hi, i'm large normal 242. and i'm over with.
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d6 final vote count!
Enchant (3):MathBlade, Cape90, Enchant
not voting (2):Lukewarm, MariaR
with 5 alive, it took 3 to blow someone up.-
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Enchant was made to explode! he was amafia night 3 voyeur!
night 6 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-11-19 19:15:05).-
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i'll do a fast night if all players tell me they want to-
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MathBlade has tragically been exploded in the night! he was atown voyeur.-
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vote count 7.0 !
not voting (3):Lukewarm, Cape90, MariaR
with 3 alive, it takes 2 to blow someone up. day 7 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-11-30 23:33:12)
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i like how i came in as soon as you said "omg nobody here"In post 3632, Lukewarm wrote:No body being here is making me uncomfortable.
I was really looking forward to either the instant cross or the cape "here, not hammering" post to tell me I am right, so if either one of you can log on I would greatly appreciate it-
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Day 3-- Pooky just flipped scum.
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6MariaR wrote:Obv mafia 1 dead
VOTE: Toogeloo
Next.
Okay, he top scum reads as partners for pooky are: STD, MalcolmTucker, and Toog.MariaR wrote:Ngl I started TRing Frog but just didn't say anything cause I wanted people to think I'd push them. Unlucky that they died but that makes me think someone's role would out them as a wolf.
Think I'm voting inSave/MT/Too
But then her next real post after this one is an empty vote on BCG
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6
Why did she vote here? It is outside of her top 3 scum reads. Well, this is what just happened before this voteMariaR wrote:VOTE: BCG
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It was in response to this wagon forming on the slot after it started getting replaced.
But as soon as the wagon started dissipating, she moved away again. This time to Malcolm Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6
MariaR wrote:VOTE: MalcolmTucker
This whole thing feels off. Like her votes are not moving based on her reads, they are moving based on where she needs to be positioned.
The thing that stands out to me, is that at the start of day, Toog was her biggest scum read based on her entrance, and when those votes piled up Toog was one of them. Like, yes, I know that NM and Math were there too, but she is not responding at all to the fact that her biggest scum read just naked voted onto this quick forming wagon.
This is compounded when you look at her leaving the BCG wagon. When she leaves, NM is still there calling the slot scum, and if she was there just to sheep conf town NM, then why does she leave to be The First Vote on a new wagon? Or was she sheeping Math, who was only there to sheep NM and Toog?
And even the person who actually made the argument not to vote BCG was Toog.
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6Toogeloo wrote:Also, everyone is Pooky and let me know if their interactions with BCG seem aligned. I'm think I'm getting cold feet on this one.
So, she followed her biggest scum read onto the wagon, and followed her biggest scum read back off.Toogeloo wrote:UNVOTE:
NM, let's look elsewhere.
It just… feels like her being on the wagon in the first place was not read motivated, but instead motivated on positioning wrt her scum buddy getting ran up while they could not defend themselves, and then hoping off once that issue resolved itself.-
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Side note:
The Toog read
As soon as Pooky flipped scum, Maria immediately had Toog as his scum partner
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6MariaR wrote:Obv mafia 1 dead
VOTE: Toogeloo
Next.
But the issue that I have here, is that is makes this feel like it was fake nuanceMariaR wrote:
You mean the 2 people who voted together all the time and didn't try day 1 are prob mafia? Gasp.In post 3100, Cape90 wrote:If toog is mafia, I am just suspecting people that don't try day 1 only to actually become helpful day 2. Happened with Pooky after all. Not interested in exploring that until later
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6
The fact that the moment Pooky flipped scum, Maria immediately went to Toog as a super obvious partner, makes it obvious that she never actually thought this in 2193.MariaR wrote:
Maybe, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be.In post 2193, MathBlade wrote:Do you think Toog and Frog are both bussing Pooky?I find it semi unlikely Too/Pooky are together given how similar their play is but meh.
Pooky is a follower claim, if they went over it wouldn't be the end of the world.
What part of my reads don't match my play?
"I find it semi unlikely Too/Pooky are together given how similar their play is"
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"You mean the 2 people who voted together all the time and didn't try day 1 are prob mafia?"
Are like, intrinsically opposite thoughts.
