Crackers! Mafia -- Game Over. See page 50

[Elmo]

Like I'd ever make that kind of mistake. Pfft!

[vollkan]

Incidentally, vollkan, who do you currently suspect? You had everyone alive other than Korts ranked at 50 and below in that list of yours.

Proceeding backwards, I don't suspect Des or yourself. Korts' play I find suspect, but it seems most likely he is either vig or SK. As of now, my mafia suspects are between DGB, Pop, and Elmo, and I am going to have to reread them closely to get a better idea.

More importantly though,

I claim Cop. I got an innocent on BM Day 1, didn't manage to get anything in on Day 2, innocent on Raging Rabbit Day 3, and I just got a guilty on Vollkan. The crumbs are the X! on BM in my list, and my fairly obvious turnaround on Rabbit when I said I was sure he didn't bus Yos right after saying he was the 'odd one out' and not being very sure about him.

This is why I am 99% sure there's a mafia roleblocker, by the way; cop + doc in a game almost always means RB.

So, yeah. What I already said.

Well that's game. Vig me. Lynch Elmo. Lynch Korts.

[Adel]

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votecount as of 1051

_{with 7 alive, 4 will lynch before deadline}

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vollkan:

1

:populartajo,

¬No Lynch:

none

not voting:

6

:destructor, DrippingGoofball, Elmo, Korts, populartajo, Raging Rabbit, vollkan

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Day 4's deadline is December 31st at 08:08 (UTC)

Countdown timer to deadline

[destructor]

Like I'd ever make that kind of mistake. Pfft!

LOL.

Hmm.

Then there's not that much to argue about here.

Well that's game. Vig me. Lynch Elmo. Lynch Korts.

Sounds like the best plan, assuming the game doesn't end with vollkan's death.

[Elmo]

I suppose there's a bunch of stuff I could say, but it's not really that relevant or interesting. Trying not to be actively townish

and

fairly obviously not actively scummy is really weird. I did want to survive unclaimed until around day 4, and I just about got there. Wish I'd picked someone other than BM, though, I was amazed by that lynch.

Wondering if Korts' kill will actually go through, and what provably having a mafia roleblocker present means.

Zzz.

[DrippingGoofball]

I claim Cop. I got an innocent on BM Day 1, didn't manage to get anything in on Day 2, innocent on Raging Rabbit Day 3, and I just got a guilty on Vollkan. The crumbs are the X! on BM in my list, and my fairly obvious turnaround on Rabbit when I said I was sure he didn't bus Yos right after saying he was the 'odd one out' and not being very sure about him.

This is why I am 99% sure there's a mafia roleblocker, by the way; cop + doc in a game almost always means RB.

So, yeah. What I already said.

How come you let us lynch BM?

[DrippingGoofball]

vollkan is an unlikely candidate given the excessive amount of bussing he needed to have done as scum.

Please do not underestimate vollkan's love of bus'ing.

[destructor]

DGB, BM was quick lynched courtesy of rofl and I.
vollkan is the best play right now - if he flips town, we know that Elmo is lying and lynch him. I'm mostly just waiting for Korts to put the kill in for now.

[DrippingGoofball]

Like I'd ever make that kind of mistake. Pfft!

LOL.

Hmm.

Then there's not that much to argue about here.

Well that's game. Vig me. Lynch Elmo. Lynch Korts.

Sounds like the best plan, assuming the game doesn't end with vollkan's death.

Why does he want us to lynch Elmo if his investigation is correct?

[Elmo]

I wasn't actually around at the time, I popped in purely to say hi and read the last page or so, at which point my eyes budged out at what he'd gotten himself into. I was in no state to do anything, so I went to bed; when I came back the next day, someone had accidentally hammered.

I just figured he'd live longer, and people wouldn't be trigger-happy. In retrospect, it's easy to see he was a sub-par choice, but in most games he doesn't seem to get lynched much "because he's BM". (shrug)

It's not even a bus-happy move from him, by the way, she was going down in flames, and Yos was a ticking time bomb. The killer is the way a) he was the

only

person to see things from Des' point of view quickly b) his stated reasons for FL-scum were very thin relative to his style.

[Elmo]

Apparently hitting submit is a good idea.

Oh. Yeah. We have at least a tracker, a doctor, and a cop. What I was worried about was IF my read of Korts was wrong, then he's a vig, and we have AT LEAST tracker + doc + cop + c. vig vs. mafia. And in that case I suppose it's plausible there would be 4 mafia. Everyone's analysis seems to suggest three mafia, but I'm curious to see how that changes if (for the moment, I suppose hypothetically from your point of view) you add a cop into the mix. I don't know how far this goes towards rolefishing, so maybe people'd be more comfortable waiting until after Vollkan dies.

