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Proceeding backwards, I don't suspect Des or yourself. Korts' play I find suspect, but it seems most likely he is either vig or SK. As of now, my mafia suspects are between DGB, Pop, and Elmo, and I am going to have to reread them closely to get a better idea.RR wrote: Incidentally, vollkan, who do you currently suspect? You had everyone alive other than Korts ranked at 50 and below in that list of yours.
More importantly though,
Well that's game. Vig me. Lynch Elmo. Lynch Korts.Elmo wrote: I claim Cop. I got an innocent on BM Day 1, didn't manage to get anything in on Day 2, innocent on Raging Rabbit Day 3, and I just got a guilty on Vollkan. The crumbs are the X! on BM in my list, and my fairly obvious turnaround on Rabbit when I said I was sure he didn't bus Yos right after saying he was the 'odd one out' and not being very sure about him.
This is why I am 99% sure there's a mafia roleblocker, by the way; cop + doc in a game almost always means RB.
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with 7 alive, 4 will lynch before deadline
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vollkan::populartajo,1
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I suppose there's a bunch of stuff I could say, but it's not really that relevant or interesting. Trying not to be actively townishandfairly obviously not actively scummy is really weird. I did want to survive unclaimed until around day 4, and I just about got there. Wish I'd picked someone other than BM, though, I was amazed by that lynch.
Wondering if Korts' kill will actually go through, and what provably having a mafia roleblocker present means.
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How come you let us lynch BM?Elmo wrote:I claim Cop. I got an innocent on BM Day 1, didn't manage to get anything in on Day 2, innocent on Raging Rabbit Day 3, and I just got a guilty on Vollkan. The crumbs are the X! on BM in my list, and my fairly obvious turnaround on Rabbit when I said I was sure he didn't bus Yos right after saying he was the 'odd one out' and not being very sure about him.
This is why I am 99% sure there's a mafia roleblocker, by the way; cop + doc in a game almost always means RB.
So, yeah. What I already said.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Please do not underestimate vollkan's love of bus'ing.Raging Rabbit wrote:vollkan is an unlikely candidate given the excessive amount of bussing he needed to have done as scum.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Why does he want us to lynch Elmo if his investigation is correct?destructor wrote:
LOL.Elmo wrote:Like I'd ever make that kind of mistake. Pfft!
Hmm.
Then there's not that much to argue about here.
Sounds like the best plan, assuming the game doesn't end with vollkan's death.vollkan wrote:Well that's game. Vig me. Lynch Elmo. Lynch Korts.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I wasn't actually around at the time, I popped in purely to say hi and read the last page or so, at which point my eyes budged out at what he'd gotten himself into. I was in no state to do anything, so I went to bed; when I came back the next day, someone had accidentally hammered.
I just figured he'd live longer, and people wouldn't be trigger-happy. In retrospect, it's easy to see he was a sub-par choice, but in most games he doesn't seem to get lynched much "because he's BM". (shrug)
It's not even a bus-happy move from him, by the way, she was going down in flames, and Yos was a ticking time bomb. The killer is the way a) he was theonlyperson to see things from Des' point of view quickly b) his stated reasons for FL-scum were very thin relative to his style.-
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Apparently hitting submit is a good idea.
Oh. Yeah. We have at least a tracker, a doctor, and a cop. What I was worried about was IF my read of Korts was wrong, then he's a vig, and we have AT LEAST tracker + doc + cop + c. vig vs. mafia. And in that case I suppose it's plausible there would be 4 mafia. Everyone's analysis seems to suggest three mafia, but I'm curious to see how that changes if (for the moment, I suppose hypothetically from your point of view) you add a cop into the mix. I don't know how far this goes towards rolefishing, so maybe people'd be more comfortable waiting until after Vollkan dies.
This is just me being paranoid, but y'know, sometimes it pays off. If there's three, that's game, so examining the possibility of more makes sense.-
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Because his investigationDrippingGoofball wrote:
Why does he want us to lynch Elmo if his investigation is correct?destructor wrote:
LOL.Elmo wrote:Like I'd ever make that kind of mistake. Pfft!
Hmm.
Then there's not that much to argue about here.
Sounds like the best plan, assuming the game doesn't end with vollkan's death.vollkan wrote:Well that's game. Vig me. Lynch Elmo. Lynch Korts.isn'tcorrect, but I've been in this situation often enough to know that the investigatee is always the best lynchee (or, in this case, viggee)-
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It's been more than 2 hours since Korts says he submitted the kill and Adel has posted on site without posting a death scene.
Assuming no kill goes through...
1. Korts has been blocked
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2. Korts is the SK who didn't sent his kill in.
Mod:Is the SK immune to it's own kills?
Elmo, why'd you investigate vollkan and not Korts?
If Korts' kill doesn't happen, I think we should lynch vollkan anyway. If he's town, we get Korts to kill Elmo tomorrow and, assuming the game doesn't end, the numbers will probably look something like this:
5 Alive, made of 0-1 Mafia, 0-1 SK, 3-4 Town
If one of the Mafia is still alive and kills:
4 Alive, made of 0-1 Mafia, 0-1 SK, 2-3 Town, which could be LYLO.
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Interesting stuff. I'd say a 3 person scumgroup + SK is far liklier than a 4 person scumgroup, and Korts I belive is anti town anyways. Question is,mod, does the SK's random kill go off at the end of the day even if he gets lynched? 'Cause if it doesn't, we lynch Korts and it's more or less an auto-win.-
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Maybe I am missing something, but I don't see what a Korts investigation buys us. I did actually um and arr between Vollkan and Tajo, but I still believe Tajo is town, and claiming an innocent like that would be fairly weak sauce. There is also the point that if (somehow) Vollkan is town, we need to know about it now.
We have 3 pretty-much-confirmed innocents (Des, RR, DGB). I need to sketch stuff out, but I think we're pretty much home free unless we've got a SK + 4-strong mafia group, which is the absolutely worst case. I actually think I can sort-of break it from here, but it involves a massclaim and a bit of balance speculation. Might be better for someone (e.g. Des) less involved to do the analysis instead, though.
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How am I confirmed innocent? I must have skipped that chapter.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Death Scene
vollkan, an Inuit Mafia Goon, has been killed
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vollkan::populartajo,1
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Countdown timer to deadlineLast edited by Adel on Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:38 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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Ding ding ding.
That is weird. I would have thought the mafia have a RB with cop+doc in the setup. Are we looking at a four person mafia?o oVollkan's reaction is certainly consistent with pretty much either 3 or 4. But I woulda thought they'd have blocked Korts. Ugh.
Does c. sk vs. 3 mafia vs. tracker + doc + cop seem at all balanced to people?
is almost certainly the list of people he protected. Actually, I suppose it's possible the scum simply didn't get a kill in on day 2, so at least one of those might not be confirmed. Hrm. I suppose not confirmed, then.. I was just taking rofl literally, so to speak.roflcopter wrote:dgb, des and raging rabbit are all surely town, so i think we're in pretty great shape right now.-
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Mmmm, that was not sincere...vollkan wrote:Go town!!
But Yay! I wasn't wrong about every player!Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Maybe they didn't have time?Elmo wrote:Ding ding ding.
That is weird. I would have thought the mafia have a RB with cop+doc in the setup. Are we looking at a four person mafia?o oVollkan's reaction is certainly consistent with pretty much either 3 or 4. But I woulda thought they'd have blocked Korts. UghParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
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