Guns & Roses VI [Game Over]

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.5

Gamma Emerald [2] - Malakittens, Enchant
Enchant [3] - SirCakez, Alisae, Gamma Emerald
SirCakez [3] - Celebloki, Titus, Taly
The Bulge [2] - WhemeStar, Aristeia
Aristeia [1] - The Bulge

Not Voting [3]

- Theta Alpine, Dunnstral, pisskop

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-10-30 11:00:00)

[FakeGod]

pisskop replaces mfeathers.

[pisskop]

So I rolled town

[Enchant]

So I rolled town

Your previous you promised 100 posts on Day 1.


You better deliver.

[pisskop]

3 days thats ez

[Alisae]

So I rolled town

sure vote enchant

[WhemeStar]

I feel like Ali is conf town

But idk if I wanna vote enchant

[Enchant]

I feel like Ali is conf town

The fuck why?

[WhemeStar]

How they were acting around ur and my claims

[WhemeStar]

I don’t think it was rational to think we are both scum as town but maybe it is if Ali also has gun because they think scum is no roses

[Enchant]

Regardless of alignment you flip, alicae will coast on "i would't claim on my place if i was scum" until end game.

That's why all guns should just die. I already told how it can be achieved.

[Taly]

Hi kill enchant ok bai

replying to

titus

and

aristeia's

reasons not to will help make this happen

- Able to see Dunn with some town motive. +Town

what town motive do you see in Dunnstral?

it is superficial but i feel that his questions have been generally solid ones

tbh i looked back at my ISO group dive and read his posts and kind of reverted to suspicion again... especially in the world that

enchant

is town, and im probing that atm.

Can I get sheeped please

why

bulge

? oh great genius of mafia, share us your wisdom

I feel like Ali is conf town

But idk if I wanna vote enchant

you were saying he was town, what would have made you think of voting him?

Regardless of alignment you flip, alicae will coast on "i would't claim on my place if i was scum" until end game.

That's why all guns should just die. I already told how it can be achieved.

Enchant

, independent on the guns, how do you read

wheme

and

alisae

?

[Taly]

idk i want both

dunn

and

cakez

flipped, they have failed the vibe check

[Taly]

enchant/wheme/alisae

is probably resolving in some form independent of how D1 goes

but also... in the reality they're all town, this just seems really dumb to not gatekeep and prevent them from murdering the other.

i really dont think its too odd for a whole mafia team to be rose.

[Taly]

Rose is not a secure flavorclaim, but much like how the guns want each other dead, rose is a protown role that could be leveraged for credit.

Namely, if I think it's in anyway possible that

alisae/wheme/enchant

has at least 2 (maybe 3) town, I have some grievances with crosskills.

[Taly]

The Enchant wagon is stupid. Enchant's actions flow from his belief. It's also opportunistic.

You seem strong on this, were all the votes on the wagon bad? And independent of the votes, what is your read on

Enchant

?

[Taly]

I want to push everyone to spew reads on Enchant/Wheme/Alisae.

I'm not convinced that any specific shot is a town-controlled one unless there is more input from the playerlist.

[Taly]

partial revision of my 509 so my stance is clear

i want to move off rvs but no one has scumpinged me yet so someone do that please

this is fluff disguised as wanting to do more

i do think the guns/roses claim discussion over the past few pages has been generally town-motivated

i dont think we got much closer to finding scum aside from a select few

*cough*

alisae

VOTE: enchant
looks like a flailing wolf to me, this feels notably different from just normal Enchant scumminess

vague

more enchant votes only comment i have

fluff but less convicted than

aliase

I feel like Enchant and Wheme both being scum is almost like *too easy*? Like I feel like they would have solved this shit in scum chat or something by now. And they are both a little naturally scummy I think

very reachy

I haven't ruled out

Wheme/Enchant

TvS or even TvT thus far.

