to claim (Post 127.) DGB then goes and kinda makes it feel as if the entire town wants a MC when at that point it was only zwet, Phate, and DGB. DGB has since switched to Tubby.
rofl: You voted uroe because you felt that DGB was bussing UROE. What exactly made you believe this is the result of scum bussing a partner and not scum making a townie look bad? Especially given that DGB switched up votes later on.
tajo: No reason given from what I can see.
So again, bad wagon is bad.
As long as you dont ask a replacement its all cool.Tarhalindur wrote:populartajo wrote:Tan, when did the only part of UROE's case being scum become "refusing to MC"?
Also where the hell is Tar?Hint: There's a reason I made that post. It's called "I may not have time to post because I'm fucking busy in real life" (it's also why my modded games are a bit short on vote counts/replacements right now). The last two days are good examples of this.Tarhalindur wrote:Also, since I may not have as much time to post for the next few days:
Mod: I am V/LA for at least the next week (can post, just not as much.)
Expect more later tonight.
UROE wrote:Tar plays like this in the beginning of most games,and I am usually able to see town-Tar's thinking, if he's thinking what I believe, it makes sense, but I know Kevy too, so I have reason to believe that this is genuine kevy play and not the scum tell Tar is making it out to be.
UROE wrote:I'm getting town vibes from Tar, based mostly on the fact that I can read what I think he is trying to do and it makes sense, but kevy isn't affected by the argument for the points he brought up in his last post.
Tell me what do you think of this. And what part of Tar's behaviour in this game can produce town vibes...Tanarin wrote:4) Tar: Your excuse to vote Kevy is very weak. Yes, he could easily fudge stuff, but him showing a possible testsetup (Which everyone has access to) is hardly speculating or inside info. I also don't get where Kev "let it slip" that Mafia didn't hit their intended target. All I gather from his posts up to that point is that he is surprised there were not more kills, which considering this is a xylbot setup, is weird. You then vote rofl for counterclaiming. Again xylbot can throw out "weaker" roles multiple times. This could easily mean we have multiple cops and odds are at least one of them are not sane.
Well that puts me up to about post 80. I'll read more later but I have a feeling I'll need to do a really deep read on TAR in the near future. I'm not liking what I am seeing from him ATM.
So anyone with this ability who targetted you would get watch or block?UnofficialRulerOfEveryone wrote:Like, which ability a role has? No.populartajo wrote:Is there any role that can detect abilities?
Like, if someone has an ability? I think so.
Im asking that if someone has that role (can detect abilities) would he have got "block" or "watch"?UnofficialRulerOfEveryone wrote:What?populartajo wrote:So anyone with this ability who targetted you would get watch or block?UnofficialRulerOfEveryone wrote:Like, which ability a role has? No.populartajo wrote:Is there any role that can detect abilities?
Like, if someone has an ability? I think so.
Also, I just noticed the fact that my role said block... I saw watcher and confirmed... I know enough about IRC to know what a watcher does. I have PMd Xyl about the fact that it says block.
Also, die please.Vir wrote:Shadow Knight and Tubby, I think you should lay off each other for a bit. Look at some other people. Your focusing is doing nothing to help the town, and is getting big enough to be quite a distraction. Nevermind each other -- who else do you think is scum and why?
L-1.armlx wrote:Nice post?zwetschenwasser wrote:TUBBY IS NOT SCUM. HE HAS A GOOD CLAIM AND LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PERSON.
I'm interested in getting somewhere, and that place is not a hascows lynch. Vir seems legit.
!vote Vir
Ah ok.Xtoxm wrote:No they stay mafia. The thing up there just means the original (me) can only be town and surv.populartajo wrote:Xyl, so I assume that if a mafia player targets a gree goo the would become town or alignment doesnt change?
I have no idea. Min 2. Or there is something that indicates otherwise?Xtoxm wrote:Me, tubby, Zwet, Hasd. I believe that's it.
Tar/SD going first would be good, or just claims as you get in would also be cool.
(if we are MCing, that is) I think it's time to.
How many scum left you think? Just the 1?
i missed this. why was he confirmed town?roflcopter wrote:did you read day oneat all? or day two? kevy has been confirmed town for a long time. there was no question about his alignment.
kkroflcopter wrote:because i said so. no, really, thats why.populartajo wrote:i missed this. why was he confirmed town?roflcopter wrote:did you read day oneat all? or day two? kevy has been confirmed town for a long time. there was no question about his alignment.
i do remember it but i have this crazy feeling that tar faked it.roflcopter wrote:tajo, you were intimately involved in the pissing match that went on between kevy, tar and myself day one, so i'm surprised you don't remember it, but then it was a long time ago. anyway, after we cleared the air over that whole thing i'm pretty much convinced tar is town.
yeah, i dont like your play in this game.Tarhalindur wrote:More to the point, I'd like to hear reasons for those votes on me. I was suspicious of Empking even before he voted me for no stated reason, then asked for a claim with no reasoning given.
More interesting is poptajo - is there a reason why I "should have claimed long ago"?