X being true isunlikely because of reason Y, but could be possible
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Day 6
Maria spent the entire day on the fence. Constantly saying that she needed more time to read before she could commit to a vote.
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6MariaR wrote:Also the only reason I'm not voting is because I'm still reading unlike...probably everyone here?
And I mean, the entire day. this one was her last post before Cape came in and voted.MariaR wrote:Ok ty I'm gonna go back to looking at isos
But then, the moment the votes landedSubject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6
Turns out in the 3 hours between these two posts, Maria read the exact things she needed to have read in order to be 100% sure she had the right answer, that she had been missing during all of her rereading in the 4 full days that they were crossed.MariaR wrote:Thank Charl for me not voting Math tbh lock cleared that slot on a reread
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No.
I think that she was just hoping that Cape would vote math. Looking like she was still solving, waiting for Cape to vote wrong. Even did some little bits of encouragement there too
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Yes, I know she also made posts calling Enchant scum, but that is basically my point.
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And yet, the whole time that she is fence sitting, she is calling me scummy for wanting to make sure that me and cape agree before either of us votes.
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Also,
Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6
This post bothered me when it happened, but again. It just does not make any sense as a thought town!her would have here.MariaR wrote:I don't believe you for a single but we'll reach that bridge when we cross it.
Don't know why Luke isn't freaking out when they've said they wanna vote Enchant and Cape wants to vote Math making me conf town
At the time of writing this, she is saying that she thinks it is me+enchant.
So, in that perspective of the game, why would she expect me to be freaking out if Cape is considering voting Math? That is literally a win for a Luke+Enchant team.
However, from if she is scum with enchant here, then cape voting math is a lose state for me. I think that she was genuinely surprised that I was not more bothered by cape considering voting math, because she knew that it was a loss for me, and this is just a perspective slip given her constantly presented certainty that I am scum.-
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I am realizing that maybe I should have also considered doing a town case on myself?
I did not do that over the night.
idk if self town cases mean all that much, but If you think it will help you at all Cape, I can try to do one?
If so, it might be a bit. I have a busy day tomorrow, so if I am going to do one, it probably wont happen until super late tomorrow, or monday at the latest.
Same goes for if you have any questions for me.
I have chemo monday morning, so I will just be sitting in a chair on my laptop for several hours then for sure anyways-
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one thingIn post 3625, MariaR wrote:Cape you just saw my wolf game you should know this isn't my wolf game sob
who are you besides maria? This is my first game with you as far as I am concerned-
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another thing,
a hole that bothers me in the case against Maria. Maria seems like they have absolutely no incentive to kill Toog based on what you pulled up unless I am mistaken. So am I mistaken? I assume Enchant has had to have been uncaring of who they kill at night?
To contradict myself I found this
In post 3303, Toogeloo wrote:There are quite a bit of intentions to be cleaned from using BCG, and I think the most important is that Cape is absolutely town, and that there is a high likelihood of Titus (who replaced Sir Rhett) and/or Maria might be aligned.
He has a really high town read on STD, and mentions it in thread.In post 3304, Toogeloo wrote:He has one singular interaction with Nero (now Enchant).In post 3305, Toogeloo wrote:Enchant, what's your role again?
possibly could explain that discrepency, I am curious to see what maria does. And no, I do not know what scumgame they were speaking of that one EODIn post 3307, Toogeloo wrote:I might be wrong on Enchant also. I think Titus is the right choice today though.-
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another another thing,
Luke, so did you like... check me at all the night you evaluated Maria?
I am sure if you are mafia, you found it way easier to push Maria then myself, though Enchant did practically spew me anyways last day with me being their top townread for... reasons they "couldn't remember" or whatever.-
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sure yeahIn post 3644, Lukewarm wrote:I am realizing that maybe I should have also considered doing a town case on myself?
I did not do that over the night.
idk if self town cases mean all that much, but If you think it will help you at all Cape, I can try to do one?
If so, it might be a bit. I have a busy day tomorrow, so if I am going to do one, it probably wont happen until super late tomorrow, or monday at the latest.
Same goes for if you have any questions for me.
I have chemo monday morning, so I will just be sitting in a chair on my laptop for several hours then for sure anyways
I would like towncases on both you and
If MariaR could do the same
thanks-
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