This is just me being paranoid, but y'know, sometimes it pays off. If there's three, that's game, so examining the possibility of more makes sense.

[vollkan]

Like I'd ever make that kind of mistake. Pfft!

LOL.

Hmm.

Then there's not that much to argue about here.

Well that's game. Vig me. Lynch Elmo. Lynch Korts.

Sounds like the best plan, assuming the game doesn't end with vollkan's death.

Why does he want us to lynch Elmo if his investigation is correct?

Because his investigation

isn't

correct, but I've been in this situation often enough to know that the investigatee is always the best lynchee (or, in this case, viggee)

[Korts]

Hmm, interesting stuff. Sending the kill on vollkan now.

[vollkan]

Go town!

[vollkan]

Go town!!

[destructor]

It's been more than 2 hours since Korts says he submitted the kill and Adel has posted on site without posting a death scene.

Assuming no kill goes through...
1. Korts has been blocked
or
2. Korts is the SK who didn't sent his kill in.

Mod:

Is the SK immune to it's own kills?

Elmo, why'd you investigate vollkan and not Korts?


If Korts' kill doesn't happen, I think we should lynch vollkan anyway. If he's town, we get Korts to kill Elmo tomorrow and, assuming the game doesn't end, the numbers will probably look something like this:
5 Alive, made of 0-1 Mafia, 0-1 SK, 3-4 Town

If one of the Mafia is still alive and kills:
4 Alive, made of 0-1 Mafia, 0-1 SK, 2-3 Town, which could be LYLO.

This is a little scary.

[Korts]

Adel has acknowledged my PM (quoted it back to me). So if the death scene isn't posted withing 36 hours, we can assume I was blocked.

[Raging Rabbit]

Interesting stuff. I'd say a 3 person scumgroup + SK is far liklier than a 4 person scumgroup, and Korts I belive is anti town anyways. Question is,

mod

, does the SK's random kill go off at the end of the day even if he gets lynched? 'Cause if it doesn't, we lynch Korts and it's more or less an auto-win.

[Elmo]

Maybe I am missing something, but I don't see what a Korts investigation buys us. I did actually um and arr between Vollkan and Tajo, but I still believe Tajo is town, and claiming an innocent like that would be fairly weak sauce. There is also the point that if (somehow) Vollkan is town, we need to know about it now.

We have 3 pretty-much-confirmed innocents (Des, RR, DGB). I need to sketch stuff out, but I think we're pretty much home free unless we've got a SK + 4-strong mafia group, which is the absolutely worst case. I actually think I can sort-of break it from here, but it involves a massclaim and a bit of balance speculation. Might be better for someone (e.g. Des) less involved to do the analysis instead, though.

What do people think about the mafia being essentially confirmed as having a roleblocker?

[DrippingGoofball]

How am I confirmed innocent? I must have skipped that chapter.

[Adel]

Death Scene

vollkan, an Inuit Mafia Goon, has been killed

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votecount as of 1069

_{with 6 alive, 4 will lynch before deadline}

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vollkan:

1

:populartajo,

¬No Lynch:

none

not voting:

6

:destructor, DrippingGoofball, Elmo, Korts, populartajo, Raging Rabbit, vollkan

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Day 4's deadline is December 31st at 08:08 (UTC)

Countdown timer to deadline

[Korts]

Cool.

Adel:

the votecount's off. With vollkan newly

wed

dead, it should be 6 alive, 4 to lynch.

thanks for pointing that out. I'll fix it now. ~Adel

[Elmo]

Ding ding ding.

That is weird. I would have thought the mafia have a RB with cop+doc in the setup. Are we looking at a four person mafia?

o o

Vollkan's reaction is certainly consistent with pretty much either 3 or 4. But I woulda thought they'd have blocked Korts. Ugh.

Does c. sk vs. 3 mafia vs. tracker + doc + cop seem at all balanced to people?

dgb, des and raging rabbit are all surely town, so i think we're in pretty great shape right now.

is almost certainly the list of people he protected. Actually, I suppose it's possible the scum simply didn't get a kill in on day 2, so at least one of those might not be confirmed. Hrm. I suppose not confirmed, then.. I was just taking rofl literally, so to speak.

[DrippingGoofball]

Go town!!

Mmmm, that was not sincere...

But Yay! I wasn't wrong about every player!

[DrippingGoofball]

Ding ding ding.

That is weird. I would have thought the mafia have a RB with cop+doc in the setup. Are we looking at a four person mafia?

o o

Vollkan's reaction is certainly consistent with pretty much either 3 or 4. But I woulda thought they'd have blocked Korts. Ugh

Maybe they didn't have time?