i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

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VOTE: tris

bwuhhhh?????????

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

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yea

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we all die

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no i think its because wwe all die

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well too bad!! VOTE: GeorgeBailey

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nono i think i am not explaining well

i am not suggesting that we massclaim nor that it is a good idea or anything,

i am simply asking what others think is the mechanical ‘punishment’ for it or whatever

like if there is a warning for it ending poorly there would be a reason for this, yes?

so i wonder what others think that reason is

Because it can help scum single out powerful PRs for nightkills. It usually only helps scum to mass claim d1.

the warning about not massclaiming wasn’t referring to day one specifically simply that town should not do so

and i believe it said it was a comment from the reviewer not the moderator for town to be warned of this

so it seemed like,

maybe some sort of mechanical thing

i dont think there's much to be gained from this speculation rn

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whyd you tell the mafia that's what your looking for?

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The Divergent series rips off The Hunger Games

VOTE: tris

i have nothing to do with that!!!

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hello do you agree with gamma that andree is town?

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there were things about it specific to this game considering there was specific warning given. but, i would agree it doesn't indicate town. mech talk is really easy to do regardless of allignment.

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good talk, VOTE: furtiveglance

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idk, could be the kind of read a mafia makes just to make reads. reads are gonna be weak early on tho

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had thought about voting her

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what is it about that post particular?

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tris for asking some awkward looking questions,

there;s always someone who scumreads me for asking questions. what if i told you i always do that?

Ythan specifically for 62,

thats funny. i gut wanted to townread her for that.

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btw, i voted for furtiveglance because they said they wanted real time interaction and then disappeared.

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wdym. like, a readslist?

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It's more of a question of playstyle or values, I guess.

i don't know what you mean by coloring a slot.

thats funny. i gut wanted to townread her for that.

I'm not feeling it. Do you have some kind of meta reason for your read?

no. it just felt like they had a specific reason to ask that question that might come from an inquisitive townie.

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How compelled do you feel to attribute town feeling and scum feeling to a slot. Do you do this for every slot? Just some?

i feel like i have to read some slots. i try to have someone i'm voting for at all times at least. i don't think i need to have a read on every slot with how large the game is. and sometimes my read is not some decision on whether they are town or scum, but how they might be town and how they might be scum, and as they post more i can decide which world i think is true. but, i havent played in a while, so i dont know how accurate that all is.

I feel like Ythan saw CSF’s play at that point as pressing others for reads rather than working on making her own so she opted to press CSF on it

yeah

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link?

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I don't see how 62 reads any one way or the other and I'm very picky about who I paint green. I'd say that Ythan isn't a very exciting slot for town right now. I'm really not seeing what other people are seeing.

it wasn't a very strong read. i wouldn't have mentioned if it weren't for frogster giving the opposite read on that post.

I will die on that hill.

woww!! really

idk about Frogster, backing out on tris so fast might be scum theatre but I can't say I scumread him otherwise.

Oh come off it, assuming tris is town, then as scum I had a fantastic opportunity to bloat the thread with useless, horrible drama by dragging out a fight with tris over whether or not asking questions is AI for them.

it wouldn't've worked

I feel like the capitalization helped me to draw the connection and the underlying pattern is shade posted in the format of a question with feigned conviction.

the post u linked looked like a joke. superficially, they're both questions but very different kinds.

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is no one interested in voting furtive wif me?

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what were you hoping for when u asked for real time interaction?

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frogster y r those votes scummy.

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hey, ythan. what do you think of the others voting frog

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much of frog doesnt make sense to me. his read of ythan is ???. his says gamma is scum a lot, but he hasn't said why. his princess vote in 145 is bad (in the bad reasoning sense). like, how is that an overaction? on that note actually, i'd like to hear frog's response to princess's arguments in there.

also, why did u vote princess?

of the votes on frog, menno's feels the weakest. in general, they seemed reasonable.

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oh, forgot to finish off with, i haven't decided if frog is scummy or just the kind of person who makes weird arguemnts i dont get

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This is the kind of overreaction I think can be scum indicative. I noticed that you went straight to attacking my reasoning rather than questioning whether or not it was scum motivated. Consider me sold on a quickhammer here if the game comes to that.

VOTE: Princess

ironically, this response is an overreaction. attacking reasoning is often the first step towards figuring out if something is scum motivated.

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hrmph

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tris what do you think of imaginality's entrance

pretty weak tbh

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One caveat about Princess is that Princess has posted just about that stuff lately and not about anything else.

yeah. this isbothering me

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yeah, i don't like its iso VOTE: erinys

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also, why did u vote princess?

never got a response to this from cat scratch

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Starting to notice a theme about getting voted after focusing on one topic/person at a time. Hm.

do u have an opinion on anything not about frog?

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Frog meta stuff aside, this one is wondering where tapiocaphobe and Vaxkiller are, and where Ranger went.

I like this

y?

mcmenno is the kind of person that would claim what he did as scum first thing in the game

they

just gonna park gamma because his AtE was shit and he should know better VOTE: Gamma

her, she

Interested in StD's votes on you and Imaginality. Would you (StD) care to elaborate on these?

i thought tris was scum, less sure about this now

why and what changed

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hmm, i kinda don't like ythan in the exchange with furtive even though on the surface, i agree with ythan more. it felt like she didn't actually care about helping furtive understand what she was saying.

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i like 347

VOTE: imaginality

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why did u follow this particular vote

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y'know what i think the imaginality wagon is downright suspicious.
VOTE: Ranger but also a reminder to future owl: remember cat scratch and lycanfire.

did a votecount: don't take it at face value, i've messed these up in the past.

5 players voting for imaginality (furtiveglance, Ranger, Lycanfire, tris, Elements, HighPrincessErinys)
4 players voting for Frogsterking (McMenno, Ythan, KittyTacky, imaginality)
3 players voting for Ranger (Titus, Gamma Emerald, Quiet Owl)
2 players voting for Elements (Save The Dragons, Cat Scratch Fever)
1 player voting for Not_Mafia (Not_Mafia)

6 players not voting (Vaxkiller, tapiocaphobe, kitten around, Enchant, Morning Tweet, Frogsterking)

with 23 votes, it takes 12 to eliminate.

why ranger specifically. what about the other people on the wagon like me.

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can I get your three strongest townreads and scumreads aorn?

gimme a moment to take stock

Town block A

Ranger
Dragons
KT
CSF
Tris

??? this is definitely not some cohesive block of players.

Redirecting attention onto furtive and Ythan reveals the intriguing possibility that the spoiler quotes are scum theater:

did you have my reaction to the exchange in mind when you posted this?
UNVOTE: imaginality

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VOTE: furtiveglance[/v]

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VOTE: furtiveglance

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@tris

can I get your three strongest townreads and scumreads aorn?

gimme a moment to take stock

actually doin it now. off the top of my head

scum: furtive, ythan, quiet owl
town: imagine, titus, gamma

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forgot to say, i don't get why the quiet owl town reads

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i hate large games

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frog why did you switch from frog being third party to scum

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frog why did you switch from ythan being third party to scum

fixed

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i dont know what to think about frog, i haven't thought about ranger properly. i can if u want

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i think frog and quiet owl are not scum together

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hi