I feel like Enchant and Wheme both being scum is almost like *too easy*? Like I feel like they would have solved this shit in scum chat or something by now. And they are both a little naturally scummy I think

I recommend providing an alternative if you think people are misled here

I don't want an alternative I want Enchant lol

after stating that

Enchant/Wheme

may be incorrect, continues to want only 1 of the 2 options gone.

I think Enchant's just town here because he sounds incredibly annoyed in a really exasperated way that he really only gets when he's town getting run up.

The tone is giving me scum mad their plans blew up in their face not town anger

i want to know the plan too

[Taly]

*pushes alisae and wheme into a pile of pillows*

more votes on

my

wagon,

cakez

[pisskop]

Im struggling to understand why anyone would take a rose and instead wouldnt take a gun

power-wise there's so much more influence in flipping a role than potentially absorbing a kill or two

[Enchant]

Im struggling to understand why anyone would take a rose and instead wouldnt take a gun

power-wise there's so much more influence in flipping a role than potentially absorbing a kill or two

If there's no town roses alive, game ends in mafia victory.

Otherwise everyone pick gun lol.

[pisskop]

Picking rose as scum is hard to justify.

This is why youd pick a rose.
P: oh well deadmans switch or not its a small price to pay and you could always go jester if you were the final rose as maf

[Enchant]

Picking rose as scum is hard to justify.

This is why youd pick a rose.
P: oh well deadmans switch or not its a small price to pay and you could always go jester if you were the final rose as maf

I picked gun.

[Theta Alpine]

guns have an even amount of usage

roses are more powerful the more guns there are

[Aristeia]

I want to push everyone to spew reads on Enchant/Wheme/Alisae.

I'm not convinced that any specific shot is a town-controlled one unless there is more input from the playerlist.

I think all three could be town,

I don't think Wheme's play makes much sense as any kind of gun.

If he's a mafia gun, openly claiming is very ??? like what's he expecting to get out of that? draw out town gun CC ? like town gun can just shoot him at night.

if he's a town gun, him responding to enchant's claim by saying yea i townread enchant is very ?? - like if he thinks he's 1v1ing enchant why would he say that?

so like if wheme is some kind of rose who's trolling and trying to draw a nightkill it kind of makes sense if he's a town rose doing it? like why would a mafia rose put themselves out there?

2ndly

I think enchant is town because the way he responded to being pushed felt like he was very much exasperated to think that I could possibly think he would do this song and dance as a mafia gun, which kind of bleeds into his posting like he's asking me if I think he's trolling and when I say yes his eyes kind of roll into the back of his head in annoyance and he vows to not talk to me - that's a p town reaction to being called a troll lol

thirdly

I think alisae's enthusiasm for mass claim / resolving the gun issue just feels very town - there's little reason for ali to insert into the wheme/enchant situation and force the issue as a mafia gun, ali can just let enchant shoot wheme and let the cards fall where they might. there's nothing for ali to actually disrupt in place - it feels a lot like a townie jumping the gun.


I would find it much more likely there are no mafia in ali/enchant/wheme than something like two mafia? if there's one mafia in the grouping I struggle to see who fits with a scum mindset.

Also this game does feel kind of stalled being that there's 3 days to deadline and some people have decided to ghost it.

for example Bulge/Mala & Dunnstral.

Bulge hasn't posted in 2 days
Mala hasn't posted in 2 days.

Dunnstral posted once on wednesday and once on thursday and niether post really bothers to push anything in the game state - just a very one liner comment focussing on talking about someone's comment about himself.

The thing is in a game state where Enchant/Ali/Wheme are town and town is focussed on the wrong area - then it makes sense to me that mafia would find it difficult to post and actively participate because they know the town is on the wrong path and they're fine just sitting on their hands waiting for the town to just off itself.

I find this more concerning for Dunnstral than the other two in relative terms because I've seen Mala/Bulge both flake out of games as town so I know they often sign up for games and just do not play them but for Dunnstral I think he tends to be more focussed on mech related issues and also scumhunt less when he's mafia.